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>>> I didn't see a reply in here... maybe something went awry? I'm

> waiting with bated breath and really appreciate all the information!!!

%$#^%&%!!!

My computer glitched and I hit send twice. Apparently it dropped

my 'reply' when the first send didn't take. I totally hate that! I'll

re-do.

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>>> I didn't see a reply in here... maybe something went awry? I'm

> waiting with bated breath and really appreciate all the information!!!

%$#^%&%!!!

My computer glitched and I hit send twice. Apparently it dropped

my 'reply' when the first send didn't take. I totally hate that! I'll

re-do.

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Thanks for re-typing the reply, .

I gave her 1 AFP with her yogurt yesterday afternoon (she usually

has 1/3). About 15 - 20 minutes afterwards, she said she was tired,

needed to rest, was hungry (she also says she's hungry shortly after

taking Candidase - it must mean her stomach is unsettled) and became

cranky, negative and noncompliant. It was a complete turn-around

that lasted a couple hours. Does this sound right? Obviously I can't

give her extra capsules at preschool right away!

It's actually strange - I've given her 1 AFP & 1 Zyme together and

then she hasn't eaten her meal, but don't remember getting this

clear of a response. Might Zyme Prime actually help balance the

effects during the adjustment period?

For her to get over it quickly, would I need to do it 3 times a day

for a couple days, or do you think that once a day for a few days

would do the same thing?

I really appreciate your help!!!!

Cindy

>

> >>>> When I start giving more AFP both with and between meals,

should

> I expect crankiness or regression at first? And how long might it

> > last? Would it happen each time I add an extra capsule to the

tally?

>

> If you saw crankiness or regression when you started SCD, and also

> when you started enzymes, you may see a similar but less intense

> reaction with each increase in enzymes. Going slow helps to

minimize

> this. Generally it takes a day or two to work itself out.

>

>

> > You mentioned " between meals " - would the snacks I mentioned

(1/4 c

> > yogurt, 1/4 c fruit sauce) be considered a meal?

>

> That amount of food is okay. When products say 'on an empty

stomach'

> it rarely means not 1 molecule of food. They usually mean not on a

> full stomach or to the point a major digestive process would start

> (stomach acid input, etc). But a lot of people need juice or a

couple

> crackers or something to even get the supplements or medicines

down.

> What you suggest is quite fine for enzymes between meals.

>

>

> >>>Would it work to give her 2 or 3 capsules of AFP with these

> snacks? Or is it really a waste of good enzymes?!

>

> Not a waste. That would work out just fine.

>

>

> >>>> If I can do it on an empty stomach, what's the timing rule?

> Would the enzymes need a full hour to do their thing before I can

> feed her? Or would 1/2 hour do it? (I'm emptying out the capsules).

>

> Different companies give different timings. Usually 30 minutes to

1

> hour before meals is fine, or 2 hours after meals.

>

>

> >>> Would you give extra Peptizide along with the 2 Candidase at

> night, or is that overkill? I've tried giving 1 Candidase and 1

> Peptizide at bedtime, and she woke up cranky... may be coincidence

> though.

>

> I might try this again. Peptizyde is all proteases, and proteases

are

> supposed to help 'mop up' yeast cell debris and thus reduce die-

off

> reactions. I talked to Enzymedica long time about because their

> literature says that to reduce die off reactions give more

proteases.

> Their recommendation was 2 protease capsules for each 1 Candidase

> (their all protease product is ViraStop for this use). So try at

> least one more time with the Peptizyde and Candidase.

>

> Let me know how it works out.

> .

>

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Thanks for re-typing the reply, .

I gave her 1 AFP with her yogurt yesterday afternoon (she usually

has 1/3). About 15 - 20 minutes afterwards, she said she was tired,

needed to rest, was hungry (she also says she's hungry shortly after

taking Candidase - it must mean her stomach is unsettled) and became

cranky, negative and noncompliant. It was a complete turn-around

that lasted a couple hours. Does this sound right? Obviously I can't

give her extra capsules at preschool right away!

It's actually strange - I've given her 1 AFP & 1 Zyme together and

then she hasn't eaten her meal, but don't remember getting this

clear of a response. Might Zyme Prime actually help balance the

effects during the adjustment period?

For her to get over it quickly, would I need to do it 3 times a day

for a couple days, or do you think that once a day for a few days

would do the same thing?

I really appreciate your help!!!!

Cindy

>

> >>>> When I start giving more AFP both with and between meals,

should

> I expect crankiness or regression at first? And how long might it

> > last? Would it happen each time I add an extra capsule to the

tally?

>

> If you saw crankiness or regression when you started SCD, and also

> when you started enzymes, you may see a similar but less intense

> reaction with each increase in enzymes. Going slow helps to

minimize

> this. Generally it takes a day or two to work itself out.

>

>

> > You mentioned " between meals " - would the snacks I mentioned

(1/4 c

> > yogurt, 1/4 c fruit sauce) be considered a meal?

>

> That amount of food is okay. When products say 'on an empty

stomach'

> it rarely means not 1 molecule of food. They usually mean not on a

> full stomach or to the point a major digestive process would start

> (stomach acid input, etc). But a lot of people need juice or a

couple

> crackers or something to even get the supplements or medicines

down.

> What you suggest is quite fine for enzymes between meals.

>

>

> >>>Would it work to give her 2 or 3 capsules of AFP with these

> snacks? Or is it really a waste of good enzymes?!

>

> Not a waste. That would work out just fine.

>

>

> >>>> If I can do it on an empty stomach, what's the timing rule?

> Would the enzymes need a full hour to do their thing before I can

> feed her? Or would 1/2 hour do it? (I'm emptying out the capsules).

>

> Different companies give different timings. Usually 30 minutes to

1

> hour before meals is fine, or 2 hours after meals.

>

>

> >>> Would you give extra Peptizide along with the 2 Candidase at

> night, or is that overkill? I've tried giving 1 Candidase and 1

> Peptizide at bedtime, and she woke up cranky... may be coincidence

> though.

>

> I might try this again. Peptizyde is all proteases, and proteases

are

> supposed to help 'mop up' yeast cell debris and thus reduce die-

off

> reactions. I talked to Enzymedica long time about because their

> literature says that to reduce die off reactions give more

proteases.

> Their recommendation was 2 protease capsules for each 1 Candidase

> (their all protease product is ViraStop for this use). So try at

> least one more time with the Peptizyde and Candidase.

>

> Let me know how it works out.

> .

>

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Thanks for re-typing the reply, .

I gave her 1 AFP with her yogurt yesterday afternoon (she usually

has 1/3). About 15 - 20 minutes afterwards, she said she was tired,

needed to rest, was hungry (she also says she's hungry shortly after

taking Candidase - it must mean her stomach is unsettled) and became

cranky, negative and noncompliant. It was a complete turn-around

that lasted a couple hours. Does this sound right? Obviously I can't

give her extra capsules at preschool right away!

It's actually strange - I've given her 1 AFP & 1 Zyme together and

then she hasn't eaten her meal, but don't remember getting this

clear of a response. Might Zyme Prime actually help balance the

effects during the adjustment period?

For her to get over it quickly, would I need to do it 3 times a day

for a couple days, or do you think that once a day for a few days

would do the same thing?

I really appreciate your help!!!!

Cindy

>

> >>>> When I start giving more AFP both with and between meals,

should

> I expect crankiness or regression at first? And how long might it

> > last? Would it happen each time I add an extra capsule to the

tally?

>

> If you saw crankiness or regression when you started SCD, and also

> when you started enzymes, you may see a similar but less intense

> reaction with each increase in enzymes. Going slow helps to

minimize

> this. Generally it takes a day or two to work itself out.

>

>

> > You mentioned " between meals " - would the snacks I mentioned

(1/4 c

> > yogurt, 1/4 c fruit sauce) be considered a meal?

>

> That amount of food is okay. When products say 'on an empty

stomach'

> it rarely means not 1 molecule of food. They usually mean not on a

> full stomach or to the point a major digestive process would start

> (stomach acid input, etc). But a lot of people need juice or a

couple

> crackers or something to even get the supplements or medicines

down.

> What you suggest is quite fine for enzymes between meals.

>

>

> >>>Would it work to give her 2 or 3 capsules of AFP with these

> snacks? Or is it really a waste of good enzymes?!

>

> Not a waste. That would work out just fine.

>

>

> >>>> If I can do it on an empty stomach, what's the timing rule?

> Would the enzymes need a full hour to do their thing before I can

> feed her? Or would 1/2 hour do it? (I'm emptying out the capsules).

>

> Different companies give different timings. Usually 30 minutes to

1

> hour before meals is fine, or 2 hours after meals.

>

>

> >>> Would you give extra Peptizide along with the 2 Candidase at

> night, or is that overkill? I've tried giving 1 Candidase and 1

> Peptizide at bedtime, and she woke up cranky... may be coincidence

> though.

>

> I might try this again. Peptizyde is all proteases, and proteases

are

> supposed to help 'mop up' yeast cell debris and thus reduce die-

off

> reactions. I talked to Enzymedica long time about because their

> literature says that to reduce die off reactions give more

proteases.

> Their recommendation was 2 protease capsules for each 1 Candidase

> (their all protease product is ViraStop for this use). So try at

> least one more time with the Peptizyde and Candidase.

>

> Let me know how it works out.

> .

>

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