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These are comments in posts in our archives from women who have felt the victory of overcoming their Fibromyalgia:Post # 116191: I have FM also . . . However, as long as I follow

my "program" . . .sufficient deep sleep, moderate exercise, regular massage, healthy diet, plus stress and anger management, I wouldn't know I had it.

> >

> >It takes a while to work out your own "program" . . . but it's well worth the effort.

> >

> >You can get past it! . . .(Rogene)Post #72757Speaking from personal experience, I believe you can beat fibromyalgia . . . But,

saying that, I also believe that, once you've experienced FM, that you

will have to be ever viligent when it comes to doing the things

necessary to keep the symptoms away. . . . The good news is that these

are the same things that will allow you to enjoy generally good health. RogeneTricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: I found this while surfing the net tonight. I was impressed. These centers might be worth looking into. Patty http://www.fibroandfatigue.com/aboutus.php The

Fibromyalgia & Fatigue Centers (FFC) are dedicated to treating

patients suffering from conditions known as fibromyalgia and chronic

fatigue syndrome. It is through a holistic, integrated and comprehensive approach to the treatment of underlying physiological factors

that differentiates our approach and ultimate patient success. It is

our goal to develop individualized and sustaining regimens that lead to

a significant change for positive patient outcomes. Founded

and based on the outcomes of Dr. Kent Holtorf, a chronic fatigue

patient and practitioner

specializing in fibromyalgia (FM) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)

patients, the FFC brings these medically proven protocols to patients

nationwide. Affordable care from compassionate health care providers is

now available through FFC. Founder

and Chairman of the Board, Bob Baurys, established the FFC after he

found relief from his five year struggle with FM symptoms with Dr.

Holtorf's treatments. Using a six step approach in order to get FM and

CFS under control, the physician's of the FFC work with the patient to

create the treatment protocol that will help achieve optimal health

unique to that patient. Discover what our patients have to say about us in our Testimonials section. Centers are currently open in Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Ft. Worth, Las Vegas,

Norwalk, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Salt Lake City, and Seattle. More locations will be announced shortly for opening. Out

of town packages are available for all FFC locations to accommodate the

special needs of patients not living near one of our current locations.

To learn more about the FFC nearest you call toll free 1-866-443-4276.Post #124591 Hi Ilena, please post (I'm not selling anything) You

and the group have helped me so much over these many years. I would

like to take this opportunity to perhaps give back. By sheer accident I

have found a simple and effective solution for my muscle pain and it's

not more pain meds! I know this is a lengthy post but this will make

the difference in the quality of life for many in our groups. I

wish I did, but in truth I do not have any financial interest of any

kind with the product. I wasn't able to get a distributorship as it's

already available in Europe, U.S.A. and the company is in talks with

some big distributors in Canada. A

four month supply is $90.00 and I think it's going to be the new

aspirin -in that it does so much more than was originally intended. I

don't sell it but you can get it at some pharmacies and online. I'd

have paid a million dollars for this stuff but my settlement wouldn't

.... - but it's worth it ten times over. I have waited a few months to

make very sure this has absolutely worked before I would suggest it to

the group. First;I have copied and pasted three

separate studies about silicone causing women to develop autoantibodies

against their own collagen and connective tissue. Studies

reported by the FDA have shown that some women with silicone gel-filled

breast implants

produced antibodies to their own collagen (a connective tissue

protein),[22] but we do not know how often these antibodies occur in

the general population, and there are no data as yet that show these

antibodies cause CTDs and related disorders. Teuber,

S.S., Rowley, M.J., Yoshida, S.H., Ansari, A.A., Gershwin, M.E.

Anti-collagen autoantibodies are found in women with silicone breast

implants. Journal of Autoimmunity 6:367-377, 1993. Researchers

at Monash University in Clayton, , in Australia, found that

women with silicone implants (70 were studied) have elevated levels of

autoantibodies to collagen, in a manner highly similar to women with

lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. (Current Topics in Microbiological

Immunology 210 [1996], 307-316.) Here is what

happened; I have had pain climbing the stairs for many years. It

started when I was first sick from my implants - 14 years ago. A

few

months ago I hurt my hip joint as I was going down the stairs. After

that I could barely put any weight on that leg and then the other hip

joint started to hurt because I was overusing it. A pharmacist friend

of mine in Germany who already had one hip replacement himself told me

about a new study over there. He was booked to have surgery on his

other hip when he thought he would try this newly studied product. If

anyone else but this particular person had told me about some new

'cure' I wouldn't have listened. But I have seen him hardly able to

walk and followed his progress from the first surgery and then he had

to spend time at a live-in physiotherapy rehab and it was a tough go.

So he didn't want to experience it again. He has since canceled the

second hip surgery and is out of pain and able to walk easily. He

told me it would take about 3 months of a daily dose of this .85 oz.

(25 ml.) vial of liquid to

notice a difference but I figured it was worth trying. In about 6

weeks I realized was able to put weight on my leg again. By three

months both hips are in good shape and I have no trouble going up and

down stairs at all. I have not changed anything else in my daily life

except this little vial of apricot flavored liquid I drink everyday.

It is diabetic friendly and does not interact with drugs. BUT

the biggest surprise was my extreme and severe fibromyalgia (three

rheumatolgists all gave me the same diagnosis) I have had consistently

for 14 years....has relieved! When I read about the silicone

causing antibodies to my own collagen and connective tissue -as Oprah

would say "a light bulb moment." The product is called CH Alpha

and made by a company called Gelita. It's a German company. The product

is more expensive in Germany than it is in the U.S. I

notice it is also available in powder form to be

mixed with liquid but I'm sticking with what has worked. If you do use

this product please let me know if it helps you. I have had other

improvements too in my blood chemistry but whether that's coincidental

is yet to be seen. This is the first real relief I have had in all

these many years and I hope it will make the difference for many of

you. Love and healing to you all, GailPost # 71681-- In , Leyna <leyna1964@...> wrote:

>>

>> Not sure if I've mentioned it here or not, but I've been eating 1-2

> raw organic garlic cloves every morning and night, and my Fibro is a

> LOT better! If I wake up hurting, and eat the garlic, the pain is

> gone in less than an hour!

>>

>> freebindi <bindi@...> wrote: Hmm. It's interesting that

> so many of us have the classical symptoms of fibromyalgia. I think

> people are afraid to use that F-word. Telling someone they have fibro

> is like a death sentence. I have come to terms with the reality that

> I have all the symptoms of F and though the thought scares me (the

> longterm prognosis for F is not very pretty), I can't give up. I

> spend a lot of time doing research, so much so that my sweetheart

> thinks I am seriously losing my hold on reality.

>>

>> I wish I could kidnap Kenda's ND and keep him in my house. Anyone

> who can turn fibro around is a genius.

>>

>> Bindi

>> Re: tender points

>>

>>

>> Rogene,

>> Yes, it would be nice...but we all know that will probably never

> happen!

>>

>> Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>> Leyna,

>>

>> The tender points are where the muscles with the tight tissue

> covering them (facia) connects to the bone. . . .

>>

>> The way to get rid of them is stretch, massage, sleep, heat,

> stress and anger management, diet, etc. . . .and to keep it up,

> probably for the rest of your life.

>>

>> Wouldn't it be nice if the manufacturer's told women about FM

> before they got implants? . . . FM is one of the most common problems

> among implanted women.

>>

>> Rogene

>>

>>

>>

>> Leyna <leyna1964@...> wrote:

>> I've got them-that's how I was diagnosed. Very painful ones,

> on a lot of different parts of my body. From what I understand about

> Fibro, you can have many, many tender points on your body, other than

> the ones that are on the diagrams of the Fibro tender points. But

> having at least 11 of the 18 means you have it. I had a lot more,

> and still do.

>>

>> Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: I did years ago, that is how

> I was diagnosed. They are now gone.

>>

>> Kenda

>>

>>> Hey everyone,

>>> I was just curious-- how many people have or had the "tender

> points" that are

>>> the signpost of fibro? I definitely do-- and they are VERY

> painful. And if so,

>>> did they go away?

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