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Dear Gang,

Nobody asked my opinion on this matter (that's never stopped me before, so

why now?) but I do have 2 cents I'd like to throw into the discussion.

Dr. R QUIT reading now........I still (now that I'm feeling better) want

some sweets and I must confess I have returned to A & W Rootbeer as the

ultimate treat, but even if I wanted to (and remember I've had an " undo "

revision) I can't eat more than a bite or two, never more than 1/3 of a

small piece of cake for instance until my stomach lets me know I've had

enough. I don't dump or get nauseous (the only really sweet thing besides

Ensure that does me in is Chocolate Malts), I just get full fast enough that

I don't totally disrail all my progress.

It's not the same as depriving yourself of something you want....you

physically cannot eat too much without paying the price. It's hard to

explain, but it's not like dieting at all.....there's no guilt about that

morsel you just put in your mouth (and enjoyed). You can still eat a

variety of foods (pretty much whatever you want within reason) as long as

you don't overdo on quantity. Even the no-no's take a while to learn and

everybody's palates are different, so what appeals to one or bothers one may

not bother someone else.

I'm talking of course about the time period after the initial few weeks

following surgery. Our ( and my) experience has been that you just

have to experiment and find out what works for you.

The best advice I can give everyone is that even if you do have cravings you

will find that a bite or two will alleveiate those and you really don't feel

deprived when you say " No thanks, I've had plenty! "

To me that's the beauty of this surgery. You CAN have your cake and eat it

too.....except now that cake may go stale before you get it all eaten. It

took me 4 days to eat a Banana Muffin a few weeks after my surgery and even

now (Thank you, Dr. R for leaving my smaller stomach) I can't eat more than

1/3 of one, and only that much if it is my meal and not my snack.

On the other hand I can also eat only about 1/3 of a chicken breast filet,

hamburger (medium-as in rare, medium rare) or cob of corn. But I can eat

3-4 oz. of Waldorf salad at a time. I will also probably finish my

hamburger at my next 2 " grazing " stops before bedtime....or save them for

breakfast and lunch tomorrow.

Some people, especially with the by-pass may have trouble with dumping, some

never do.

Forget the diet mentality....the necessity for that (in my opinion) will be

gone forever, but you must still use common sense and remember the size of

your new stomach. The best visualization suggestion I received was made by

Dr. R....the cigar anaology (non-presidential) helped me focus on what I was

eating, when I thought about how it was going to " fit " in my new stomach.

It also, makes the " nibble & graze " approach both necessary and pleasant.

I always wanted an excuse to eat all day long....now I can without guilt.

Hope this helps. Remember, my advice is worth exactly what you are paying

for it, so use what works for you and chunk the rest.

Pam in NC

Pre-Op Wt 318 @ 5 ft. 5

MGB Surg.= 1/4/99

Lowest Wt.= 143 10/99

Reversal of MGB= 10/24

Current Wt= 165-175, Holding healthy and happy

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Thank you Pam! You have said exactly what I have been thinking all along.

That even if I can eat sugar, either I won't want much, or I certainly won't

be able to eat the quantities of food that I ate before surgery. Thank you

for confirming this.

fg

---insurance appeal in prog.

At 10:38 PM 05/14/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>Dear Gang,

>

>Nobody asked my opinion on this matter (that's never stopped me before, so

>why now?) but I do have 2 cents I'd like to throw into the discussion.

>

>Dr. R QUIT reading now........I still (now that I'm feeling better) want

>some sweets and I must confess I have returned to A & W Rootbeer as the

>ultimate treat, but even if I wanted to (and remember I've had an " undo "

>revision) I can't eat more than a bite or two, never more than 1/3 of a

>small piece of cake for instance until my stomach lets me know I've had

>enough. I don't dump or get nauseous (the only really sweet thing besides

>Ensure that does me in is Chocolate Malts), I just get full fast enough that

>I don't totally disrail all my progress.

>

>It's not the same as depriving yourself of something you want....you

>physically cannot eat too much without paying the price. It's hard to

>explain, but it's not like dieting at all.....there's no guilt about that

>morsel you just put in your mouth (and enjoyed). You can still eat a

>variety of foods (pretty much whatever you want within reason) as long as

>you don't overdo on quantity. Even the no-no's take a while to learn and

>everybody's palates are different, so what appeals to one or bothers one may

>not bother someone else.

>

>I'm talking of course about the time period after the initial few weeks

>following surgery. Our ( and my) experience has been that you just

>have to experiment and find out what works for you.

>

>The best advice I can give everyone is that even if you do have cravings you

>will find that a bite or two will alleveiate those and you really don't feel

>deprived when you say " No thanks, I've had plenty! "

>

>To me that's the beauty of this surgery. You CAN have your cake and eat it

>too.....except now that cake may go stale before you get it all eaten. It

>took me 4 days to eat a Banana Muffin a few weeks after my surgery and even

>now (Thank you, Dr. R for leaving my smaller stomach) I can't eat more than

>1/3 of one, and only that much if it is my meal and not my snack.

>

>On the other hand I can also eat only about 1/3 of a chicken breast filet,

>hamburger (medium-as in rare, medium rare) or cob of corn. But I can eat

>3-4 oz. of Waldorf salad at a time. I will also probably finish my

>hamburger at my next 2 " grazing " stops before bedtime....or save them for

>breakfast and lunch tomorrow.

>

>Some people, especially with the by-pass may have trouble with dumping, some

>never do.

>

>Forget the diet mentality....the necessity for that (in my opinion) will be

>gone forever, but you must still use common sense and remember the size of

>your new stomach. The best visualization suggestion I received was made by

>Dr. R....the cigar anaology (non-presidential) helped me focus on what I was

>eating, when I thought about how it was going to " fit " in my new stomach.

>It also, makes the " nibble & graze " approach both necessary and pleasant.

>I always wanted an excuse to eat all day long....now I can without guilt.

>

>Hope this helps. Remember, my advice is worth exactly what you are paying

>for it, so use what works for you and chunk the rest.

>

>Pam in NC

>Pre-Op Wt 318 @ 5 ft. 5

>MGB Surg.= 1/4/99

>Lowest Wt.= 143 10/99

>Reversal of MGB= 10/24

>Current Wt= 165-175, Holding healthy and happy

>

>

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