Re: anyone remember me

[Guest guest]

yes, I remember you! So sorry to hear you are still struggling, but please

don't feel alone. I have been explanted since 2004 and I'm stil working on some

neurological issues. If you read through the posts, you'll see that many of us

still struggle with inflammatory issues. Maybe there are some simple detoxing

things you can start back on, like drinking enough water, trying to eat more

whole foods. I am reading about coffee enemas right now helping detox the body,

they sound gross but they are pretty simple to do. Butyrate may help you move

out some of those toxins. Sweating is good, either from exercise or a sauna.

If you are still struggling with anxiety/depression, inositol powder may help

with that, there was a study done in Israel using about 12 grams a day, I

believe that is equal to 2 teaspoons, dissolved in juice, one tsp in morning and

one at night. The study found it to be effective as SSRI in treatment, without

the side effects that cause so many to stop. Inositol also helps move out

silicone from the body. I have taken it before and actually just ordered some,

my nerves are about shot dealing with this stuff.

hang in there,

hugs,

Beth L

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> hey I used to post here a lot. just wanted to update you on where I am. this

group helped me to get my implants out quickly, but regaining health has been

grueling at best. i can't even remember how long i have been explanted, i think

about 2 1/2 years now. some of the health problems left quickly, the vertigo,

the numbness, the spacing out, the passing out, lots of rashes, others too. i

ended up totally giving up on dealing with the fact that i was poisoned, and

went from dr to dr to get the usual cfs and fibro diagnosis. i went so far as

to see a specialist who almost killed me. i just got out of the hospital for

opiate dependence withdrawal and severe depression/suicide thoughts. he was an

alternative dr, cant say more, just that he gave me a cocktail of meds for my

" fibro " that crashed my system. now i have severe hypothyrodism, after being

tested over and over and told i am fine. i have complained of pain in my

thyroid, mainly swollen, only to get an u/s that said it looks fine. app not

fine now, and am on synthroid. the family dr is treating it, he just said he

has never seen anything like my results, i guess two levels are gone and one is

normal. i am writing to you all because i think i have forgotten that i am

really sick from the implants. problem is, i have all the fibro symptoms, pain

all the time, fatigue, still lymph nodes hurt, can't work. sorry to ramble, i

am actually going to hypnosis, chiro and massage, and using high antioxidants.

but am still running from dr to dr. i got off everything except ambien, now

they are putting me back on elavil. any thoughts on pursuing treating

fibromyalgia or just trying detox things? my thoughts have always been with

this group, i have not even been on the computer in years. love to all

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[Guest guest]

Hey Nannette,

Of course I remember you!

I've often wondered what you've been doing for healing and how things

have been going. I'm sorry to hear you have just been released from the

hospital for the opiate dependence withdrawal combined with the

depression. That's not good Nan.

On the one hand I'm very happy that so many of your symptoms disappeared

with explant, but it sounds like the healing journey has been far from

uneventful. The medical merry go round you have been on is the one

that I have always tried to keep off of myself, and hoped to help others

keep off of as well.

That going from Dr. to Dr. is for the birds! And it's expensive! Not

to mention that it gives you a medical file 2 inches thick and the

insurance companies have a field day with that.

First of all, regarding the thyroid, I am wondering if you are getting

ALL the testing you need done for it. It doesn't help for them to test

it over and over again if all they are testing is TSH, or T3 or T4.

They need to be testing for thyroid antibodies....have they done that?

There are two thyroid antibody tests...the Anti-TPO antibody (or

anti-thyroperoxidase.....TPOAb) and also the anti-thyroglobulin antibody

test, or TgAB. These two tests together will give a picture of whether

or not you have autoimmunity going on with your thyroid. You can have

autoimmunity and still have normal TSH, so you remain undiagnosed if

they are not including the antibody testing.

How about your Free T3 and Free T4? Where do they stand? You want to

be at the highest level...lower end is not helpful when you feel

lethargic.

The really good news is that we have success stories of women dealing

with their fibro and beating it! It can be done! It takes a herculean

effort to do the right combination of things though....but the fact

remains that fibromyalgia does not need to be a life sentence and you do

not have to remain in pain or in this medical maze that leaves you

utterly exhausted and confused and no better off. Doctors have rarely

been successful in treating our kind of illness and that is why I stay

away from them!

Nan, I will look for and find those posts, (as well as place them in a

folder for future reference because we've covered this before) about

healing from fibromyalgia. The key is hormones, detoxing, and paying

attention to food allergies. These are things you can do at home and

take care of yourself if you have the will to do them. Finding a good

doctor to work with you can be helpful if you can find one.

I'm so glad you wrote. Just take things easy for now, and do some

reading about how we've been getting better here.

Massage therapy is vital for those with fibromyalgia....it is not a

luxury, but a necessity! You need to get those tissues infused with

vital nutrients and fluids and keep them from hardening up and getting

stiff. A weekly massage can do wonders. I wish insurance would pay for

THAT! It's better therapy than many of the toxic drugs.

I hope and pray you can start to feel better with the right approach.

I'm curious about this alternative doc you saw? What was the cocktail

of meds?

Patty

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> hey I used to post here a lot. just wanted to update you on where I

am. this group helped me to get my implants out quickly, but regaining

health has been grueling at best. i can't even remember how long i have

been explanted, i think about 2 1/2 years now. some of the health

problems left quickly, the vertigo, the numbness, the spacing out, the

passing out, lots of rashes, others too. i ended up totally giving up

on dealing with the fact that i was poisoned, and went from dr to dr to

get the usual cfs and fibro diagnosis. i went so far as to see a

specialist who almost killed me. i just got out of the hospital for

opiate dependence withdrawal and severe depression/suicide thoughts. he

was an alternative dr, cant say more, just that he gave me a cocktail of

meds for my " fibro " that crashed my system. now i have severe

hypothyrodism, after being tested over and over and told i am fine. i

have complained of pain in my thyroid, mainly swollen, only to get an

u/s that said it looks fine. app not fine now, and am on synthroid.

the family dr is treating it, he just said he has never seen anything

like my results, i guess two levels are gone and one is normal. i am

writing to you all because i think i have forgotten that i am really

sick from the implants. problem is, i have all the fibro symptoms, pain

all the time, fatigue, still lymph nodes hurt, can't work. sorry to

ramble, i am actually going to hypnosis, chiro and massage, and using

high antioxidants. but am still running from dr to dr. i got off

everything except ambien, now they are putting me back on elavil. any

thoughts on pursuing treating fibromyalgia or just trying detox things?

my thoughts have always been with this group, i have not even been on

the computer in years. love to all

>

[Guest guest]

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> > hey I used to post here a lot. just wanted to update you on where I

> am. this group helped me to get my implants out quickly, but regaining

> health has been grueling at best. i can't even remember how long i have

> been explanted, i think about 2 1/2 years now. some of the health

> problems left quickly, the vertigo, the numbness, the spacing out, the

> passing out, lots of rashes, others too. i ended up totally giving up

> on dealing with the fact that i was poisoned, and went from dr to dr to

> get the usual cfs and fibro diagnosis. i went so far as to see a

> specialist who almost killed me. i just got out of the hospital for

> opiate dependence withdrawal and severe depression/suicide thoughts. he

> was an alternative dr, cant say more, just that he gave me a cocktail of

> meds for my " fibro " that crashed my system. now i have severe

> hypothyrodism, after being tested over and over and told i am fine. i

> have complained of pain in my thyroid, mainly swollen, only to get an

> u/s that said it looks fine. app not fine now, and am on synthroid.

> the family dr is treating it, he just said he has never seen anything

> like my results, i guess two levels are gone and one is normal. i am

> writing to you all because i think i have forgotten that i am really

> sick from the implants. problem is, i have all the fibro symptoms, pain

> all the time, fatigue, still lymph nodes hurt, can't work. sorry to

> ramble, i am actually going to hypnosis, chiro and massage, and using

> high antioxidants. but am still running from dr to dr. i got off

> everything except ambien, now they are putting me back on elavil. any

> thoughts on pursuing treating fibromyalgia or just trying detox things?

> my thoughts have always been with this group, i have not even been on

> the computer in years. love to all

> >

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