Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 After everything that I have read I can't get the yeast under control until I get out the mercury. This upsets me with all the effort I have been making with the yeast antifungals. My son was tested once for heavy metals in a blood test which didn't show anything unusual but people tell me that mercury doesn't always show up on testing. Since he has made extremely slow progress, nonverbal becoming more aggressive, medications don't work with him. 7 years old functioning like a one year old, This will be my last frontier. I don't know what else to try. My question is Who does chelation in MA.? Who do you recommend? thanks Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Cathy I don't know who does it in Ma, but check the DAN Doctors on the list. I felt the same way about trying to control yeast. I called these doctors close by and asked them right out . Do you do chelation? You are right it might not show up in hair, urine or blood and that is why it might be so hard to tell. Mercury goes into hiding after the intial exposure, so if your child has had all his shots there is a good chance that he might have some kind of toxicity. The only way to really know is to find a doctor and use the DMSA and check it for heavy metals. Sometimes a hair test will show other metal and certain patterns that exist with metal toxicity. Mainly a higher copper to zinc ratio and there are some counting rules that apply that are posted on the autism/mercury list. There is usually more than just mercury and it seems as if our kids have a predispostion to holding on to metals especially since many of our children are low in glutathione, which is like the garbage truck that comes along and picks up our trash. In many of our kids the garbage truck comes once a month so everything builds up. Why genetic predispostion, envirnmentol toxins, vaccines, low nutritonial status at a specific times. who knows . This is how i think of DMSA. A driveway is filled with peices of metals like mufflers, bumpers, nut and bolts. The DMSA comes along and picks up these pieces like a magnet. Imagine trying to sweep this stuff up , it wouldn't work. I know one thing , the Doctor who does this in Lousianna is having good luck with her son who was/ is autistic and in fact he is off diet doing really great. She is seeing metals coming out of these kids and there was recently a conference to discuss the chelation protocol , treatment, methods etc. I don't think it is one of these fads that we are going through for lack of better wording, I think it might be the biggest piece of the puzzle . So here is the group and you can go there and see what you think. Oh check out the symptoms of autism compared to mercury toxicity you will be amazed at the similarities. kelly autism-mercury > After everything that I have read I can't get the yeast under control until > I > get out the mercury. This upsets me with all the effort I have been making > with the yeast antifungals. My son was tested once for heavy metals in a > blood test which didn't show anything unusual but people tell me that > mercury > doesn't always show up on testing. > Since he has made extremely slow progress, nonverbal becoming more > aggressive, medications don't work with him. 7 years old functioning like a > one year old, This will be my last frontier. I don't know what else to > try. > My question is Who does chelation in MA.? Who do you recommend? thanks > Cathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Kathy, If you know of someone in Mass doing chelation, please pass it on to me as I am also interested. Phyllis ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Kathy, If you know of someone in Mass doing chelation, please pass it on to me as I am also interested. Phyllis ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 I put a post about a month ago asking the same question and I got no response. I don't think anyone knows of someone in this area. Too bad huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 I put a post about a month ago asking the same question and I got no response. I don't think anyone knows of someone in this area. Too bad huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 Alright, I think I'm starting to understand this chelation thing. I usually don't read the posts about it because I have not been ready to try it but it is very interesting to me. Now from what I understand medical insurance does not cover this so how much after all is done does it actually come out too. Also, how is it actually administered? Is it a pill of some sort that you give to your child and it helps to pull out the metals? That's what I don't understand. Do you do it yourself at home or do you have to go to the doctor everytime? I wish I kept the website that had the info. but I didn't so if someone could enlighten me with it that would be great. But I would love to hear what you have to say about it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 - We are on 8th or 9th week (sad, I have lost count) of chelation. WE are doing the 3 day on, 4 day rest cycle. (Some do 4-3, som 3- 11) Lots of protocols. We are giving it every 4 hours, his dosage, by body weight, comes out to about 600mg daily. We added the Alpha lipoic acid at 6 weeks...(which I think makes us at 9 weeks...) Which crosses blood brain barrier. He is doing WONDERFUL. I was told at his science fair Thursday night he will be MAINSTREAMED ALL day by years end! (He is half day right now) His speech has become eloquent, and he seems MUCH less foggy. Even our Dr says he seems as if he's lost his " confusion " He is seeking out children, and playing on age leve;....*BIG SMILES* & thumbs up...we are very happy with this therapy!!!!!!!! Oh, we administer it in Chocolate Jif..he takes it FINE-Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 - We are on 8th or 9th week (sad, I have lost count) of chelation. WE are doing the 3 day on, 4 day rest cycle. (Some do 4-3, som 3- 11) Lots of protocols. We are giving it every 4 hours, his dosage, by body weight, comes out to about 600mg daily. We added the Alpha lipoic acid at 6 weeks...(which I think makes us at 9 weeks...) Which crosses blood brain barrier. He is doing WONDERFUL. I was told at his science fair Thursday night he will be MAINSTREAMED ALL day by years end! (He is half day right now) His speech has become eloquent, and he seems MUCH less foggy. Even our Dr says he seems as if he's lost his " confusion " He is seeking out children, and playing on age leve;....*BIG SMILES* & thumbs up...we are very happy with this therapy!!!!!!!! Oh, we administer it in Chocolate Jif..he takes it FINE-Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 Here's how to get the latest info: go to autism-mercury egroup main page. Click on files in the column to the left of the screen. In the list that comes up, you will find the latest DAN protocol for chelation, including testing, dosage and schedule. Insurance might cover the prescription for DMSA, testing and doctor's appointments. We went outside our HMO, but are getting partial coverage. Children are given medication and supplements on a schedule. A typical one is every 8 hours for three days, followed by 11 days of nutritional supplements. It is given by pill or by mixing the med in a small amount of food. I think some little guys get a suppository form of DMSA. The doctor is seen to start the chelation protocol, with follow-ups as needed. The med is given at home. Testing, usually urinalysis, is done at regular intervals to check on the metals that are being secreted. Dental amalgams must be removed before commencing chelation. That's it in a nutshell. My son and I are on a slow protocol (3 on/11 off, low dose) for almost 5 months. He made some dramatic improvements during the first couple of rounds; slow but continuing progress since then. With mercury and other metal toxicities, the sooner the junk gets out of the tissues, the better. Dr. Holmes is reporting full recoveries for some of the younger patients. Another > Alright, I think I'm starting to understand this chelation thing. I usually > don't read the posts about it because I have not been ready to try it but it > is very interesting to me. Now from what I understand medical insurance does > not cover this so how much after all is done does it actually come out too. > Also, how is it actually administered? Is it a pill of some sort that you > give to your child and it helps to pull out the metals? That's what I don't > understand. Do you do it yourself at home or do you have to go to the doctor > everytime? I wish I kept the website that had the info. but I didn't so if > someone could enlighten me with it that would be great. But I would love to > hear what you have to say about it too. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2001 Report Share Posted February 18, 2001 Hi , this is again. I wish we had Dr. Amy Holmes up here (Mass) she sounds wonderful. You're very lucky to have her. Does it cause the children any pain with this process? It just seems so far fetched but soooooo interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2001 Report Share Posted February 18, 2001 I would love the info on chelation too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2001 Report Share Posted February 18, 2001 I would love the info on chelation too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2001 Report Share Posted February 18, 2001 Hi , I wish I did have Dr. Holmes! Our doctor is tracking her & Bradstreet for chelation advice, but I have to do the research and teach him. No, chelation doesn't hurt. It's just annoying because of the time schedule and all of the supplements on the " days off " . There have been some minor side effects - some rashes, occasional diarrhea, a bit more emotional on the first " off day " (We do 3 on, 11 off.) There have been great benefits to date. I thought the whole mercury issue sounded strange, too, but the danger is more widely recognized nowadays than I had realized before doing a web search. Here are some starting places: www.autism.org, www.gnd.org, " files " on the main page of the autism-mercury egroup, Dr. Amy Holmes's site (sorry, don't have the address), even www.kirkmanlabs.com. barbeetofloyd@a... wrote: > Hi , this is again. I wish we had Dr. Amy Holmes up here (Mass) > she sounds wonderful. You're very lucky to have her. Does it cause the > children any pain with this process? It just seems so far fetched but > soooooo interesting. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 Thank you so much for all that info.. It is really appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 hi just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just using the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid itself of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and brin? thx emma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 theres lots of claims with chelation and you have to be very sceptical the idea that you just take something and mercury or lead is magically removed from the body is not true and the chelation boards ban people like me who point out the truer side of the coin that said i don't think diet is enough the basic rules are zinc displaces heavy metals, selenium passivates them and msm lifts them you can sort mix and match as per my compendium and diet to get an effective chelation these so called chelators like ala, dmsa, dmps are really an idea more than something that works but if you watch the autism mercury message board for a year or two and see how the progress goes forwards and then backwards you will get the picture > hi > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just using > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid itself > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and brin? > > thx > > emma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 TK-- this should be stainless steel which should be fine. > > Is it safe to use DMSA since I have wires under the skin from jaw surgery years ago?I did not know if it would pull the metal from them or not. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 TK-- this should be stainless steel which should be fine. > > Is it safe to use DMSA since I have wires under the skin from jaw surgery years ago?I did not know if it would pull the metal from them or not. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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