Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 forgot to say I have had a lot of clogged lymph nodes, had 5 removed, but I can still feel a boatload of them. The cancer center was so flippant about them it was almost scary, they said there are a lot of them but since the other ones were noncancerous just to move on. I think this makes it worse, as it sorts of clogs the whole chest area. i don't have the answer, i have had drs say they have never seen anyone with this that was not dying of cancer, just more baffling about this experience, but the reality. oh, i worked through the chest stuff you are having, last summer was ridiculous with the irr and fast heart rate trouble breathing. no rounds of antibiotics helped me. i swear this stuff has to move through the body somehow. i did take butyrn for a long time, that seemed to help, and i am on the shoemaker protocol right now (CSM therapy) for detox, it is a powder form, but i think the butryn does the same thing , can't remember if that is the right spelling. nannette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 , You are a strong woman. I am amazed at what you endure. What you do daily without a partner that equals you. My hat is off to you for your grace and quiet endurance. hugs, Sue From: Pam Horne <pamhornecarolina (DOT) rr.com>Subject: Re: Re: God gives Christians the tools to stamp out spouse abuse among usDate: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 10:15 AM Carlene, I just read this whole attachment with great interest. In particular, I wish I could read the section of the class entitled: "The Danger of Marrying a Jerk." I had to laugh when I read it, but that's me. I married a jerk. When I try to think of the one word that defines my husband, that's the one: Jerk. I have actually told him this and now he throws it in my face when we argue, how I probably go around telling everyone he is a jerk. (I don't, btw. In fact, except for one close friend, the only place I talk about him is here [with the rest of my close friends]). Anyhow, thanks for bringing this to our attention. There are probably more than me who see themselves here. Pam Re: God gives Christians the tools to stamp out spouse abuse among us Spouse Abuse and Domestic ViolenceAmong Christians FAQ For the Abused and Those Who Help Them For Both Husband and Wife Abuse Patsy Rae Dawson http://gospelthemes .com/abuse. htm We decry the abuse of women in third world countries all in the name of religion. Yet the same degradation of women goes on in this country among many Christians, who verbally and physically abuse their wives. In addition, verbal and physical abuse of men is increasing rapidly. The shame is on our heads, because God gives Christians the tools to stamp out spouse abuse among us. Check Out the Answers to These Questions* 1. What is the first thing to tell someone in an abusive relationship? 2. How can a person know if they are in an abusive relationship or if he or she is an abuser? 3. What can a person do when the elders and preacher won't help? 4. Why are mothers abusing their children more than ever? 5. What are some of the bullying tactics abusers use to get their way? 6. What are "cluster sins"? 7. Is there hope for overcoming adultery and sexual addiction? 8. Are wives obligated to submit to physical abuse? 9. Does God trap women in marriages to abusive men? 10. How is "family abuse" different from "spouse abuse"? 11. What is a person's responsibility toward the sins of family members? 12. How did abuse by her husband and mother-in-law damage Jeanne Guyon's view of God and the Song of ? 13. What secular material is recommended on spouse abuse? 14. What Bible-based material deals with spouse abuse? 15. Can I listen to an audio discussion on the danger of marrying a jerk and the description of a desperate wife? 16. Can I get a special price on the marriage materials? 17. How can I sign up for your newsletter? *Answers adapted from the following materials from gospelthemes. com: Marriage: A Taste of Heaven:Vol. I: God's People Appreciate Marriage Marriage: A Taste of Heaven:Vol. II: God's People Make the Best Lovers Challenges in Marriage:What to Do When Sin Inhibits Love audio album Adultery and Sexual Addiction:A Plan for Healing the Soul and the Marriage WARNING! Read this first! Domestic violence against women, children, and even men presents a real danger in many homes. All writers and authorities advise those in abusive relationships to take whatever steps are necessary to protect their own safety along with that of their children. They should trust their "gut instincts" and avoid dangerous situations. Often abuse against women by men who claim to be Christians is more violent than for non-Christians, as these men mistakenly think God gave them the authority to mistreat their wives. These situations should be treated as highly dangerous. For advice on where to obtain legal or other professional services in your area, contact your elders, minister, local women's shelter, law enforcement agency, or other suitable agencies or professionals. Women's shelters and other professionals can also give advice for specific cases and information regarding local laws to people helping those who are abused. For additional help: The hotline for spouse abuse and domestic violence in the United States is 1-800-799-7233. They can refer you to women's shelters and other services in your area. Search on "violence against women" in the various search engines to find information in the United States and other countries. If alcohol is involved, contact Al-Anon and Alateen at 1-888-425-2666. The Web site for both is www.al-anon. alateen.org. Take care that information you put on your computer cannot be accessed by your batterer in an effort to find out what you are doing to help yourself. If he has access, he can read your e-mail and follow your search of helpful web sites. If you do not have a secure computer, use one at the library or use a friend's that you can trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Hi Sue, Thanks very much for your kind words. Sometimes I do not feel very "grace"ful. I think God must really be trying to show me how strong I can be. I am praying for you. I hope that your pain goes away soon and that your infection is able to be quickly and easily treated. Hugs and Prayers, From: Pam Horne <pamhornecarolina (DOT) rr.com>Subject: Re: Re: God gives Christians the tools to stamp out spouse abuse among usDate: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 10:15 AM Carlene, I just read this whole attachment with great interest. In particular, I wish I could read the section of the class entitled: "The Danger of Marrying a Jerk." I had to laugh when I read it, but that's me. I married a jerk. When I try to think of the one word that defines my husband, that's the one: Jerk. I have actually told him this and now he throws it in my face when we argue, how I probably go around telling everyone he is a jerk. (I don't, btw. In fact, except for one close friend, the only place I talk about him is here [with the rest of my close friends]). Anyhow, thanks for bringing this to our attention. There are probably more than me who see themselves here. Pam Re: God gives Christians the tools to stamp out spouse abuse among us Spouse Abuse and Domestic ViolenceAmong Christians FAQ For the Abused and Those Who Help Them For Both Husband and Wife Abuse Patsy Rae Dawson http://gospelthemes .com/abuse. htm We decry the abuse of women in third world countries all in the name of religion. Yet the same degradation of women goes on in this country among many Christians, who verbally and physically abuse their wives. In addition, verbal and physical abuse of men is increasing rapidly. The shame is on our heads, because God gives Christians the tools to stamp out spouse abuse among us. Check Out the Answers to These Questions* 1. What is the first thing to tell someone in an abusive relationship? 2. How can a person know if they are in an abusive relationship or if he or she is an abuser? 3. What can a person do when the elders and preacher won't help? 4. Why are mothers abusing their children more than ever? 5. What are some of the bullying tactics abusers use to get their way? 6. What are "cluster sins"? 7. Is there hope for overcoming adultery and sexual addiction? 8. Are wives obligated to submit to physical abuse? 9. Does God trap women in marriages to abusive men? 10. How is "family abuse" different from "spouse abuse"? 11. What is a person's responsibility toward the sins of family members? 12. How did abuse by her husband and mother-in-law damage Jeanne Guyon's view of God and the Song of ? 13. What secular material is recommended on spouse abuse? 14. What Bible-based material deals with spouse abuse? 15. Can I listen to an audio discussion on the danger of marrying a jerk and the description of a desperate wife? 16. Can I get a special price on the marriage materials? 17. How can I sign up for your newsletter? *Answers adapted from the following materials from gospelthemes. com: Marriage: A Taste of Heaven:Vol. I: God's People Appreciate Marriage Marriage: A Taste of Heaven:Vol. II: God's People Make the Best Lovers Challenges in Marriage:What to Do When Sin Inhibits Love audio album Adultery and Sexual Addiction:A Plan for Healing the Soul and the Marriage WARNING! Read this first! Domestic violence against women, children, and even men presents a real danger in many homes. All writers and authorities advise those in abusive relationships to take whatever steps are necessary to protect their own safety along with that of their children. They should trust their "gut instincts" and avoid dangerous situations. Often abuse against women by men who claim to be Christians is more violent than for non-Christians, as these men mistakenly think God gave them the authority to mistreat their wives. These situations should be treated as highly dangerous. For advice on where to obtain legal or other professional services in your area, contact your elders, minister, local women's shelter, law enforcement agency, or other suitable agencies or professionals. Women's shelters and other professionals can also give advice for specific cases and information regarding local laws to people helping those who are abused. For additional help: The hotline for spouse abuse and domestic violence in the United States is 1-800-799-7233. They can refer you to women's shelters and other services in your area. Search on "violence against women" in the various search engines to find information in the United States and other countries. If alcohol is involved, contact Al-Anon and Alateen at 1-888-425-2666. The Web site for both is www.al-anon. alateen.org. Take care that information you put on your computer cannot be accessed by your batterer in an effort to find out what you are doing to help yourself. If he has access, he can read your e-mail and follow your search of helpful web sites. If you do not have a secure computer, use one at the library or use a friend's that you can trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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