Weight Loss

[Guest guest]

It's going well for me.. I've lost 105 pounds (125 to

go). I follow the plan with a minor deviation in that

I eat a different calorie level and ratio for weight

loss.

I also don't eat butter even though it's allowed as I

find it causes trouble with my weight loss. I also

can't eat cooked carrots but I can eat them raw.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Liane Hogan <liane@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I know Bee lost an awfully large amount of weight

> while following this,

> and I'm assuming you pretty much, MUST lose weight

> as there are

> practically no carbs to trigger your body to store

> the fat. I was just

> wondering if anyone on the larger side (I have about

> 40kgs [90lbs ??] to

> lose) could let me know how they are going and what

> to expect. I'm

> trying to look at this from just the health point of

> view, but it would

> be nice to know what sort of weight loss occurs, the

> added bonus!

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[Guest guest]

--- jade13starr <jade13starr@...> wrote:

> Has anyone lost a lot of weight (20+ lbs) on the

> candida diet. I lost

> 8lbs in two weeks. I read somewhere that lots of

> people lose tons of

> weight because they've eliminated sugar and gluten

> products.

I've lost 120 pounds, and have 110 more to go. But of

course in my case I needed to lose weight.

> Should I expect to lose more?

That depends entirely on your body. Your weight will

normalize to where ever it is supposed to be through

this process, although you will probably lose weight

if you need to and will stop when you get where you

are supposed to be.

If you don't need to lose weight you will probably

lose, get fairly thin, then get back to normal.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

> > Has anyone lost a lot of weight (20+ lbs) on the

> > candida diet. I lost

> > 8lbs in two weeks. I read somewhere that lots of

> > people lose tons of

> > weight because they've eliminated sugar and gluten

> > products.

I think I lost abt 15 lbs the 1st 2 weeks. Now I've lost abt another

10 lbs.

> If you don't need to lose weight you will probably

> lose, get fairly thin, then get back to normal.

I can't wait to get back to normal!

Gail

[Guest guest]

I've lost about 8 pounds in 3 weeks, dh has lost almost 20 -- we both needed

to lose so this is good

June in rainy SD

>

> > Has anyone lost a lot of weight (20+ lbs) on the

> > candida diet. I lost

> > 8lbs in two weeks. I read somewhere that lots of

> > people lose tons of

> > weight because they've eliminated sugar and gluten

> > products.

>

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Personally I have lost 75+ pounds in almost 8 months...but then I needed to lose

that and more. I know Debby, one of the moderators, has lost over 100 pounds so

far.

Some people complain because of the weight loss because they were thinner to

start with. But it does seem that everyone loses some at first.

Ellen

[ ] Weight Loss

Has anyone lost a lot of weight (20+ lbs) on the candida diet. I lost

8lbs in two weeks. I read somewhere that lots of people lose tons of

weight because they've eliminated sugar and gluten products.

Should I expect to lose more?

[Guest guest]

I am of the opposite crowd. I haven't lost or gained anything! I'm mildly

frustrated at it. I'm only about 10-15 pounds overweight in my estimation,

but I thought that by giving up all that sugar I was eating I'd lose

*something!* It's been 3 weeks since starting this diet. I was already

grain free (except my gluten free cookies) and dairy free going in, but I

was eating about 9 cookies (a box) a day!

Marla

On 10/10/06, Tiger Lily <mysweettiger@...> wrote:

>

> Personally I have lost 75+ pounds in almost 8 months...but then I needed

> to lose that and more. I know Debby, one of the moderators, has lost over

> 100 pounds so far.

>

> Some people complain because of the weight loss because they were thinner

> to start with. But it does seem that everyone loses some at first.

> Ellen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marla:

I've been on Bee's diet for months and haven't lost an ounce either - and

like you, I would be delighted to lose about 15 pounds. However, I think in

my case, it's the fact that my thyroid is out of whack at the moment (low

body temp, etc). I've read in various places that it's almost impossible to

lose weight if you are hypothyroid.

Perhaps Bee would like to comment on that.

Cheers

com] On Behalf Of Marla

Sent: October 11, 2006 2:28 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Weight Loss

I am of the opposite crowd. I haven't lost or gained anything! I'm mildly

frustrated at it. I'm only about 10-15 pounds overweight in my estimation,

but I thought that by giving up all that sugar I was eating I'd lose

*something!* It's been 3 weeks since starting this diet.

[Guest guest]

Hi Penny,

Hummm...that is interesting. My thyroid has been out of whack off and on

over the years. My body temps have been good lately, but I'm the one who

keeps forgetting to take my temp (and I just ordered that nifty thermometer

with an alarm and a memory!)

I do know that coconut oil is supposed to be very helpful to the thyroid, so

I make sure to get my daily 6 T.

Oh well for me - we'll be ttc in about two weeks! It's nice to know I'm not

the only one not losing.

Cheers!

Marla

On 10/11/06, Penny <penelopea@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Marla:

>

> I've been on Bee's diet for months and haven't lost an ounce either - and

> like you, I would be delighted to lose about 15 pounds. However, I think

> in

> my case, it's the fact that my thyroid is out of whack at the moment (low

> body temp, etc). I've read in various places that it's almost impossible

> to

> lose weight if you are hypothyroid.

>

> Perhaps Bee would like to comment on that.

>

> Cheers

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Hi Marla:

>

> I've been on Bee's diet for months and haven't lost an ounce either -

and like you, I would be delighted to lose about 15 pounds.

However, I think in my case, it's the fact that my thyroid is out of

whack at the moment (low body temp, etc). I've read in various places

that it's almost impossible to lose weight if you are hypothyroid.

Perhaps Bee would like to comment on that.

Hi Penny, low thyroid function can mean you'd have difficulty losing

weight see this reference: http://www.drrind.com/scorecard.asp.

Hopefully you are taking liquid chlorophyll made from alfalfa, ocean

sea salt and butter which all provide iodine which is important for

the thyroid.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Penny,

>

> Hummm...that is interesting. My thyroid has been out of whack off and on

> over the years. My body temps have been good lately, but I'm the one who

> keeps forgetting to take my temp (and I just ordered that nifty thermometer

> with an alarm and a memory!)

>

> I do know that coconut oil is supposed to be very helpful to the thyroid, so

> I make sure to get my daily 6 T.

>

> Oh well for me - we'll be ttc in about two weeks! It's nice to know I'm not

> the only one not losing.

>

> Cheers!

> Marla

Penny & Marla -

Just wanted to let you both know that I also have thyroid problems and have

actually been

gaining while on this program. In reality it is more like my weight is

shifting, because the

scales haven't changed much, but I am having to buy new pants because everything

is so

tight. I am small anyway and my upper body has actually stayed the same. I am

assuming

this is all due to my thyroid and my adrenal problems. I know my metabolism is

messed

up because even when I had the stomach bug and didn't eat, I actually got

bigger. Now I

try to make sure I eat enough, so my body does not go into starvation mode and

retain

more fat.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Do you have any other

explanation for

this Bee?

Also, usually if I begin to feel a bit better, the weight gain will stop, but

when I don't feel

well (which is more often than not), I start retaining fat. If I would have

gone on Bee's diet

2 years ago, I would have lost so much weight, but now it is the opposite.

I did read a book by Dr. Schwarzbein who is an endocrinologist. She

advocates low-

carb eating to heal your metabolism (adrenals, insulin) etc. She says that if

you have a

damaged metabolism you may either gain fat or not lose until you are healed.

Then when

you are well, you will burn fat if you need to and get to your ideal body

composition. I

know having candida will just make it worse too. Just my thoughts and a good

motivation

to continue on the program in order to heal.

Trish

[Guest guest]

--- Marla <busykitchen@...> wrote:

> I am of the opposite crowd. I haven't lost or

> gained anything! I'm mildly

> frustrated at it. I'm only about 10-15 pounds

> overweight in my estimation,

> but I thought that by giving up all that sugar I was

> eating I'd lose

> *something!* It's been 3 weeks since starting this

> diet. I was already

> grain free (except my gluten free cookies) and dairy

> free going in, but I

> was eating about 9 cookies (a box) a day!

>

> Marla

Marla,

Those last pounds are very slow to come off. Also you

might need to change your ratios a bit for weight loss

(won't affect you curing your candida) or try rotating

your foods a bit to see which ones work best with your

body. If you want I can work with you to see if

there's anything you can tweak in your plan.. just

feel free to email me privately.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

> Penny & Marla -

>

> Just wanted to let you both know that I also have thyroid problems

and have actually been gaining while on this program. In reality it

is more like my weight is shifting, because the scales haven't

changed much, but I am having to buy new pants because everything is

so tight. I am small anyway and my upper body has actually stayed

the same. I am assuming this is all due to my thyroid and my adrenal

problems. I know my metabolism is messed up because even when I had

the stomach bug and didn't eat, I actually got bigger. Now I try to

make sure I eat enough, so my body does not go into starvation mode

and retain more fat.

>

> Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Do you have any

other explanation for this Bee?

==>Yes I can explain it. Your body creates fat to store toxins away

from vital inner organs; the more toxins the more fat. I think it

will make a difference when your cells are structure the way they are

supposed to be, most should be at least 50% saturated fat. I heard

somewhere (can't find my reference) that it can take up to 4 years to

change cells. The cells in the lungs need even more saturated fat.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Jules, if you attend to the reflux, which is probably hypochlorhydria,

you'll be able to keep food down.

The best and most assimilable healing food even to a damaged bowel and

poor stomach acid content is undenatured whey. Of the undenatured

whey, the Jarrow concentrate will be higher than most in glutamine,

which feeds the bowel lining cells and allows them to regenerate,

reducing leaky gut. Undenatured whey is also specifically indicated in

the PDR for weight loss and production of the antioxidant glutathione.

Always use selenium supplements with it for glutathione production.

Here's the direct link to Jarrow whey; it's on sale:

http://tinyurl.com/yj8nop

Here's the direct selenium link:

http://tinyurl.com/yfgboy

Inulin will help change the ecology to a more beneficial one and the

better ecology will also feed the bowel lining its essential fatty

acid, butyrate.

Here's the direct inulin link:

http://tinyurl.com/8ao2j

Duncan

>

> Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I've been diagnosed with

> Candida and Leaky Gut. It's difficult trying to balance diet between

> the two. My main concern is weight loss. I'm not that big to begin

> with and I've lost 24 pounds since early September. Is this the

norm?

> If I lose any more weight I'll look anorexic. Acid Reflux is a

problem

> for me, so it makes it difficult to supplement with weightier foods.

> Any advice, please?

>

> Thank you.

> Jules

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Duncan. I'm quite lactose intolerant. Would it be a problem

using the undenatured whey? I've never heard of it before.

Jules

> >

> > Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I've been diagnosed with

> > Candida and Leaky Gut. It's difficult trying to balance diet

between

> > the two. My main concern is weight loss. I'm not that big to

begin

> > with and I've lost 24 pounds since early September. Is this the

> norm?

> > If I lose any more weight I'll look anorexic. Acid Reflux is a

> problem

> > for me, so it makes it difficult to supplement with weightier

foods.

> > Any advice, please?

> >

> > Thank you.

> > Jules

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jules, lactose intolerance is not an issue once your bowel dysbiosis

is corrected, as the probiotic organisms eat the lactose before it

causes indigestion.

Nearly all of the lactose has been removed from undenatured whey

anyway but wheys do vary between factories from less than a gram to 2

grams in a 36-gram dose.

The other thing worth repeating is the possible need to address

hypochlorhydria, insufficient stomach acidity, which is a major cause

of dysbiosis and once you have dysbiosis the nutrient malabsorption

leads to hypochlorhydria. We've discussed increasing stomach acidity

with betaine HCl in the past and also using the mineral zinc, vitamin

b-complex and a few other supplements that correct stomach acid

production; I think you'll find the info in a search in the archives.

Duncan

> > >

> > > Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I've been diagnosed

with

> > > Candida and Leaky Gut. It's difficult trying to balance diet

> between

> > > the two. My main concern is weight loss. I'm not that big to

> begin

> > > with and I've lost 24 pounds since early September. Is this the

> > norm?

> > > If I lose any more weight I'll look anorexic. Acid Reflux is a

> > problem

> > > for me, so it makes it difficult to supplement with weightier

> foods.

> > > Any advice, please?

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > > Jules

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I have a similar problem with the weight issue. The problem is, the

very reason you're in this condition is probably the candida in the

first place, which causes so many other problems. And then it makes you

unable to have certain things, so you may have to put up with being

underweight until you have it under control, then you start aborbing

more nutrients and gaining more weight.

Alot of people lose more weight in the early stages before weight

starts to go back on.

You have to be vigilant with the diet, but I have found the the

inclusion of healthy fats have enabled me to gain more weight. LIke

having butter, extra virgin olive oil, organic coconut oil, lard, etc

etc. Eating, cooking with them and it seems I can fill out more.

I don't know if you can handle eating eggs or meat, but you mentioned

heavier things you'renot able to tolerate... can you take any

supplements to help build you up? Like dessicated liver (for B compex,

plus it's natural), bone meal supplements? Just a thought.

.

>

>

Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I've been diagnosed with

> Candida and Leaky Gut. It's difficult trying to balance diet between

> the two. My main concern is weight loss. I'm not that big to begin

> with and I've lost 24 pounds since early September. Is this the norm?

> If I lose any more weight I'll look anorexic. Acid Reflux is a

problem

> for me, so it makes it difficult to supplement with weightier foods.

> Any advice, please?

>

> Thank you.

> Jules

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan, if I had hypochlorhydria, wouldn't using apple cider vinegar

help, rather than harm? I took an apple cider vinegar capsule last

week and it screwed up my stomach and gut for serveral days...flaring

up my acid reflux again. I was back to choking on acid for a while

there, but it has since subsided.

And how would I know if my bowel dysbiosis is corrected enough to

even tolerate the whey? I'm still having serious food issues related

not only to intolerance, but also anything related to oils, butter

and protein fat. I'm surprised I can tolerate the almond milk I've

been making and am relying on that to help fatten myself up a little

with.

What about Hemp? I bought a packet of Hemp protein to try that I'll

add to a glass of almond milk.

Thanks,

Jules.

-- In candidiasis , " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...>

wrote:

>

> Jules, lactose intolerance is not an issue once your bowel

dysbiosis

> is corrected, as the probiotic organisms eat the lactose before it

> causes indigestion.

>

> Nearly all of the lactose has been removed from undenatured whey

> anyway but wheys do vary between factories from less than a gram to

2

> grams in a 36-gram dose.

>

> The other thing worth repeating is the possible need to address

> hypochlorhydria, insufficient stomach acidity, which is a major

cause

> of dysbiosis and once you have dysbiosis the nutrient malabsorption

> leads to hypochlorhydria. We've discussed increasing stomach

acidity

> with betaine HCl in the past and also using the mineral zinc,

vitamin

> b-complex and a few other supplements that correct stomach acid

> production; I think you'll find the info in a search in the

archives.

>

> Duncan

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I've been diagnosed

> with

> > > > Candida and Leaky Gut. It's difficult trying to balance diet

> > between

> > > > the two. My main concern is weight loss. I'm not that big to

> > begin

> > > > with and I've lost 24 pounds since early September. Is this

the

> > > norm?

> > > > If I lose any more weight I'll look anorexic. Acid Reflux is

a

> > > problem

> > > > for me, so it makes it difficult to supplement with weightier

> > foods.

> > > > Any advice, please?

> > > >

> > > > Thank you.

> > > > Jules

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Unfortunately, due to the Leaky Gut I'm unable to tolerate butter and

any fats right now. I tried some extra virgin coconut oil and my

gut's just not ready for it yet. I've been able to start using almond

milk that I've been making, and I hope that's a sign of better things

to come. When I tried it several weeks back it was a no-no. So I

guess it's just a matter of time...I need to be patient and set more

realistic goals for myself.

My TCM suggested I try making pancakes with quinoa flour I have,

altho I'm not sure what would happen with an egg in there. I haven't

tried eggs yet.

You're right tho. I'll just have to put up with being underweight

till I get things under control. It took a long time to get this way

and it won't improve overnight.

Thanks for sharing. It's helpful to know I'm not alone with this. You

people here are a godsend.

Jules

>

> Hi there,

>

> I have a similar problem with the weight issue. The problem is,

the

> very reason you're in this condition is probably the candida in the

> first place, which causes so many other problems. And then it makes

you

> unable to have certain things, so you may have to put up with being

> underweight until you have it under control, then you start

aborbing

> more nutrients and gaining more weight.

>

> Alot of people lose more weight in the early stages before weight

> starts to go back on.

>

> You have to be vigilant with the diet, but I have found the the

> inclusion of healthy fats have enabled me to gain more weight.

LIke

> having butter, extra virgin olive oil, organic coconut oil, lard,

etc

> etc. Eating, cooking with them and it seems I can fill out more.

>

> I don't know if you can handle eating eggs or meat, but you

mentioned

> heavier things you'renot able to tolerate... can you take any

> supplements to help build you up? Like dessicated liver (for B

compex,

> plus it's natural), bone meal supplements? Just a thought.

>

> .

> >

> >

>

> Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I've been diagnosed with

> > Candida and Leaky Gut. It's difficult trying to balance diet

between

> > the two. My main concern is weight loss. I'm not that big to

begin

> > with and I've lost 24 pounds since early September. Is this the

norm?

> > If I lose any more weight I'll look anorexic. Acid Reflux is a

> problem

> > for me, so it makes it difficult to supplement with weightier

foods.

> > Any advice, please?

> >

> > Thank you.

> > Jules

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jules

Try not to get sucked into the undenatured whey sell been there done

that - I cannot use any undenatured wheys myself as I am intolerant

to casein - look at the work of Dr twogood he says to avoid

ALL dairy for pain and many other things wheys included. I tried for

years with undenatured wheys (three different brands) they make me

really really sick every time (casein is in them) i do not agree that

whey works well for many people infact it can make them very very sick

me included. Since I stopped taking undenatured wheys and ALL diary

and used other things I am much better.

Look at the work of Dr. Twogood.

Indians for reflux chew a Cardamom Pod much cheaper than wasting

money on many other things.

[Guest guest]

I'm going to take your word for it, altho I will check into the work

of Dr. Twogood. I've had nothing but trouble with dairy of any

form all my life, and after this experience with Candida/Leaky Gut, I

swear I'll never touch it again. I'll stick to Rice Dream frozen

treats and make my own almond/nut milks from this day on. I'll never

get this sick again!

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.

Jules

>

> Jules

>

> Try not to get sucked into the undenatured whey sell been there done

> that - I cannot use any undenatured wheys myself as I am intolerant

> to casein - look at the work of Dr twogood he says to avoid

> ALL dairy for pain and many other things wheys included. I tried for

> years with undenatured wheys (three different brands) they make me

> really really sick every time (casein is in them) i do not agree that

> whey works well for many people infact it can make them very very

sick

> me included. Since I stopped taking undenatured wheys and ALL diary

> and used other things I am much better.

> Look at the work of Dr. Twogood.

> Indians for reflux chew a Cardamom Pod much cheaper than wasting

> money on many other things.

>

[Guest guest]

The point to taking enough betaine HCl is to make the lower valve

open out of the stomach; not enough acid fails to do that but then

feels like it's too acidic to your throat, which lacks protective

mucous.

Vinegar is only about a tenth as acid as stomach acidity; not acidic

enough to do much toward making the bottom stomach valve open, as

you've experienced.

Many people require four or more capsules of Betaine Hcl with a meal;

on this list uses 10 and prefers more.

Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone. This is my first post here. I've been

diagnosed

> > with

> > > > > Candida and Leaky Gut. It's difficult trying to balance

diet

> > > between

> > > > > the two. My main concern is weight loss. I'm not that big

to

> > > begin

> > > > > with and I've lost 24 pounds since early September. Is this

> the

> > > > norm?

> > > > > If I lose any more weight I'll look anorexic. Acid Reflux

is

> a

> > > > problem

> > > > > for me, so it makes it difficult to supplement with

weightier

> > > foods.

> > > > > Any advice, please?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > Jules

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think you probably would have been OK with Immunocal; it's

officially noted to be well-tolerated by severely milk-sensitive

individuals in the Physicians Desk Reference for prescription drugs,

and that's what I had seen in practice. In practice, very few people

react to the better undenatured wheys that are on the market,

It might take a bit more time to do it cheaper, but by reading the

label or contacting the manufacturer you should be able to get the

specs on the whey and finding one with no casein or lactose; they vary

by about a factor of three or so.

Cold-processed whey is a major therapy and generally well-assimilated.

Duncan

candidiasis , " dawnofthedeadhere "

<dawnofthedeadhere@...> wrote:

>

> Jules

>

> Try not to get sucked into the undenatured whey sell been there done

> that - I cannot use any undenatured wheys myself as I am intolerant

> to casein - look at the work of Dr twogood he says to avoid

> ALL dairy for pain and many other things wheys included. I tried for

> years with undenatured wheys (three different brands) they make me

> really really sick every time (casein is in them) i do not agree that

> whey works well for many people infact it can make them very very

sick

> me included. Since I stopped taking undenatured wheys and ALL diary

> and used other things I am much better.

> Look at the work of Dr. Twogood.

> Indians for reflux chew a Cardamom Pod much cheaper than wasting

> money on many other things.

>

[Guest guest]

By those LH and FSH results, it seems your pituitary gland is doing

fine.

You are fertile, but if you're not sure, get a semenalysis done.

You really need to lose the fat.

--- rsslkbr <rsslkbr@...> wrote:

> Thank you all for your answers about my weight loss question. Let me

> tell you my test results that I got about two years ago. I am 27...

> and I do have lot of fat in my lower ab portion. My Total

> Testosterone was 390. My LH was about 12.4 (normal 4-12) and my FSH

> was about 4.4 (normal 3-8). My testes has shrunk from 2.4 inches to

> 2.15 inches and my scrotum has shrunk about 50%. So, any new

> suggestions. I do not want to get on any supplemental testosterone

> because I would like to have kids someday if my testicles are still

> functional.

>

>

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With a low level like 390 witch is normal for a man 85 to 100 yrs. old with high

LH and FSH tells me your testis are not working to make testosterone called

Primary Hyposonadism. You need to get on TRT but first get your sprim tested

and if it's good get it frozen so later you can have kids. At the age of 27 and

low levels like this your going to start getting dam sick not on TRT. Read this

link.

http://www.allthingsmale.com/faq.html

rsslkbr <rsslkbr@...> wrote:

Thank you all for your answers about my weight loss question. Let me

tell you my test results that I got about two years ago. I am 27...

and I do have lot of fat in my lower ab portion. My Total

Testosterone was 390. My LH was about 12.4 (normal 4-12) and my FSH

was about 4.4 (normal 3-8). My testes has shrunk from 2.4 inches to

2.15 inches and my scrotum has shrunk about 50%. So, any new

suggestions. I do not want to get on any supplemental testosterone

because I would like to have kids someday if my testicles are still

functional.

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Philip, great heads up, on the sperm bank, what about taking a daily

amount of 50mg zinc, possibly DIM, or more aggressivly, arimidex.

Males have no way of storing T, so nightime erections, in my opinion

are a way of helping T (blood flow with erectin) move out of our

scrotum area. L arginine-pyncnoginal.sp are helpful for me. Or a small

amount of viagra before bedtime, increases NT erections.

I have found if I am having nightime erections, all is well.

kind regards david

> Thank you all for your answers about my weight loss

question. Let me

> tell you my test results that I got about two years ago. I am 27...

> and I do have lot of fat in my lower ab portion. My Total

> Testosterone was 390. My LH was about 12.4 (normal 4-12) and my FSH

> was about 4.4 (normal 3-8). My testes has shrunk from 2.4 inches to

> 2.15 inches and my scrotum has shrunk about 50%. So, any new

> suggestions. I do not want to get on any supplemental testosterone

> because I would like to have kids someday if my testicles are still

> functional.

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