Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 --I'm having problems right now but if I ever have that taken care of or if it ever goes away I'm intrested in fat transfer for the breast....I have had 4 surgeies on my breast and one of them made my right smalled than my left due to scar tissue removed I'd love to have them made even....can you tell me about fat transfer ?- In , " Erwin T. Tan, MD " <docbry@...> wrote: > > GG, believe me, I am a cosmetic surgeon and I have never encountered all of these substance as composing the silicone implants. During conventions, the only thing being discussed are the advantages and disadvantages of textured implants from smooth, or when to use a high or low profile, etc. > We are not taught about the composition, all that is said is that they have been approved by the FDA or from where they were made. > I am actually glad I have been a part of the group, it was only here that I have learned about the components, and thank God I don't use saline / silicone implants, I just removed them, and should patients want breast augmentation, I explain to them fat transplant / graft, which is my subspecialty. > Boy, I sure am glad I have enough open mind to accept the fact that the silicone implants do cause harm. I guess part of the reason why I am able to accept it because I don't use silicone implants also for breasts, just good ol natural fat. > Most doctors would say that this is non-sense, because of pride, they wouldn't be able to look themselves in the mirror and admit that their porsche or ferrari is partly a result of causing harm to patients. So sad... > > > > From: gayle <glass3311@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Vitamin B Complex.........Doc > > Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 3:04 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are all of these substances labeled on silicone injections or implants ? and if not, why? doesnt the FDA require this?- and if so, why are they even given to patients - certainly drs. have all heard of leakage by now; and why do plastic suregons everywhere, insist there's not toxicity in 'silicone' - its inert. i get the feeling these drs really believe this. or if you appear too smart re. silicone, they try to dismiss you as a patient in one way or another. > for the first time i see a symptom (of silicone) as not enough vitreous fluid - odd, because after i had the silicone injected, i got vitreous detachment in both eyes. > i also tested hi in methyl pentane - didnt see that on the list, so dont know. considering all the other chemicals, its highly likely. > gg > > > > Re: Re: Vitamin B Complex..... ....Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Doc ~ > > > > > > For me, I had a massive silicone rupture, and now have > old salines in me, > - Wow, so you still have the implants? As I have told Sandy, a few weeks ago, I removed saline implants from an Australian patient, her left implant already ruptured a few years back. Upon opening up, we saw a lot of seroma around the implants already, we had to do total cleaning of the area and of course, did a proper capsulectomy, which we believe that it is necessary for proper healing. Without doing a capsulectomy, the body continues to attack the remaining capsule which will later form a bigger and bigger scar tissue, not to mention retaining the toxic remains of the implants. > Also have had many many diagnoses given to me in the last about 18 years, Personally I think they are all symptoms of 1 root cause...... > " Manufactured Silicone Multiple Toxicity Syndrome " > here is the list : > Migranes > Seizures > Irritable bowel > Gerds > Large hiatle hernia > osteoporosis > osteoarthritis ( both knees ) > sjogrens syndrome > arthralgia > myalgia ( deep muscle arthritis ) > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Fibromyalgia > bursitis > degenerative disc disease > with 3 bulging discs.... > Raynauds > Levito reticularis > collagen vascular disease > Lupus > chronic kidney disease > Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease > bulla, and multiple nodules in both lungs and ..... > Thyroid ( hypo) > Congestive heart failure NY stage 3 > Idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy > lattice degeneras ( eyes) > keratokonas ( misspelled, cone shaped cornias) > not enough vitreous fluid in my eyeballs > diverticulosis, moderate to severe > severe vitamin deficiency > Had early cervical cancer, and a hyst in 95.... > - Wow, quite a long list you have. > Now the brain problems I get are strange..... . > some days my word recall is almost non-existant > Some days my thought process is numb, and just doesnt > work......I might know in my head but cant process and > put on paper, or say it....... > Some days my head feels really swollen and like my fore > head is heavy and falling over my eyes, on those days > I also lean to the left. I can get up to walk somewhere > and get off balance like my head is leaning to the left. > Like I cant walk a streight line. I lean to the left cuz > my head is heavy and taking me there... > - in one of my replies I explained the MSH test significance, maybe... just maybe, to make some sense of the symptoms, what if your mucus production went haywire due to the MSH depletion from the biotoxins, then your sinuses were filled with mucus (which by the way, can happen without any runny nose), which can ensue the following symptoms: > - severe headache > - pain between the eyes > - some patients describe the pain as if its like someone is gouching their eye sockets > - imbalance > - worst case: death from infection that speads to the brain since the sinuses are just separated from the brain by a very thin bone. > Well, that's just a theory... again, as a Devil's Advocate. > > Very strange..... .A good bit of the time I am a bump on > a log....I cannot motivate at all, but that may have to do > with periods of my very low blood pressure, today it went > down to 73/50....... ...but the other night it woke me > and it was 124/114 with 101 pulse. So.....it is just a > broken heart....... ..thank heavens it is a happy one....... > days, weeks, months pass by and I didnt do anything > at all....and it is just gone....... > > Here is a partial list of chemicals they use in the silicone > for implants,On some of these, I put some parts of the info > I read in the article, for the full article, click on the link, > I also never got done looking them up.......... . > The purple comments are mine, they are questions... .. > pink is just so those comments stand out so people dont miss them > > 1)Methyl Ethyl Ketone > http://www.evol. nw.ru/~spirov/ hazard/methyl_ ethyl_ketone. html > Methyl Ethyl Ketone > 2)Cyclobexanone > 3)Isopropyl Alcohol - PERMANENT NERVE DAMAGE > 4)Denatured Alcohol - CAUSES BLINDNESS IN HIGH AMOUNTS > 5)Acetone > 6)Urethane > 7)Poly vinyl Chloride - HIGHLY CARCINOGENIC > 8)Lacquer Thinner - TOXIC > 9)Ethyl Acetate > 10)Epoxy Resin - WOW > 11)Epoxy Hardener > > 12)Amine > is actually ~ Dichlorophenoxyacet ic 2,4 > Common trade names:4-D Amine > Alkali or amine salts or esters of 2,4-D are used as herbicide sagainst broad-leaf weeds in cereal crops, as well as on pastures and lawns, > - YAYKS... > > at rates of about 0.2-2.0 kg active ingredient (acidequivalent) /ha. Esters are also used at rates of up to 6 kg (acidequivalent) /ha to suppress weeds, brush, and some trees. Granular formulations are used as aquatic herbicides at rates of 1-122 kg/ha.At very low foliar application rates (20-40 mg 2,4-D/litre spraywater), 2,4-D can be used as a growth regulator. > The results of studies on whether occupational exposure to 2,4-D may result in chromosome abnormalities are conflicting. The results of some epidemiological studies have suggested an association between exposure to phenoxy herbicides, including 2,4-D, and increased incidences of malignant tumours and tumour mortality. It is not clear,at present, whether this represents a true association, and if so,whether it is specifically related to 2,4-D. > - IF THERE'S SMOKE, THERE'S FIRE... > Human beings who work regularly with 2,4-D should undergo periodic medical examination with emphasis on the neurological status, muscular and cardiovascular system, liver and kidney functioning, and effectson skin and eyes.Supervisors and workers should be alert to symptoms of toxic exposure and know how to give first aid. > Dichlorophenoxyacet ic 2,4- (HSG 5, 1987) > http://www.inchem. org/documents/ hsg/hsg/hsg005. htm > > 13)Printing Ink > 14)Toluene > 15)Freon > 16)Silica - IRRITANT, SCAR-FORMER, CARCINOGENIC > 17)Flux > 18)Solder > ]19)Chlorplatinic Acid > 20)Metal Cleaning Acid > > 21)Formaldehyde > Formaldehyde is used as a preservative in cosmetics and in nail-hardening agents. Traces can also be found in cosmetics resulting from the disinfection of apparatus used in their manufacture. Products containing formaldehyde are used for other purposes, e.g.,antiperspirant s, skin-hardening agents, dry-skin lotion, shampoos, andbubble bath oil. > There is some natural formaldehyde in raw food, levels ranging from1 to 90 mg/kg. Accidental contamination of food may occur during fumigation.Formaldehyde is sometimes used as a preservative, or it maybe produced during cooking. > In in vitro studies, formaldehyde interfered with DNA repair in humancells,but there are no data relating to mutagenic outcomes. > Major sources of formaldehyde are automobile and aircraft exhaustemissions, tobacco smoke, natural gas, fossil fuels, waste incineration, and oil refineries. > > Formaldehyde is positive in a wide range of mutagenicity test systems invitro;results of in vivo test systems are conflicting. It has been shown to form DNA-protein cross-links in vitro and in vivo in rat nasal mucosa. In vivo, this occurred at an exposure concentration of1.1 mg/m3. Formaldehyde interferes with DNA repair in human cells in vitro.Following inhalation exposure at levels causing cell damage, asignificant incidence of squamous cell carcinomas of the nasal cavity was induced in two strains of rat. > A limited number of forestomach papillomas were reported in rats following the administration of formaldehyde in the drinking-water. In human beings, though an increased risk for a number of cancers has been reported, the causal role of formaldehyde is considered likely only for nasal and nasopharyngeal cancer. > Human exposure to formaldehyde should be controlled. > Cosmetics (creams) containing formaldehyde should be suitably labelled,giving the concentration. Levels in oral health products should bestrictly limited. > Lots of formaldehyde exposure from many resources, add an implant with > constant exposure, and ....... > Formaldehyde (HSG 57, 1991) > http://www.inchem. org/documents/ hsg/hsg/hsg057. htm > > 22)Talcum Powder - IRRITANT > 23)Color Pigmentation (Printers Ink) > 24)Oakite > 25)Cyanoacyrylates > > 26)Ethylene Oxide > > Its major use is as an intermediate in the production of variouschemicals including: the antifreeze, ethylene glycol; polyethyleneterepht halate polyester for fibres, films, and bottles; non-ionicsurface active agents; glycol ethers; ethanolamines; and choline. Asmall fraction of the total consumption (less than 1%) is used for thefumigation and sterilization of foodstuffs and medical equipment. > > Respiratory tract irritation increases with inhaled vapour concentration and may result in severe life-threatening pulmonary disease after a latency period of severalhours. Cardiovascular collapse and renal failure have been attributedto residues of ethylene oxide in medical equipment.a Case reportsand the results of animal studies indicate that sensorimotor neuropathies may follow repeated exposure to concentrations ofethylene oxide recognizable by its odour (approximately 900 mg/m3 ormore). > Anaphylactic reactions have been reported during haemodialysis, when using equipment sterilized with ethylene oxide.Dermatologica l effects in man following skin contact with aqueousethylene oxide include erythema, oedema, and vesiculation, in that order. The severity of the skin injury is related to concentration (a50% solution (500 g/litre) being most hazardous) and duration of contact. When liquid ethylene oxide vapourizes, it can result in afreeze burn. On repeated exposure, ethylene oxide may cause allergic contact dermatitis. Aqueous solutions of ethylene oxide and its conversion products are irritating to the eyes and can produce corneal injury. Ethylene oxide vapour or residues in medical equipment have also been observed to produce irritant effects on the eyes and the respiratory tract. The irritant effects on the eyes and skin are often delayed. Cataracts have occurred following repeated exposure to concentrations of the vapour > recognizable by its odour (approximately900 mg/m3). > In man, ethylene oxide may induce chromosomal aberrations and sisterchromatid exchanges in lymphocytes and micronuclei in erythroytes atair concentrations that can be found in the work place. Tissuedistribution studies have provided evidence that ethylene oxidereaches the gonads, supporting the findings of heritable mutations ininsects and rodents. Therefore, ethylene oxide may be considered apotential human mutagen for both somatic and germ cells. > Taking into account available data concerning the alkylating nature of ethylene oxide, the demonstration of DNA adducts, the overwhelming positive in vivo responses in mutagenic and clastogenic assays, the reproducible positive carcinogenic findings in animals, and the epidemiological findings suggesting an increase in the incidence > of human cancer, ethylene oxide should be considered as a probable human carcinogen, and its levels in the environment should be kept as low as feasible. > Taking into account all the available data, ethylene oxide should beconsidered as a mutagen and a probable human carcinogen. It may posea reproductive hazard. Its levels in the environment should be kept as low as possible. So, if it is to be kept low as possible, then implanting it into a human is out of the question ? ? > - EXACTLY! > > Ethylene oxide (HSG 16, 1988) > http://www.inchem. org/documents/ hsg/hsg/hsg016. htm > > 27)Carob Black > 28)Xylene > 29)Hexone > 30)Benzene - CARCINOGENIC > 31)Hexanone 2 > 32)Thixon-OSN- 2 > 33)Rubber > 34)Acid Stearic > 35)Zinc Oxide > 36)Naptha > WikiAnswers - What is naptha > Naptha is a common name for the industrial solvent Petroleum Ether. Other names include benzine, X-4, or Lingroin. Chemically, naptha is a mixture of straight chained hydrocarbon- ethers, straight chained alkanes, as well as some aromatic hydrocarbons. The actual composition of the naptha will depend on its boiling point (indicative of the distillation temperature) . Naphtha is a product of crude oil distillation in an atmospheric distillation unit. The refineries often produce a light naphta blend and a heavier naphtha which is can be used as a gasoline additive. Naptha is also extremely effective at solvating non-polar compounds and is used frequently in organic chemistry. > > 37)Phenol > > Phenol is mainly used for the manufacture of phenolic resins, bisphenol A, and caprolactam. Other products are alkylphenols, xylenol, cresol, and adipic acid. Minor uses include the production of germicidal paints, pharmaceutical products, dyes, and indicators, and the use of phenols as a laboratory reagent, a slimicide, and a general disinfectant. > Phenol is readily absorbed from any media; it is rapidly distributed to all tissues. The liver, the lung, and the gastrointestinal mucosa are the most important sites of phenol metabolism. > In vivo and in vitro studies have demonstrated covalent binding to tissue and plasma proteins. Urinary excretion is the major route of phenol disposal in animals and humans. A minor part is eliminated in the faeces and expired air. > Gastrointestinal irritation was reported following ingestion of phenol. Painless blanching, or effects ranging from erythema to corrosion and deep necrosis, occurred following dermal exposure. Main systemic effects included cardiac dysrhythmias, respiratory distress, metabolic acidosis, renal failure, dark urine, methaemoglobinaemia , neurological effects, cardiovascular shock, coma, and death. The lowest reported fatal dose was 4.8 g by ingestion; death occurred within 19 min. > - REALLY FAST > Exposure of the general population to phenol mainly occurs by inhalation. Minor oral exposure may arise through the consumption of smoked food or drinking-water. > So, the dailey exposure we get added to the implant that has a constant flow > of toxins, sounds lethal ! > - UTTERLY LETHAL > Individuals, potentially exposed to phenol, should undergo periodic medical examination with emphasis on effects on the skin, respiratory tract, central nervous system, liver, and kidneys. > Phenol (HSG 88, 1994) > http://www.inchem. org/documents/ hsg/hsg/hsg88_ e.htm > > 38)Methylene Chloride > > Methylene chloride is widely used as a solvent and paint remover. It is also used as a blowing agent for polyurethane, as a propellant in aerosols such as insecticides, hair sprays, shampoos, and paints, as acomponent in fire-extinguishing products, as an insecticidal fumigant for grains, and as a coolant or refrigerant. > Absorption of liquid methylene chloride via the skin is slow.Methylene chloride is rapidly absorbed via the gastrointestinal tract and crosses the placenta and blood-brain barrier. > Methylene chloride is mutagenic in bacteria, fungi, and in the fruitfly. However, the results of most tests on mammalian somatic cells,including human cells, have been negative. So, what about one with a systemic fungal or bacterial infection ? ? > is it mutagenic then ? ? - I REALLY DON'T KNOW, SORRY. > Methylene chloride can react with iron, so does this mean it also > reacts with human blood ? ? Just a thought - IT CAN REACT WITH THE IRON PART OF THE BLOOD, THE HEME PART... WHICH CAN ENSUE A PSEUDOPORPHYRIA CONDITION. > > Impairment of psychomotor performance occurs after a 4-h exposure to2610 mg/m3. Narcosis occurred following exposure to 69000 mg/m3 for30 min.Individuals with heart disease may be especially at risk when exposed to methylene chloride, because of the deficiency of oxygen induced by carbon monoxide, bound to haemoglobin. > The main chronic effects in human beings are nervous system depression and an elevated carboxyhaemoglobin concentration in the blood. > methylenechloride should be regarded as a potential human carcinogen. > Methylene chloride (HSG 6, 1987) > http://www.inchem. org/documents/ hsg/hsg/hsg006. htm > > 39)Platinum Salt > > Ya know, its no wonder we all are so ill.....Those are some toxic chemicals... ......then to top it off > all the bacteria and fungus that grows inside the implants.... ....very gross ! ! > Hugs > Dede > > > > > > > > > ************ ** > Recession-proof vacation ideas. 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