Gayle: tgf beta 1

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Hi Gayle,

I'm only getting this test because I had mold in my implants. This is about the

only test I haven't done yet from Shoemaker's protocol, (mold doc in land)

http://www.biotoxin.info/. Elevated TGF has something to do with cytokine

production (inflammation), and there may be a link to neuropathy. I, along with

two good support friends, have suffered from contamination and neuropathy type

problems. Both their levels were highly elevated, although mine may be quite

normal. I just have to know.

hugs,

Beth L.

hi beth;

am wondering about this tgf beta 1 test - is this a blood test? is it an

accurate indicator for mold anywhere in the body, even the brain? does any lab

do this?

thanks.

gg

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GG ~

Exactly what neuro symptoms do you

have ? Do you have any brain fog ?

forgetfulness ? word recall problems ?

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hi beth;

i've had neuro-type problems since '01 - am wondering if this test can tell if its in the brain, as i test negative for mold. also, do you know whats the best remedy?

thanks much.

gg

Gayle: tgf beta 1

Hi Gayle,I'm only getting this test because I had mold in my implants. This is about the only test I haven't done yet from Shoemaker's protocol, (mold doc in land) http://www.biotoxin.info/. Elevated TGF has something to do with cytokine production (inflammation), and there may be a link to neuropathy. I, along with two good support friends, have suffered from contamination and neuropathy type problems. Both their levels were highly elevated, although mine may be quite normal. I just have to know.hugs,Beth L.hi beth;am wondering about this tgf beta 1 test - is this a blood test? is it an accurate indicator for mold anywhere in the body, even the brain? does any lab do this?thanks.gg

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hi dede;

all the above - brain fog not as bad, but have tremor ( shakiness and weakness like when you have a bad flu) - i was so weak at one point i could only stay at the store a few minutes, as i had to sit down. started after the silicone injections, also digestive problems - highly allergic to foods and other. the weakness has gotten a llittle better over time - shaky feeling still there - foods, chemicals aggravate it. i do enemas, saunas. fasting is hard, because i'm already so thin. i could eat all day and not gain - i do eat healthy tho. the silicone was unknown to me - the dr. lied about what it was.

hope you feel ok.

gg

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Hi Gayle,

Since it's just a blood test, I think it checks for elevated inflammation

levels, a good to know kind of test and may explain weird lingering problems. I

think Dr. Shoemaker uses Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy (MRS) to test how mold

affects the brain. I have two friends who went to him. My insurance wouldn't

cover it, so I just documented what they found out. Also, I used a recommended

fungal laboratory, Mycometrics, to test my implants since so many of the usual

labs don't culture properly for mold.

There are just so many things about the implants that can cause women to get

really sick. I started having heart problems a week after getting my implants,

and I don't think it was a mold issue at that point. I also had very high levels

of tin after getting the implants removed, and Dr. Kolb helped me get those

levels down.

hugs,

Beth

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hi beth;

do you happen to know dr shoemakers phone no? cant find one on the web, only e-mail i guess.

thanks.

gg

Re: Gayle: tgf beta 1

Hi Gayle,Since it's just a blood test, I think it checks for elevated inflammation levels, a good to know kind of test and may explain weird lingering problems. I think Dr. Shoemaker uses Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy (MRS) to test how mold affects the brain. I have two friends who went to him. My insurance wouldn't cover it, so I just documented what they found out. Also, I used a recommended fungal laboratory, Mycometrics, to test my implants since so many of the usual labs don't culture properly for mold. There are just so many things about the implants that can cause women to get really sick. I started having heart problems a week after getting my implants, and I don't think it was a mold issue at that point. I also had very high levels of tin after getting the implants removed, and Dr. Kolb helped me get those levels down.hugs,Beth

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Hi GG, here, just want to make a clarification, you have silicone injections? Not the saline implants? What did your doctor tell you that he was injecting when he was doing it? Thank you.hi dede;

all the above - brain fog not as bad, but have tremor ( shakiness and weakness like when you have a bad flu) - i was so weak at one point i could only stay at the store a few minutes, as i had to sit down. started after the silicone injections, also digestive problems - highly allergic to foods and other.  the weakness has gotten a llittle better over time - shaky feeling still there - foods, chemicals aggravate it.  i do enemas, saunas.  fasting is hard, because i'm already so thin.  i could eat all day and not gain - i do eat healthy tho. the silicone was unknown to me - the dr. lied about what it was. 

hope you feel ok.

gg

 

 

 

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GG ~ Exactly what neuro symptoms do youhave ?    Do you have any brain fog ? forgetfulness ?  word recall problems ? Dede************ **Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel. aol.com/travel- ideas/domestic/ national- tourism-week? ncid=emlcntustra v00000002)

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hi dr;

this was done in mexico where they get away with this stuff. the reason i went down there was a group of women from my state went, and i trusted them to know. . (turns out they were also lied to) anyway, the dr. said it was silica, a natural mineral substance, 'perfectly natural' was the way he described it. the leader of this group (a woman in the permanent make up business here) was, and is a crook. she was being paid by this dr. to bring women in, and lying to them. i wish there was a way to get her too. believe me, i investigated this whole thing after this happened, and there was really nothing i could do to get any restitution.

gg

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GG ~ Exactly what neuro symptoms do youhave ? Do you have any brain fog ? forgetfulness ? word recall problems ? Dede************ **Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel. aol.com/travel- ideas/domestic/ national- tourism-week? ncid=emlcntustra v00000002)

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Hi, GG, so sorry to hear that, do you still have the injections or have you had them removed already?I remembered a quotation that has helped me from previous failures in trust:"When you get hurt trusting someone, don't stop trusting, but rather just learn better whom to trust."From: gayle <glass3311@...>Subject: Re: Gayle: tgf beta 1 Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 2:18 AM

hi dr;

this was done in mexico where they get away with this stuff.  the reason i went down there was a group of women from my state went, and i trusted them  to know. .  (turns out they were also lied to)  anyway, the dr. said it was silica, a natural mineral substance, 'perfectly natural' was the way he described it.  the leader of this group (a woman in the permanent make up business here) was, and is a crook.  she was being paid by this dr. to bring women in, and lying to them.  i wish there was a way to get her too.  believe me, i investigated this whole thing after this happened, and there was really nothing i could do to get any restitution.

gg

 

 

 

Re: Gayle: tgf beta 1

GG ~ Exactly what neuro symptoms do youhave ?    Do you have any brain fog ? forgetfulness ?  word recall problems ? Dede************ **Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel. aol.com/travel- ideas/domestic/ national- tourism-week? ncid=emlcntustra v00000002)

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hi dr;

i had the pockets the injections formed removed. but injecting free silicone like that spreads fast - my dr. told me its worse than implants.

what kind of cosmetic surgery do you do and where are you located? too bad all drs. arent as open minded as you.

thanks.

gg

Re: Gayle: tgf beta 1

GG ~ Exactly what neuro symptoms do youhave ? Do you have any brain fog ? forgetfulness ? word recall problems ? Dede************ **Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel. aol.com/travel- ideas/domestic/ national- tourism-week? ncid=emlcntustra v00000002)