Weight Loss

[Guest guest]

I guess it makes sense... just take care of yourself so the cirrhosis

doesn`t progress

you`re in my prayers....

love and serenity

jerry

Ok... thanks

I remember now that when they first thought I had fatty liver they mentioned

weight loss. That was years prior to my diagnosis. Now with cirrhosis its

not anything my doc is concerned about. Actually with the intake of

prednisone he (gastro doc) would prefer I have some weight on my body to

help build some bone density (if that makes sense). Thanks a bunch.

P.S. thanks for the INFO JERRY on Fatty liver and cirrhosis.

Jen

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:02:07 EST, wrote:

> Hi Jen.. You see my doctors think that Steohepatitis is what caused my

> Cirrohsis.. That is fatty liver.. Also I have AIH.. So he is thinking if

I

> lose the weight then maybe that will stop from getting more fat built up

in

> my liver..

> I don't actually think it will slow down the progression.. But the extra

fat

> will just speed it up.. Am I making since?? I go to a Hepatologist in a

> Major Hospital in Peoria, IL March 27th..So he'll be able to tell me

more..

> Hope this has cleared some stuff up.. Believe me, I'm just as confused as

you

> are.. lol

>

> Hugs,

> Deb

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In a message dated 3/1/01 5:19:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, jcando@... writes:

Well Harper, its not like I'm, stuffing oreo's with double stuff down my

throat to build bone.

My comment was only to show that weight loss may be effective for those with

fatty liver vs those with cirrhosis.

Jen

Sigh, I guess I'd really rather talk about Oreos than livers.

Harper

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Thank You SO much for the support!!!

Hugs,

Deb

[Guest guest]

Well Harper, its not like I'm, stuffing oreo's with double stuff down my

throat to build bone.

My comment was only to show that weight loss may be effective for those with

fatty liver vs those with cirrhosis.

Jen

On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:56:37 EST, wrote:

> Jen, be very, very certain you're understanding correctly about having

" some

> weight on your body to build bone density. " I believe there are methods

that

> are probably safer and more effective to deal with bone density.

> Harper

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Yes Pearl!

What is your blood type? I follow Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type, When I first

started it, I

started to have a bad reaction to the fruit and grains I was eating, Then like

the book

say's your body will start to heal its self one eating the right foods for your

blood type.

So after 1 1/2 weeks I started getting better and better and no visible signs of

my

candidia (had ringworm break outs really bad). I have never felt better,

something to think

about.

Laurie

PEARLY2@... wrote:

> I am not sure if anyone answered this before, so forgive m if you have.

> I am trying to lose weight. I have cut back severely on what I eat. I am

> drinking water and walking.I have cut out the carbs, except for a little

> bit of brown rice. I have not lost an ounce. Could the candida be

> preventing me from a weight loss?

>

> Pearl (NY)

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You know...I am not sure what my blood type is. I am embarrassed LOL !

Pearl (NY)

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Yes Pearl!

What is your blood type? I follow Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type, When I first

started it, I

started to have a bad reaction to the fruit and grains I was eating, Then like

the book

say's your body will start to heal its self one eating the right foods for your

blood type.

So after 1 1/2 weeks I started getting better and better and no visible signs of

my

candidia (had ringworm break outs really bad). I have never felt better,

something to think

about.

Laurie

PEARLY2@... wrote:

> I am not sure if anyone answered this before, so forgive m if you have.

> I am trying to lose weight. I have cut back severely on what I eat. I am

> drinking water and walking.I have cut out the carbs, except for a little

> bit of brown rice. I have not lost an ounce. Could the candida be

> preventing me from a weight loss?

>

> Pearl (NY)

>

>

> Country Living at it's finest

> Countrylife

>

>

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I used to follow ERFYT too and did really well on it. How do you

marry that with the candida diet? Some of the foods I would be

allowed to eat as a type O I cannot eat according to the candida

diet. Does the book say anything about candida? I leant mine to a

friend and havent been able to look it up.

Amy

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Hi Amy,

go to www.dadamo.com , there's a place where you can read questions and answers,

or you can

leave a question for Dr. D'Adamo, I read something about a O with candida but

can't

remember other then using probiotics, and following the guide line of the diet.

Laurie

mausketeers@... wrote:

> I used to follow ERFYT too and did really well on it. How do you

> marry that with the candida diet? Some of the foods I would be

> allowed to eat as a type O I cannot eat according to the candida

> diet. Does the book say anything about candida? I leant mine to a

> friend and havent been able to look it up.

>

> Amy

>

>

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Don't feel bad. I don't think you can help but lose weight with this diet. I

have lost about 25 lbs. but so far for the past month I have been staying

the same and not losing any more weight.

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remove me

Thelma Jopanda

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Hi ,

Remember that muscle weighs more than fat, so when you are building

muscles, your weight may not go down as fast.

Have you considered the quality of your protein? Have you considered

the quality of all of your calories? Have you increased your daily

fiber intake? Have you decreased your fat intake?

> Since 9/2001 I have lost 55 pounds, thats also with strength

> training at the gym 3-5x a week plus 30 min cardio. 52 " waist to a

> 42 " although now having to use the belt again. Diet has changed

> somewhat, I more monitor calories but still like to enjoy steak and

> potatoes on the weekend, cant be good all of the time! I have gone

> from 40% body fat to 23% as of a month ago. So as you can tell it

> takes quite some time to start losing the weight and feeling

better,

> I suppose we are all different and the effects may effect some

sooner

> then others.

Increased levels of testosterone aren't the total answer to anyone's

total health. There are many other factors to consider. For me,

nutrition has been the best route, much better than what the HRT did

for me.

> As far as the effects of HRT I really didnt start feeling better (I

> had a hard time maintaining an erection and couldnt seem to get my

> wife pregnant were my main symptoms) for several months after

> starting treatment. Now I can maintain an erection allot easier and

> have sex 4x a week and mastarbate daily.

>

> In all it seems to take time for these things. Believe me it takes

> allot of patients to get the results your looking for. I want to

lose

> another 40 pounds, I know its going to be hard and take some time,

> but I know that if I dont think to much about it and maintain

therapy

Think about your goal of losing weight every day. Visualize yourself

at your desired weight. You have started on a good path, keep it up.

> that it will all come in time. Now if I could just get the mrs

> pregnant!

For me, I finally had to accept the fact when at the time, it was

impossible for me to biologically father a child. With the

technology that exists today, I feel that possibly I could have

fathered a child. We are past that time in our life and enjoy our

grandsons. If my wife and I wouldn't have wanted children, the

chances of me being DXed with Klinefelter Syndrome would have been

very slim if at all.

HAVE A GREAT DAY!

Ivan

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Hi Ivan,

Thanks for the advice. I apologize if I made it sound like HRT was

the great miracle weight loss substance, it isn't. It may have been

an inadvertent tool in my weight loss process. However a great deal

of my early success is the fact that I did allot of exercise combined

with diet. I of course have certainly taken into account the

quality/quantity of proteins(whey and soy mainly), fats

(unsaturated), caloric and fiber intake (veggies plus fiber

supplements.). That I feel is where allot of people begin to fail in

weight loss efforts. Really good advice to suggest, looking at those

aspects.

With the muscle I have gained and the weight I have lost I probably

have lost closer to 70 pounds. You're absolutely right, muscle does

weigh more then fat. At first this was a discouraging aspect when it

seemed I couldn't lose but a couple pounds. My personal trainer was

very supportive and helpful in aiding me. He taught me about eating

clean, strength and cardio training. Although he insisted that I

learn to pose, lol, that wasn't going to happen!

Thank you for your advice and I truly appreciate your comments. Very

helpful and insightful.

Take care,

> Hi ,

>

> Remember that muscle weighs more than fat, so when you are building

> muscles, your weight may not go down as fast.

>

> Have you considered the quality of your protein? Have you

considered

> the quality of all of your calories? Have you increased your daily

> fiber intake? Have you decreased your fat intake?

>

> > Since 9/2001 I have lost 55 pounds, thats also with strength

> > training at the gym 3-5x a week plus 30 min cardio. 52 " waist to

a

> > 42 " although now having to use the belt again. Diet has changed

> > somewhat, I more monitor calories but still like to enjoy steak

and

> > potatoes on the weekend, cant be good all of the time! I have

gone

> > from 40% body fat to 23% as of a month ago. So as you can tell it

> > takes quite some time to start losing the weight and feeling

> better,

> > I suppose we are all different and the effects may effect some

> sooner

> > then others.

>

> Increased levels of testosterone aren't the total answer to

anyone's

> total health. There are many other factors to consider. For me,

> nutrition has been the best route, much better than what the HRT

did

> for me.

>

> > As far as the effects of HRT I really didnt start feeling better

(I

> > had a hard time maintaining an erection and couldnt seem to get

my

> > wife pregnant were my main symptoms) for several months after

> > starting treatment. Now I can maintain an erection allot easier

and

> > have sex 4x a week and mastarbate daily.

> >

> > In all it seems to take time for these things. Believe me it

takes

> > allot of patients to get the results your looking for. I want to

> lose

> > another 40 pounds, I know its going to be hard and take some

time,

> > but I know that if I dont think to much about it and maintain

> therapy

>

> Think about your goal of losing weight every day. Visualize

yourself

> at your desired weight. You have started on a good path, keep it

up.

>

> > that it will all come in time. Now if I could just get the mrs

> > pregnant!

>

> For me, I finally had to accept the fact when at the time, it was

> impossible for me to biologically father a child. With the

> technology that exists today, I feel that possibly I could have

> fathered a child. We are past that time in our life and enjoy our

> grandsons. If my wife and I wouldn't have wanted children, the

> chances of me being DXed with Klinefelter Syndrome would have been

> very slim if at all.

>

> HAVE A GREAT DAY!

> Ivan

[Guest guest]

> Hi Ivan,

> Thanks for the advice. I apologize if I made it sound like HRT was

> the great miracle weight loss substance, it isn't. It may have been

> an inadvertent tool in my weight loss process.

>snip<

Hi ,

You are very much welcome.

HAVE A GREAT DAY!

Ivan

[Guest guest]

I feel a need to relate my experiences concerning weight loss with TRT.

While technically, I did not lose weight...my gut, which overhung my

beltline by a few inches....is gone.

I attribute this to the hormone therapy...as my diet, which is quite good,

and has been in place for 10+ years was unchanged. My exercise pattern has

remained unchanged, in place for 3 years.

The only variable is my much higher T level. As mentioned earlier

above...my weight is still around 230. My BMI has changed.

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I think the real key issue here is BMI. That is what I am seeing change.

My body fat percentage must have been really high. I had baby fat on

every part of my body. I even have cellulite on my inner thighs and

butt. Gah. That is already nearly all gone. But I am seeing more and

more noticeable signs that it is burning off in all places at once.

I think it really comes down to building muscle, which is what the hCG

and AG are doing for me. My arms are nearly twice as big and

well-defined than when I started. Muscle requires more energy to support

it, therefore it is burning more fat. I have been surprised by how

little exercise I have had to do. I ride about 22 miles 2-3 times a week

and then rollerblade for an hour when I get the chance. The more I do,

the faster the burn off, the better I feel and the more I can handle the

next time I exercise.

I have stopped watching the scale, I am not concerned with weight

anymore, just BMI and the way I look and feel. I have actually even

gained another 12 pounds the last time I checked. This scared me at

first because I know that these medicines are actually anabolics, which

will turn into fat if you don't workout.

So basically, get your T levels up, workout as much as you can without

injuring yourself, take vitamins, eat protein and you should start to

notice a positive change.

I was bled last night, 7 vials. I will have copies of my numbers to

share with all of you on Monday, I hope. That is when I see my

endocrinologist.

Best of luck and never give up!

Connery

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" We must always strive to do the things we think we cannot do. " -Eleanor

Roosevelt

Re: Re: Weight Loss

I feel a need to relate my experiences concerning weight loss with TRT.

While technically, I did not lose weight...my gut, which overhung my

beltline by a few inches....is gone.

I attribute this to the hormone therapy...as my diet, which is quite

good,

and has been in place for 10+ years was unchanged. My exercise pattern

has

remained unchanged, in place for 3 years.

The only variable is my much higher T level. As mentioned earlier

above...my weight is still around 230. My BMI has changed.

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The main thing is, so long as you're eating healthy (which, if you're on

the candida diet, you definitely are!), and so long as you're not going

hungry. Eat until you've had enough, but not until you've had too much!

The exercise will raise your metabolism, gradually burn fat, get oxygen

into your tissues and therefore help to kill the candida too! Every second

day (ie, 3 - 4 times a week) is enough to get your fitness level up and

burn fat, and allows you to have those important 'rest days' in between -

otherwise, believe me, you'll get sick of having to drag yourself to the

gym every day - having rest days then makes you look forward to the next

time you go there!

Good luck and enjoy getting fit!

Ali

>Thank you Ali!! )

>I intend to start going to the gym every day starting next week. Now that

>I feel good enough! Maybe that's all I need. That would be wonderful!! )

>

> in CA

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Yes, but if someone is " stuck " now with a slow metabolism, they need to

eat fewer calories than what they were eating before. And, building

muscle is the way to increase metabolism so you are able to increase the

amt. that you eat.....

Mic

> The main thing is, so long as you're eating healthy (which, if you're on

>the candida diet, you definitely are!), and so long as you're not going

>hungry. Eat until you've had enough, but not until you've had too much!

>

>The exercise will raise your metabolism, gradually burn fat, get oxygen

>into your tissues and therefore help to kill the candida too! Every

>second

>day (ie, 3 - 4 times a week) is enough to get your fitness level up and

>burn fat, and allows you to have those important 'rest days' in between -

>otherwise, believe me, you'll get sick of having to drag yourself to the

>gym every day - having rest days then makes you look forward to the next

>time you go there!

>

>Good luck and enjoy getting fit!

[Guest guest]

I have to chime in on this, but all metabolic studies here( in the

US) show that you don't necessarily eat less, you eat smaller

portions more often. The eating less is what threw the metabolism

into the " starvation mode " . Fat burns 2 calories, muscle burns

approx. 52 calories. Also, if you eat no more than 300 calories per

meal, every 21/2 hours, your body should be able to process this

without sending everything into fat storage via insulin. The same

types of studies show that 10 minutes of exercise, 3 times a day,

will provide approximately the same cardio benefit (not necessarily

fat burning benefits) at 30 minutes in one session, daily. This

works for any type of exercise. They will all provide oxygen to

your cells and weight lifting can be an extremely cardiovascular

workout, depending on the weight and timing of your session.

If you are increasing your calories but the calorie increase is in

the form of vegetables, especially negative calorie vegetables, your

metabolism is less likely to go into starvation mode and force

unneeded calories into fat storage for future use.

> Yes, but if someone is " stuck " now with a slow metabolism, they

need to

> eat fewer calories than what they were eating before. And,

building

> muscle is the way to increase metabolism so you are able to

increase the

> amt. that you eat.....

>

> Mic

>

>

> > The main thing is, so long as you're eating healthy (which, if

you're on

> >the candida diet, you definitely are!), and so long as you're not

going

> >hungry. Eat until you've had enough, but not until you've had too

much!

> >

> >The exercise will raise your metabolism, gradually burn fat, get

oxygen

> >into your tissues and therefore help to kill the candida too!

Every

> >second

> >day (ie, 3 - 4 times a week) is enough to get your fitness level

up and

> >burn fat, and allows you to have those important 'rest days' in

between -

> >otherwise, believe me, you'll get sick of having to drag yourself

to the

> >gym every day - having rest days then makes you look forward to

the next

> >time you go there!

> >

> >Good luck and enjoy getting fit!

[Guest guest]

agreed!

>If you are increasing your calories but the calorie increase is in

>the form of vegetables, especially negative calorie vegetables, your

>metabolism is less likely to go into starvation mode and force

>unneeded calories into fat storage for future use.

[Guest guest]

thank you Ali!

You know alot about exercise! ) I like the rest day idea! )

in CA

[Guest guest]

Negative calorie vegetables? I'm intrigued......

> > Yes, but if someone is " stuck " now with a slow metabolism, they

> need to

> > eat fewer calories than what they were eating before. And,

> building

> > muscle is the way to increase metabolism so you are able to

> increase the

> > amt. that you eat.....

> >

> > Mic

> >

> >

> > > The main thing is, so long as you're eating healthy (which, if

> you're on

> > >the candida diet, you definitely are!), and so long as you're

not

> going

> > >hungry. Eat until you've had enough, but not until you've had

too

> much!

> > >

> > >The exercise will raise your metabolism, gradually burn fat, get

> oxygen

> > >into your tissues and therefore help to kill the candida too!

> Every

> > >second

> > >day (ie, 3 - 4 times a week) is enough to get your fitness level

> up and

> > >burn fat, and allows you to have those important 'rest days' in

> between -

> > >otherwise, believe me, you'll get sick of having to drag

yourself

> to the

> > >gym every day - having rest days then makes you look forward to

> the next

> > >time you go there!

> > >

> > >Good luck and enjoy getting fit!

[Guest guest]

Celery, for example... It takes more energy to eat the celery than what

it's worth in calories......

Mic

> Negative calorie vegetables?† I'm intrigued......

[Guest guest]

Mic,

Where can I get a list of negative calorie vegetables?

> Celery, for example... It takes more energy to eat the celery than

what

> it's worth in calories......

>

> Mic

>

>

>

>

> > Negative calorie vegetables?† I'm intrigued......

[Guest guest]

,

I'm not sure. Most veggies are so low in calories. Lettuce and celery

have virtually no calories at all. Most vegetables that are really low in

carbs are also very low in caloric content.

Mic

> Mic,

>

>Where can I get a list of negative calorie vegetables?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

There is an entire list of them, and a book that someone wrote with a

full diet.

Basically, you are eating things like artichokes, cucumbers, lettuce

and some others, that require more calories for your body to digest

than the food contains. It puts you in a deficit category for

input/output.

I haven't bought the book, but did some research on the idea and some

of the stories are pretty funny. Basically, a lot of people that

didn't believe in the idea, tried the diet and it worked. Because it

is a primarily vegetable book, it would probably work with Candida.

On the upside, the book may have some interesting recipes in it.

> > I have to chime in on this, but all metabolic studies here( in

the

> > US) show that you don't necessarily eat less, you eat smaller

> > portions more often. The eating less is what threw the

metabolism

> > into the " starvation mode " . Fat burns 2 calories, muscle burns

> > approx. 52 calories. Also, if you eat no more than 300 calories

> per

> > meal, every 21/2 hours, your body should be able to process this

> > without sending everything into fat storage via insulin. The

same

>