Re: Under Attack

[Guest guest]

I once got into an argument with a young lady, boy did she attack. It was also

in a place that had nothing to do with health, perse. After enduring much in the

way of personal attack, and being made out to be a liar for saying that this

special diet and enzymes were healing and already cured of us of some of our

problems, well, blah blah, all these people told me there is no such thing as

" curing " or " healing " autism and related disorders through diet.

And guess what. Most of the people in the conversation were people who have

learned nothing about nutrition and do not think for themselves when it comes to

the advice of their doctor, believing only one thing to be true.

The main gal who attacked me is in vaccine research and development, and had

" studied " the issues of vaccine induced illness and it is all hogwash. As a

musician, I was attacked, for not being smart enough to ever be a doctor (watch

who you are talking to, she was saying this to someone who sustained a 4.0 in

college, and has been working on nutritional studies for years).

I guess the point I am trying to make to you Carol, you just can't win, you

can't defend something against ignorance. You really have no idea who you were

talking to, just like me. When I found out this lady was in " vaccine research

and development " I was like " ah ha " . She is benefited by publicly nailing people

like myself against the wall, to prove her point.

My point, SCD saved us when there was nothing, no pill, no therapy that would

ever do it. Call me a liar...I don't care, my children speak, can use the potty,

do not have stomach pains, etc.

These people just cannot see through their limited life experience to

understand anything else. It's okay though. Let these people drain each other

and not you!

I am sorry this happened, and boy can I sympathize with you. Sometimes the

toughest journey is not the medicene, its acceptance from others.

Summer

carolfrilegh c.frilegh@...> wrote:

Today I sustained the most virulent attack by someone who says it's the

gluten, not the

starch that is important to remove when dealing with celiac diease. This person

discredited

Dr. Haas, Elaine Gottschall and the diet and challenged the fact that it is not

accepted

widely in the medical community and is strictly about food. The person refused

to read

BTVC.

It made me realize what many of us are up again with hostile friends and

relatives.

i wondered if the person had a hidden agenda or a vested interest in products or

medications for some other diet.

Fortunately i recived support and validation from another poster that made me

feel

vindicated but it also made me face the peculiar glass wall we are up against.

The irony was the group where the discussion took place is not a health group.

The

exchange involved five lomg posts.

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

My adversary was far from ignorant. Her main objection was my saying all celiacs

should

avoid corn, rice and soy as well as refined sugar. She has a friend who follows

a GF diet

and has done well and I acknowledged that there are such people. In her most

recent post

she did find areas of agreement but felt she was not being unreasonable to point

out the

attitude of the medical community and she also said she felt the diet could help

certain

people but not all and I'll grant her that. She was extremely intelligent and

apparently well

educated in gastric illness but kept demanding scientific proof which she felt I

was unable

to supply.

It wore me out and even depressed me because for five years I have seen so much

good as

the results of those following SCD, the adults and ASD children. Elaine had

this

rejection happen so often for nearly forty years and warned me about it, but

until now, I

never let it get to me.

A woman just called as I was composing this message to enroll in the Toronto SCD

cooking classes. She has Crohns and started SCD a month ago and has been pain

free the

whole time and it's the first time in years. It was very uplifting and redeeming

to have this

happen when the rest of the day had been so disturbing because of the OP. It is

those calls

and testimonials that make this so worthwhile.

Thank you Gertrude (Summer) for all your educated contributions to this list

We better move on so we can get better:-)

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

[Guest guest]

Keep speaking out... the truth will prevail.

Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: I once got into an

argument with a young lady, boy did she attack. It was also in a place that had

nothing to do with health, perse. After enduring much in the way of personal

attack, and being made out to be a liar for saying that this special diet and

enzymes were healing and already cured of us of some of our problems, well, blah

blah, all these people told me there is no such thing as " curing " or " healing "

autism and related disorders through diet.

And guess what. Most of the people in the conversation were people who have

learned nothing about nutrition and do not think for themselves when it comes to

the advice of their doctor, believing only one thing to be true.

The main gal who attacked me is in vaccine research and development, and had

" studied " the issues of vaccine induced illness and it is all hogwash. As a

musician, I was attacked, for not being smart enough to ever be a doctor (watch

who you are talking to, she was saying this to someone who sustained a 4.0 in

college, and has been working on nutritional studies for years).

I guess the point I am trying to make to you Carol, you just can't win, you

can't defend something against ignorance. You really have no idea who you were

talking to, just like me. When I found out this lady was in " vaccine research

and development " I was like " ah ha " . She is benefited by publicly nailing people

like myself against the wall, to prove her point.

My point, SCD saved us when there was nothing, no pill, no therapy that would

ever do it. Call me a liar...I don't care, my children speak, can use the potty,

do not have stomach pains, etc.

These people just cannot see through their limited life experience to

understand anything else. It's okay though. Let these people drain each other

and not you!

I am sorry this happened, and boy can I sympathize with you. Sometimes the

toughest journey is not the medicene, its acceptance from others.

Summer

carolfrilegh c.frilegh@...> wrote:

Today I sustained the most virulent attack by someone who says it's the

gluten, not the

starch that is important to remove when dealing with celiac diease. This person

discredited

Dr. Haas, Elaine Gottschall and the diet and challenged the fact that it is not

accepted

widely in the medical community and is strictly about food. The person refused

to read

BTVC.

It made me realize what many of us are up again with hostile friends and

relatives.

i wondered if the person had a hidden agenda or a vested interest in products or

medications for some other diet.

Fortunately i recived support and validation from another poster that made me

feel

vindicated but it also made me face the peculiar glass wall we are up against.

The irony was the group where the discussion took place is not a health group.

The

exchange involved five lomg posts.

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com