Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 The latest scientific research reveals that both both SCD and GFCF are right about their position regarding dairy. I will try to explain this contradiction. There is no contradiction, it is the bacteria in the GI system that are causing the milk intolearnce. When we remove the bacteria with SCD,the milk intolerance might disappears. A very important research paper about autism and diet was written by Jyonouchi and was published by Neuropsychobiology. The Jyonouchi research article says that : " Children with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) frequently reveal various gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms that may resolve with an elimination diet along with apparent improvement of some of the behavioral symptoms " The eliminated foods were: " gliadin, cow's milk protein (CMP),soy... " So it is obvious that Jyonouchi says that the GFCF diet is right about its ban on cow dairy. However, the Jyonouchi article also vindicates SCD. It says that this intolerance to cow dairy is caused by endotoxin, a product of the gut bacteria. Our list recommends that ASD children wait for some time before starting GOAT yogurt.This gives them time to get rid of the endotoxin. (A big percentage of our children cannot tolerate cow yogurt. We even need to have a starter made with goat milk for our goat yogurt.) More information about this research article is under my post. If anyone asks,I will post more research articles that show that food intolerances disappear after the bacteria in the GI system are eliminated Mimi Jyonouchi's Paper Neuropsychobiology. 2002;46(2):76-84. Elaine Gottschall's Comments on Jyonouchi's Paper The abstract of Jyonouchi's paper says Children with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) frequently reveal various gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms that may resolve with an elimination diet along with apparent improvement of some of the behavorial symptoms. Evidence suggests that ASD may be accompanied by aberrant (inflammatory) innate immune responses. THIS MAY PREDISPOSE ASD CHILDREN TO SENSITIVIES TO COMMON DIETARY PROTEINS LEADING TO GI INFLAMMATION AND AGGRAVATION OF SOME BEHAVIORAL SYMPTOMS. The authors demonstrate conclusively that there is an abnormal immune response to cow's milk protein and wheat protein (gliadin) and soy in ASD. What is interesting is that the diet model is NOT THE SAME AS THE OPIOID MODEL BUT IS BASED ON A VARIABLE IMMUNE RESPONSE IN WHICH NOT EVERY CHILD WILL SHOW SENSITIVITY TO EVERY FOOD. But the punch line is: The authors suggest that the root cause of the food protein sensitivity may be an underlying sensitivity to endotoxin or lipopolysaccharides (LPS) which comes from the surfaces of gram negative bacteria in the gut. This summarized means that this response to the bacterial endotoxin (LPS) PREDISPOSE THESE CHILDREN TO SENSITIZATION TO DIETARY PROTEINS. This is consistent with a model of abnormal gut flora development that promotes immune response to gut bacteria. This means that ASD kids may develop a kind of autoimmunie response to their own gut flora. Neuropsychobiology. 2002;46(2):76-84 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1\ 2378124&dopt=Abstract Innate immunity associated with inflammatory responses and cytokine production against common dietary proteins in patients with autism spectrum disorder. Jyonouchi H, Sun S, Itokazu N. Department of Pediatrics, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, Minn, USA. OBJECTIVES: Children with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) frequently reveal various gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms that may resolve with an elimination diet along with apparent improvement of some of the behavioral symptoms. Evidence suggests that ASD may be accompanied by aberrant (inflammatory) innate immune responses. This may predispose ASD children to sensitization to common dietary proteins (DP), leading to GI inflammation and aggravation of some behavioral symptoms. METHODS: We measured IFN-gamma, IL-5, and TNF-alpha production against representative DPs [gliadin, cow's milk protein (CMP), and soy] by peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) from ASD and control children [those with DP intolerance (DPI), ASD siblings, and healthy unrelated children]. We evaluated the results in association with proinflammatory and counter-regulatory cytokine production with endotoxin (LPS), a microbial product of intestinal flora and a surrogate stimulant for innate immune responses. RESULTS: ASD PBMCs produced elevated IFN-gamma and TNF-alpha, but not IL-5 with common DPs at high frequency as observed in DPI PBMCs. ASD PBMCs revealed increased proinflammatory cytokine responses with LPS at high frequency with positive correlation between proinflammatory cytokine production with LPS and IFN-gamma and TNF-alpha production against DPs. Such correlation was less evident in DPI PBMCs. CONCLUSION: Immune reactivity to DPs may be associated with apparent DPI and GI inflammation in ASD children that may be partly associated with aberrant innate immune response against endotoxin, a product of the gut bacteria. Copyright 2002 S. Karger AG, Basel PMID: 12378124 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Jyonouchi's Paper Neuropsychobiology. 2002;46(2):76-84. Elaine Gottschall's Comments on Jyonouchi's Paper The abstract of Jyonouchi's paper says Children with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) frequently reveal various gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms that may resolve with an elimination diet along with apparent improvement of some of the behavorial symptoms. Evidence suggests that ASD may be accompanied by aberrant (inflammatory) innate immune responses. THIS MAY PREDISPOSE ASD CHILDREN TO SENSITIVIES TO COMMON DIETARY PROTEINS LEADING TO GI INFLAMMATION AND AGGRAVATION OF SOME BEHAVIORAL SYMPTOMS. The authors demonstrate conclusively that there is an abnormal immune response to cow's milk protein and wheat protein (gliadin) and soy in ASD. What is interesting is that the diet model is NOT THE SAME AS THE OPIOID MODEL BUT IS BASED ON A VARIABLE IMMUNE RESPONSE IN WHICH NOT EVERY CHILD WILL SHOW SENSITIVITY TO EVERY FOOD. But the punch line is: The authors suggest that the root cause of the food protein sensitivity may be an underlying sensitivity to endotoxin or lipopolysaccharides (LPS) which comes from the surfaces of gram negative bacteria in the gut. This summarized means that this response to the bacterial endotoxin (LPS) PREDISPOSE THESE CHILDREN TO SENSITIZATION TO DIETARY PROTEINS. This is consistent with a model of abnormal gut flora development that promotes immune response to gut bacteria. This means that ASD kids may develop a kind of autoimmunie response to their own gut flora. Neuropsychobiology. 2002;46(2):76-84 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1\ 2378124&dopt=Abstract Innate immunity associated with inflammatory responses and cytokine production against common dietary proteins in patients with autism spectrum disorder. Jyonouchi H, Sun S, Itokazu N. Department of Pediatrics, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, Minn, USA. OBJECTIVES: Children with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) frequently reveal various gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms that may resolve with an elimination diet along with apparent improvement of some of the behavioral symptoms. Evidence suggests that ASD may be accompanied by aberrant (inflammatory) innate immune responses. This may predispose ASD children to sensitization to common dietary proteins (DP), leading to GI inflammation and aggravation of some behavioral symptoms. METHODS: We measured IFN-gamma, IL-5, and TNF-alpha production against representative DPs [gliadin, cow's milk protein (CMP), and soy] by peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) from ASD and control children [those with DP intolerance (DPI), ASD siblings, and healthy unrelated children]. We evaluated the results in association with proinflammatory and counter-regulatory cytokine production with endotoxin (LPS), a microbial product of intestinal flora and a surrogate stimulant for innate immune responses. RESULTS: ASD PBMCs produced elevated IFN-gamma and TNF-alpha, but not IL-5 with common DPs at high frequency as observed in DPI PBMCs. ASD PBMCs revealed increased proinflammatory cytokine responses with LPS at high frequency with positive correlation between proinflammatory cytokine production with LPS and IFN-gamma and TNF-alpha production against DPs. Such correlation was less evident in DPI PBMCs. CONCLUSION: Immune reactivity to DPs may be associated with apparent DPI and GI inflammation in ASD children that may be partly associated with aberrant innate immune response against endotoxin, a product of the gut bacteria. Copyright 2002 S. Karger AG, Basel PMID: 12378124 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 I want to add that there is a subgroup of ASD children who do not tolerate the goat yogurt. We are not sure if it is milk intolerance or a die off reaction. The good news is that the negative symptoms go away after the dairy is discontinued. So I really urge everyone to try the SCD goat yogurt after a time on SCD. Please excuse the fact that some parts in my last post were copied twice. I am always in a hurry. Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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