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In a message dated 1/9/01 7:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, ticklemelui@... writes:

I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS RARE NEAR IMPOSS FOR 2 PEOPLE IN 1 FAMILY TO HAVE AIH?

So I'm confused, very very confused, I thought I wouldn't have to worry about my sister, my children getting it as well.

Has anyone heard of this happening?

(London UK)

My understanding, just from general reading, is that autoimmune diseases in general are familial. Also, that people who have one autoimmune disease often have another. I hope that someone reading this message will tell us that I'm wrong.

Harper (AIH 5/00)

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Yes, Autoimmune diseases do run in families. MY Mom and I have Lupus she dosnt have liver problems though. But the Drs. told me the chances that my children will get them are small because there immune systems are much stronger than mine. , please dont worry.

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Unfortunately, Harper, you are so right. Although a lot of the AIH

literature indicates it is rare for 2 or more in a family to have AIH,

there is a high probablity of some kind of autoimmune disease occuring

within the same family. For instance, I have an 11 year old son with

autoimmune thyroid. While not a rare disease, statistically he does

not fall into the ballpark @ all! It usually occurs in women of

childbearing age, a ratio of 50 to 1, female to male. Go figure. We

have other instances of autoimmune thyroid in other family members

(all female). I would think then, that, although considered very

unlikely, it is still possible for another family member to have AIH

simply because of the propensity within the family to have autoimmune

diseases.

, AARDA is one organization that has a lot of info on autoimmune

disease in general. I am @ work right now and do not have the site

addy handy...and our puter at home has turned into a 50 pound

paperweight...but will try to remember to bring the info to work

tomorrow and post the addy. Maybe you can find more information there

too.

> In a message dated 1/9/01 7:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> ticklemelui@y... writes:

>

>

> > I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS RARE NEAR IMPOSS FOR 2 PEOPLE IN 1 FAMILY TO

HAVE AIH?

> >

> > So I'm confused, very very confused, I thought I wouldn't have to

worry

> > about my sister, my children getting it as well.

> >

> > Has anyone heard of this happening?

> >

>

> My understanding, just from general reading, is that autoimmune

diseases in

> general are familial. Also, that people who have one autoimmune

disease

> often have another. I hope that someone reading this message will

tell us

> that I'm wrong.

> Harper (AIH 5/00)

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It is www.aarda.org

Lori C.

[ ] Re: Mother

>Unfortunately, Harper, you are so right. Although a lot of the AIH

>literature indicates it is rare for 2 or more in a family to have AIH,

>there is a high probablity of some kind of autoimmune disease occuring

>within the same family. For instance, I have an 11 year old son with

>autoimmune thyroid. While not a rare disease, statistically he does

>not fall into the ballpark @ all! It usually occurs in women of

>childbearing age, a ratio of 50 to 1, female to male. Go figure. We

>have other instances of autoimmune thyroid in other family members

>(all female). I would think then, that, although considered very

>unlikely, it is still possible for another family member to have AIH

>simply because of the propensity within the family to have autoimmune

>diseases.

>

>, AARDA is one organization that has a lot of info on autoimmune

>disease in general. I am @ work right now and do not have the site

>addy handy...and our puter at home has turned into a 50 pound

>paperweight...but will try to remember to bring the info to work

>tomorrow and post the addy. Maybe you can find more information there

>too.

>

>

>

>

>> In a message dated 1/9/01 7:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>> ticklemelui@y... writes:

>>

>>

>> > I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS RARE NEAR IMPOSS FOR 2 PEOPLE IN 1 FAMILY TO

>HAVE AIH?

>> >

>> > So I'm confused, very very confused, I thought I wouldn't have to

>worry

>> > about my sister, my children getting it as well.

>> >

>> > Has anyone heard of this happening?

>> >

>>

>> My understanding, just from general reading, is that autoimmune

>diseases in

>> general are familial. Also, that people who have one autoimmune

>disease

>> often have another. I hope that someone reading this message will

>tell us

>> that I'm wrong.

>> Harper (AIH 5/00)

>

>

>

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Hi all; In my family my mother had rheum. arthritis, my father had aplastic anemia and my sister has MS. I am not sure that aplastic anemia is an autoimmune disease but have read it is thought may be. I was diagnosed with AIH Mar 97. Leona M

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In a message dated 1/9/01 7:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, ticklemelui@... writes:

I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS RARE NEAR IMPOSS FOR 2 PEOPLE IN 1 FAMILY TO HAVE AIH? So I'm confused, very very confused, I thought I wouldn't have to worry about my sister, my children getting it as well. Has anyone heard of this happening? (London UK)My understanding, just from general reading, is that autoimmune diseases in general are familial. Also, that people who have one autoimmune disease often have another. I hope that someone reading this message will tell us that I'm wrong. Harper (AIH 5/00)

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Autoimmunity runs in my family as well. Father had rheumatoid arthritis,

I had rheumatic fever when I was a kid (long ago), and now AIH.

According to my doc. autoimunity can run in families but other factors

play a role. www.aarda.org has a good faq on this subject. Since my

children are at higher risk to get an autoimmune diseases, I have met

with their doctors and made it quite clear that this should be addressed

in their medical records, and the doctors agreed.

Clyde

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Jon, no it is not unusual for someone with achalasia to not be

able to swallow and retain water. This is one of the symptoms

of achalasia.

After treatment (dilatation or a myotomy) then you often

need to drink a lot of water to wash down the food.

She need to tell her doctor about this. It will probably get

worse and you don't want her to become dehydrated.

Maggie

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Liquids, by their very nature, flow more smoothly down thru the esophagus and into the stomach. Primary symptoms of achalasia are the cessation of peristalsis of the esophagus and the contraction of the LES (Lower Esophageal Sphincter) to the stomach. When the LES contracts tightly, nothing is going to pass through to the stomach (and for those discussing vomiting, nothing is going to shoot up from the stomach).

To answer your question directly, it is not rare that achalasia sufferers can find drinking to be as difficult as eating at times. It goes with the disease.

Since your mother has had achalasia diagnosed, I am assuming that you are now at the point of deciding which course of action to take. Please keep us informed so that our group can help you make an informed decision. If you read the recent file posted by Barbara, you will read how a well intentioned person suffering from achalasia her entire life, has gone thru hell. Like anything else, there are doctors and there are DOCTORS. Achalasia requires a surgeon who has done many surgeries (and has received the "Achalasian Certificate of Competency" (I just made that up).

Take time to read many of the posts here. Its an education well worth the time.

In a message dated 3/8/2007 8:48:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jshkingswood@... writes:

Can somebody tell me please if it is rare that achalasia sufferers find drinking as difficult as eating? My mother has had achalasia diagnosed, although from what i read on these pages, most people find it helps to wash food down with lots of fluid. She is unable to drink more than half a small cup in 40 minutes so is clearly different to some others - any ideas?Jon

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Before my husband finally went to the dr to see what was wrong, he couldn't even drink water. It just wouldn't go down and he had to throw it up. He lost about 30 pounds in a month. He had the dilation done because he need some immediate relief and that helped for a few months. Now he's going to have the surgery because it's getting bad again. But he's so stubborn. Last night (well this morning) when I saw that the time was only 4am I yelled at him to prop himself up so he would stop coughing and choking and throwing up. He finally did it and we managed to get a couple hours of sleep.

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Can somebody tell me please if it is rare that achalasia sufferers find drinking as difficult as eating? My mother has had achalasia diagnosed, although from what i read on these pages, most people find it helps to wash food down with lots of fluid. She is unable to drink more than half a small cup in 40 minutes so is clearly different to some others - any ideas?Jon

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Dear Jon, I was going to reply to your post but see you have got your answer. How old is your Mum, because that is relevant to what sort of treatment she should have? And also where do you live? There are several regular members of this Group who live in the UK. I am in West Yorkshire, there are Pippa and Joanne in Northamptonshire, Meena in St. Albans, Steve and in London and many others who pipe up now and again. Some of us are meeting up on 28th April. It would be good for your Mum if she was able to come along and see that she is not alone and also how good life can be after treatment. Best Wishes from Ann x Hurdle <jshkingswood@...> wrote: Can somebody tell me please if it is rare that achalasia sufferers find drinking as difficult as eating? My mother has had achalasia diagnosed, although from what i read on these pages, most people find it helps to wash food down with lots of fluid. She is unable to drink more than half a small cup in 40 minutes so is clearly different to some others - any ideas?Jon New

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Dear Jon, I find drinking very difficult most of the time. It will take me quite a while (over half and hour) to drink a small glass of water, as i can only have sip at a time and have to wait until it goes down, a burp comes up and then i can have another sip. I find it easier to drink a fizzy drink - usually Dry ginger Ale, or warm drinks as these seem to go down easier. I also find that most of the time it is better not to drink and eat - one or the other is quite enough for my oesophagus. Good luck to your mum, Deb in Melbourne, Australia. Hurdle <jshkingswood@...> wrote: Can somebody tell me please if it is rare that achalasia sufferers find drinking as difficult as eating? My mother has had achalasia diagnosed, although from what i read on these pages, most people find it helps to wash food down with lots of fluid. She is unable to drink more than half a small cup in 40 minutes so is clearly different to some others - any ideas?Jon New is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.

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Jon

In reference to your question:

Can somebody tell me please if it is rare that achalasia sufferers find drinking as difficult as eating?

Not only is it not rare it is one of the things that help doctors

diagnosis Achalasia. Some people have this difficulty right

away and others as the disease progresses.

I could not get water down early after the inability to swallow

food and I was always so thirsty. This can also cause dehydration.

With enough force she can get some water through, but her

doctor should be told about that. I'd suggest she gulp a lot of

water to try to force it through.

In achalasia patients, the LES (the muscle which should open

to let food and water enter the sstomach) does not relax

and it can be tight enough to not even allow water to go

through.

After we have a procedure to open that muscle, either a dilation

or myotomy, then water helps push the food down. This is

because we still have no motility in the esophagus. As someone

mentioned the vagus nerve dies or degenerates in that area

which causes it to lose the rippling motion used to push the

food through. Here are a couple articles that refer to the

inability to get water down.

Surgery for Achalasia

Learning About Health & Illness

I hope this helps.

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Hello aries19ox@...,In reference to your comment:

Can somebody tell me please if it is rare that achalasia sufferers find drinking as difficult as eating?

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> Can somebody tell me please if it is rare that achalasia sufferers

find drinking as difficult as eating? My mother has had achalasia

diagnosed, although from what i read on these pages, most people

find it helps to wash food down with lots of fluid. She is unable

to drink more than half a small cup in 40 minutes so is clearly

different to some others - any ideas?

>

> Jon

>

I had several episodes of not being able to get the liquids through

for several days. Even went to the emergency room and asked for

nitroglycerol (which helped!). It didn't help the second time,

however.

But for the last month I have been surviving on 1:1 mix of

carbonated water and lemonade. For some reason it helps to move down

food and other liquids, like soup or coffee. So I have it now with

every meal, and as long as my meals are soft/blended, I am OK.

I wsa drinking mint tea before, but this mix works much better!

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It hurts me to swallow liquids, not always but yes daily. I also

cannot eat and drink at the same time or I have horrible pain OR the

fluid comes right back up. I think everyone has some degree of this

problem.

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A young man shopping in a supermarket

noticed a little old lady following him around.

If he stopped, she stopped..

Furthermore she kept staring at him.The old lady finally overtook him at the checkout,

And she turned to him and said, "I hope I haven't

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much like my late son.'He answered, 'That's okay.''I know it's silly, but if you'd call out

'Good bye, Mom' as I leave the store,

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And as she was on her way out of the store,

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