Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 To both of you and everyone, ITS TRUE! SO true! I can tell you, that one corner of a gummy bear and one, just one mcdonalds chicken nugget, caused harm for Hunter, months ago. My SCD views: The thing about starving is, the kid is NOT starving! The gut bugs are starving, and causing great discomfort and cravings in the individual. Like with sugar, you crave it when it is in your diet, but when it is out, you no longer want it, it tastes sickeningly sweet. I just wanted to add this to the convo, my kids, Hunter since 1 year, would not eat anything but milk and non edible foods. I started cooking everything by hand, home-made, down to the gluten free breads, and expanded his and Ben's food menu a tiny bit. But, who is sastified with a tiny, unhealthy menu??? If it is going to be tiny, might as well be good healthy foods that don't feed gut bugs! Believe me, we have been around the block trying this diet, and that diet. SCD was the FIRST diet that incorporated everything...no grains, no sugar, no yeast, home made. And guess what? After the initial holding out, starving periods, both of my boys started eating more foods! Slowly, of course, I might have to introduce a texture a couple of times first. Now, they try things with relish. I say this because we too have been in those shoes. We feel so bad the kid is starving. Hindsight, they say is 20/20, and when I look at my boys who are starting to develop more and more normally, SPEAKING, potty trained, learning how to cook and write, blasting through all previous short comings on evaluations...we learned how to cut with scissors this year and ride bikes...yikes, isn't that worth it? It is! It is! Ben is growing! He has gone from a size 24 months at the beginning of this year to size 4T and 5T clothes this year and he just turned 5! Besides tests, or measures people like to do, the number one thing anyone can do to start wading to the bottom of these sensitivities, start the intro diet, and gradually add SCD approved foods back in. This will say so much, and it is all possible. What maybe some people don't understand, is, no matter the diet, starting out with a proper elimination introduction should be done, or one may never get a real feel (not test results on paper), but a real feel for food reactions. I keep saying this too, what seems harder at first ends up being easiest, and what seems easiest at first, ends up being hardest. This is my experience. If a diet seems hard at first, imagine how much easier life will be when things have healed some? For us, we jumped into digestive enzymes, which help with digestion and yeast busting. We picked a brand with good repor, and after a trial, moved onto another one, then another one, which was Houston's which we found worked so well. I consider SCD a blessing in our life. We do SCD, and since I suffer from inflammation, I took the anti-inflammatory diet my doctor gave me, and chose the foods that were SCD legal. We do enzymes, we have to eat all organic, and keep chemical residues down in the house, and it seems like a heck of alot of work, but it is easy. My kids are talking, potty trained, painful anal cysts have been in complete remission for over a year, less overall yeast flares and rashes, less problems with ammonia (Ben can't have too much protein, weak kidney function), management for both my kids hypoglycemia and my own, better absorption of fatty acids, more routine poops, cured whatever diarhea problem no doctor could figure out, Ben had constant diarhea since 8 months old, and this is all just the tip of the iceberg. Now, I save money for not having to buy large diapers, and quick fixes for other mysterious problems. We are not completely healed, it is not realistic to expect healing to occur rapidly, for problems that have gone on for years. Just makes sense. So, all I know, these kids bodies, my own body, absolutely starving! Starving, starving, it is a sick and diseased state. Sometimes, all it takes is bearing down, absolutely no illegals for 6 months, do a proper elimination diet and reintroduction of foods, slowly, one food at a time, and my own opinion, start looking into digestive enzymes. They are safe, and even if they do not work for someone, they don't know until they try, and different enzymes work for different people. It's too late in this part of the game to try anything sort of, and expect it to work. The food thing does get better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, there seems to be correlative evidence at this point, that children with digestive problems, autism, adhd and other cases of metabolic dysfunction are more likely to have offspring with similar or even worse problems. Healing todays young ones is going to make a greater impact in the future of society, beyond them. That is my own opinion. I am inspired that many native tribes think of the future, the generations that come later, in the decisions of today. LOL I kind of went off on my own opinion there, nevertheless, holding fast to SCD, theres alot to be learned from it. Say someone wants to leave the SCDiet. They should only do so if they understand why it has not worked, the root of it. Then they will know where to move next, if there is a next. Applying that strategy to any diet will make it more successful. No one needs MSG. No one needs bht, bha, annatto, no one needs sugar, no one needs to consume food their body cannot digest and use, no one with pathogenic gut flora or explosive populations of yeast do, thats for sure. The answers may be different for everyone, but some of the techniques to get there are the same. I admire all the time you devote to this site, Jody, and all the other wonderful moderators, Carol, Sheila, all the great posters, , Dana and so many others I have learned heap loads from. This site is golden, SCD is golden. We don't need all this junk in our diet to flavor and color old foods!!!!!! My wish for the NEW YEAR is health and healthy food for all people, everywhere! SCD rocks! Summer " Jody G. " momtobandj@...> wrote: , You are right. Most people when they hear " no convenience foods " they think starvation diet...LOL. " No Mc's, no frozen pizzas, no pop or potato chips... my kid would starve " .... The truth is that those kids' bodies ARE starving- for real nutrition. It makes me want to cry to see what people put in their shopping carts and feed to their kids. My MIL is a big fan of blogs. I told her that I should start one called " Jody's Soap Box News " and the first entry would be able children who are not being fed or given proper exercise and if I wrote it well, I bet people would be up in ARMS, until they realize that it's THEIR kids that I'm talking about. Kids in this country are lab rats to see what happens to a society when children are malnourished and don't receive appropriate physical exercise. We don't need outsiders to kill us, we are voluntarily doing it to our own society. What will happen 20-30 years from now when these kids hit middle age? They will be so sick... it's so sad. And even worse, we are exporting our ways to all of the " up and coming " industrialized nations of the world. Mc's is everywhere. It's crazy. Well, I better get off that soap box now... LOL Happy New Year to everyone! Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 To both of you and everyone, ITS TRUE! SO true! I can tell you, that one corner of a gummy bear and one, just one mcdonalds chicken nugget, caused harm for Hunter, months ago. My SCD views: The thing about starving is, the kid is NOT starving! The gut bugs are starving, and causing great discomfort and cravings in the individual. Like with sugar, you crave it when it is in your diet, but when it is out, you no longer want it, it tastes sickeningly sweet. I just wanted to add this to the convo, my kids, Hunter since 1 year, would not eat anything but milk and non edible foods. I started cooking everything by hand, home-made, down to the gluten free breads, and expanded his and Ben's food menu a tiny bit. But, who is sastified with a tiny, unhealthy menu??? If it is going to be tiny, might as well be good healthy foods that don't feed gut bugs! Believe me, we have been around the block trying this diet, and that diet. SCD was the FIRST diet that incorporated everything...no grains, no sugar, no yeast, home made. And guess what? After the initial holding out, starving periods, both of my boys started eating more foods! Slowly, of course, I might have to introduce a texture a couple of times first. Now, they try things with relish. I say this because we too have been in those shoes. We feel so bad the kid is starving. Hindsight, they say is 20/20, and when I look at my boys who are starting to develop more and more normally, SPEAKING, potty trained, learning how to cook and write, blasting through all previous short comings on evaluations...we learned how to cut with scissors this year and ride bikes...yikes, isn't that worth it? It is! It is! Ben is growing! He has gone from a size 24 months at the beginning of this year to size 4T and 5T clothes this year and he just turned 5! Besides tests, or measures people like to do, the number one thing anyone can do to start wading to the bottom of these sensitivities, start the intro diet, and gradually add SCD approved foods back in. This will say so much, and it is all possible. What maybe some people don't understand, is, no matter the diet, starting out with a proper elimination introduction should be done, or one may never get a real feel (not test results on paper), but a real feel for food reactions. I keep saying this too, what seems harder at first ends up being easiest, and what seems easiest at first, ends up being hardest. This is my experience. If a diet seems hard at first, imagine how much easier life will be when things have healed some? For us, we jumped into digestive enzymes, which help with digestion and yeast busting. We picked a brand with good repor, and after a trial, moved onto another one, then another one, which was Houston's which we found worked so well. I consider SCD a blessing in our life. We do SCD, and since I suffer from inflammation, I took the anti-inflammatory diet my doctor gave me, and chose the foods that were SCD legal. We do enzymes, we have to eat all organic, and keep chemical residues down in the house, and it seems like a heck of alot of work, but it is easy. My kids are talking, potty trained, painful anal cysts have been in complete remission for over a year, less overall yeast flares and rashes, less problems with ammonia (Ben can't have too much protein, weak kidney function), management for both my kids hypoglycemia and my own, better absorption of fatty acids, more routine poops, cured whatever diarhea problem no doctor could figure out, Ben had constant diarhea since 8 months old, and this is all just the tip of the iceberg. Now, I save money for not having to buy large diapers, and quick fixes for other mysterious problems. We are not completely healed, it is not realistic to expect healing to occur rapidly, for problems that have gone on for years. Just makes sense. So, all I know, these kids bodies, my own body, absolutely starving! Starving, starving, it is a sick and diseased state. Sometimes, all it takes is bearing down, absolutely no illegals for 6 months, do a proper elimination diet and reintroduction of foods, slowly, one food at a time, and my own opinion, start looking into digestive enzymes. They are safe, and even if they do not work for someone, they don't know until they try, and different enzymes work for different people. It's too late in this part of the game to try anything sort of, and expect it to work. The food thing does get better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, there seems to be correlative evidence at this point, that children with digestive problems, autism, adhd and other cases of metabolic dysfunction are more likely to have offspring with similar or even worse problems. Healing todays young ones is going to make a greater impact in the future of society, beyond them. That is my own opinion. I am inspired that many native tribes think of the future, the generations that come later, in the decisions of today. LOL I kind of went off on my own opinion there, nevertheless, holding fast to SCD, theres alot to be learned from it. Say someone wants to leave the SCDiet. They should only do so if they understand why it has not worked, the root of it. Then they will know where to move next, if there is a next. Applying that strategy to any diet will make it more successful. No one needs MSG. No one needs bht, bha, annatto, no one needs sugar, no one needs to consume food their body cannot digest and use, no one with pathogenic gut flora or explosive populations of yeast do, thats for sure. The answers may be different for everyone, but some of the techniques to get there are the same. I admire all the time you devote to this site, Jody, and all the other wonderful moderators, Carol, Sheila, all the great posters, , Dana and so many others I have learned heap loads from. This site is golden, SCD is golden. We don't need all this junk in our diet to flavor and color old foods!!!!!! My wish for the NEW YEAR is health and healthy food for all people, everywhere! SCD rocks! Summer " Jody G. " momtobandj@...> wrote: , You are right. Most people when they hear " no convenience foods " they think starvation diet...LOL. " No Mc's, no frozen pizzas, no pop or potato chips... my kid would starve " .... The truth is that those kids' bodies ARE starving- for real nutrition. It makes me want to cry to see what people put in their shopping carts and feed to their kids. My MIL is a big fan of blogs. I told her that I should start one called " Jody's Soap Box News " and the first entry would be able children who are not being fed or given proper exercise and if I wrote it well, I bet people would be up in ARMS, until they realize that it's THEIR kids that I'm talking about. Kids in this country are lab rats to see what happens to a society when children are malnourished and don't receive appropriate physical exercise. We don't need outsiders to kill us, we are voluntarily doing it to our own society. What will happen 20-30 years from now when these kids hit middle age? They will be so sick... it's so sad. And even worse, we are exporting our ways to all of the " up and coming " industrialized nations of the world. Mc's is everywhere. It's crazy. Well, I better get off that soap box now... LOL Happy New Year to everyone! Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 To both of you and everyone, ITS TRUE! SO true! I can tell you, that one corner of a gummy bear and one, just one mcdonalds chicken nugget, caused harm for Hunter, months ago. My SCD views: The thing about starving is, the kid is NOT starving! The gut bugs are starving, and causing great discomfort and cravings in the individual. Like with sugar, you crave it when it is in your diet, but when it is out, you no longer want it, it tastes sickeningly sweet. I just wanted to add this to the convo, my kids, Hunter since 1 year, would not eat anything but milk and non edible foods. I started cooking everything by hand, home-made, down to the gluten free breads, and expanded his and Ben's food menu a tiny bit. But, who is sastified with a tiny, unhealthy menu??? If it is going to be tiny, might as well be good healthy foods that don't feed gut bugs! Believe me, we have been around the block trying this diet, and that diet. SCD was the FIRST diet that incorporated everything...no grains, no sugar, no yeast, home made. And guess what? After the initial holding out, starving periods, both of my boys started eating more foods! Slowly, of course, I might have to introduce a texture a couple of times first. Now, they try things with relish. I say this because we too have been in those shoes. We feel so bad the kid is starving. Hindsight, they say is 20/20, and when I look at my boys who are starting to develop more and more normally, SPEAKING, potty trained, learning how to cook and write, blasting through all previous short comings on evaluations...we learned how to cut with scissors this year and ride bikes...yikes, isn't that worth it? It is! It is! Ben is growing! He has gone from a size 24 months at the beginning of this year to size 4T and 5T clothes this year and he just turned 5! Besides tests, or measures people like to do, the number one thing anyone can do to start wading to the bottom of these sensitivities, start the intro diet, and gradually add SCD approved foods back in. This will say so much, and it is all possible. What maybe some people don't understand, is, no matter the diet, starting out with a proper elimination introduction should be done, or one may never get a real feel (not test results on paper), but a real feel for food reactions. I keep saying this too, what seems harder at first ends up being easiest, and what seems easiest at first, ends up being hardest. This is my experience. If a diet seems hard at first, imagine how much easier life will be when things have healed some? For us, we jumped into digestive enzymes, which help with digestion and yeast busting. We picked a brand with good repor, and after a trial, moved onto another one, then another one, which was Houston's which we found worked so well. I consider SCD a blessing in our life. We do SCD, and since I suffer from inflammation, I took the anti-inflammatory diet my doctor gave me, and chose the foods that were SCD legal. We do enzymes, we have to eat all organic, and keep chemical residues down in the house, and it seems like a heck of alot of work, but it is easy. My kids are talking, potty trained, painful anal cysts have been in complete remission for over a year, less overall yeast flares and rashes, less problems with ammonia (Ben can't have too much protein, weak kidney function), management for both my kids hypoglycemia and my own, better absorption of fatty acids, more routine poops, cured whatever diarhea problem no doctor could figure out, Ben had constant diarhea since 8 months old, and this is all just the tip of the iceberg. Now, I save money for not having to buy large diapers, and quick fixes for other mysterious problems. We are not completely healed, it is not realistic to expect healing to occur rapidly, for problems that have gone on for years. Just makes sense. So, all I know, these kids bodies, my own body, absolutely starving! Starving, starving, it is a sick and diseased state. Sometimes, all it takes is bearing down, absolutely no illegals for 6 months, do a proper elimination diet and reintroduction of foods, slowly, one food at a time, and my own opinion, start looking into digestive enzymes. They are safe, and even if they do not work for someone, they don't know until they try, and different enzymes work for different people. It's too late in this part of the game to try anything sort of, and expect it to work. The food thing does get better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, there seems to be correlative evidence at this point, that children with digestive problems, autism, adhd and other cases of metabolic dysfunction are more likely to have offspring with similar or even worse problems. Healing todays young ones is going to make a greater impact in the future of society, beyond them. That is my own opinion. I am inspired that many native tribes think of the future, the generations that come later, in the decisions of today. LOL I kind of went off on my own opinion there, nevertheless, holding fast to SCD, theres alot to be learned from it. Say someone wants to leave the SCDiet. They should only do so if they understand why it has not worked, the root of it. Then they will know where to move next, if there is a next. Applying that strategy to any diet will make it more successful. No one needs MSG. No one needs bht, bha, annatto, no one needs sugar, no one needs to consume food their body cannot digest and use, no one with pathogenic gut flora or explosive populations of yeast do, thats for sure. The answers may be different for everyone, but some of the techniques to get there are the same. I admire all the time you devote to this site, Jody, and all the other wonderful moderators, Carol, Sheila, all the great posters, , Dana and so many others I have learned heap loads from. This site is golden, SCD is golden. We don't need all this junk in our diet to flavor and color old foods!!!!!! My wish for the NEW YEAR is health and healthy food for all people, everywhere! SCD rocks! Summer " Jody G. " momtobandj@...> wrote: , You are right. Most people when they hear " no convenience foods " they think starvation diet...LOL. " No Mc's, no frozen pizzas, no pop or potato chips... my kid would starve " .... The truth is that those kids' bodies ARE starving- for real nutrition. It makes me want to cry to see what people put in their shopping carts and feed to their kids. My MIL is a big fan of blogs. I told her that I should start one called " Jody's Soap Box News " and the first entry would be able children who are not being fed or given proper exercise and if I wrote it well, I bet people would be up in ARMS, until they realize that it's THEIR kids that I'm talking about. Kids in this country are lab rats to see what happens to a society when children are malnourished and don't receive appropriate physical exercise. We don't need outsiders to kill us, we are voluntarily doing it to our own society. What will happen 20-30 years from now when these kids hit middle age? They will be so sick... it's so sad. And even worse, we are exporting our ways to all of the " up and coming " industrialized nations of the world. Mc's is everywhere. It's crazy. Well, I better get off that soap box now... LOL Happy New Year to everyone! Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Since I got you right here Summer, I was wondering if it is a problem for our bodies to detox too fast? Is it unhealthy? I know you have posted some things in the past about detox and I have read the stuff from Elaine but, it wasn't clear weather it was dangerous to detox too fast. Can you comment on this? Thanks. Jenn L Re: Re: WAS: High Ammonia issues. now Jodyreply > To both of you and everyone, ITS TRUE! SO true! I can tell you, that one corner of a gummy bear and one, just one mcdonalds chicken nugget, caused harm for Hunter, months ago. > > My SCD views: > The thing about starving is, the kid is NOT starving! The gut bugs are starving, and causing great discomfort and cravings in the individual. Like with sugar, you crave it when it is in your diet, but when it is out, you no longer want it, it tastes sickeningly sweet. > > I just wanted to add this to the convo, my kids, Hunter since 1 year, would not eat anything but milk and non edible foods. I started cooking everything by hand, home-made, down to the gluten free breads, and expanded his and Ben's food menu a tiny bit. > > But, who is sastified with a tiny, unhealthy menu??? If it is going to be tiny, might as well be good healthy foods that don't feed gut bugs! Believe me, we have been around the block trying this diet, and that diet. SCD was the FIRST diet that incorporated everything...no grains, no sugar, no yeast, home made. > > And guess what? After the initial holding out, starving periods, both of my boys started eating more foods! Slowly, of course, I might have to introduce a texture a couple of times first. Now, they try things with relish. > > I say this because we too have been in those shoes. We feel so bad the kid is starving. Hindsight, they say is 20/20, and when I look at my boys who are starting to develop more and more normally, SPEAKING, potty trained, learning how to cook and write, blasting through all previous short comings on evaluations...we learned how to cut with scissors this year and ride bikes...yikes, isn't that worth it? It is! It is! Ben is growing! He has gone from a size 24 months at the beginning of this year to size 4T and 5T clothes this year and he just turned 5! > > Besides tests, or measures people like to do, the number one thing anyone can do to start wading to the bottom of these sensitivities, start the intro diet, and gradually add SCD approved foods back in. This will say so much, and it is all possible. What maybe some people don't understand, is, no matter the diet, starting out with a proper elimination introduction should be done, or one may never get a real feel (not test results on paper), but a real feel for food reactions. > > I keep saying this too, what seems harder at first ends up being easiest, and what seems easiest at first, ends up being hardest. This is my experience. If a diet seems hard at first, imagine how much easier life will be when things have healed some? > > For us, we jumped into digestive enzymes, which help with digestion and yeast busting. We picked a brand with good repor, and after a trial, moved onto another one, then another one, which was Houston's which we found worked so well. > > I consider SCD a blessing in our life. We do SCD, and since I suffer from inflammation, I took the anti-inflammatory diet my doctor gave me, and chose the foods that were SCD legal. We do enzymes, we have to eat all organic, and keep chemical residues down in the house, and it seems like a heck of alot of work, but it is easy. My kids are talking, potty trained, painful anal cysts have been in complete remission for over a year, less overall yeast flares and rashes, less problems with ammonia (Ben can't have too much protein, weak kidney function), management for both my kids hypoglycemia and my own, better absorption of fatty acids, more routine poops, cured whatever diarhea problem no doctor could figure out, Ben had constant diarhea since 8 months old, and this is all just the tip of the iceberg. > > Now, I save money for not having to buy large diapers, and quick fixes for other mysterious problems. We are not completely healed, it is not realistic to expect healing to occur rapidly, for problems that have gone on for years. Just makes sense. > > So, all I know, these kids bodies, my own body, absolutely starving! Starving, starving, it is a sick and diseased state. Sometimes, all it takes is bearing down, absolutely no illegals for 6 months, do a proper elimination diet and reintroduction of foods, slowly, one food at a time, and my own opinion, start looking into digestive enzymes. They are safe, and even if they do not work for someone, they don't know until they try, and different enzymes work for different people. It's too late in this part of the game to try anything sort of, and expect it to work. > > The food thing does get better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, there seems to be correlative evidence at this point, that children with digestive problems, autism, adhd and other cases of metabolic dysfunction are more likely to have offspring with similar or even worse problems. Healing todays young ones is going to make a greater impact in the future of society, beyond them. That is my own opinion. I am inspired that many native tribes think of the future, the generations that come later, in the decisions of today. > > LOL I kind of went off on my own opinion there, nevertheless, holding fast to SCD, theres alot to be learned from it. Say someone wants to leave the SCDiet. They should only do so if they understand why it has not worked, the root of it. Then they will know where to move next, if there is a next. Applying that strategy to any diet will make it more successful. > > No one needs MSG. No one needs bht, bha, annatto, no one needs sugar, no one needs to consume food their body cannot digest and use, no one with pathogenic gut flora or explosive populations of yeast do, thats for sure. The answers may be different for everyone, but some of the techniques to get there are the same. > > I admire all the time you devote to this site, Jody, and all the other wonderful moderators, Carol, Sheila, all the great posters, , Dana and so many others I have learned heap loads from. This site is golden, SCD is golden. We don't need all this junk in our diet to flavor and color old foods!!!!!! My wish for the NEW YEAR is health and healthy food for all people, everywhere! > > SCD rocks! > > Summer > > > " Jody G. " momtobandj@...> wrote: > , > > You are right. > Most people when they hear " no convenience foods " they think > starvation diet...LOL. > " No Mc's, no frozen pizzas, no pop or potato chips... my kid > would starve " .... > The truth is that those kids' bodies ARE starving- for real nutrition. > > It makes me want to cry to see what people put in their shopping carts > and feed to their kids. > > My MIL is a big fan of blogs. I told her that I should start one > called " Jody's Soap Box News " and the first entry would be able > children who are not being fed or given proper exercise and if I wrote > it well, I bet people would be up in ARMS, until they realize that > it's THEIR kids that I'm talking about. > > Kids in this country are lab rats to see what happens to a society > when children are malnourished and don't receive appropriate physical > exercise. We don't need outsiders to kill us, we are voluntarily > doing it to our own society. What will happen 20-30 years from now > when these kids hit middle age? They will be so sick... it's so sad. > > And even worse, we are exporting our ways to all of the " up and > coming " industrialized nations of the world. Mc's is > everywhere. It's crazy. > > Well, I better get off that soap box now... > LOL > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Since I got you right here Summer, I was wondering if it is a problem for our bodies to detox too fast? Is it unhealthy? I know you have posted some things in the past about detox and I have read the stuff from Elaine but, it wasn't clear weather it was dangerous to detox too fast. Can you comment on this? Thanks. Jenn L Re: Re: WAS: High Ammonia issues. now Jodyreply > To both of you and everyone, ITS TRUE! SO true! I can tell you, that one corner of a gummy bear and one, just one mcdonalds chicken nugget, caused harm for Hunter, months ago. > > My SCD views: > The thing about starving is, the kid is NOT starving! The gut bugs are starving, and causing great discomfort and cravings in the individual. Like with sugar, you crave it when it is in your diet, but when it is out, you no longer want it, it tastes sickeningly sweet. > > I just wanted to add this to the convo, my kids, Hunter since 1 year, would not eat anything but milk and non edible foods. I started cooking everything by hand, home-made, down to the gluten free breads, and expanded his and Ben's food menu a tiny bit. > > But, who is sastified with a tiny, unhealthy menu??? If it is going to be tiny, might as well be good healthy foods that don't feed gut bugs! Believe me, we have been around the block trying this diet, and that diet. SCD was the FIRST diet that incorporated everything...no grains, no sugar, no yeast, home made. > > And guess what? After the initial holding out, starving periods, both of my boys started eating more foods! Slowly, of course, I might have to introduce a texture a couple of times first. Now, they try things with relish. > > I say this because we too have been in those shoes. We feel so bad the kid is starving. Hindsight, they say is 20/20, and when I look at my boys who are starting to develop more and more normally, SPEAKING, potty trained, learning how to cook and write, blasting through all previous short comings on evaluations...we learned how to cut with scissors this year and ride bikes...yikes, isn't that worth it? It is! It is! Ben is growing! He has gone from a size 24 months at the beginning of this year to size 4T and 5T clothes this year and he just turned 5! > > Besides tests, or measures people like to do, the number one thing anyone can do to start wading to the bottom of these sensitivities, start the intro diet, and gradually add SCD approved foods back in. This will say so much, and it is all possible. What maybe some people don't understand, is, no matter the diet, starting out with a proper elimination introduction should be done, or one may never get a real feel (not test results on paper), but a real feel for food reactions. > > I keep saying this too, what seems harder at first ends up being easiest, and what seems easiest at first, ends up being hardest. This is my experience. If a diet seems hard at first, imagine how much easier life will be when things have healed some? > > For us, we jumped into digestive enzymes, which help with digestion and yeast busting. We picked a brand with good repor, and after a trial, moved onto another one, then another one, which was Houston's which we found worked so well. > > I consider SCD a blessing in our life. We do SCD, and since I suffer from inflammation, I took the anti-inflammatory diet my doctor gave me, and chose the foods that were SCD legal. We do enzymes, we have to eat all organic, and keep chemical residues down in the house, and it seems like a heck of alot of work, but it is easy. My kids are talking, potty trained, painful anal cysts have been in complete remission for over a year, less overall yeast flares and rashes, less problems with ammonia (Ben can't have too much protein, weak kidney function), management for both my kids hypoglycemia and my own, better absorption of fatty acids, more routine poops, cured whatever diarhea problem no doctor could figure out, Ben had constant diarhea since 8 months old, and this is all just the tip of the iceberg. > > Now, I save money for not having to buy large diapers, and quick fixes for other mysterious problems. We are not completely healed, it is not realistic to expect healing to occur rapidly, for problems that have gone on for years. Just makes sense. > > So, all I know, these kids bodies, my own body, absolutely starving! Starving, starving, it is a sick and diseased state. Sometimes, all it takes is bearing down, absolutely no illegals for 6 months, do a proper elimination diet and reintroduction of foods, slowly, one food at a time, and my own opinion, start looking into digestive enzymes. They are safe, and even if they do not work for someone, they don't know until they try, and different enzymes work for different people. It's too late in this part of the game to try anything sort of, and expect it to work. > > The food thing does get better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, there seems to be correlative evidence at this point, that children with digestive problems, autism, adhd and other cases of metabolic dysfunction are more likely to have offspring with similar or even worse problems. Healing todays young ones is going to make a greater impact in the future of society, beyond them. That is my own opinion. I am inspired that many native tribes think of the future, the generations that come later, in the decisions of today. > > LOL I kind of went off on my own opinion there, nevertheless, holding fast to SCD, theres alot to be learned from it. Say someone wants to leave the SCDiet. They should only do so if they understand why it has not worked, the root of it. Then they will know where to move next, if there is a next. Applying that strategy to any diet will make it more successful. > > No one needs MSG. No one needs bht, bha, annatto, no one needs sugar, no one needs to consume food their body cannot digest and use, no one with pathogenic gut flora or explosive populations of yeast do, thats for sure. The answers may be different for everyone, but some of the techniques to get there are the same. > > I admire all the time you devote to this site, Jody, and all the other wonderful moderators, Carol, Sheila, all the great posters, , Dana and so many others I have learned heap loads from. This site is golden, SCD is golden. We don't need all this junk in our diet to flavor and color old foods!!!!!! My wish for the NEW YEAR is health and healthy food for all people, everywhere! > > SCD rocks! > > Summer > > > " Jody G. " momtobandj@...> wrote: > , > > You are right. > Most people when they hear " no convenience foods " they think > starvation diet...LOL. > " No Mc's, no frozen pizzas, no pop or potato chips... my kid > would starve " .... > The truth is that those kids' bodies ARE starving- for real nutrition. > > It makes me want to cry to see what people put in their shopping carts > and feed to their kids. > > My MIL is a big fan of blogs. I told her that I should start one > called " Jody's Soap Box News " and the first entry would be able > children who are not being fed or given proper exercise and if I wrote > it well, I bet people would be up in ARMS, until they realize that > it's THEIR kids that I'm talking about. > > Kids in this country are lab rats to see what happens to a society > when children are malnourished and don't receive appropriate physical > exercise. We don't need outsiders to kill us, we are voluntarily > doing it to our own society. What will happen 20-30 years from now > when these kids hit middle age? They will be so sick... it's so sad. > > And even worse, we are exporting our ways to all of the " up and > coming " industrialized nations of the world. Mc's is > everywhere. It's crazy. > > Well, I better get off that soap box now... > LOL > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Since I got you right here Summer, I was wondering if it is a problem for our bodies to detox too fast? Is it unhealthy? I know you have posted some things in the past about detox and I have read the stuff from Elaine but, it wasn't clear weather it was dangerous to detox too fast. Can you comment on this? Thanks. Jenn L Re: Re: WAS: High Ammonia issues. now Jodyreply > To both of you and everyone, ITS TRUE! SO true! I can tell you, that one corner of a gummy bear and one, just one mcdonalds chicken nugget, caused harm for Hunter, months ago. > > My SCD views: > The thing about starving is, the kid is NOT starving! The gut bugs are starving, and causing great discomfort and cravings in the individual. Like with sugar, you crave it when it is in your diet, but when it is out, you no longer want it, it tastes sickeningly sweet. > > I just wanted to add this to the convo, my kids, Hunter since 1 year, would not eat anything but milk and non edible foods. I started cooking everything by hand, home-made, down to the gluten free breads, and expanded his and Ben's food menu a tiny bit. > > But, who is sastified with a tiny, unhealthy menu??? If it is going to be tiny, might as well be good healthy foods that don't feed gut bugs! Believe me, we have been around the block trying this diet, and that diet. SCD was the FIRST diet that incorporated everything...no grains, no sugar, no yeast, home made. > > And guess what? After the initial holding out, starving periods, both of my boys started eating more foods! Slowly, of course, I might have to introduce a texture a couple of times first. Now, they try things with relish. > > I say this because we too have been in those shoes. We feel so bad the kid is starving. Hindsight, they say is 20/20, and when I look at my boys who are starting to develop more and more normally, SPEAKING, potty trained, learning how to cook and write, blasting through all previous short comings on evaluations...we learned how to cut with scissors this year and ride bikes...yikes, isn't that worth it? It is! It is! Ben is growing! He has gone from a size 24 months at the beginning of this year to size 4T and 5T clothes this year and he just turned 5! > > Besides tests, or measures people like to do, the number one thing anyone can do to start wading to the bottom of these sensitivities, start the intro diet, and gradually add SCD approved foods back in. This will say so much, and it is all possible. What maybe some people don't understand, is, no matter the diet, starting out with a proper elimination introduction should be done, or one may never get a real feel (not test results on paper), but a real feel for food reactions. > > I keep saying this too, what seems harder at first ends up being easiest, and what seems easiest at first, ends up being hardest. This is my experience. If a diet seems hard at first, imagine how much easier life will be when things have healed some? > > For us, we jumped into digestive enzymes, which help with digestion and yeast busting. We picked a brand with good repor, and after a trial, moved onto another one, then another one, which was Houston's which we found worked so well. > > I consider SCD a blessing in our life. We do SCD, and since I suffer from inflammation, I took the anti-inflammatory diet my doctor gave me, and chose the foods that were SCD legal. We do enzymes, we have to eat all organic, and keep chemical residues down in the house, and it seems like a heck of alot of work, but it is easy. My kids are talking, potty trained, painful anal cysts have been in complete remission for over a year, less overall yeast flares and rashes, less problems with ammonia (Ben can't have too much protein, weak kidney function), management for both my kids hypoglycemia and my own, better absorption of fatty acids, more routine poops, cured whatever diarhea problem no doctor could figure out, Ben had constant diarhea since 8 months old, and this is all just the tip of the iceberg. > > Now, I save money for not having to buy large diapers, and quick fixes for other mysterious problems. We are not completely healed, it is not realistic to expect healing to occur rapidly, for problems that have gone on for years. Just makes sense. > > So, all I know, these kids bodies, my own body, absolutely starving! Starving, starving, it is a sick and diseased state. Sometimes, all it takes is bearing down, absolutely no illegals for 6 months, do a proper elimination diet and reintroduction of foods, slowly, one food at a time, and my own opinion, start looking into digestive enzymes. They are safe, and even if they do not work for someone, they don't know until they try, and different enzymes work for different people. It's too late in this part of the game to try anything sort of, and expect it to work. > > The food thing does get better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, there seems to be correlative evidence at this point, that children with digestive problems, autism, adhd and other cases of metabolic dysfunction are more likely to have offspring with similar or even worse problems. Healing todays young ones is going to make a greater impact in the future of society, beyond them. That is my own opinion. I am inspired that many native tribes think of the future, the generations that come later, in the decisions of today. > > LOL I kind of went off on my own opinion there, nevertheless, holding fast to SCD, theres alot to be learned from it. Say someone wants to leave the SCDiet. They should only do so if they understand why it has not worked, the root of it. Then they will know where to move next, if there is a next. Applying that strategy to any diet will make it more successful. > > No one needs MSG. No one needs bht, bha, annatto, no one needs sugar, no one needs to consume food their body cannot digest and use, no one with pathogenic gut flora or explosive populations of yeast do, thats for sure. The answers may be different for everyone, but some of the techniques to get there are the same. > > I admire all the time you devote to this site, Jody, and all the other wonderful moderators, Carol, Sheila, all the great posters, , Dana and so many others I have learned heap loads from. This site is golden, SCD is golden. We don't need all this junk in our diet to flavor and color old foods!!!!!! My wish for the NEW YEAR is health and healthy food for all people, everywhere! > > SCD rocks! > > Summer > > > " Jody G. " momtobandj@...> wrote: > , > > You are right. > Most people when they hear " no convenience foods " they think > starvation diet...LOL. > " No Mc's, no frozen pizzas, no pop or potato chips... my kid > would starve " .... > The truth is that those kids' bodies ARE starving- for real nutrition. > > It makes me want to cry to see what people put in their shopping carts > and feed to their kids. > > My MIL is a big fan of blogs. I told her that I should start one > called " Jody's Soap Box News " and the first entry would be able > children who are not being fed or given proper exercise and if I wrote > it well, I bet people would be up in ARMS, until they realize that > it's THEIR kids that I'm talking about. > > Kids in this country are lab rats to see what happens to a society > when children are malnourished and don't receive appropriate physical > exercise. We don't need outsiders to kill us, we are voluntarily > doing it to our own society. What will happen 20-30 years from now > when these kids hit middle age? They will be so sick... it's so sad. > > And even worse, we are exporting our ways to all of the " up and > coming " industrialized nations of the world. Mc's is > everywhere. It's crazy. > > Well, I better get off that soap box now... > LOL > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Yes. Thanks. I do need to keep my head on straight. I am dealing with a lot right now. K is far from healthy even after the last 7 months we have spent here. They are all medical issues we have been dealing with and I just can't be too careful. She has been vomiting since yesterday afternoon, not wanting to drink or eat anything. I thought she could be detoxing too fast or maybe it's just a passing bug. Thanks for being the one to put me back in line Carol:) I am just really worried about my sick angel. Thanks. I really don't mean to be such a pain in the fanny! Jenn & Kali 7 months scd Re: Re: WAS: High Ammonia issues. now Jodyreply > > Jen, I know how difficult this all can be but you are stressing over too many things. > > Carol F. > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Summer, I'm curious as to what the anti-inflammatory diet your dr. perscriped has on it > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Re: WAS: High Ammonia issues. now Jodyreply >Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:33:01 -0800 (PST) > >To both of you and everyone, ITS TRUE! SO true! I can tell you, that one >corner of a gummy bear and one, just one mcdonalds chicken nugget, caused >harm for Hunter, months ago. > > My SCD views: > The thing about starving is, the kid is NOT starving! The gut bugs are >starving, and causing great discomfort and cravings in the individual. Like >with sugar, you crave it when it is in your diet, but when it is out, you >no longer want it, it tastes sickeningly sweet. > > I just wanted to add this to the convo, my kids, Hunter since 1 year, >would not eat anything but milk and non edible foods. I started cooking >everything by hand, home-made, down to the gluten free breads, and expanded >his and Ben's food menu a tiny bit. > > But, who is sastified with a tiny, unhealthy menu??? If it is going to >be tiny, might as well be good healthy foods that don't feed gut bugs! >Believe me, we have been around the block trying this diet, and that diet. >SCD was the FIRST diet that incorporated everything...no grains, no sugar, >no yeast, home made. > > And guess what? After the initial holding out, starving periods, both of >my boys started eating more foods! Slowly, of course, I might have to >introduce a texture a couple of times first. Now, they try things with >relish. > > I say this because we too have been in those shoes. We feel so bad the >kid is starving. Hindsight, they say is 20/20, and when I look at my boys >who are starting to develop more and more normally, SPEAKING, potty >trained, learning how to cook and write, blasting through all previous >short comings on evaluations...we learned how to cut with scissors this >year and ride bikes...yikes, isn't that worth it? It is! It is! Ben is >growing! He has gone from a size 24 months at the beginning of this year to >size 4T and 5T clothes this year and he just turned 5! > > Besides tests, or measures people like to do, the number one thing >anyone can do to start wading to the bottom of these sensitivities, start >the intro diet, and gradually add SCD approved foods back in. This will say >so much, and it is all possible. What maybe some people don't understand, >is, no matter the diet, starting out with a proper elimination introduction >should be done, or one may never get a real feel (not test results on >paper), but a real feel for food reactions. > > I keep saying this too, what seems harder at first ends up being >easiest, and what seems easiest at first, ends up being hardest. This is my >experience. If a diet seems hard at first, imagine how much easier life >will be when things have healed some? > > For us, we jumped into digestive enzymes, which help with digestion and >yeast busting. We picked a brand with good repor, and after a trial, moved >onto another one, then another one, which was Houston's which we found >worked so well. > > I consider SCD a blessing in our life. We do SCD, and since I suffer >from inflammation, I took the anti-inflammatory diet my doctor gave me, and >chose the foods that were SCD legal. We do enzymes, we have to eat all >organic, and keep chemical residues down in the house, and it seems like a >heck of alot of work, but it is easy. My kids are talking, potty trained, >painful anal cysts have been in complete remission for over a year, less >overall yeast flares and rashes, less problems with ammonia (Ben can't have >too much protein, weak kidney function), management for both my kids >hypoglycemia and my own, better absorption of fatty acids, more routine >poops, cured whatever diarhea problem no doctor could figure out, Ben had >constant diarhea since 8 months old, and this is all just the tip of the >iceberg. > > Now, I save money for not having to buy large diapers, and quick fixes >for other mysterious problems. We are not completely healed, it is not >realistic to expect healing to occur rapidly, for problems that have gone >on for years. Just makes sense. > > So, all I know, these kids bodies, my own body, absolutely starving! >Starving, starving, it is a sick and diseased state. Sometimes, all it >takes is bearing down, absolutely no illegals for 6 months, do a proper >elimination diet and reintroduction of foods, slowly, one food at a time, >and my own opinion, start looking into digestive enzymes. They are safe, >and even if they do not work for someone, they don't know until they try, >and different enzymes work for different people. It's too late in this part >of the game to try anything sort of, and expect it to work. > > The food thing does get better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, there seems >to be correlative evidence at this point, that children with digestive >problems, autism, adhd and other cases of metabolic dysfunction are more >likely to have offspring with similar or even worse problems. Healing >todays young ones is going to make a greater impact in the future of >society, beyond them. That is my own opinion. I am inspired that many >native tribes think of the future, the generations that come later, in the >decisions of today. > > LOL I kind of went off on my own opinion there, nevertheless, holding >fast to SCD, theres alot to be learned from it. Say someone wants to leave >the SCDiet. They should only do so if they understand why it has not >worked, the root of it. Then they will know where to move next, if there is >a next. Applying that strategy to any diet will make it more successful. > > No one needs MSG. No one needs bht, bha, annatto, no one needs sugar, no >one needs to consume food their body cannot digest and use, no one with >pathogenic gut flora or explosive populations of yeast do, thats for sure. >The answers may be different for everyone, but some of the techniques to >get there are the same. > > I admire all the time you devote to this site, Jody, and all the other >wonderful moderators, Carol, Sheila, all the great posters, , Dana >and so many others I have learned heap loads from. This site is golden, SCD >is golden. We don't need all this junk in our diet to flavor and color old >foods!!!!!! My wish for the NEW YEAR is health and healthy food for all >people, everywhere! > > SCD rocks! > > Summer > > > " Jody G. " momtobandj@...> wrote: > , > >You are right. >Most people when they hear " no convenience foods " they think >starvation diet...LOL. > " No Mc's, no frozen pizzas, no pop or potato chips... my kid >would starve " .... >The truth is that those kids' bodies ARE starving- for real nutrition. > >It makes me want to cry to see what people put in their shopping carts >and feed to their kids. > >My MIL is a big fan of blogs. I told her that I should start one >called " Jody's Soap Box News " and the first entry would be able >children who are not being fed or given proper exercise and if I wrote >it well, I bet people would be up in ARMS, until they realize that >it's THEIR kids that I'm talking about. > >Kids in this country are lab rats to see what happens to a society >when children are malnourished and don't receive appropriate physical >exercise. We don't need outsiders to kill us, we are voluntarily >doing it to our own society. What will happen 20-30 years from now >when these kids hit middle age? They will be so sick... it's so sad. > >And even worse, we are exporting our ways to all of the " up and >coming " industrialized nations of the world. Mc's is >everywhere. It's crazy. > >Well, I better get off that soap box now... >LOL > >Happy New Year to everyone! > >Jody >mom to -7 and -9 >SCD 1/03 > > > > > > >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following >websites: >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >and >http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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