Re: Questions re: fasting for health

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Hi Theresa- I know you address that to Patty, but if I can help you I am the one PH was referring to about the gal that did the 37 day fast. What are you trying to accomplish? such as symptoms etc. Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H.© Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved

by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. From: tjay1302000 <t-jay130@...> Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 6:30:12 PMSubject: Questions re: fasting for health

Hi Patty,

I found this post of yours in the archives.

Our library only has one copy of the Fuhrman book, but I put my name on the list.

In your opinion, what specific type of fast would be a good one for my first 3 day? Lemon + cayene, juice greens, etc...

Thanks,

M.

>... have you ever considered a supervised fast? There is so much

> healing that can happen with a fast for health....the body uses the

> break from digestion to really get deeper into the tissues, where this

> toxicity is.

>

> PH shared with me the story of the lady who had MS and cured it after a

> 37 day fast.

>

> http://ginakopera. com/id13. html

>

> I believe that my own healing took off after I conducted several 3 day

> fasts, and a juice fast. I had been sitting on a plateau of

> healing...not going anywhere, until I started another series of fasts,

> and then things started happening for me.

>

> It sounds to me like you have toxicity that needs to be removed from

> deep in the tissues. It took me at least 3 days of fasting to see that

> things were happening.

>

> I know it's hard, but is it something you think you could do?

>

> Please check over this healing website on fasting:

> http://www.fasting. ws/Healing_ through_Fasting. htm

>

> and also read Dr. Fuhrman's book "Fasting and Eating for Health".

>

> Did you read the article I sent today on believing you can get better?

> Patty

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the offer of help, .

I was a breast cancer patient in 2007, bilateral surgery, T.A.C. chemo,

ooectomy, developed lymphedema...

I worked with my nutrition and an accupuncturist over the past 2 years and now

eat 80-20 on the Fuhrman Eat to Live plan. Mostly I am doing fine. On all

blood work, my markers are fine. But...

-I have noticed a thickening of the skin on my fingers that concerns me as I had

noticed that in the years prior to the cancer diagnosis, it cleared up during

chemo, and has returned.

-I have dark brown circles beginning under the eye area, which again, I had for

YEARS prior to the diagnosis, it cleared during chemo, and has returned.

-I know that the chemo put a strain on my liver and kidneys and I would like to

do what I can to maintain their wellbeing.

-I have always suspected parasites, and even found some in the stools during the

chemo months. I couldn't get a physician interested in helping me deal with

them, but then, I also dropped the ball because I haven't done a cleanse for

them. In your opinion, how many months of caprylic acid would I need? Or, is

there another suggestion.

I would appreciate your input as to whether a 3 day fast now and then would take

me in the right direction.

Thank you.

M.

> >... have you ever considered a supervised fast? There is so much

> > healing that can happen with a fast for health....the body uses the

> > break from digestion to really get deeper into the tissues, where this

> > toxicity is.

> >

> > PH shared with me the story of the lady who had MS and cured it after a

> > 37 day fast.

> >

> > http://ginakopera. com/id13. html

> >

> > I believe that my own healing took off after I conducted several 3 day

> > fasts, and a juice fast. I had been sitting on a plateau of

> > healing...not going anywhere, until I started another series of fasts,

> > and then things started happening for me.

> >

> > It sounds to me like you have toxicity that needs to be removed from

> > deep in the tissues. It took me at least 3 days of fasting to see that

> > things were happening.

> >

> > I know it's hard, but is it something you think you could do?

> >

> > Please check over this healing website on fasting:

> > http://www.fasting. ws/Healing_ through_Fasting. htm

> >

> > and also read Dr. Fuhrman's book " Fasting and Eating for Health " .

> >

> > Did you read the article I sent today on believing you can get better?

> > Patty

>

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Theresa-Good for you on the diet your following! For everything you have been through you need to get the blood cleansed out. But wait, there are steps prior to cleansing out your blood, the blood would be last avenue in cleansing. For a parasite cleanse go to my website www.ginascorner.com, scroll to the bottom and join my group and once in there , and in the files look at Parasite and Parasite Cleanse the cleanse one is Dr. Hulda e. I tried the zapper, I have to say that I didnt find that really did anything for me. The herbs on the other hand is what did the trick and following it for the length of time describe, did wonders. Especially for my son that had seizures that was the start of pulling the seizures

further apart. I had tried so many different parasites formulas and all they were was parasite formulas. The trouble is the parasites have a cycle and you have to hit all the stages, and Dr. e hit that one on the nose. What I would suggest for anyone try the parasite cleanse, then embark on fasting.In regards to a 3 day fast, which isn't hurtful by any means just not helpful for ones searching for lasting healing results. If your interested in a longer fast, you can look in the files it is all straight from my book, and there is direction on the cleansing part. Once you get your body cleansed out, you will see the changes from head to toe and inside out. The dark circles to the skin on your fingers will reverse once the body is balanced and cleansed out. What happenes over time from the gut to the small and large intestines (I like to say from your hooter to your tooter) a buildup happens on the walls that

nutrients are not penetrating through. Those nutrients is what feeds our body health and with the buildup of all this old grudge we are lucky to be assuming 5-10% of nutrients we are consuming. Once the old debrie has a chance of getting off the walls then we have a chance of assuming and assimilating 40-50% of the nutrients we consume. Not to mention the issue with candida and parasites that are harbored in the same track.Cleansing process goes in this order:Colon, Kidney, Liver then Blood. Kidney or liver can be done at the same time or switched.P.S: For right now and something you can do today is apply olive oil to your cuticles. Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H.© Copyright

2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. From: tjay1302000 <t-jay130@...> Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 12:44:32 PMSubject: Re: Questions re: fasting for health

Thanks for the offer of help, .

I was a breast cancer patient in 2007, bilateral surgery, T.A.C. chemo, ooectomy, developed lymphedema.. .

I worked with my nutrition and an accupuncturist over the past 2 years and now eat 80-20 on the Fuhrman Eat to Live plan. Mostly I am doing fine. On all blood work, my markers are fine. But...

-I have noticed a thickening of the skin on my fingers that concerns me as I had noticed that in the years prior to the cancer diagnosis, it cleared up during chemo, and has returned.

-I have dark brown circles beginning under the eye area, which again, I had for YEARS prior to the diagnosis, it cleared during chemo, and has returned.

-I know that the chemo put a strain on my liver and kidneys and I would like to do what I can to maintain their wellbeing.

-I have always suspected parasites, and even found some in the stools during the chemo months. I couldn't get a physician interested in helping me deal with them, but then, I also dropped the ball because I haven't done a cleanse for them. In your opinion, how many months of caprylic acid would I need? Or, is there another suggestion.

I would appreciate your input as to whether a 3 day fast now and then would take me in the right direction.

Thank you.

M.

> >... have you ever considered a supervised fast? There is so much

> > healing that can happen with a fast for health....the body uses the

> > break from digestion to really get deeper into the tissues, where this

> > toxicity is.

> >

> > PH shared with me the story of the lady who had MS and cured it after a

> > 37 day fast.

> >

> > http://ginakopera. com/id13. html

> >

> > I believe that my own healing took off after I conducted several 3 day

> > fasts, and a juice fast. I had been sitting on a plateau of

> > healing...not going anywhere, until I started another series of fasts,

> > and then things started happening for me.

> >

> > It sounds to me like you have toxicity that needs to be removed from

> > deep in the tissues. It took me at least 3 days of fasting to see that

> > things were happening.

> >

> > I know it's hard, but is it something you think you could do?

> >

> > Please check over this healing website on fasting:

> > http://www.fasting. ws/Healing_ through_Fasting. htm

> >

> > and also read Dr. Fuhrman's book "Fasting and Eating for Health".

> >

> > Did you read the article I sent today on believing you can get better?

> > Patty

>

[Guest guest]

how do i get in to see the parasite cleanse - i put e-mail add. in and it didnt let me in to see this info.

thanks.

Re: Questions re: fasting for health

Thanks for the offer of help, . I was a breast cancer patient in 2007, bilateral surgery, T.A.C. chemo, ooectomy, developed lymphedema.. .I worked with my nutrition and an accupuncturist over the past 2 years and now eat 80-20 on the Fuhrman Eat to Live plan. Mostly I am doing fine. On all blood work, my markers are fine. But...-I have noticed a thickening of the skin on my fingers that concerns me as I had noticed that in the years prior to the cancer diagnosis, it cleared up during chemo, and has returned.-I have dark brown circles beginning under the eye area, which again, I had for YEARS prior to the diagnosis, it cleared during chemo, and has returned.-I know that the chemo put a strain on my liver and kidneys and I would like to do what I can to maintain their wellbeing.-I have always suspected parasites, and even found some in the stools during the chemo months. I couldn't get a physician interested in helping me deal with them, but then, I also dropped the ball because I haven't done a cleanse for them. In your opinion, how many months of caprylic acid would I need? Or, is there another suggestion.I would appreciate your input as to whether a 3 day fast now and then would take me in the right direction. Thank you. M.> >... have you ever considered a supervised fast? There is so much > > healing that can happen with a fast for health....the body uses the > > break from digestion to really get deeper into the tissues, where this > > toxicity is. > > > > PH shared with me the story of the lady who had MS and cured it after a > > 37 day fast. > > > > http://ginakopera. com/id13. html> > > > I believe that my own healing took off after I conducted several 3 day > > fasts, and a juice fast. I had been sitting on a plateau of > > healing...not going anywhere, until I started another series of fasts, > > and then things started happening for me.> > > > It sounds to me like you have toxicity that needs to be removed from > > deep in the tissues. It took me at least 3 days of fasting to see that > > things were happening. > > > > I know it's hard, but is it something you think you could do?> > > > Please check over this healing website on fasting:> > http://www.fasting. ws/Healing_ through_Fasting. htm> > > > and also read Dr. Fuhrman's book "Fasting and Eating for Health".> > > > Did you read the article I sent today on believing you can get better?> > Patty>

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,

You could try any of those that you mentioned for a first fast. If you have

never fasted before, you may want to try a one day just to get used to the

experience, with water only. Or, you could juice all day, and do water the

next.

The Master Cleanse is a good fast to do, as the lemon, maple syrup and cayenne

gives you something to drink besides water.

The idea is to break into fasting gently to see how your body reacts. Some very

toxic people will react with very difficult symptoms. Others may be able to

handle it so well that they continue on for extra days until they are ready to

break the fast. That is what happened to my first supervised fast...I was

supposed to do it 3 days only, but I had such a good result that I kept going

for 5 days total. After that, I did many fasts of varying duration and with

juices, or water only. There is a great amount of latitude in this.

So, it really all depends on what you think you can handle. In all of these

fasts, you may experience some symptoms such as headache, coldness, and just not

feeling good within the first 24 -48 hours. The benefits usually hit by the 3rd

day when you start feeling really good, and light on your feet. When you get

that feeling, you know you've had some good cleansing going on!

Take care,

Patty

_________

From: tjay1302000 <t-jay130@>

Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 6:30:12 PM

Subject: Questions re: fasting for health

Hi Patty,

I found this post of yours in the archives.

Our library only has one copy of the Fuhrman book, but I put my name on the

list.

In your opinion, what specific type of fast would be a good one for my first 3

day? Lemon + cayene, juice greens, etc...

Thanks,

M.

.... have you ever considered a supervised fast? There is so much

healing that can happen with a fast for health....the body uses the

break from digestion to really get deeper into the tissues, where this

toxicity is.

> > >

PH shared with me the story of the lady who had MS and cured it after a

> > > 37 day fast.

> > >

> > > http://ginakopera. com/id13. html

> > >

> > > I believe that my own healing took off after I conducted several 3 day

> > > fasts, and a juice fast. I had been sitting on a plateau of

> > > healing...not going anywhere, until I started another series of fasts,

> > > and then things started happening for me.

> > >

> > > It sounds to me like you have toxicity that needs to be removed from

> > > deep in the tissues. It took me at least 3 days of fasting to see that

> > > things were happening.

> > >

> > > I know it's hard, but is it something you think you could do?

> > >

> > > Please check over this healing website on fasting:

> > > http://www.fasting. ws/Healing_ through_Fasting. htm

> > >

> > > and also read Dr. Fuhrman's book " Fasting and Eating for Health " .

> > >

> > > Did you read the article I sent today on believing you can get better?

> > > Patty

> >

>

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Did you find it? Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H.© Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute

for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. From: gayle <glass3311@...> Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 4:07:23

PMSubject: Re: Re: Questions re: fasting for health

how do i get in to see the parasite cleanse - i put e-mail add. in and it didnt let me in to see this info.

thanks.

Re: Questions re: fasting for health

Thanks for the offer of help, . I was a breast cancer patient in 2007, bilateral surgery, T.A.C. chemo, ooectomy, developed lymphedema.. .I worked with my nutrition and an accupuncturist over the past 2 years and now eat 80-20 on the Fuhrman Eat to Live plan. Mostly I am doing fine. On all blood work, my markers are fine. But...-I have noticed a thickening of the skin on my fingers that concerns me as I had noticed that in the years prior to the cancer diagnosis, it cleared up during chemo, and has returned.-I have dark brown circles beginning under the eye area, which again, I had for YEARS prior to the diagnosis, it cleared during chemo, and has returned.-I know that the chemo put a strain on my liver and kidneys and I would like to do what I can to maintain their wellbeing.-I have always suspected parasites, and even found some in the stools during the chemo months. I couldn't get a physician interested in

helping me deal with them, but then, I also dropped the ball because I haven't done a cleanse for them. In your opinion, how many months of caprylic acid would I need? Or, is there another suggestion.I would appreciate your input as to whether a 3 day fast now and then would take me in the right direction. Thank you. M.> >... have you ever considered a supervised fast? There is so much > > healing that can happen with a fast for health....the body uses the > > break from digestion to really get deeper into the tissues, where this > > toxicity is. > > > > PH shared with me the story of the lady who had MS and cured it after a > > 37 day fast. > > > > http://ginakopera. com/id13. html> > > > I believe that

my own healing took off after I conducted several 3 day > > fasts, and a juice fast. I had been sitting on a plateau of > > healing...not going anywhere, until I started another series of fasts, > > and then things started happening for me.> > > > It sounds to me like you have toxicity that needs to be removed from > > deep in the tissues. It took me at least 3 days of fasting to see that > > things were happening. > > > > I know it's hard, but is it something you think you could do?> > > > Please check over this healing website on fasting:> > http://www.fasting. ws/Healing_ through_Fasting. htm> > > > and also read Dr. Fuhrman's book "Fasting and Eating for Health".> > > > Did you read the article I sent today on

believing you can get better?> > Patty>

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patty;

my biggest problem is at nite trying to sleep when hungry. do you take something special or do most of juice then? do you also greatly curtail your activity during the day? i find if i stay active in doing normal things daily,(nothing major or stressful), negative symptoms (shakiness, weakness) tend to be worse. do you get weakness where you feel like you just want to sit or lie down?

thanks patty.

gg.

gg

Questions re: fasting for healthHi Patty,I found this post of yours in the archives.Our library only has one copy of the Fuhrman book, but I put my name on the list.In your opinion, what specific type of fast would be a good one for my first 3 day? Lemon + cayene, juice greens, etc... Thanks, M.... have you ever considered a supervised fast? There is so much healing that can happen with a fast for health....the body uses the break from digestion to really get deeper into the tissues, where this toxicity is. > > > PH shared with me the story of the lady who had MS and cured it after a > > > 37 day fast. > > > > > > http://ginakopera. com/id13. html> > > > > > I believe that my own healing took off after I conducted several 3 day > > > fasts, and a juice fast. I had been sitting on a plateau of > > > healing...not going anywhere, until I started another series of fasts, > > > and then things started happening for me.> > > > > > It sounds to me like you have toxicity that needs to be removed from > > > deep in the tissues. It took me at least 3 days of fasting to see that > > > things were happening. > > > > > > I know it's hard, but is it something you think you could do?> > > > > > Please check over this healing website on fasting:> > > http://www.fasting. ws/Healing_ through_Fasting. htm> > > > > > and also read Dr. Fuhrman's book "Fasting and Eating for Health".> > > > > > Did you read the article I sent today on believing you can get better?> > > Patty> >>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, .

I'll start the parasite cleanse very soon.

No time at the computer this afternoon...

Hugs of Gratitude,

M.

[Guest guest]

Look forward to hearing your results! This procedure only takes 3 herbs but one must follow the pattern as described and you will get somewhere. Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H.© Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. From: tjay1302000 <t-jay130@...> Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 3:33:29 PMSubject: Re: Questions re: fasting for health

Thank you, .

I'll start the parasite cleanse very soon.

No time at the computer this afternoon...

Hugs of Gratitude,

M.

[Guest guest]

GG,

I usually do not experience the hunger after the second day, so I have never had

to do anything special. If you can get past that hump, you may be able to make

it longer. I know it's hard.

I have had a few instances in longer fasts where I needed to be careful about

overdoing it, but I am usually pretty normally active even during fasting,

because I feel so much lighter on my feet.

It sounds like your body has a stronger reaction to fasting, if you are getting

shaky and weak.

You may want supervision from a knowledgeable health professional that is

familiar with fasting to help you get past these rough spots, or to advise you

how to best deal with them. I personally did not experience those to a degree

that I was concerned about the safety of the therapy.

Fasting can be challenging if you have adrenal issues. Do you know if you do?

Patty

Re: Re: Questions re: fasting for health

patty;

my biggest problem is at nite trying to sleep when hungry. do you take

something special or do most of juice then? do you also greatly curtail your

activity during the day? i find if i stay active in doing normal things

daily,(nothing major or stressful), negative symptoms (shakiness, weakness)

tend to be worse. do you get weakness where you feel like you just want to sit

or lie down?

thanks patty.

gg.