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In a message dated 5/17/2000 3:55:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rhandr@... writes:

<<

boy can I relate and add to it, but I won't because I have no brain left

today. Am doing this from work, and the attorneys are out, but as usual I am

overworked.

Robynn >>

Robynn , I was so caught up in my own party, I missed the part where you are

sick, IM sorry, listen dot call me go to bed and let baby you!!!! you

need to be healthy for your surgery. Gosh IM so excited I started crying.

What a woos.. Well i wish you were there. take care and god bless you

friends always

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I was just wondering if anyone can relate to how I am feeling right now? I

had my MGB done on 12/20/99. I am 5'11 and started at 280. I am now down to

191 and in a few more pounds according to the BMI calculator I will no longer

be overweight. I am down to a size 14-16 and can really tell the difference.

Why then do I still consider myself 280 pounds? Why do I still feel like

people are looking at me because I weigh to much? This surgery can take the

weight off but I think the emotional issues are really something to think

about. The same thing happened to me a few years back when I had my breast

reduction. I was so use to be a DD that after I had my surgery and went down

to a B cup I still thought of myself as having these hugh boobs. The one

thing I was looking forward to doing after having them reduced was going

braless but when I tried to I thought Oh my god everyone is going to be

thinking look at that lady with the hugh boobs going braless. Am I to

concerned with what other people think of me? I guess that is the real

question. Will I ever in my life consider myself a normal size? I went into

Walmart today and bought myself this cute little shirt with part of the back

missing kinda like a halter top. I was so excited I brought it home and tried

it on and it fit and it actually looks good then I thought to myself are you

crazy thinking you are actually going to wear that out in public. All it

shows is the top part of your back. Then I think to myself o my god people

are going to be thinking look at that fat lady with the halter top on. I am

very happy with my results and would do this again in a heartbeat but will I

ever see myself as normal? See what years of hiding behind all this fat can

do to a person. It can really mess with your head. Liz

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I was just wondering if anyone can relate to how I am feeling right now? I

had my MGB done on 12/20/99. I am 5'11 and started at 280. I am now down to

191 and in a few more pounds according to the BMI calculator I will no longer

be overweight. I am down to a size 14-16 and can really tell the difference.

Why then do I still consider myself 280 pounds? Why do I still feel like

people are looking at me because I weigh to much? This surgery can take the

weight off but I think the emotional issues are really something to think

about. The same thing happened to me a few years back when I had my breast

reduction. I was so use to be a DD that after I had my surgery and went down

to a B cup I still thought of myself as having these hugh boobs. The one

thing I was looking forward to doing after having them reduced was going

braless but when I tried to I thought Oh my god everyone is going to be

thinking look at that lady with the hugh boobs going braless. Am I to

concerned with what other people think of me? I guess that is the real

question. Will I ever in my life consider myself a normal size? I went into

Walmart today and bought myself this cute little shirt with part of the back

missing kinda like a halter top. I was so excited I brought it home and tried

it on and it fit and it actually looks good then I thought to myself are you

crazy thinking you are actually going to wear that out in public. All it

shows is the top part of your back. Then I think to myself o my god people

are going to be thinking look at that fat lady with the halter top on. I am

very happy with my results and would do this again in a heartbeat but will I

ever see myself as normal? See what years of hiding behind all this fat can

do to a person. It can really mess with your head. Liz

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Missy,

boy can I relate and add to it, but I won't because I have no brain left today.

Am doing this from work, and the attorneys are out, but as usual I am

overworked.

Robynn

>

> Hey, guys, me again.... this day is killing me (I'm

> really sick and miserable and want to go home and go

> to bed - but still stuck at work) and BCBS should let

> me know something today. So, I'm here at work for two

> reasons: waiting for my answer and because I only

> have a few sick days and I need to save them for the

> surgery! So, while I'm sitting here, useless to my

> clients because I'm brain-dead today, I decided I

> would take part in the fun I've seen on the list in

> the past: things I will never do again after I lose

> this weight! O.K. - here goes: (1) Put small servings

> on my plate at family gatherings so as not to look

> like a piglet and wait until everyone has finished and

> left, then go back and get what I really wanted to eat

> in the first place. (2) Steal " Coconut Rounds " from my

> Dad's stash and unwrap them inside a coat so the paper

> won't rattle and no one will hear me! (3) Look for

> the biggest, loosest dress in the Plus-Size section of

> Sears so that I'll be able to move about freely and

> not sweat to death (4) Hunt endlessly for an elevator

> to avoid the stairs (5) Tell everyone how miserable

> and ashamed I am for being so big (6) Avoid old

> friends and/or enemies from high school & college

> because I don't want them to see me now (7) Avoid

> cameras completely - even family photographs (8) Spend

> every minute of my entire day thinking about what I

> can eat next or what I'll have to eat at my next meal

> (9) Dread visits from my sister-in-law who loves to go

> shopping with my Mom, who always invites me, unknowing

> that I'm too big to go and don't enjoy looking at

> clothes anymore (10) Check the chair or couch I'm

> sitting in (or on) to see how much of my butt is

> hanging off. (11) Look around the room at an office

> function to see if anyone is watching me fill my plate

> (12) Dread showering and dressing because I only have

> three or four Moo-Moos that fit and I'm tired of

> wearing them (13) Spend the better part of my day

> pulling and tugging at this bra from hell - checking

> to see my side and " back " fat is not too disgusting

> hanging out of the bra .............there are more,

> I'm sure... they will come to me when I am trying to

> sleep tonight. Thank you for letting me ramble.....I

> think I'll request one of those cocktails in the

> holding area. From what most of you have told me, I

> just need to show up at the hospital in plenty of time

> and they will do my EKG and bloodwork there, right? I

> think I need two cocktails............. Love, Missy

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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>

> Hey, guys, me again.... this day is killing me (I'm

> really sick and miserable and want to go home and go

> to bed - but still stuck at work) and BCBS should let

> me know something today. So, I'm here at work for two

> reasons: waiting for my answer and because I only

> have a few sick days and I need to save them for the

> surgery! So, while I'm sitting here, useless to my

> clients because I'm brain-dead today, I decided I

> would take part in the fun I've seen on the list in

> the past: things I will never do again after I lose

> this weight! O.K. - here goes: (1) Put small servings

> on my plate at family gatherings so as not to look

> like a piglet and wait until everyone has finished and

> left, then go back and get what I really wanted to eat

> in the first place. (2) Steal " Coconut Rounds " from my

> Dad's stash and unwrap them inside a coat so the paper

> won't rattle and no one will hear me! (3) Look for

> the biggest, loosest dress in the Plus-Size section of

> Sears so that I'll be able to move about freely and

> not sweat to death (4) Hunt endlessly for an elevator

> to avoid the stairs (5) Tell everyone how miserable

> and ashamed I am for being so big (6) Avoid old

> friends and/or enemies from high school & college

> because I don't want them to see me now (7) Avoid

> cameras completely - even family photographs (8) Spend

> every minute of my entire day thinking about what I

> can eat next or what I'll have to eat at my next meal

> (9) Dread visits from my sister-in-law who loves to go

> shopping with my Mom, who always invites me, unknowing

> that I'm too big to go and don't enjoy looking at

> clothes anymore (10) Check the chair or couch I'm

> sitting in (or on) to see how much of my butt is

> hanging off. (11) Look around the room at an office

> function to see if anyone is watching me fill my plate

> (12) Dread showering and dressing because I only have

> three or four Moo-Moos that fit and I'm tired of

> wearing them (13) Spend the better part of my day

> pulling and tugging at this bra from hell - checking

> to see my side and " back " fat is not too disgusting

> hanging out of the bra .............there are more,

> I'm sure... they will come to me when I am trying to

> sleep tonight. Thank you for letting me ramble.....I

> think I'll request one of those cocktails in the

> holding area. From what most of you have told me, I

> just need to show up at the hospital in plenty of time

> and they will do my EKG and bloodwork there, right? I

> think I need two cocktails............. Love, Missy

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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> Sweet Liz,

I know how you feel, once a long time ago I lost all the weight that I ever

wanted to. Looked real good, could not live with myself at that weight. Have

you thought about doing some short term therpy. I know that I would be lost if

once in a while I didn't get reality check, to see if I am sane. Usually I goin

with a goal in mind and a set time to solve or obtain it. The issues that you

are experiencing will not dissapear with your weight, or at least mine did not.

if you need to talk call or e-mail me if I can be of any help.

Robynn

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In a message dated 5/18/2000 1:56:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

croby@... writes:

<<

I have lost down to goal weight a couple of times in my life. And you're

right----your own self-image has nothing to do with the truth. How else

would an anorexic person who looks like a skeleton be able to look in the

mirror and say, " I'm so fat? " Other than true physical limitations, I do

not think or act as fat as I am. I suppose when I get down to below my

" body image weight " I will have difficulty adjusting to that too. I think >>

Hey fg, I agree, I recently took out a photo of when I first starting dating

my husband

I was 5 '3.5 to be safe 115 pounds I thought I was fat. Now I look at the

picture and think huh what was I thinking, It might be that I was a 36 in

bust which was more than all my skinny friends. Lol Gosh what I would give to

have that body again. You know it has a lot to do with your surroundings i

remember my Mom always saying if you lose 10 pounds you will be perfect, then

your a little to thin, geeeze now wonder i stopped caring, Hey IM not

blaming my Mommy, I just wish she had not been a good cook,lol

Trisha Lanman

Littermate June 1, 2000

yippee

Las Vegas NV

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Hey Liz~~

I have lost down to goal weight a couple of times in my life. And you're

right----your own self-image has nothing to do with the truth. How else

would an anorexic person who looks like a skeleton be able to look in the

mirror and say, " I'm so fat. " ? Other than true physical limitations, I do

not think or act as fat as I am. I suppose when I get down to below my

" body image weight " I will have difficulty adjusting to that too. I think

it just takes time for your mind and body to reconnect. You've only been

post op less than half a year, you've made alot of changes in that time,

please give yourself a chance to adjust. If you have to, take an honest

friend that you trust with you when you go clothes shopping.....ask them if

it really looks good, or if you need to leave it on the hanger (notice I

said an honest friend you could trust. LOL). Because right now, you may not

be able to discern the difference. It will come back to you in time. I do

believe that Ginny was commenting that the support group was going to cover

this very issue on Saturday. It would be great if someone could post notes

from these meetings on the website for those of us who cannot attend.

You have lost an incredible amount of weight in only 5 months. In fact, I

am saying WOW, my mind is freaking out just thinking about it. :-) I think

that people are looking at you and saying to themselves, " WOW, she looks

terrific!! " :-)

fg

At 04:17 PM 05/17/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>I was just wondering if anyone can relate to how I am feeling right now? I

>had my MGB done on 12/20/99. I am 5'11 and started at 280. I am now down to

>191 and in a few more pounds according to the BMI calculator I will no longer

>be overweight. I am down to a size 14-16 and can really tell the difference.

>Why then do I still consider myself 280 pounds? Why do I still feel like

>people are looking at me because I weigh to much? This surgery can take the

>weight off but I think the emotional issues are really something to think

>about. The same thing happened to me a few years back when I had my breast

>reduction. I was so use to be a DD that after I had my surgery and went down

>to a B cup I still thought of myself as having these hugh boobs. The one

>thing I was looking forward to doing after having them reduced was going

>braless but when I tried to I thought Oh my god everyone is going to be

>thinking look at that lady with the hugh boobs going braless. Am I to

>concerned with what other people think of me? I guess that is the real

>question. Will I ever in my life consider myself a normal size? I went into

>Walmart today and bought myself this cute little shirt with part of the back

>missing kinda like a halter top. I was so excited I brought it home and tried

>it on and it fit and it actually looks good then I thought to myself are you

>crazy thinking you are actually going to wear that out in public. All it

>shows is the top part of your back. Then I think to myself o my god people

>are going to be thinking look at that fat lady with the halter top on. I am

>very happy with my results and would do this again in a heartbeat but will I

>ever see myself as normal? See what years of hiding behind all this fat can

>do to a person. It can really mess with your head. Liz

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Thanks FG. Liz

[Guest guest]

I saw a message on here yesterday that the location of the clinic has changed

to the hospital. Is this true? Liz

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At least your mom was a good cook, my mom made me clean everything off my

plate.....BY FORCE! LOL If I did not finish my dinner, mom figured I was

constipated and she gave me a dose of castor oil. n/k Of course she regrets

that now (prolly what her mom did to her) but that's like locking up the

barn after the horse has been stolen. Once you make those abnormal

associations with food, it is very hard to change them......without help.

Luckily, this surgery makes us either disinterested in high calorie foods,

or makes us unable to eat very much of anything at one time. But if you

look around, even thin model-like types are not always pleased with their

bodies. I have decided that I am going to do the best that I can for my

body, and it certainly won't be perfect, but it will be better than this.

:-)) Congratulations on your surgery date, you'll come through it just

fine. :-)

fg

>Hey fg, I agree, I recently took out a photo of when I first starting dating

>my husband

>I was 5 '3.5 to be safe 115 pounds I thought I was fat. Now I look at the

>picture and think huh what was I thinking, It might be that I was a 36 in

>bust which was more than all my skinny friends. Lol Gosh what I would give to

>have that body again. You know it has a lot to do with your surroundings i

>remember my Mom always saying if you lose 10 pounds you will be perfect, then

>your a little to thin, geeeze now wonder i stopped caring, Hey IM not

>blaming my Mommy, I just wish she had not been a good cook,lol

>

>Trisha Lanman

>Littermate June 1, 2000

>yippee

>Las Vegas NV

>

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