Re: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

[Guest guest]

Wow, Dede, this is the first time that I've heard of using coconut oil for the

gallbladder...anytime I've done a liver flush, I've used olive oil.

I'm getting ready to do one this week in fact.

I am still suffering from allergies, and that is the only reason I've delayed.

I'm hoping that a flush will help me beat it, but I'd like to get past this

congestion before I do it.

Will have to look into this more. I love my coconut oil actually!

Patty

Patty

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> From: DGRAHAMA@... <DGRAHAMA@...>

> Subject: Re: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

>

> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 10:20 AM

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>

>

>

> Patty ~

> Welcome to the group ! Yes, we have all been ill from implants....

> When you have your explant, be sure it is done correctly so that

> you have the ultimate recovery. If the scar capsules are left in,

> chances are the chemicals and debris contained in them will

> keep you ill.

> What you want is called Enbloc where they cut around the scar tissue

> and remove the thing as a whole. That was there will be no

> spillage into your chest wall. The use of drain tubes will also

> help tremendously, keep the fluid off and any debris draining

> out of you.

> Explant, many times is easier to heal from than implantation. So

> glad you found the group, and I hope you have an easy healing

> journey.

> Please ask all the questions you have. There is a wealth of info

> in the archives, even before and after list of questions for your

> doctors, and tips to help things be easier for you.

>

> Hugs N Prayers

> Dede

>

>

>

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> Saline making me sick EXPLANT

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> Hey All

>

> I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very

sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30

pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

>

> i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled

for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to

recovery and maybe get well again.

>

> Anyone else having problems??

>

> thanks

> patty

>

[Guest guest]

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Where in Arizona? I lived in Tucson when I was sick, and traveled to Mesa, to

have Dr. Karl Hiatt do my explant.

He did the en bloc removal, so I was very happy, and I got a lift at the same

time. He even got insurance to pay for it.

YOu might want to see if he is still there and will do your explant for you.

Patty

>

>

> Yes Patty,

>

>

>

> Me to a tee. I got mine in 07 and I am right there with you in bed, most of

the time. I am dizzy,confused, major fatigued, nauseous, muscles aching and

burning (especially at night), a hard time breathing, low blood pressure, low

vitamin D, hypothytoidism, hormone imbalances. Who is doing your explant? I

have been researching docs and proper explantation. I want Dr. Melmed but I live

in Arizona and I am afraid to call and see how much it is. Also, I started

having joint pain. The symptoms seem endless. All I had before implants was on

and off low blood pressure, and tired a lot but lived normally, now I'm very

sick. Oh yeah, I had ibs before but now I have constant stomach pain and

irritation. One implant is too low and causing pain. I'm miserable. Mine did

the oppostite of losing weight but caused inability to lose.

>

>

>

> Thanks-

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From: pattycanter@...

> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 04:44:55 -0700

> Subject: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

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>

>

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>

>

>

> Hey All

>

> I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very

sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30

pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

>

> i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled

for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to

recovery and maybe get well again.

>

> Anyone else having problems??

>

> thanks

> patty

>

>

>

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,

These are all valid concerns...we usually recommend that women steer clear of

the implanting surgeon for explant, because often times they do not take us very

seriously, and will not be as forthright or unbiased as someone who has no

previous experience with our case. It also takes more skill to do an explant,

and some doctors who implant lots of implants have very little skill when it

comes to removal.

Perhaps there are exceptions though.....and I am hoping that this is the case

with this doctor and for Patty.

We are always looking for good explanting docs...I am hoping that if this person

turns out to be good at explanting, is honest, forthright, ethical and skilled,

we would want to be adding the name to our list!

Please keep us posted Patty!!!

Patty

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> From: Lengyel <tracylengyel@...>

> Subject: RE: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

>

> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 2:30 PM

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>

>

>

> Yes Patty,

>

> Me to a tee. I got mine in 07 and I am right there with you in bed, most of

the time. I am dizzy,confused, major fatigued, nauseous, muscles aching and

burning (especially at night), a hard time breathing, low blood pressure, low

vitamin D, hypothytoidism, hormone imbalances. Who is doing your explant? I

have been researching docs and proper explantation. I want Dr. Melmed but I live

in Arizona and I am afraid to call and see how much it is. Also, I started

having joint pain. The symptoms seem endless. All I had before implants was on

and off low blood pressure, and tired a lot but lived normally, now I'm very

sick. Oh yeah, I had ibs before but now I have constant stomach pain and

irritation. One implant is too low and causing pain. I'm miserable. Mine did

the oppostite of losing weight but caused inability to lose.

>

> Thanks-

>

>

>

>

>

> From: pattycanter

> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 04:44:55 -0700

> Subject: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

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>

> Hey All

>

> I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very

sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30

pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

>

> i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled

for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to

recovery and maybe get well again.

>

> Anyone else having problems??

>

> thanks

> patty

>

>

>

>

>

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It is a breath of fresh air to have Dr Melmed, as well as Dr.Feng, Dr. Kolb, and

Dr. Huang on our side. They are pretty wonderful. For the record though, I

believe it is only Dr. Melmed that no longer implants. All the others still use

implants, but I believe they are very open and honest about the sickness they've

seen, and only offer their services because they know women want them, and at

least they know they will have given them full disclosure.

Patty

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>

> I did see that before about these other docs, but honestly, I don't want to

deal with someone that is still ok with putting poison holding sacks for

infestations in womens precious bodies. I did look up Dr Warnock, but felt it

would be a slap in the face for me to see them still glamorizing these killers.

I really respect Dr. Melmed for standing up against all these doctors that still

say they are safe, and fully supporting the women in their illness. But, he is

expensive but I dk in comparison to anyone else because I didn't check yet. I'm

angry and sad. Thanks-

>

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> From: DGRAHAMA@...

> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:48:39 -0400

> Subject: Re: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

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> Where in AZ do you live ? I have a sister in Phoenix.

> There is that doc in Utah someone recently mentioned

> Dr Warnock I believe is his name

> http://www.drstevenwarnock.com/

> and there is Dr Huang in Colorado. very awesome

> doctor.

>

> http://www.lindahuangmd.com/

> I am sorry you feel so badly.....

> Hope this helps you some..

> Dede

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> Saline making me sick EXPLANT

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> Hey All

>

> I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very

sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30

pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

>

> i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled

for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to

recovery and maybe get well again.

>

> Anyone else having problems??

>

> thanks

> patty

>

>

>

>

>

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Good perspective and valuable info!!!

Thank you!!!!

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> >From: Lengyel <tracylengyel@ hotmail.com>

> >Subject: RE: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

> >

> >Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 2:30 PM

> >

> >

> > 

> >Yes Patty,

> > 

> >Me to a tee.  I got mine in 07 and I am right there with you in bed, most of

the time.  I am dizzy,confused, major fatigued, nauseous, muscles aching and

burning (especially at night), a hard time breathing, low blood pressure, low

vitamin D, hypothytoidism, hormone imbalances.  Who is doing your explant?  I

have been researching docs and proper explantation. I want Dr. Melmed but I live

in Arizona and I am afraid to call and see how much it is.  Also, I started

having joint pain.  The symptoms seem endless.  All I had before implants was

on and off low blood pressure, and tired a lot but lived normally, now I'm very

sick.  Oh yeah, I had ibs before but now I have constant stomach pain and

irritation.  One implant is too low and causing pain.  I'm miserable.  Mine

did the oppostite of losing weight but caused inability to lose.

> > 

> >Thanks-

> >

> > 

> >________________________________

>

> >From: pattycanter

> >Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 04:44:55 -0700

> >Subject: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

> >

> > 

> >Hey All

> >

> >I got my saline implants in 06,  i started getting sick 6 months ago.  Very

sick!!  No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed.  Have lost 30

pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

> >

> >i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response.  i am scheduled

for explant May 27th!!!!   I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to

recovery and maybe get well again.

> >

> >Anyone else having problems??

> >

> >thanks

> >patty

> >

> >

> >________________________________

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Yes, I definitely want to update our doctor list with new docs if they are out

there! Please provide all the necessary contact info when you are certain she

is qualified to be added to our list.

Thanks!

Patty

>

>

> From: Lengyel <tracylengyel@ hotmail.com>

> Subject: RE: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

>

> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 2:30 PM

>

>

>

> Yes Patty,

>

> Me to a tee. I got mine in 07 and I am right there with you in bed, most of

the time. I am dizzy,confused, major fatigued, nauseous, muscles aching and

burning (especially at night), a hard time breathing, low blood pressure, low

vitamin D, hypothytoidism, hormone imbalances. Who is doing your explant? I

have been researching docs and proper explantation. I want Dr. Melmed but I live

in Arizona and I am afraid to call and see how much it is. Also, I started

having joint pain. The symptoms seem endless. All I had before implants was on

and off low blood pressure, and tired a lot but lived normally, now I'm very

sick. Oh yeah, I had ibs before but now I have constant stomach pain and

irritation. One implant is too low and causing pain. I'm miserable. Mine did

the oppostite of losing weight but caused inability to lose.

>

> Thanks-

>

>

>

> From: pattycanter

> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 04:44:55 -0700

> Subject: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

>

>

>

>

>

> Hey All

>

> I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very

sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30

pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

>

> i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled

for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to

recovery and maybe get well again.

>

> Anyone else having problems??

>

> thanks

> patty

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get

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,

Your immune system is in a very heightened response mode at this time, and I

would suggest that you just focus on taking good care of

yourself and that baby right now. Your hormones are going to be all over the

map, and hormonal fluctuations can play a big part in our immune system

responses.

Please make sure that your doctor pays extra special attention to your thyroid.

Many women who are sick from implants suffer from thyroid dysfunction and that

will be important to track while you are pregnant.

It sounds like you were one of the rare people, like me, who reacted pretty

strongly to the implants fairly quickly. There are some women who NEVER felt

good, from the moment they woke up from surgery until explant, and then there

are others who get sick at about 6 months or so. Still others take years. So,

it is hard to know what your body is doing, but the pregnancy certainly makes

everything much more complicated.

You can best help yourself by eating a clean diet, get rid of junk foods,

inflammatory foods ( foods high in saturated fats, meats, dairy) and eat a diet

that is rich in plant foods and vegetarian fare. This will help to keep your

immune system response from going into prolonged flares.

Try to eliminate sources of contamination in your home: drink filtered water,

avoid dry cleaning your clothes...oh, let me just suggest that you go to the FAQ

file and read about how to detox. There are dozens upon dozens of suggestions

there, and you can do those things that are convenient and comfortable for you.

Congratulations on your pregnancy, and I am hoping that you will have a

wonderful experience, not terribly affected by what you have recently gone

through. I know it has been so hard for you.

We're here to help.

Patty

>

> Hi Everyone,

>  

> I had my saline implants in just for just 7 months.  Within just 2 days I was

in ER they said I had a reaction to my meds. I couldn't walk even get out of bed

couldn't eat lightheaded felt like I was going to pass out . This lasted for 2

weeks solid. It did get better but never 100% but then I had to go in and have a

lift she didn't due the first time I never recovered afterward. I lost weight

had what they are calling brain fog naseau no vomiting lost 2 hand fulls of hair

a day my friends said it looked like I was being poisoned. I had heart

palpations racing pulse could literally feel my heart pounding outside of my

chest. I had ever test ran but a scope down my throat. only 1 vein left in my

arm they stick. But everything came back normal. Then in the middle I found out

I was pregnant. My OB said get them out if I was in good health before because I

am way to sick I got them out 3 weeks ago. The problem is I didn't get them out

the right way. My scar

> tissue is still in there because they couldn't seditate me. I can't take any

medication because of the baby. I had a good 2 weeks now my issues have came

back along with chest pain under my sternum. Does anyone have any suggestions on

what I should do next to control the symptoms since my body has to fight it on

its own that won't harm the baby. Thanks for reading

>  

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, Patty, and the caprylic acid in coconut oil works wonders for so many things.

I swear by it.....without it, I would be bedridden again.......being off of it for my

surgery was proof positive of that.....My heart doc told me to get back on it

right away.....a matter of fact, he has articles on cap acid in his office now after

I presented it to him and how it has worked in my case......YAY !

I wonder if by chance your congestion is all part of your body being congested

and if perhaps that will get better when you do your flush......

I wonder if all the new things and humidity you had in Hawaii was hard on your

system. I highly suggest taking cap acid when on trips cuz of its

anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral properties.....as well as it is a wonderful

Essential Fatty Acid ! !

Dont forget, you can also put alittle anti-fungal in your nose, and it will help

as well.......

We get the Mexico fire smoke here, and it affects people, do yall get it

there in Nevada ?

Love Dede

Saline making me sick EXPLANT

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>

>

>

>

>

> Hey All

>

> I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30 pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

>

> i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to recovery and maybe get well again.

>

> Anyone else having problems??

>

> thanks

> patty

>

[Guest guest]

Ok. I will let you know after the surgery how it turns out then you can add her to the list

Thank you!

Sun

From: glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 11:57:37 PMSubject: Re: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

Yes, I definitely want to update our doctor list with new docs if they are out there! Please provide all the necessary contact info when you are certain she is qualified to be added to our list.Thanks!Patty> > > From: Lengyel <tracylengyel@ hotmail.com>> Subject: RE: Saline making me sick EXPLANT> > Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 2:30 PM> > > > Yes Patty,> > Me to a tee. I got mine in 07 and I am right there with you in bed, most of the time. I am dizzy,confused, major fatigued, nauseous, muscles aching and burning (especially at night), a hard time breathing, low blood pressure, low vitamin D, hypothytoidism, hormone imbalances. Who is doing your explant? I have been researching docs and proper explantation. I want Dr. Melmed but I live in Arizona and I am afraid to call and see

how much it is. Also, I started having joint pain. The symptoms seem endless. All I had before implants was on and off low blood pressure, and tired a lot but lived normally, now I'm very sick. Oh yeah, I had ibs before but now I have constant stomach pain and irritation. One implant is too low and causing pain. I'm miserable. Mine did the oppostite of losing weight but caused inability to lose. > > Thanks- > > > > From: pattycanter> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 04:44:55 -0700> Subject: Saline making me sick EXPLANT> > > > > > Hey All> > I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30 pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!> > i went to my PS

and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to recovery and maybe get well again.> > Anyone else having problems??> > thanks> patty> > > > > > > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started.>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reminder on the Caprylic acid too Dede...gosh, what would I do

without you????

Your doctor is smart to be listening to you, for sure...

We get the California wildfire smoke here...it can get pretty nasty!

It smells pretty strong at times. The wildfire season will be upon us very

soon....

Patty

> >

> >

> > From: DGRAHAMA@ <DGRAHAMA@>

> > Subject: Re: Saline making me sick EXPLANT

> >

> > Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 10:20 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Patty ~

> > Welcome to the group ! Yes, we have all been ill from implants....

> > When you have your explant, be sure it is done correctly so that

> > you have the ultimate recovery. If the scar capsules are left in,

> > chances are the chemicals and debris contained in them will

> > keep you ill.

> > What you want is called Enbloc where they cut around the scar tissue

> > and remove the thing as a whole. That was there will be no

> > spillage into your chest wall. The use of drain tubes will also

> > help tremendously, keep the fluid off and any debris draining

> > out of you.

> > Explant, many times is easier to heal from than implantation. So

> > glad you found the group, and I hope you have an easy healing

> > journey.

> > Please ask all the questions you have. There is a wealth of info

> > in the archives, even before and after list of questions for your

> > doctors, and tips to help things be easier for you.

> >

> > Hugs N Prayers

> > Dede

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Saline making me sick EXPLANT

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey All

> >

> > I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very

sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30

pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

> >

> > i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled

for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to

recovery and maybe get well again.

> >

> > Anyone else having problems??

> >

> > thanks

> > patty

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are welcome, Patty.....Even if you arent taking cap acid in

mega doses for fungal or bacterial or viral overload problems

taking it in suggested doses is excellent for EFA's ......

I didnt even know that many years ago they used to use

it for gallbladder problems.......I wish I could find that article

about it on that....but it is on my old computer.....

Hugs

Dede

Saline making me sick EXPLANT

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey All

> >

> > I got my saline implants in 06, i started getting sick 6 months ago. Very sick!! No longer able to work and spend most of my time in bed. Have lost 30 pounds I never intended to lose and now down to a size 2 jeans!!!

> >

> > i went to my PS and he said I was having an immune response. i am scheduled for explant May 27th!!!! I cant wait to get these OUT and get on a road to recovery and maybe get well again.

> >

> > Anyone else having problems??

> >

> > thanks

> > patty

> >

>