Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 Hi Naomi We use Eye Q - see the site on www.equazen.com There is good explanation and some studies also. This is not CLO but it is EPA, DHA & GLA. HTH Mandi > I wonder if there is info out there comparing the fish oil supplements. I > looked in files and didn't see anything. I wonder, what are the advantages > > of pharmaceutical grade (other than the taste) vs. ones combined with > flax/borage oil. And how much is the right amount to give a child with > ASD? > I've heard Barry Sears say as much as 15gr a day! How much is too much, > and how would you know? > > Naomi, mom to Sam (4yo, autism) and (15mo, NT) > Check out Sam’s Autism Page sam26847.tripod.com > > " We aim above the mark to hit the mark. " > -Ralph Waldo Emerson > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 I think one benefit of using a high quality fish oil is that they use a better purifying system to remove any trace of mercury found in some oils. stacey [ ] Fish oil supplements > > I wonder if there is info out there comparing the fish oil supplements. I > looked in files and didn't see anything. I wonder, what are the advantages > of pharmaceutical grade (other than the taste) vs. ones combined with > flax/borage oil. And how much is the right amount to give a child with ASD? > I've heard Barry Sears say as much as 15gr a day! How much is too much, > and how would you know? > > Naomi, mom to Sam (4yo, autism) and (15mo, NT) > Check out Sam's Autism Page sam26847.tripod.com > > " We aim above the mark to hit the mark. " > -Ralph Waldo Emerson > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Share Posted May 16, 2002 Hi Naomi! My daughter has been on Efalex for 16 months. We got all our info on dosages and other EFA supplements from *The LCP Solution* by Stordy and Malcolm Nicholl. This book (written in 2000) contains a large section comparing fish-oil supplements (although I believe it was written before the production of Pro-EFA, which is popular with many parents). It should be available at your local library, and can certainly be obtained through a bookstore or on- line. Dr. Stordy has some interesting comments on flaxseed oil and borage oil. For more comparisons, you might like to check out http://www.apraxia.cc/ (Don't worry if your child doesn't have apraxia; it's a very thorough resource on EFA's. Once there, click on " index " , then " Apraxia+EFA=Speech " , then " EFA resources " .) Oh yes, and Dr. Stordy has a website too: http://www.drstordy.com She has an " e-zine " with updated info which can be accessed at the site, but you'll have to click around a bit... HTH Gail (mum to Alice,6,GDD, and Philippa,10,gifted) > > I wonder if there is info out there comparing the fish oil supplements. I > looked in files and didn't see anything. I wonder, what are the advantages > of pharmaceutical grade (other than the taste) vs. ones combined with > flax/borage oil. And how much is the right amount to give a child with ASD? > I've heard Barry Sears say as much as 15gr a day! How much is too much, > and how would you know? > > Naomi, mom to Sam (4yo, autism) and (15mo, NT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Both. I had problems when I took only Eskimo 3. My naturopath originally recommended it, and decided that 9 gelcaps per day, divided equally by 3 meals was an appropriate dose. At first it helped, but over time it seemed to make my inflammation problems worse. It seems to not have the right balance for what I need. When I added Nordic Naturals Omega 3 EPA formula, and reduced the amount of Eskimo 3 that I use, I've had much better results. I take 3 Eskimo 3 and 3 Nordic Natural gelcaps per day. Any less and I seem to have an increase in inflammation. More doesn't seem to make a difference. I have not tried any other brands because of concerns about mercury. I tried EPO, and it immediately caused an increase in inflammation for me. Borage oil also causes increase in inflammation for me. lindaj@... Fish Oil Supplements > Anyone have positive or negative experiences with fish oil? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Fish oil and flax oil helped me at first,than appearently I have taken too much of it. developed eczema like skin eruptions. Still fighting with them. Balance with omega 6 is important. , I read that some types of omega 6 causes inflammation. I don't remember the names now.Epo has them but borage does not contain those types. Borage has only GLA and not others.So,I am just about to order some borage oil for omega 6 balancing. Just wanted to inform you. Best regards. Nil Re: Fish Oil Supplements > Both. I had problems when I took only Eskimo 3. My naturopath originally > recommended it, and decided that 9 gelcaps per day, divided equally by 3 > meals was an appropriate dose. At first it helped, but over time it seemed > to make my inflammation problems worse. It seems to not have the right > balance for what I need. When I added Nordic Naturals Omega 3 EPA formula, > and reduced the amount of Eskimo 3 that I use, I've had much better results. > I take 3 Eskimo 3 and 3 Nordic Natural gelcaps per day. Any less and I seem > to have an increase in inflammation. More doesn't seem to make a difference. > I have not tried any other brands because of concerns about mercury. I tried > EPO, and it immediately caused an increase in inflammation for me. Borage > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 I tried and no difference, but it seems like maybe you have to take a lot, many grams, to see effects. It could be I never took enough. Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 i have found a couple of other interesting companies that make Omega products. http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ http://www.thorne.com/ i have been using the probiotics from kirkman, but don't know anything about their other products. thanks bill > Both. I had problems when I took only Eskimo 3. My naturopath originally > recommended it, and decided that 9 gelcaps per day, divided equally by 3 > meals was an appropriate dose. At first it helped, but over time it seemed > to make my inflammation problems worse. It seems to not have the right > balance for what I need. When I added Nordic Naturals Omega 3 EPA formula, > and reduced the amount of Eskimo 3 that I use, I've had much better results. > I take 3 Eskimo 3 and 3 Nordic Natural gelcaps per day. Any less and I seem > to have an increase in inflammation. More doesn't seem to make a difference. > I have not tried any other brands because of concerns about mercury. I tried > EPO, and it immediately caused an increase in inflammation for me. Borage > oil also causes increase in inflammation for me. > > > lindaj@h... > > Fish Oil Supplements > > > > Anyone have positive or negative experiences with fish oil? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 , I am lately using pine nuts succesfully. Thanks Nil Re: Fish Oil Supplements > i have found a couple of other interesting companies that make Omega > products. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I don't see why a company should be judged on their standards of purity based only on the fact that they didn't respond to this organization's queries. Oceans Alive is not telling us anything good or bad about the standards of the companies that didn't respond, so to say that those brands are the " worst choice " seems to me to be saying merely, " We don't think you should buy this product because this company didn't cooperate with our survey. " Gretchen Fish oil supplements Hello all: The following website http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm?subnav=fishoil & sort=Company has excellent testing information on the quality of various brands of fish oil supplements. They list BEST and WORST choices based upon feedback from the various mfrs and testing. I will follow their recommendations on my next purchase. Merrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 This site also: http://consumerlab.com/index.asp tests and gives results of good and bad supplements. You have to join to access the most recent but there are many accessible without joining. ) http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 LOL!!--the only criteria they used for other than best choice was that the company didn't fill out THEIR form. What a crock. Usually there is only one BEST choice and they had dozens (whoever completed the form!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 And who's to say the responses were truthful. mcpherson.bg@... wrote:I don't see why a company should be judged on their standards of purity based only on the fact that they didn't respond to this organization's queries. Oceans Alive is not telling us anything good or bad about the standards of the companies that didn't respond, so to say that those brands are the " worst choice " seems to me to be saying merely, " We don't think you should buy this product because this company didn't cooperate with our survey. " Gretchen Fish oil supplements Hello all: The following website http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm?subnav=fishoil & sort=Company has excellent testing information on the quality of various brands of fish oil supplements. They list BEST and WORST choices based upon feedback from the various mfrs and testing. I will follow their recommendations on my next purchase. Merrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 It is one of the recommendations in the manual... you might want to go back and read that portion. in GA > > I have not been in the group very long, but have been noticing a lot of talk about fish oil supplements. I must have missed the initial emails about this and was wondering, why do you take fish oil? > > > (queenkellywilliams@y...) > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 One of my bariatric physician's mentioned that freezing the fish oil supplment helps prevent the fish tasting burps. Fish oil supplements Abbe This is in regards to your I have read about your interest in fish oil supplements. I have noticed that Kirkland brand Fish oil supplements repeat on people. From what I have read, burping up the oil is a sign that it is old! When I went to return my own personal bottle of their fish oil, the employee there commented that there is no expiration date on the bottle so he took it back with no question. There is a great website www.oceansalive.org that reviews different fish oil supplements for quality etc. Check it out. Regards DeVera, RD Dominican Hospital in Santa Cruz, CA _____ Relax. virus scanning <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/virusall/*http://communications..c\ om/features.php?page=221> helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 http://www.naturalnews.com/028367_fish_oil_supplements.html What You Do Not Know About Fish Oil Supplements Will Hurt You Sunday, March 14, 2010 by: Fassa, citizen journalist See all articles by this author Email this author NaturalNews) A group of three plaintiffs very recently filed a suit against eight supplement companies for violating California Proposition 65, which mandates that consumers must be warned on product labels of dangerous toxins beyond established "safe harbor" limits. The plaintiffs intend to prove that the eight supplement manufacturers knowingly passed on PCB contaminated fish oils without Prop 65's required warnings. The three plaintiffs in the suit, which includes the Mateel Justice Foundation, are sifting through other fish oil products to find more Prop 65 violations of knowingly passing on excessive PCB contaminants in their products. Currently, the fish oil providers accused of violating Prop 65 with PCB contamination are: CVS Pharmacy, Inc.; General Nutrition Corp. (GNC); Now Health Group, Inc.; Omega Protein, Inc. (which is the largest bulk provider of fish oil to other distributors); Pharmavite LLC (Nature Made brand); Rite Aid Corp.; Solgar, Inc.; and TwinLab Corp. More Details On The Suit Since 1986, Proposition 65 has required work places and product manufacturers to openly warn of carcinogens and reproductive toxins that may cause birth defects. PCBs are among those. According to one of the plaintiffs, Manthey, "[W]e found that the industry seems very aware that fish oil supplements can be high in PCBs". Manthey continued, "That's why many of them say their supplements have been "treated" to remove or reduce PCBs. But since they don't say how much PCB contamination is still left, even consumers who choose "treated" supplements can't know what PCB levels they're swallowing along with their daily omega-3." Plaintiff attorney Roe thinks a favorable court ruling in California will have a positive effect nationally, as any company with a national reputation would not want to sell products considered unsafe by California standards. The problem with enforcing Prop 65 for supplemental PCB contamination has been the expense for testing PCBs - which contain 209 compounds. The cost of testing is $1000 per item! However, they don't all need to be tested since isolating a few that resemble dioxins and matching them to established dioxin toxic load limits is sufficient. A WHO Fact Sheet Relates Dioxins to PCB Contamination The biochemistry of how PCBs and dioxins are related is complicated. Many PCB compounds are virtually the same as dioxins in form and toxic activity. And they are considered part of the "dirty dozen" of environmental toxins, which are highly toxic persistent organic pollutants. When dioxins enter the body, they are stored in fatty tissues with a half life of up to 11 years. This half life represents the first order of chemical activity, meaning these toxins are as nasty as possible for that time. Environmentally, industrial PCB oil wastes in a given area contribute to the release of dioxins or dioxin type compounds in that location. From there they spread throughout the area food chain, and whatever fish or animal is at the top of that chain will contain the highest concentration of dioxins or PCBs. Conclusion The plaintiffs' testing determined that fish oil products tested so far had at least some PCB contamination, with some having as much as 70 times more than others, while the plant based flax and alfalfa omega-3 oils tested for zero PCB contamination! In addition to PCB toxins in fish oil supplements, you get to play Russian roulette with mercury with anything having to do with fish. The choice should be obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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