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In a message dated 05/12/2000 12:47:25 PM Central Daylight Time,

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<< ,too was bugged by the post of the nurse who was on Medicaid and denied by

Dr.R. BUt I kept thinking " There is such a nursing shortage,why is she on

medicaid and not getting insurance? " I couldn't get past that,so anything

she

said about Dr.R went in one ear and out the other. Maybe it's because of a

disability from obesity(back problems)..................I don't know,don't

flame me I'm pleading ignorance!

O. >>

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She is a nurse and she has insurance. But was denied through a policy

exclusion three times. She found a way to have the surgery, but they would

only pay at the Medicaid rate. So, yes, she is employed, has insurance, and

is a productive citizen who has been trying to have this procedure for nine

months to a year. I hope this clarifies things for you and those who want to

know.

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In a message dated 05/12/2000 12:47:25 PM Central Daylight Time,

Boingy300@... writes:

<< ,too was bugged by the post of the nurse who was on Medicaid and denied by

Dr.R. BUt I kept thinking " There is such a nursing shortage,why is she on

medicaid and not getting insurance? " I couldn't get past that,so anything

she

said about Dr.R went in one ear and out the other. Maybe it's because of a

disability from obesity(back problems)..................I don't know,don't

flame me I'm pleading ignorance!

O. >>

,

She is a nurse and she has insurance. But was denied through a policy

exclusion three times. She found a way to have the surgery, but they would

only pay at the Medicaid rate. So, yes, she is employed, has insurance, and

is a productive citizen who has been trying to have this procedure for nine

months to a year. I hope this clarifies things for you and those who want to

know.

le

awaiting approval...currently in medical review.

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In a message dated 05/12/2000 12:47:25 PM Central Daylight Time,

Boingy300@... writes:

<< ,too was bugged by the post of the nurse who was on Medicaid and denied by

Dr.R. BUt I kept thinking " There is such a nursing shortage,why is she on

medicaid and not getting insurance? " I couldn't get past that,so anything

she

said about Dr.R went in one ear and out the other. Maybe it's because of a

disability from obesity(back problems)..................I don't know,don't

flame me I'm pleading ignorance!

O. >>

,

She is a nurse and she has insurance. But was denied through a policy

exclusion three times. She found a way to have the surgery, but they would

only pay at the Medicaid rate. So, yes, she is employed, has insurance, and

is a productive citizen who has been trying to have this procedure for nine

months to a year. I hope this clarifies things for you and those who want to

know.

le

awaiting approval...currently in medical review.

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If you would read her letter again you will see that she is not on

medicaid..she was denied by her insurance and the suggestion of medicaid was

made to her and accepted with a difference of 500 bucks payment between

insurance and medicaid payments. My only concern was why not go ahead and

pay the $500 difference.

Read carefully before making remarks...thats what causes so many ruffled hen

feathers on the board :)

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I see your point BROOKSLAW1, but I am the hypothetical situation that I threw

out to the group. I do have Medicaid.

My ruffled feathers are from the fact that it is what happened on Monday of

this week when I called to set my appointment for surgery.

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I see your point BROOKSLAW1, but I am the hypothetical situation that I threw

out to the group. I do have Medicaid.

My ruffled feathers are from the fact that it is what happened on Monday of

this week when I called to set my appointment for surgery.

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Dear ,

One thing that struck me odd was if $500 is such a bone of contention

with her and the surgery, why didn't she come up with the difference? I bet if I

needed $500 my family or friends would come through for me. I can't imagine not

having the MGB for a $500 difference. I would have a garage sale, bake sale, ask

my church to help or something to raise the money. As far as Dr. R, this is his

livelihood and I am sure he has bills and expenses and he has to draw the line

somewhere. He did tell her that he would reconsider accepting her

medicare/medicaid after about six months. The thing that seems to keep getting

lost is Dr. Rutledge is only human. He is subject to the same daily struggles

with life. Granted he may have the resources to have someone do his yardwork or

clean his house or whatever.....but he has paid his dues. He had to work hard to

get through medical school and someone had to pay for it. Whether it was Dr.R or

his family or student loans or his hard work to earn scholorships or whatever.

My

point is it takes a lot of money to get through college, medical school, set up

a

practice and pay salaries and overhead. There is no reason for anyone to expect

him to lose money. He is a gracious and compassionate man regardless of what she

said. It is my opinion that she was expecting too much. If she wants the MGB

then

maybe she needs to work a little harder at obtaining it. $500 is not

insurmountable. I think she is a cop out. I will gladly accept all flame

throwing.

Just my opinion,

Genz

Boingy300@... wrote:

> I,too was bugged by the post of the nurse who was on Medicaid and denied by

> Dr.R. BUt I kept thinking " There is such a nursing shortage,why is she on

> medicaid and not getting insurance? " I couldn't get past that,so anything she

> said about Dr.R went in one ear and out the other. Maybe it's because of a

> disability from obesity(back problems)..................I don't know,don't

> flame me I'm pleading ignorance!

> O.

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Genz:

Please don't shoot me either. But concerning the nurse who had medicaid. I may

be

wrong however, my understanding of medicaid is that the doctor must be willing

to

accept what medicaid pays them. If they were to charge a fee on top of that it

is

considered medicaid fraud and that is not a good thing. So it is not a matter

of

coming up with an additional $500 dollars on her part. Please don't shoot me,

I'm

just trying to explain.

Darlene

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Genz:

Please don't shoot me either. But concerning the nurse who had medicaid. I may

be

wrong however, my understanding of medicaid is that the doctor must be willing

to

accept what medicaid pays them. If they were to charge a fee on top of that it

is

considered medicaid fraud and that is not a good thing. So it is not a matter

of

coming up with an additional $500 dollars on her part. Please don't shoot me,

I'm

just trying to explain.

Darlene

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Dear Darlene,

Thanks for the explanation, it is a point that I didn't consider because

I'm

not familiar with medicaid. I would never shoot you or be mad at you, I don't

mean

anyone any harm. I just thought it very strange that $500 would keep someone

from

having this surgery. If additional payment on top of what medicaid pays is

considered

fraud then I stand corrected. If it is not fraud or in any other way illegal I

still

feel the same way. I'm not an attorney but there are several on this list. Maybe

they

have a take on this. It still seems strange to me.

All the Best,

Genz

Young wrote:

> Genz:

> Please don't shoot me either. But concerning the nurse who had medicaid. I

may be

> wrong however, my understanding of medicaid is that the doctor must be

willing to

> accept what medicaid pays them. If they were to charge a fee on top of that

it is

> considered medicaid fraud and that is not a good thing. So it is not a matter

of

> coming up with an additional $500 dollars on her part. Please don't shoot me,

I'm

> just trying to explain.

> Darlene

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Dear Darlene,

Thanks for the explanation, it is a point that I didn't consider because

I'm

not familiar with medicaid. I would never shoot you or be mad at you, I don't

mean

anyone any harm. I just thought it very strange that $500 would keep someone

from

having this surgery. If additional payment on top of what medicaid pays is

considered

fraud then I stand corrected. If it is not fraud or in any other way illegal I

still

feel the same way. I'm not an attorney but there are several on this list. Maybe

they

have a take on this. It still seems strange to me.

All the Best,

Genz

Young wrote:

> Genz:

> Please don't shoot me either. But concerning the nurse who had medicaid. I

may be

> wrong however, my understanding of medicaid is that the doctor must be

willing to

> accept what medicaid pays them. If they were to charge a fee on top of that

it is

> considered medicaid fraud and that is not a good thing. So it is not a matter

of

> coming up with an additional $500 dollars on her part. Please don't shoot me,

I'm

> just trying to explain.

> Darlene

>

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> experiments.

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> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

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