Pain

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Tracey,

I have had a baby, but not cesarean.. what I hear its similar but I

was told once you get home from the hospital, that you really dont

need any pain meds.. since I cant speak from personal experience, you

will probably hear other opinions.. I too am a baby when it comes to

pain, but I feel confident that you will be kept comfortable.

> Hey Everyone

> Just a really stupid question. I have had a caeserarian (sp?) and

was

> wondering if any of you gals out there that had had a caeser felt

that the

> pain of the this was worse or better than have BPD/DS lap? I have

a mega

> low pain threshold and am such a cry baby.

>

> Smiles Tracey

>

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Tracey,

I have had a baby, but not cesarean.. what I hear its similar but I

was told once you get home from the hospital, that you really dont

need any pain meds.. since I cant speak from personal experience, you

will probably hear other opinions.. I too am a baby when it comes to

pain, but I feel confident that you will be kept comfortable.

> Hey Everyone

> Just a really stupid question. I have had a caeserarian (sp?) and

was

> wondering if any of you gals out there that had had a caeser felt

that the

> pain of the this was worse or better than have BPD/DS lap? I have

a mega

> low pain threshold and am such a cry baby.

>

> Smiles Tracey

>

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Tracey,

I have had a baby, but not cesarean.. what I hear its similar but I

was told once you get home from the hospital, that you really dont

need any pain meds.. since I cant speak from personal experience, you

will probably hear other opinions.. I too am a baby when it comes to

pain, but I feel confident that you will be kept comfortable.

> Hey Everyone

> Just a really stupid question. I have had a caeserarian (sp?) and

was

> wondering if any of you gals out there that had had a caeser felt

that the

> pain of the this was worse or better than have BPD/DS lap? I have

a mega

> low pain threshold and am such a cry baby.

>

> Smiles Tracey

>

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Tracey,

I had a C-section and a Lap LG/DS. The C-Section was after 24 hours

of labor and the vaginal birth of the first twin. I really feel that

the c-section was worse than my DS surgery. With the c-section I was

in the hospital Mon-Fri and then took pain meds a full week after

discharge. Also w/ the C you have a new baby (or two) to take care of

so you never really get to just relax and recover. With my lap DS I

was in the hospital 2 days and stopped taking pain meds 3 days after

discharge. The drugs they give you for the DS (morphine pump) are

MUCH BETTER than what you get for a c-section. Discuss this with your

Dr and let him/her know how nervous you are about it. Good Luck!

Lap LG/DS 1/23/01 Dr

268 BMI 42

204 BMI 32

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Tracey Owen " wrote:

> Hey Everyone

> Just a really stupid question. I have had a caeserarian (sp?) and

was

> wondering if any of you gals out there that had had a caeser felt

that the

> pain of the this was worse or better than have BPD/DS lap? I have

a mega

> low pain threshold and am such a cry baby.

>

> Smiles Tracey

>

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Tracey,

I had a C-section and a Lap LG/DS. The C-Section was after 24 hours

of labor and the vaginal birth of the first twin. I really feel that

the c-section was worse than my DS surgery. With the c-section I was

in the hospital Mon-Fri and then took pain meds a full week after

discharge. Also w/ the C you have a new baby (or two) to take care of

so you never really get to just relax and recover. With my lap DS I

was in the hospital 2 days and stopped taking pain meds 3 days after

discharge. The drugs they give you for the DS (morphine pump) are

MUCH BETTER than what you get for a c-section. Discuss this with your

Dr and let him/her know how nervous you are about it. Good Luck!

Lap LG/DS 1/23/01 Dr

268 BMI 42

204 BMI 32

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Tracey Owen " wrote:

> Hey Everyone

> Just a really stupid question. I have had a caeserarian (sp?) and

was

> wondering if any of you gals out there that had had a caeser felt

that the

> pain of the this was worse or better than have BPD/DS lap? I have

a mega

> low pain threshold and am such a cry baby.

>

> Smiles Tracey

>

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I have a low threshold for pain too. I have not had a

cesarean. But I did have laparascopic BPD/DS afew

weeks ago. In the hospital, the pain was managed by

meds. i can barely remember pain now. it was hard

getting out of bed, but not really painful. After i

was taken off the morphine i did the percoset every 4

hours, which is what's allowed. i had to have it first

thing in the AM too. make sure they give you some

applesauce with it or you may get sick. My second and

third day home were the most painful. i was warned I

would be in more pain once home. you are moving around

a lot. I was still doing the percoset every 4 hours

for those days. then i just took them at night and in

the morning for 2 days. My back was killing me, so i

took advil for that. that pain was HORRIBLE! i couldnt

get comfy. but advil helped a lot! To be perfectly

honest, the pain was worse than i thought. It is

manageable with meds though. I still have pain and i

am 25 days post op, but nothing i need meds for. My

main problem is the waistband of pants hitting into

the incisions. Oh, also, i could not wear a bra for 1

1/2 weeks post op. PAIN, PRESSURE.

But, it's all worth it. I swear!!!! life is so much

better now. i am down 30 lbs and it make such a huge

difference to my quality of life! I went walking all

over NY city yesterday. before i could barely walk

down the hall.

Take care.

Jill k in NY

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[Guest guest]

I have a low threshold for pain too. I have not had a

cesarean. But I did have laparascopic BPD/DS afew

weeks ago. In the hospital, the pain was managed by

meds. i can barely remember pain now. it was hard

getting out of bed, but not really painful. After i

was taken off the morphine i did the percoset every 4

hours, which is what's allowed. i had to have it first

thing in the AM too. make sure they give you some

applesauce with it or you may get sick. My second and

third day home were the most painful. i was warned I

would be in more pain once home. you are moving around

a lot. I was still doing the percoset every 4 hours

for those days. then i just took them at night and in

the morning for 2 days. My back was killing me, so i

took advil for that. that pain was HORRIBLE! i couldnt

get comfy. but advil helped a lot! To be perfectly

honest, the pain was worse than i thought. It is

manageable with meds though. I still have pain and i

am 25 days post op, but nothing i need meds for. My

main problem is the waistband of pants hitting into

the incisions. Oh, also, i could not wear a bra for 1

1/2 weeks post op. PAIN, PRESSURE.

But, it's all worth it. I swear!!!! life is so much

better now. i am down 30 lbs and it make such a huge

difference to my quality of life! I went walking all

over NY city yesterday. before i could barely walk

down the hall.

Take care.

Jill k in NY

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I have a low threshold for pain too. I have not had a

cesarean. But I did have laparascopic BPD/DS afew

weeks ago. In the hospital, the pain was managed by

meds. i can barely remember pain now. it was hard

getting out of bed, but not really painful. After i

was taken off the morphine i did the percoset every 4

hours, which is what's allowed. i had to have it first

thing in the AM too. make sure they give you some

applesauce with it or you may get sick. My second and

third day home were the most painful. i was warned I

would be in more pain once home. you are moving around

a lot. I was still doing the percoset every 4 hours

for those days. then i just took them at night and in

the morning for 2 days. My back was killing me, so i

took advil for that. that pain was HORRIBLE! i couldnt

get comfy. but advil helped a lot! To be perfectly

honest, the pain was worse than i thought. It is

manageable with meds though. I still have pain and i

am 25 days post op, but nothing i need meds for. My

main problem is the waistband of pants hitting into

the incisions. Oh, also, i could not wear a bra for 1

1/2 weeks post op. PAIN, PRESSURE.

But, it's all worth it. I swear!!!! life is so much

better now. i am down 30 lbs and it make such a huge

difference to my quality of life! I went walking all

over NY city yesterday. before i could barely walk

down the hall.

Take care.

Jill k in NY

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[Guest guest]

Tracey:

First, everyone is different. No one person's experience will necessarily be yours. Obviously I haven't had a C-section. But my wife has. I just asked her. She says that very short term the DS was less painful because she had an epidural. But when they took the epidural out they didn't manage the pain very well and things went downhill VERY fast. So intermediate and long term the DS hurt her worse. But not so badly that she is sorry she did it. Also, there seems to be a natural process which tends to make women forget about the pain involved in childbirth. I don't know if that applies to a C-section or not, but it certainly doesn't apply to a DS.

Hope that helps.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 246http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Pain

> Hey Everyone> Just a really stupid question. I have had a caeserarian (sp?) and was > wondering if any of you gals out there that had had a caeser felt that the > pain of the this was worse or better than have BPD/DS lap? I have a mega > low pain threshold and am such a cry baby.> > Smiles Tracey> _________________________________________________________________________> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------->

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Tracey:

First, everyone is different. No one person's experience will necessarily be yours. Obviously I haven't had a C-section. But my wife has. I just asked her. She says that very short term the DS was less painful because she had an epidural. But when they took the epidural out they didn't manage the pain very well and things went downhill VERY fast. So intermediate and long term the DS hurt her worse. But not so badly that she is sorry she did it. Also, there seems to be a natural process which tends to make women forget about the pain involved in childbirth. I don't know if that applies to a C-section or not, but it certainly doesn't apply to a DS.

Hope that helps.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 246http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Pain

> Hey Everyone> Just a really stupid question. I have had a caeserarian (sp?) and was > wondering if any of you gals out there that had had a caeser felt that the > pain of the this was worse or better than have BPD/DS lap? I have a mega > low pain threshold and am such a cry baby.> > Smiles Tracey> _________________________________________________________________________> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------->

[Guest guest]

Tracey:

First, everyone is different. No one person's experience will necessarily be yours. Obviously I haven't had a C-section. But my wife has. I just asked her. She says that very short term the DS was less painful because she had an epidural. But when they took the epidural out they didn't manage the pain very well and things went downhill VERY fast. So intermediate and long term the DS hurt her worse. But not so badly that she is sorry she did it. Also, there seems to be a natural process which tends to make women forget about the pain involved in childbirth. I don't know if that applies to a C-section or not, but it certainly doesn't apply to a DS.

Hope that helps.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 246http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Pain

> Hey Everyone> Just a really stupid question. I have had a caeserarian (sp?) and was > wondering if any of you gals out there that had had a caeser felt that the > pain of the this was worse or better than have BPD/DS lap? I have a mega > low pain threshold and am such a cry baby.> > Smiles Tracey> _________________________________________________________________________> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------->

[Guest guest]

Cass, Hi,hope your doing well. In my case I have severe scarring, one area

is about the size of a golfball and pushing in the direction of my duodenum.

As a result my duodenum is obstructed 80%. I'm sure it adds to the pain.

Tim

>

>Reply-To: pancreatitis

>To: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo

>Subject: Pain

>Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:39:19 -0000

>

>I've often wondered if the flare-ups affect other organs as well

>causing undetermined center of pain. It is so close to the liver

>etc, and wonder if swelling could cause pressure in areas adjacent to

>the pancreas. Mine is usually left side and under the rib cage as

>well as center upper abdomin. But my cancer is in the tail. I've

>been told that is usually where it starts. Heating pad does seem to

>offer some calming to the area. My best to you and fast relief.

>Cass

>

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[Guest guest]

Cass, Hi,hope your doing well. In my case I have severe scarring, one area

is about the size of a golfball and pushing in the direction of my duodenum.

As a result my duodenum is obstructed 80%. I'm sure it adds to the pain.

Tim

>

>Reply-To: pancreatitis

>To: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo

>Subject: Pain

>Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:39:19 -0000

>

>I've often wondered if the flare-ups affect other organs as well

>causing undetermined center of pain. It is so close to the liver

>etc, and wonder if swelling could cause pressure in areas adjacent to

>the pancreas. Mine is usually left side and under the rib cage as

>well as center upper abdomin. But my cancer is in the tail. I've

>been told that is usually where it starts. Heating pad does seem to

>offer some calming to the area. My best to you and fast relief.

>Cass

>

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Cass-

My pain is in the same place as your pain and the

fibrosis and damage to my pancreas is in the tail of

my pancreatitis. This was discovered at the Mayo. At

the Mayo they also discovered that I have

steatohepatitis (fatty liver) which they said was

caused from the pancreatitis.

Crystal Galloway

--- casshere2001 casshere2001@...> wrote:

> I've often wondered if the flare-ups affect other

> organs as well

> causing undetermined center of pain. It is so close

> to the liver

> etc, and wonder if swelling could cause pressure in

> areas adjacent to

> the pancreas. Mine is usually left side and under

> the rib cage as

> well as center upper abdomin. But my cancer is in

> the tail. I've

> been told that is usually where it starts. Heating

> pad does seem to

> offer some calming to the area. My best to you and

> fast relief.

> Cass

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Cass-

My pain is in the same place as your pain and the

fibrosis and damage to my pancreas is in the tail of

my pancreatitis. This was discovered at the Mayo. At

the Mayo they also discovered that I have

steatohepatitis (fatty liver) which they said was

caused from the pancreatitis.

Crystal Galloway

--- casshere2001 casshere2001@...> wrote:

> I've often wondered if the flare-ups affect other

> organs as well

> causing undetermined center of pain. It is so close

> to the liver

> etc, and wonder if swelling could cause pressure in

> areas adjacent to

> the pancreas. Mine is usually left side and under

> the rib cage as

> well as center upper abdomin. But my cancer is in

> the tail. I've

> been told that is usually where it starts. Heating

> pad does seem to

> offer some calming to the area. My best to you and

> fast relief.

> Cass

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Cass-

My pain is in the same place as your pain and the

fibrosis and damage to my pancreas is in the tail of

my pancreatitis. This was discovered at the Mayo. At

the Mayo they also discovered that I have

steatohepatitis (fatty liver) which they said was

caused from the pancreatitis.

Crystal Galloway

--- casshere2001 casshere2001@...> wrote:

> I've often wondered if the flare-ups affect other

> organs as well

> causing undetermined center of pain. It is so close

> to the liver

> etc, and wonder if swelling could cause pressure in

> areas adjacent to

> the pancreas. Mine is usually left side and under

> the rib cage as

> well as center upper abdomin. But my cancer is in

> the tail. I've

> been told that is usually where it starts. Heating

> pad does seem to

> offer some calming to the area. My best to you and

> fast relief.

> Cass

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Cass-

My pain is in the same place as your pain and the

fibrosis and damage to my pancreas is in the tail of

my pancreatitis. This was discovered at the Mayo. At

the Mayo they also discovered that I have

steatohepatitis (fatty liver) which they said was

caused from the pancreatitis.

Crystal Galloway

--- casshere2001 casshere2001@...> wrote:

> I've often wondered if the flare-ups affect other

> organs as well

> causing undetermined center of pain. It is so close

> to the liver

> etc, and wonder if swelling could cause pressure in

> areas adjacent to

> the pancreas. Mine is usually left side and under

> the rib cage as

> well as center upper abdomin. But my cancer is in

> the tail. I've

> been told that is usually where it starts. Heating

> pad does seem to

> offer some calming to the area. My best to you and

> fast relief.

> Cass

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Has anybody used the Duragesic patch for there pain? How did it work

for you?

Thank you

Bruce

[Guest guest]

Bruce,

I have never used the patch but I know I have seen posts here about them, just

keep looking here someone will post about it.

{{{HUGZ}}}

dustyslilsparky wrote:Has anybody used the Duragesic patch for there pain? How

did it work

for you?

Thank you

Bruce

[Guest guest]

I use the 50 mg patch. I change it every 72 hours. I like it but after about 3

months or so the effect begins to wear off and you will need to up the dosage.

Any questions, just email me. Thanks.

Pain

Has anybody used the Duragesic patch for there pain? How did it work

for you?

Thank you

Bruce

[Guest guest]

-Hi Bruce,

The Dr's tried the duragesic patch when I was in the hospital but

it didn't work for me. Also I broke out from it so they finally

discontinued it's use.

-- In pancreatitis@y..., " dustyslilsparky "

wrote:

> Has anybody used the Duragesic patch for there pain? How did it

work

> for you?

> Thank you

> Bruce

[Guest guest]

Bruce,

I use duragesic patches. I also have loritab and oxy

for breakthrough pain. The duragesic patch is

wonderful. The pain doesn't get out of control just

because you fall asleep. You have a continuous dose of

medication being absorbed through the skin.

Crystal Galloway

--- dustyslilsparky dustyslilsparky@...> wrote:

> Has anybody used the Duragesic patch for there

> pain? How did it work

> for you?

> Thank you

> Bruce

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My gut symptoms actually got some better almost immediately. I'm

talking about body pain, spinal is the worst, some headaches, and it

seems to be making more arthritic type pain as well. Sort of

everything is worse in the pain department except gut pain. I think your

idea of gut bacteria shifting makes a lot of sense.

I am not sure what you mean.. but my pain increased dramatically when

I first dropped grains and then it was the first thing to go away.. I was

dealing with excruciating bowel and anal pain.

Are you talking about gut pain or like body pain?

Many things can be attributed to die off. I like the idea of a more

global view that the gut ecology is shifting. Yes, bacteria is dying but

there are also bacteria repopulating and many are shifting.. Than there

is the issue of biofilms that we need to get rid of. I think some of us

that deal with hard core stubborn yeast are dealing with a biofilm issue.

The housing structures that the yeast live in.. actually live on post

die-off. Those <insert expletive here> don't wanna die.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Dearest One ,

I know what you mean. I am 79 yrs this year and I have had upper and lower back pain, knee and neck pain. I have a massage every month to help relive the pain. Acupuncture it good too.

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To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:14:29 PMSubject: Re: Pain

My gut symptoms actually got some better almost immediately. I'm talking about body pain, spinal is the worst, some headaches, and it seems to be making more arthritic type pain as well. Sort of everything is worse in the pain department except gut pain. I think your idea of gut bacteria shifting makes a lot of sense.

I am not sure what you mean.. but my pain increased dramatically when I first dropped grains and then it was the first thing to go away.. I was dealing with excruciating bowel and anal pain.

Are you talking about gut pain or like body pain?

Many things can be attributed to die off. I like the idea of a more global view that the gut ecology is shifting. Yes, bacteria is dying but there are also bacteria repopulating and many are shifting.. Than there is the issue of biofilms that we need to get rid of. I think some of us that deal with hard core stubborn yeast are dealing with a biofilm issue. The housing structures that the yeast live in.. actually live on post die-off. Those <insert expletive here> don't wanna die.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Dearest One ,

I know what you mean. I am 79 yrs this year and I have had upper and lower back pain, knee and neck pain. I have a massage every month to help relive the pain. Acupuncture it good too.

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http://breakingtheviciouscycle.com/associatedconditions/associatedconditionstoc.html Arthritic Conditionshttp://breakingtheviciouscycle.com/associatedconditions/associatedconditions/arthriticconditions.html

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long on the SCDiet.

Put in Subject: SCD or I may not see your post to me.

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:14:29 PMSubject: Re: Pain

My gut symptoms actually got some better almost immediately. I'm talking about body pain, spinal is the worst, some headaches, and it seems to be making more arthritic type pain as well. Sort of everything is worse in the pain department except gut pain. I think your idea of gut bacteria shifting makes a lot of sense.

I am not sure what you mean.. but my pain increased dramatically when I first dropped grains and then it was the first thing to go away.. I was dealing with excruciating bowel and anal pain.

Are you talking about gut pain or like body pain?

Many things can be attributed to die off. I like the idea of a more global view that the gut ecology is shifting. Yes, bacteria is dying but there are also bacteria repopulating and many are shifting.. Than there is the issue of biofilms that we need to get rid of. I think some of us that deal with hard core stubborn yeast are dealing with a biofilm issue. The housing structures that the yeast live in.. actually live on post die-off. Those <insert expletive here> don't wanna die.

Jodi