Re: PH: MSH question

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Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the CSM protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more levels of the population testing at the lower range.

Also, did you do the HLA testing?

Thanks,

Beth L.

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Hi Beth,

No, I unfortunately haven't figured out the MSH issue. The only doc that had

heard of it (besides on the forum) is Dr. Kolb. Every doc here in St.

Louis had no idea what it was. I therefore didn't go the CSM route. I know

Jeanne is using the CSM though...she knows a lot more about it than I.

No, I didn't do the HLA testing. The only genetic testing I've had done is the

APOE 3/4 gene which causes a person to have trouble excreting metals. I feel at

this point that after two years and so many $$$$ of testing I am no closer to

finding out what is wrong.

I think it all boils down to toxicity, immune and hormonal imbalances. Given

that the gut is the center of the immune system, I've been focusing on cleaning

that out as well as the liver, since the liver is the center of the

endocrine/hormonal system (according to my MD/ND).

Regarding the MSH test having new ranges, I had a local friend who also has

implant illness. She recently scored a 5 and that was considered normal, where

when I was tested anything under 35 was considered neurotoxic. I don't get any

of this!

PH

>

> Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the CSM

protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every

morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is

interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've

been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more

levels of the population testing at the lower range.

>

> Also, did you do the HLA testing?

> Thanks,

> Beth L.

>

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Hi Beth,

I forgot to answer your question regarding sunlight and MSH. Yes, sunlight

increases MSH levels. I don't know what my current MSH is but I do think it is

increasing slowly.

MSH is also associated with melanin which causes pigmentation of the skin. When

I was first ill I was no longer turning a bronzy color but just staying pale no

matter how much time I spent in the sun, so I think it takes quite a bit of

time. Also, MSH disruption can cause melasma which I developed too. Two years

later though I can tell that my skin is responding more to like it did

pre-illness as I'm starting to tan like I used to.

According to my Mercola doc, we should all be getting at mimimum 20 minutes of

sunlight a day on 80% of our bodies...increases Vit D3 levels which reduces

inflammation...hard to do all year round when you live in the north or midwest!

~PH

> >

> > Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the

CSM protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every

morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is

interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've

been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more

levels of the population testing at the lower range.

> >

> > Also, did you do the HLA testing?

> > Thanks,

> > Beth L.

> >

>

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> >

> > Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the

CSM protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every

morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is

interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've

been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more

levels of the population testing at the lower range.

> >

> > Also, did you do the HLA testing?

> > Thanks,

> > Beth L.

> >

>

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Good to know, I'll try a little more sun. I'm in west Texas, and it's hot.

~Beth

>

> Hi Beth,

> I forgot to answer your question regarding sunlight and MSH. Yes, sunlight

increases MSH levels. I don't know what my current MSH is but I do think it is

increasing slowly.

>

> MSH is also associated with melanin which causes pigmentation of the skin.

When I was first ill I was no longer turning a bronzy color but just staying

pale no matter how much time I spent in the sun, so I think it takes quite a bit

of time. Also, MSH disruption can cause melasma which I developed too. Two

years later though I can tell that my skin is responding more to like it did

pre-illness as I'm starting to tan like I used to.

>

> According to my Mercola doc, we should all be getting at mimimum 20 minutes of

sunlight a day on 80% of our bodies...increases Vit D3 levels which reduces

inflammation...hard to do all year round when you live in the north or midwest!

>

> ~PH

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jeanne;

what is msh and csm?

thanks.

gg

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> >> > Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the CSM protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more levels of the population testing at the lower range.> > > > Also, did you do the HLA testing?> > Thanks,> > Beth L.> >>

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PH: MSH question

Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the CSM protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more levels of the population testing at the lower range.Also, did you do the HLA testing?Thanks,Beth L.

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msh is a pituitary hormone lowered by biotoxins/neurotoxins and when you remove

the toxins with cholestyramine (csm), cholesterol lowering drug per shoemaker

protocol, it supposedly raises your msh level back up to normal

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i have biotoxins and have some of the same symptoms you have with the tremors

etc ....i had them about 4 yrs ago, they did go away, but i am reinfected and

they are back....it is a very weak feeling i get in my arms and legs and then

the shakiness...

i have to go back on antifungals and antibiotics after my liver enz normalize,

this usually helps my healing

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hi jeanne;

am very curous about your shakiness or tremor, sounds like what i have. do you think the mold or candida caused this, and what helped you most to get rid of it 4 yrs. ago? what are you reinfected with?

did you do the Msh testing at the time and/or take the csm?

thanks.

gg

Re: PH: MSH question

i have biotoxins and have some of the same symptoms you have with the tremors etc ....i had them about 4 yrs ago, they did go away, but i am reinfected and they are back....it is a very weak feeling i get in my arms and legs and then the shakiness...i have to go back on antifungals and antibiotics after my liver enz normalize, this usually helps my healing

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I have never been " reinfected " with fungal/bacterial infection this bad before,

but when I first experienced all of this beginning 5 yrs ago, (3 1/2 found it

was implant related), I had such extreme muscle weakness in arms and legs. And

I was an athlete my whole life!

Anyhoos, Dr Kolb said this is part of biotoxin illness and I have been

experiencing some of this again in the last month or so, that extreme muscle

weakness and tremors. Did read about it in Dr Shoemaker's Mold Warrior.

What got rid of it the first time was all the detoxing and antifungals and

antibiotics for me. I ask Dr Kolb for help every time I get reinfected which is

about every 3 - 6 months I need to go back on antibiotics/antifungals. We have

not found my right " thing " yet as to keep everything under control.

I had my implants for 25 yrs and she said that the dr putting them in probably

ruptured them doing so. Then mammo at age 40 5 yrs ago did me in. Not much

different than having silicone injections in the end.

I also have mold issues as I am the genotype to have mold susceptability

illness. So it is not uncommon for " me " to have low MSH and recurring probs.

Highly recommend Mold Warriors by Dr Shoemaker. And you can always email dr

kolb at plastikos.com.

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hi jeanne;

am still wondering about a few things.

is dr. shoemaker in practice, if so where? is that the name of his book, 'mold warrior'?

what is your diet like? do fruits and semblences of sweet ( honey, or anything else that tastes sweet) make you worse (i'm referring to other than sugar itself or sugar based products.

i thot antibiotics had mold in - usually they give like nistatin, or something in place of.

do you do any detox like sauna, liver flush, colon cleanse or anything like? do you have digestive problems?

i suspect sometimes i have candida or mold type in the brain. wish there was a test - they really need better diagnostic techniques. i'm assuming msh testing doesnt specifically show this? i dont test out for candida in blood or stool. lot of it is so confusing to me.

thanks.

gg

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I have never been "reinfected" with fungal/bacterial infection this bad before, but when I first experienced all of this beginning 5 yrs ago, (3 1/2 found it was implant related), I had such extreme muscle weakness in arms and legs. And I was an athlete my whole life! Anyhoos, Dr Kolb said this is part of biotoxin illness and I have been experiencing some of this again in the last month or so, that extreme muscle weakness and tremors. Did read about it in Dr Shoemaker's Mold Warrior.What got rid of it the first time was all the detoxing and antifungals and antibiotics for me. I ask Dr Kolb for help every time I get reinfected which is about every 3 - 6 months I need to go back on antibiotics/antifungals. We have not found my right "thing" yet as to keep everything under control.I had my implants for 25 yrs and she said that the dr putting them in probably ruptured them doing so. Then mammo at age 40 5 yrs ago did me in. Not much different than having silicone injections in the end.I also have mold issues as I am the genotype to have mold susceptability illness. So it is not uncommon for "me" to have low MSH and recurring probs. Highly recommend Mold Warriors by Dr Shoemaker. And you can always email dr kolb at plastikos.com.

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I do eat as much organic as possible, no white flour, no sugar (except gatorade,

that was my " life line " it gave me the energy i needed to function

seriously!...just recently found corvalen...eat real food, it makes it simple to

follow...patty directs us all very well

Dr Shoemaker is in practice and evidently very expensive for testing, maybe Beth

can help more there. I asked Dr Kolb to do some of his testing for me which

will then go thru my insurance. Still going thru it , so dont know the exp

yet.............

I am 3 yrs post explant and just recently (like last week) really got a grasp on

the mold / fungal issues. They can be very severe for some of us, and not until

recently, it was not really talked about that much on here.......so much more

than anti-candida diet, etc.

Please read the book Mold Warriors, even Dr Kolb made me read it so I could

understand her and my genotype!

And Patty and all the ladies here are such a huge help with the detoxing etc.

It IS OVERWHELMING FOR ME ALSO!

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- Mind if I comment?     =D

Hi Beth,

No, I unfortunately haven't figured out the MSH issue. The only doc that had heard of it (besides on the forum) is Dr. Kolb. Every doc here in St. Louis had no idea what it was. - The reason is because it is not thoroughly discussed during medical training. It was only after joining the group that I found a reason to research on the topic... it was then that I was able to connect what I have been studying before my medical training, back when I was a biologist (my pre-med)... it is also for my background I guess that it was easier for me to understand the principles. It was just like putting all the jigsaw pieces, that I've had, together and forming a picture.I therefore didn't go the CSM route. I know Jeanne is using the CSM though...she knows a lot more about it than I.

No, I didn't do the HLA testing. The only genetic testing I've had done is the APOE 3/4 gene which causes a person to have trouble excreting metals. I feel at this point that after two years and so many $$$$ of testing I am no closer to finding out what is wrong.  - I think, my personal opinion, we already know what is wrong, all of you have a hard time excreting toxic materials, which could have been accumulating ever since, it could be genetic or environmental, but the bottomline is, your body can't detox as well as the rest of us. This is evident, it was taught during my Psychiatry training that we are all different, they made drugs as an example... there are people who can go on crack and just get a high, while there are those who get insane after the first crack dose. Our professors said that some

of us may have a predisposition to some illness, different from the rest, as we are all unique individuals. There's nothing we can do about our body's blueprint, it as, obviously, already built, maybe in the future when they can remove all of these genetic predisposition from all our genes, this will all be a thing of the past.It's just that that is how your body is. I guess acceptance of how our body works is the primary key, and then just doing what we can do.I think it all boils down to toxicity, immune and hormonal imbalances.- BINGO! Trying to get a confirmation of what you have with expensive tests, like proving that you do have a hard time excreting heavy metals is I think not a priority, because we already know, symptomatically that you really do.It does boil down to toxicity, immune response, and hormones.TOXICITY - removal of anything that is toxic in our body, which is explantation, etc, removal or silver amalgams, etc... and stopping new toxins from entering. With fruits, if they are not cultivated organically, then the skins of apples, etc contain fertilizers and organophosphate pesticides and should be

removed. If your water is heavy, then shift to distilled, the pure state of water.IMMUNE RESPONSE - regenerate your immune system through detoxification, removing the thing that weakens it. Strengthening it will make it work better, it will distinguish better which should be attacked and spared. Imagine our immune system being drunk with toxins, if your drunk you have a hard time distinguishing things, right.HORMONES - The body has the ability to fix itself if the materials are present, and if it is strong enough to fix itself. Detox will strengthen the body, and proper nourishment will give it its materials for fixing.  Given that

the gut is the center of the immune system, I've been focusing on cleaning that out as well as the liver, since the liver is the center of the endocrine/hormonal system (according to my MD/ND).- The pituitary gland is the master gland, the regulator of all hormones, but the liver is the one that makes and breaks down the hormones.

Regarding the MSH test having new ranges, I had a local friend who also has implant illness. She recently scored a 5 and that was considered normal, where when I was tested anything under 35 was considered neurotoxic. I don't get any of this!- Looking for a way to increase the MSH is a good endeavor, BUT, personally, I think you are just treating the symptom where we should be removing the cause, which brings us back to the first premise of the importance of detox and proper nutrition. Looking for a way to relieve a symptom is important, but should not be regarded as more important than removing the cause. =)

PH

PS: Sisters, I hope that you're not offended with my comments, because I feel like I am invading someone's conversation. I hope that you will keep in mind that I am here not for myself but in order to help, I have good intentions. 

>

> Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the CSM protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more levels of the population testing at the lower range.

>

> Also, did you do the HLA testing?

> Thanks,

> Beth L.

>

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dr tan;

i think your input is well received and appreciated -thanks much.

i'd like to hear what you think after reading hulda clark's book, and if it would change anything you do in your practice, esp. re. detox - (using a zapper, for instance.)

thanks.

gg

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- Mind if I comment? =D

Hi Beth,No, I unfortunately haven't figured out the MSH issue. The only doc that had heard of it (besides on the forum) is Dr. Kolb. Every doc here in St. Louis had no idea what it was.

- The reason is because it is not thoroughly discussed during medical training. It was only after joining the group that I found a reason to research on the topic... it was then that I was able to connect what I have been studying before my medical training, back when I was a biologist (my pre-med)... it is also for my background I guess that it was easier for me to understand the principles. It was just like putting all the jigsaw pieces, that I've had, together and forming a picture.

I therefore didn't go the CSM route. I know Jeanne is using the CSM though...she knows a lot more about it than I.No, I didn't do the HLA testing. The only genetic testing I've had done is the APOE 3/4 gene which causes a person to have trouble excreting metals. I feel at this point that after two years and so many $$$$ of testing I am no closer to finding out what is wrong.

- I think, my personal opinion, we already know what is wrong, all of you have a hard time excreting toxic materials, which could have been accumulating ever since, it could be genetic or environmental, but the bottomline is, your body can't detox as well as the rest of us. This is evident, it was taught during my Psychiatry training that we are all different, they made drugs as an example... there are people who can go on crack and just get a high, while there are those who get insane after the first crack dose. Our professors said that some of us may have a predisposition to some illness, different from the rest, as we are all unique individuals.

There's nothing we can do about our body's blueprint, it as, obviously, already built, maybe in the future when they can remove all of these genetic predisposition from all our genes, this will all be a thing of the past.

It's just that that is how your body is. I guess acceptance of how our body works is the primary key, and then just doing what we can do.

I think it all boils down to toxicity, immune and hormonal imbalances.

- BINGO! Trying to get a confirmation of what you have with expensive tests, like proving that you do have a hard time excreting heavy metals is I think not a priority, because we already know, symptomatically that you really do.

It does boil down to toxicity, immune response, and hormones.

TOXICITY - removal of anything that is toxic in our body, which is explantation, etc, removal or silver amalgams, etc... and stopping new toxins from entering. With fruits, if they are not cultivated organically, then the skins of apples, etc contain fertilizers and organophosphate pesticides and should be removed. If your water is heavy, then shift to distilled, the pure state of water.

IMMUNE RESPONSE - regenerate your immune system through detoxification, removing the thing that weakens it. Strengthening it will make it work better, it will distinguish better which should be attacked and spared. Imagine our immune system being drunk with toxins, if your drunk you have a hard time distinguishing things, right.

HORMONES - The body has the ability to fix itself if the materials are present, and if it is strong enough to fix itself. Detox will strengthen the body, and proper nourishment will give it its materials for fixing.

Given that the gut is the center of the immune system, I've been focusing on cleaning that out as well as the liver, since the liver is the center of the endocrine/hormonal system (according to my MD/ND).

- The pituitary gland is the master gland, the regulator of all hormones, but the liver is the one that makes and breaks down the hormones.Regarding the MSH test having new ranges, I had a local friend who also has implant illness. She recently scored a 5 and that was considered normal, where when I was tested anything under 35 was considered neurotoxic. I don't get any of this!

- Looking for a way to increase the MSH is a good endeavor, BUT, personally, I think you are just treating the symptom where we should be removing the cause, which brings us back to the first premise of the importance of detox and proper nutrition. Looking for a way to relieve a symptom is important, but should not be regarded as more important than removing the cause. =)PHPS: Sisters, I hope that you're not offended with my comments, because I feel like I am invading someone's conversation. I hope that you will keep in mind that I am here not for myself but in order to help, I have good intentions.

>> Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the CSM protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more levels of the population testing at the lower range.> > Also, did you do the HLA testing?> Thanks,> Beth L.>

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do you ever take caprylic acid or yeast cleanse - 2 products for candida- do you eat fruits in general, or stick to more non sweet foods? do you have a lot of food allergies?

guess im trying to figure out if you have similar to what i have, as you have similar symptoms. i have tons of food allergies, but think anything sweet may be affecting also.

Re: PH: MSH question

I do eat as much organic as possible, no white flour, no sugar (except gatorade, that was my "life line" it gave me the energy i needed to function seriously!...just recently found corvalen...eat real food, it makes it simple to follow...patty directs us all very wellDr Shoemaker is in practice and evidently very expensive for testing, maybe Beth can help more there. I asked Dr Kolb to do some of his testing for me which will then go thru my insurance. Still going thru it , so dont know the exp yet.............I am 3 yrs post explant and just recently (like last week) really got a grasp on the mold / fungal issues. They can be very severe for some of us, and not until recently, it was not really talked about that much on here.......so much more than anti-candida diet, etc. Please read the book Mold Warriors, even Dr Kolb made me read it so I could understand her and my genotype!And Patty and all the ladies here are such a huge help with the detoxing etc. It IS OVERWHELMING FOR ME ALSO!

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MSH (from previous post) okay, for all the readers of this list who still don't understand the significance of this test, first of all, MELANOCYTE-STIMULATING HORMONE is the following (take note of the three functions):1. it is a hypothalamic neuroregulatory hormone2. cytokine and mucus membrane regulatory hormone 3. regulatory hormone of almost all other hormonesIt is one of the hormones produced by the pituitary gland. So, then if MSH is a normal part of our body, why are we testing MSH if we are in actuality wanting to get the level of biotoxin in our body? It's like this, neurotoxins and biotoxins are a bit hard to quantify, there are new tests that can show us the level in our body, but some of these are still under experimentation, so, we make use of MSH test.How? Biotoxin Induced Diseases severely affect the pituitary gland and the hypothalamus, and since MSH is a pituitary gland hormone, insulting the pituitary gland with biotoxin will deplete the MSH in the body.MSH deficiency then is an indicator of biotoxin level.So, what are the effects of MSH levels? Well, I hope you took note of the functions of MSH a while ago, hence, under production would lead to the opposite of its functions which are:1. it is a hypothalamic neuroregulatory hormone which regulates melatonin level (remember that melatonin is a sleep pattern regulator)... and decreasing melatonin production causes a severe sleep disorder. Once detoxification is started, MSH will again rise and so will melatonin production and the patient now has a good night's sleep. 2. MSH is a cytokine regulatory hormone, since cytokines are involved with the immune system and since mucus production is one of the defense mechanisms of the immune systems, there is mucus overproduction. Because of this, we can see the affected patients with symptoms of frequent cough and other mucous over-production.3. Since the pituitary gland is the "master gland", MSH is a per sea  regulatory hormone of almost all other hormones. And having a low MSH will wreak havok all throughout the body.CSM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholestyramine)Cholestyramine or colestyramine (Questran, Questran Light, Cholybar) is a bile acid sequestrant, which binds bile in thegastrointestinal tract to prevent its reabsorption. The resin is a strong anion exchange resin, which means that it can exchange its chloride anions with anionic bile acids in the gastrointestinal tract

and bind them strongly in the resin matrix. The functional group of the anion exchange resin is a quaternary ammonium group attached to an inert styrene-divinylbenzene copolymer.Cholestyramine removes bile acids from the body by forming insoluble complexes with bile acids in the intestine, which are then excreted in feces. When bile acids are excreted, plasma cholesterol is converted to bile acid to normalize bile acid levels. This conversion of cholesterol into bile acids lowers plasma cholesterol concentrations. Bile acid sequestrants such as cholestyramine are primarily used to treat hypercholesterolemia, but can also be used to treat the pruritus, or itching, that often occurs during liver failure due to the

liver's inability to eliminate bile.Cholestyramine is also used to prevent diarrhea in Crohn's disease patients who have undergone post-ileal resection. The terminal portion of the small bowel (ileum) is where bile acids are reabsorbed. When this section is removed, the bile acids pass into the large bowel and attract water due to their osmotic effect, causing diarrhea. Cholestyramine prevents this increase in water by making the bile acids insoluble and osmotically inactive.From: gayle <glass3311@...>Subject: Re: Re: PH: MSH question Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 2:57

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jeanne;

what is msh and csm?

thanks.

gg

Re: PH: MSH question

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Have you figured out the MSH problem? I have been tested twice, done the CSM protocol for awhile, and mine is still 8. I wake up around 3am almost every morning. Did you say sunlight can help get it up? The mucous info is interesting. I have allergies anyway, so I always have drainage problems. I've been told the labs have lowered the normal range of the MSH test, due to more levels of the population testing at the lower range.> > > > Also, did you do the HLA testing?> > Thanks,> > Beth L.> >>

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Wow, excellent interpretation of the MSH

and its functions ! Thank you so much !

You explained it so we could easily understand

it !

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