Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Dear Phoenix.... I'm 50 years old and have recently stopped smoking (for the 1000th time) after 35 years. I understand cravings. I stopped this time on December 26th after watching my Dad pass away from COPD..... I'm not stupid, I know that smoking is the single most unhealthy habbit anyone can have. But after watching my Dad die I made up my mind that my kids were never going to see me like that. Nobody can make you break a bad habit execpt yourself. I can however make some suggestions which continue to help me past the cravings... remember most cravings will only last 5 minutes, so try to get through just 5 minutes at a time. A lifetime of bad habbits can't be broken in a week. Clean a bathroom. Clean out the Fridge. Change the sheets. Breath and stretch. Drink a glass of cold water. Chew some sugarless gum. Walk up and down the stairs. Go outside and take a quick walk around the block. Take up knitting. Clean out the linen closet (or anyother closet!) When I plan my BFL day I actually plan " distraction " activities... today I'm going to clean the garage. I wish you the very best of luck... stay busy.... stay focused... you have to want this for yourself... not anybody else.. grit your teeth, growl and do it --- Laurie <laur0165@...> wrote: > Phoenix, > > I hope things are looking better this morning! I do > remember you - I > think I remember when you got preganant, but you > probably don't > remember me, 'cause I usually lurk. > > Having small kids can be a killer (mine are 11 and > 13 now) - it wreaks > havoc with your life in ways that you could never > imagine before > having kids. It does get better though. When you are > sleep deprived, > it is hard to function on a day to day basis. > > The thing is, as soon as YOU are in control of the > eating aspect of > it, then the rest will seem better. Once you've made > the decision, it > becomes easy, simple, and you wonder why you > couldn't do it before. > Planning is key - especially when you have a little > one and you are > sleep deprived. Plan your meals and your workouts > the night before or > they won't happen. > > Hang in there:) What are your plans for eating > today? > > hugs, > > Laurie > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:48:12 -0000, theotherphoenix > <zyth2002@...> wrote: > > > > > > This is probably going to be long... > > > > Hi everyone. Some of you might remember me. It's > been a while. I am > > going to start eating right and exercising in the > morning. I feel > > sick with dread, actually, which hardly seems a > good place to start, > > but I can't seem to find another one. My eating > is getting more and > > more out of control and every time I try to get it > under control the > > relapse is worse. I'm going to end up dead of > heart disease or > > diabetes if I can't stop sugar binging. Many > nights I can't get to > > sleep because my heart is pounding from the sugar > overdose. Every > > other time I've " started " a challenge, or > whatever, I've been (or > > tried to be) fired up and ready to go. This time > I'm not. I don't > > even really want to do it because I'm so scared > that I can't. Why > > should I believe I can do this when I've bombed > out after a couple of > > weeks every time for the last 2 years? > > > > How do I come to want to be healthy more than I > want to stuff my face > > with every sweet or fatty thing that comes along? > Even when I do > > find that mental orientation that says " Getting > healthy and being > > slim, fit and attractive is more important than a > cookie " it only > > lasts for 2 weeks and then I don't care anymore. > If the cravings > > don't EVER go away, then how do any of you do it? > Do I have to be > > like an alchoholic who can NEVER have a drink? > Maybe that's the only > > way for me. Never ever ever have anything sugary > ever again. Sounds > > miserable to me, but maybe it wouldn't be. Maybe > if I never had it, > > I'd learn not to miss it. I don't know. > > > > God, I sound pathetic don't I? Whiny, > self-absorbed loser. LOL. > > Maybe sleeping on a regular basis would be a > start, but > > unfortunately, my 9 month old boy doesn't know the > meaning of the > > phrase " sleeping through the night " . > > > > I wish I could have a thought transplant. You'd > think it would be > > easy to change your thoughts. They aren't a > physical thing, it should > > be the easiest thing in the world. But it doesn't > seem to be. All > > the programs say that your mind is the key. > Unfortunately, all the > > Bill es and Dr. Phils in the world don't > seem to be able to > > change my brain. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. > Stupid mind. > > > > I'm sorry, I'm probably gonna bring everyone down > with this, and I > > should just cancel it and go to bed, but I just > feel like screaming, > > or crying, or beating my head into a wall until > all these cravings > > and thoughts and stupid stupid stupid bad habits > go away and now I am > > crying and I'm sorry, but I just want to be > healthy and I don't know > > why I can't ever manage it. > > > > Please help me > > > > Phoenix > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Phoenix, It seems to me there is more going on here besides sugar cravings. You had a baby nine months ago, that truely messes with your hormones, and post-partum is not just a myth, it is a real and dangerous thing. Before you do anything else please go to you doctor, tell him/her how you are feeling, don't worry about crying, don't worry about anything except getting help. You and your doc should be able to determin if this is post-partum or just sleep deprivation. Once you have identified or eliminated that possibility, sit down and ask youself what you really want..go over the 'crossing the abyss' section again and really take the time to think about the questions in there. down your goals, your dreams and your hopes. Then ask youself, are you currently on a course to achieve them? What do you have to change to achieve them? I also want you to do this...write back to the list and tell us three things that you really like about yourself, things that you want to build on and can use as a touch stone when you are feeling like you were last night. This will sound silly, but I used it when I was going through some depression and it really helped, every evening, before you go to sleep say (out loud if you can) those three things (or others if and when they come to mind) and tell youself you are worth more than a pile of sugar. Last, never appologize or say " I should not have brought this to the list.. " We are here to help eachother through times like last night. Maybe you should not look at this as a 12 week challenge right now. Maybe you should go one week at a time. Sit down on a Sunday night, plan out your meals and work outs for seven days. Once you gone through those seven days re-think your next week....set yourself a new goal to make it through the next seven days. Let us know how you are doing today. Barbara/Alys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 I totally can relate. I had to have my gallbladder removed! An organ! I know it was because my terrible eating habits and my constant weight changes. I want this part of my life to stop dominating me. > > This is probably going to be long... > > Hi everyone. Some of you might remember me. It's been a while. I am > going to start eating right and exercising in the morning. I feel > sick with dread, actually, which hardly seems a good place to start, > but I can't seem to find another one. My eating is getting more and > more out of control and every time I try to get it under control the > relapse is worse. I'm going to end up dead of heart disease or > diabetes if I can't stop sugar binging. Many nights I can't get to > sleep because my heart is pounding from the sugar overdose. Every > other time I've " started " a challenge, or whatever, I've been (or > tried to be) fired up and ready to go. This time I'm not. I don't > even really want to do it because I'm so scared that I can't. Why > should I believe I can do this when I've bombed out after a couple of > weeks every time for the last 2 years? > > How do I come to want to be healthy more than I want to stuff my face > with every sweet or fatty thing that comes along? Even when I do > find that mental orientation that says " Getting healthy and being > slim, fit and attractive is more important than a cookie " it only > lasts for 2 weeks and then I don't care anymore. If the cravings > don't EVER go away, then how do any of you do it? Do I have to be > like an alchoholic who can NEVER have a drink? Maybe that's the only > way for me. Never ever ever have anything sugary ever again. Sounds > miserable to me, but maybe it wouldn't be. Maybe if I never had it, > I'd learn not to miss it. I don't know. > > God, I sound pathetic don't I? Whiny, self-absorbed loser. LOL. > Maybe sleeping on a regular basis would be a start, but > unfortunately, my 9 month old boy doesn't know the meaning of the > phrase " sleeping through the night " . > > I wish I could have a thought transplant. You'd think it would be > easy to change your thoughts. They aren't a physical thing, it should > be the easiest thing in the world. But it doesn't seem to be. All > the programs say that your mind is the key. Unfortunately, all the > Bill es and Dr. Phils in the world don't seem to be able to > change my brain. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Stupid mind. > > I'm sorry, I'm probably gonna bring everyone down with this, and I > should just cancel it and go to bed, but I just feel like screaming, > or crying, or beating my head into a wall until all these cravings > and thoughts and stupid stupid stupid bad habits go away and now I am > crying and I'm sorry, but I just want to be healthy and I don't know > why I can't ever manage it. > > Please help me > > Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Ok, I'm going to give you some strange advice. :-) If the thought of doing a challenge makes you sick with dread, don't do a challenge. Don't go berserko with the planning and the pressure and the forced will-power. You're just setting yourself up for another failure. If trying to get your eating under control causes a massive rebound binge, then you need to re-think your approach. I've got it fairly together, but even entertaining the idea of " I'll never eat sugar again " would cause me to binge like a crazy woman. My advice is baby steps. If you want to start working out and eating better. The plan I would give you would go something like... meal 1) protein shake, peanut butter toast with banana and honey meal 2) cottage cheese and berries, 2 chocolate chip cookies (good ones warmed up in the microwave so the chips melt :-) meal 3) spinach salad with grilled chicken, small baked potato, 4 Hershey's Kisses meal 4) low fat string cheese, apple, mini Snicker's bar meal 5) grilled salmon, wild rice, steamed vegetables, the richest piece of cheesecake you can get your hands on. meal 6) turkey slices, ice cream sandwich, as many grapes as you want (preferably eaten in front of the television) See, I told you it was going to be crazy advice. :-) Here's my reasoning though. - It's probably MUCH better than the way you're eating now, more protein, more veggies, etc. - It won't be some horrible, dreadful, gut-wrenching thing that you can't wait to get off of, because techinically you could eat cookies every 2-3 hours. You just have to eat your cookies with protein and vegetables. - The sugar cravings are going to taper way off because you'll be full, your blood sugar will be stable from the protein, and you won't be depriving yourself. - If you're exercising and eating a little better, you're going to feel better and think more clearly. You won't be as panicked or feel so hopeless. You may even lose a pound or two. That's when the magic happens! Now, you're feeling really good, maybe even a little cocky. You may say to yourself, self, I believe I'll have one cookie with my cottage cheese today. Or maybe I'll be fine with just the apple and I don't need the Snickers. Baby steps. Remember that movie where Bill Murray was walking around with the fish in a jar around his neck? Baby steps. On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:48:12 -0000, theotherphoenix <zyth2002@...> wrote: > > > This is probably going to be long... > > Hi everyone. Some of you might remember me. It's been a while. I am > going to start eating right and exercising in the morning. I feel > sick with dread, actually, which hardly seems a good place to start, > but I can't seem to find another one. My eating is getting more and > more out of control and every time I try to get it under control the > relapse is worse. I'm going to end up dead of heart disease or > diabetes if I can't stop sugar binging. Many nights I can't get to > sleep because my heart is pounding from the sugar overdose. Every > other time I've " started " a challenge, or whatever, I've been (or > tried to be) fired up and ready to go. This time I'm not. I don't > even really want to do it because I'm so scared that I can't. Why > should I believe I can do this when I've bombed out after a couple of > weeks every time for the last 2 years? > > How do I come to want to be healthy more than I want to stuff my face > with every sweet or fatty thing that comes along? Even when I do > find that mental orientation that says " Getting healthy and being > slim, fit and attractive is more important than a cookie " it only > lasts for 2 weeks and then I don't care anymore. If the cravings > don't EVER go away, then how do any of you do it? Do I have to be > like an alchoholic who can NEVER have a drink? Maybe that's the only > way for me. Never ever ever have anything sugary ever again. Sounds > miserable to me, but maybe it wouldn't be. Maybe if I never had it, > I'd learn not to miss it. I don't know. > > God, I sound pathetic don't I? Whiny, self-absorbed loser. LOL. > Maybe sleeping on a regular basis would be a start, but > unfortunately, my 9 month old boy doesn't know the meaning of the > phrase " sleeping through the night " . > > I wish I could have a thought transplant. You'd think it would be > easy to change your thoughts. They aren't a physical thing, it should > be the easiest thing in the world. But it doesn't seem to be. All > the programs say that your mind is the key. Unfortunately, all the > Bill es and Dr. Phils in the world don't seem to be able to > change my brain. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Stupid mind. > > I'm sorry, I'm probably gonna bring everyone down with this, and I > should just cancel it and go to bed, but I just feel like screaming, > or crying, or beating my head into a wall until all these cravings > and thoughts and stupid stupid stupid bad habits go away and now I am > crying and I'm sorry, but I just want to be healthy and I don't know > why I can't ever manage it. > > Please help me > > Phoenix > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Did you happen to see Good Morning America this morning? They had this guy on there toting his book " the 3-hour diet " . Of course it meant eating every 3 hrs - how many ways can you word the same program? He used a Rubix cube as a guide for Carb portions at 3 meals, a deck of cards as a guide for protein portions for 3 meals, and a bottle cap as a guide for fat portion size. Then he used 3 dvd's as a guide for how many fruits and vegetables you should be eating. His program threw sweets in there just like you've suggested, . He had one of those 100-calorie packs of oreo crisps as one " snack " and a snack size bag of peanut M & M's as the last " meal " of the day. One thing it did do was prompt me to try those 100-calorie packs of oreo " crisps " . Talk about do-able. Those were good! Ideally they'd be paired with a protein drink, but I had them on my way home from grocery shopping, about 1/2 hr late for meal #2. I think for us sugar-a-holics, something like this little packet of cookies is a perfect way to teach us how to regulate the portion sizes of sweets as opposed to bingeing on them. I swear sometimes that strict BFL taught me how to binge on my free-day. And when not following the program that can be and has been disastrous for me. So anyway... 100-cal packs and also those those " Go-Mix " packages by Balance are really good in-between type meals that help the sugar freak not feel so deprived. Just my opinion... haven't shared it much, but still enjoy reading! Thanks in WI Re: Scared to death > > Ok, I'm going to give you some strange advice. :-) > > If the thought of doing a challenge makes you sick with dread, don't > do a challenge. Don't go berserko with the planning and the pressure > and the forced will-power. You're just setting yourself up for another > failure. > > If trying to get your eating under control causes a massive rebound > binge, then you need to re-think your approach. I've got it fairly > together, but even entertaining the idea of " I'll never eat sugar > again " would cause me to binge like a crazy woman. My advice is baby > steps. If you want to start working out and eating better. The plan I > would give you would go something like... > > meal 1) protein shake, peanut butter toast with banana and honey > > meal 2) cottage cheese and berries, 2 chocolate chip cookies (good > ones warmed up in the microwave so the chips melt :-) > > meal 3) spinach salad with grilled chicken, small baked potato, 4 > Hershey's Kisses > > meal 4) low fat string cheese, apple, mini Snicker's bar > > meal 5) grilled salmon, wild rice, steamed vegetables, the richest > piece of cheesecake you can get your hands on. > > meal 6) turkey slices, ice cream sandwich, as many grapes as you want > (preferably eaten in front of the television) > > See, I told you it was going to be crazy advice. :-) Here's my reasoning > though. > > - It's probably MUCH better than the way you're eating now, more > protein, more veggies, etc. > > - It won't be some horrible, dreadful, gut-wrenching thing that you > can't wait to get off of, because techinically you could eat cookies > every 2-3 hours. You just have to eat your cookies with protein and > vegetables. > > - The sugar cravings are going to taper way off because you'll be > full, your blood sugar will be stable from the protein, and you won't > be depriving yourself. > > - If you're exercising and eating a little better, you're going to > feel better and think more clearly. You won't be as panicked or feel > so hopeless. You may even lose a pound or two. That's when the magic > happens! Now, you're feeling really good, maybe even a little cocky. > You may say to yourself, self, I believe I'll have one cookie with my > cottage cheese today. Or maybe I'll be fine with just the apple and I > don't need the Snickers. > > Baby steps. Remember that movie where Bill Murray was walking around > with the fish in a jar around his neck? Baby steps. > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:48:12 -0000, theotherphoenix > <zyth2002@...> wrote: >> >> >> This is probably going to be long... >> >> Hi everyone. Some of you might remember me. It's been a while. I am >> going to start eating right and exercising in the morning. I feel >> sick with dread, actually, which hardly seems a good place to start, >> but I can't seem to find another one. My eating is getting more and >> more out of control and every time I try to get it under control the >> relapse is worse. I'm going to end up dead of heart disease or >> diabetes if I can't stop sugar binging. Many nights I can't get to >> sleep because my heart is pounding from the sugar overdose. Every >> other time I've " started " a challenge, or whatever, I've been (or >> tried to be) fired up and ready to go. This time I'm not. I don't >> even really want to do it because I'm so scared that I can't. Why >> should I believe I can do this when I've bombed out after a couple of >> weeks every time for the last 2 years? >> >> How do I come to want to be healthy more than I want to stuff my face >> with every sweet or fatty thing that comes along? Even when I do >> find that mental orientation that says " Getting healthy and being >> slim, fit and attractive is more important than a cookie " it only >> lasts for 2 weeks and then I don't care anymore. If the cravings >> don't EVER go away, then how do any of you do it? Do I have to be >> like an alchoholic who can NEVER have a drink? Maybe that's the only >> way for me. Never ever ever have anything sugary ever again. Sounds >> miserable to me, but maybe it wouldn't be. Maybe if I never had it, >> I'd learn not to miss it. I don't know. >> >> God, I sound pathetic don't I? Whiny, self-absorbed loser. LOL. >> Maybe sleeping on a regular basis would be a start, but >> unfortunately, my 9 month old boy doesn't know the meaning of the >> phrase " sleeping through the night " . >> >> I wish I could have a thought transplant. You'd think it would be >> easy to change your thoughts. They aren't a physical thing, it should >> be the easiest thing in the world. But it doesn't seem to be. All >> the programs say that your mind is the key. Unfortunately, all the >> Bill es and Dr. Phils in the world don't seem to be able to >> change my brain. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Stupid mind. >> >> I'm sorry, I'm probably gonna bring everyone down with this, and I >> should just cancel it and go to bed, but I just feel like screaming, >> or crying, or beating my head into a wall until all these cravings >> and thoughts and stupid stupid stupid bad habits go away and now I am >> crying and I'm sorry, but I just want to be healthy and I don't know >> why I can't ever manage it. >> >> Please help me >> >> Phoenix >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 To Laurie, Thank you for taking the time to help me! You have no idea how much these replies meant to me today. I am definitely sleep deprived. I haven't had 8 hours sleep in over a year, so I guess that affects me for sure! My plans for today were as follows 1. Get more than 4 hours sleep - sadly, no 2. Cardio workout - Done! 3. Extra swiss ball workout(25 min tape) - only 5 min done due to it being impossible to work out on a swiss ball with a crying baby hanging off one leg! I was risking either my bones or the baby's! 4. Oats, Protein, Vitamin - Done! 5. Protein, Apple - Actually a glass of milk before a nap. 6. Chicken, Salad, Yoghurt - Done! 7. Protein, Pineapple - Done! 8. Lamb Cutlets, Potato, Mix Frozen Veg - Done! 9. Oats, Protein - in about 1/2 an hour So, a good day really. I'm completely shattered now, but not a single cookie or chocolate all day! Phoenix > Phoenix, > > I hope things are looking better this morning! I do remember you - I > think I remember when you got preganant, but you probably don't > remember me, 'cause I usually lurk. > > Having small kids can be a killer (mine are 11 and 13 now) - it wreaks > havoc with your life in ways that you could never imagine before > having kids. It does get better though. When you are sleep deprived, > it is hard to function on a day to day basis. > > The thing is, as soon as YOU are in control of the eating aspect of > it, then the rest will seem better. Once you've made the decision, it > becomes easy, simple, and you wonder why you couldn't do it before. > Planning is key - especially when you have a little one and you are > sleep deprived. Plan your meals and your workouts the night before or > they won't happen. > > Hang in there:) What are your plans for eating today? > > hugs, > > Laurie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 , thank you so much for these links! Oh my goodness, addiction to meat, cheese and chocolate! That's me. Thank goodness I never had the opportunity or inclination to try heroin, I would be dead for sure. Why can't I have an addiction to SALAD! LOL. Can you tell today is a better day? That is in a large part due to you guys on this list. I am seeing a counsellor, although I feel wierd about it and I'm not sure it's going to help. Still, I'll keep going for a while and see where it takes me. Oh, I don't think the donut thing would work for me. If I bought a dozen I would eat a dozen... and I don't mean over the course of a weekend. That's so embarrassing, but it's true. Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Thank you for this suggestion! I never would have thought of having a " daily distraction " list for when cravings hit. That is such a good idea, and in a household with 2 preschoolers there is always a list a mile long of things I could do! Way to go with quitting smoking! My husband had to do it too a few years back, so I've seen how hard it can be. Sounds like you've got the mental side of it this time though! Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 I'm doing much better today thank you Barbara. In big part because of you! I guess I could have a bit of PND, I never really thought about it... or perhaps more likely, I don't WANT to have depression of any kind! I guess I should check with the doctor just in case. I think chronic sleep deprivation is more likely culprit though. I will go back and read the book again, redo my goals and try to find some mental imagery that really excites me. That's the biggest problem with having done this so many times. Trying to find that enthusiasm. Three things I like about myself. Tough call, I'm much more used to thinking about what I DON'T like. 1. I have a good singing voice and love to sing. .... Oh dear. I've sat here for 10 minutes and I can't think of anything. that is sad. I won't take that as the last word though. My brain is absolutely fried from lack of sleep tonight. I'll try again in the morning. Seriously, there must be something I like about myself! Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Oh gosh, more motivation! I don't want to have things removed! I hope you're feeling better now! Phoenix > > I totally can relate. I had to have my gallbladder removed! An organ! I know it was because > my terrible eating habits and my constant weight changes. I want this part of my life to > stop dominating me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 OMG, Bill would be turning in his grave, if he was dead! You are right, that's the craziest advice ever, but in a wierd way it makes some sense. AND you are right about it being better than how I was eating until this morning. Today went well, but I will definitely think about baby steps. I'd kinda like to get to the three weeks mark and see if was right about the cravings going away, but I think that means I need to do three weeks without any sugar at all, and I'm gonna hyperventilate just thinking about that. I like your idea. I especially like the fact that if I'm gonna have a damn cookie, it should be a good rich melted choccy one and not some stale insipid thing that I'm eating just coz it's there. I did today. I'm pretty sure I'm capable of tomorrow. After that, well, maybe those hershey kisses will come in handy! I'm afraid I haven't a clue what you mean about Bill Murray and the fish though. Thanks Skwigg, you are a big help, even though I'm not sure that that particular diet plan will ever make it into a best seller... actually, who am I kidding, you're on to a winner!!! " the choc chip cookie diet plan " . *wink* Phoenix > > > > > > This is probably going to be long... > > > > Hi everyone. Some of you might remember me. It's been a while. I am > > going to start eating right and exercising in the morning. I feel > > sick with dread, actually, which hardly seems a good place to start, > > but I can't seem to find another one. My eating is getting more and > > more out of control and every time I try to get it under control the > > relapse is worse. I'm going to end up dead of heart disease or > > diabetes if I can't stop sugar binging. Many nights I can't get to > > sleep because my heart is pounding from the sugar overdose. Every > > other time I've " started " a challenge, or whatever, I've been (or > > tried to be) fired up and ready to go. This time I'm not. I don't > > even really want to do it because I'm so scared that I can't. Why > > should I believe I can do this when I've bombed out after a couple of > > weeks every time for the last 2 years? > > > > How do I come to want to be healthy more than I want to stuff my face > > with every sweet or fatty thing that comes along? Even when I do > > find that mental orientation that says " Getting healthy and being > > slim, fit and attractive is more important than a cookie " it only > > lasts for 2 weeks and then I don't care anymore. If the cravings > > don't EVER go away, then how do any of you do it? Do I have to be > > like an alchoholic who can NEVER have a drink? Maybe that's the only > > way for me. Never ever ever have anything sugary ever again. Sounds > > miserable to me, but maybe it wouldn't be. Maybe if I never had it, > > I'd learn not to miss it. I don't know. > > > > God, I sound pathetic don't I? Whiny, self-absorbed loser. LOL. > > Maybe sleeping on a regular basis would be a start, but > > unfortunately, my 9 month old boy doesn't know the meaning of the > > phrase " sleeping through the night " . > > > > I wish I could have a thought transplant. You'd think it would be > > easy to change your thoughts. They aren't a physical thing, it should > > be the easiest thing in the world. But it doesn't seem to be. All > > the programs say that your mind is the key. Unfortunately, all the > > Bill es and Dr. Phils in the world don't seem to be able to > > change my brain. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Stupid mind. > > > > I'm sorry, I'm probably gonna bring everyone down with this, and I > > should just cancel it and go to bed, but I just feel like screaming, > > or crying, or beating my head into a wall until all these cravings > > and thoughts and stupid stupid stupid bad habits go away and now I am > > crying and I'm sorry, but I just want to be healthy and I don't know > > why I can't ever manage it. > > > > Please help me > > > > Phoenix > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 At least by reading some of those addictions perhaps it doesn't make you feel so alone. Actually I don't know if this would be of help but here is a link for a group for chocoholics! Perhaps they could share with you some of their techniques to curb the cravings. chocolateloversanonymous/ Best wishes! > > , thank you so much for these links! Oh my goodness, addiction > to meat, cheese and chocolate! That's me. Thank goodness I never had > the opportunity or inclination to try heroin, I would be dead for > sure. Why can't I have an addiction to SALAD! LOL. Can you tell > today is a better day? That is in a large part due to you guys on > this list. > > I am seeing a counsellor, although I feel wierd about it and I'm not > sure it's going to help. Still, I'll keep going for a while and see > where it takes me. > > Oh, I don't think the donut thing would work for me. If I bought a > dozen I would eat a dozen... and I don't mean over the course of a > weekend. That's so embarrassing, but it's true. > > Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Skwiggs advice is so sane. I was on ediets and was working with a group that advised total elimination of these foods. It worked for me for a while,but then I started back. My problem is identifying trigger foods and situations that send me into a full scale binge. I almost had one on Sunday with a malted milk ball episode, but removed myself and went upstairs, made my fiance hide the candy, and then stopped. I read in the new womens' health magazine that lowfart chocolate milk is good for a post workout drink because has a good mix of protein and carbs and satisfies the chocolate craving. I had four ounces at bf with my protein pancake and am very full and satisfied. Skwigg is the best. > > > > > > > > > This is probably going to be long... > > > > > > Hi everyone. Some of you might remember me. It's been a while. I > am > > > going to start eating right and exercising in the morning. I feel > > > sick with dread, actually, which hardly seems a good place to > start, > > > but I can't seem to find another one. My eating is getting more > and > > > more out of control and every time I try to get it under control > the > > > relapse is worse. I'm going to end up dead of heart disease or > > > diabetes if I can't stop sugar binging. Many nights I can't get > to > > > sleep because my heart is pounding from the sugar overdose. Every > > > other time I've " started " a challenge, or whatever, I've been (or > > > tried to be) fired up and ready to go. This time I'm not. I don't > > > even really want to do it because I'm so scared that I can't. Why > > > should I believe I can do this when I've bombed out after a > couple of > > > weeks every time for the last 2 years? > > > > > > How do I come to want to be healthy more than I want to stuff my > face > > > with every sweet or fatty thing that comes along? Even when I do > > > find that mental orientation that says " Getting healthy and being > > > slim, fit and attractive is more important than a cookie " it only > > > lasts for 2 weeks and then I don't care anymore. If the cravings > > > don't EVER go away, then how do any of you do it? Do I have to be > > > like an alchoholic who can NEVER have a drink? Maybe that's the > only > > > way for me. Never ever ever have anything sugary ever again. > Sounds > > > miserable to me, but maybe it wouldn't be. Maybe if I never had > it, > > > I'd learn not to miss it. I don't know. > > > > > > God, I sound pathetic don't I? Whiny, self-absorbed loser. LOL. > > > Maybe sleeping on a regular basis would be a start, but > > > unfortunately, my 9 month old boy doesn't know the meaning of the > > > phrase " sleeping through the night " . > > > > > > I wish I could have a thought transplant. You'd think it would be > > > easy to change your thoughts. They aren't a physical thing, it > should > > > be the easiest thing in the world. But it doesn't seem to be. All > > > the programs say that your mind is the key. Unfortunately, all > the > > > Bill es and Dr. Phils in the world don't seem to be able > to > > > change my brain. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Stupid mind. > > > > > > I'm sorry, I'm probably gonna bring everyone down with this, and I > > > should just cancel it and go to bed, but I just feel like > screaming, > > > or crying, or beating my head into a wall until all these cravings > > > and thoughts and stupid stupid stupid bad habits go away and now > I am > > > crying and I'm sorry, but I just want to be healthy and I don't > know > > > why I can't ever manage it. > > > > > > Please help me > > > > > > Phoenix > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Phoenix, I'm glad you are feeling better And I'm also glad to hear, in one of your posts, that you are seeking help for the depression. Depression is an illness, not a character flaw, no reason to feel weird about getting it treated. I sing too, in fact I'm in the Dallas Symphony chorus. It can be immensly exciting, and helps me keep a possitive outlook. Hope your day goes well. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Never say never. It is so hard to stick to anything if you think you can never have something. Today is all you have, so say you won't eat it today or even that you won't eat it at this meal. That is much easier to handle than thinking you can't have that pound cake or sweets again ever. I'm a coffee latte addict so have to use it as a carb portion(the milk). I don't do the whipped cream or anything else but it works because I take a protein bar to the coffee shop with me to go with it. Break this program way down into small portions of time. Each clean meal you eat will be a small victory toward your ultimate success. Try to stay in the moment. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Hi Margie, I'm glad you found this group also. No one was more scared than I was. I was so bad that I put it off for 6 years. I joined this group 3 years ago and would read the messages every night but never post. Then this past June it got to the point where all I could do was laundry and ironing (sitting down). I couldn't even carry a pot of water from the sink to the stove to make pasta. The distance was only 3-4 steps. I gave in, still very reluctantly. I went to one surgeon in June but that was a circus because as of July 1st he stopped going to the hospital my insurance covers. I made appointments with 2 other surgeons. I had created a 2 page typewritten list of questions that I had learned from this group. I went with the surgeon who answered the most questions with answers I wanted to hear such as type of prothesis, name of company, material of prothesis, type and place of incision, etc. Ironically, the surgeon I chose booked me for the following week, which was good as I had no time to really think about it. I was taken into the operating room at 9:15 AM and was back in my room at 12:30 PM. My doctor ordered a pain pump of morphine so that I would have control of my own pain medication. I never used the pump. My daughter and husband came into the room shortly afterward and couldn't get over how good I looked. I don't say that I should have done this long before I did because I believe each person has to come to the decision emotionally before they do it. Once I knew I had made the arrangements, I didn't worry. I knew I had lost control of my situation, so I just went with the flow. lol I am not going to tell you not to worry, because that never works. I WILL tell you that I never realized how easy the whole process was. I am going back in January to have my other hip done. I wish you peace with your decision and feel you have made the right one. Please continue to post until you go to the hospital, and upon returning home. I know we are rooting for you and know that you will come through with flying colors. God Bless Arianne > > Hi everyone. My name is Margie and I'm new to this group and I just > wanted to say hello. I am glad to find this group because I am > terrified of my upcoming hip replacement surgery on next Tuesday. I > went to the hospital this week for my pretesting and it really just hit > me and I have been shaking all week. I've never had surgery before and > I am so scared. I tried listing the reasons for my husband and all he > can say is just think how good you're going to feel afterwards. Am I > nuts to be so scared? What can I really expect in the hospital and > afterwards? I know I have to have the surgery because I can't live like > this any more. I'm a school teacher and I am having a difficult time > doing my job which I love. How long can I reasonably expect to stay > home from work? And will I be able to do the things I used to do > before? I guess I'm rambling a bit and I apologize in advance. Thanks, > Margie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 > > Hi everyone. My name is Margie and I'm new to this group and I just > wanted to say hello............ I'm a school teacher and I am having a difficult time > doing my job which I love. How long can I reasonably expect to stay > home from work? And will I be able to do the things I used to do > before? Hi Margie Welcome. I will try to answer two of your questions, as least how they affected me. I work at a job that lets me sit most of the time and was able to return to work three weeks post op. Actually two weeks and six days for my surgery was on a Tuesday and I went back to work on a Monday. We all are different but I'm sure you will be able to return to work in a reasonable time period. As for restrictions, your doc will tell you about the thing you should not do for the time it takes to heal, Again a different amount of time for each individual depending on your healing and the procedure he choose to preform. I am now two years post op and can do just about anything, I have even been back to Colorado skiing this past winter. You say you were glad to find this group, I'm glad you found this group as well. Keep us informed on your progress Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Margie - relax - and try to think about the vacation you're about to get from work, and yes, how amazing it will feel to be out of the deep koint pain. Think of it as a blessing. Ask yourself what you're scared of exactly? The pain? Because it's immideately going to feel better than Osteo Arthritis, let me tell you from expereince :-) You'll be taken good care of, and given good pain medicine (if you even need it!) and you'll be able to bend over and lace up (lace up!) your walking shoes and go for a nice, long walk before it's even Halloween. Think about any other surgeries you've had - (if you've had any) - and you healed up just fine, right? Most importantly, please try to stop feeling so scared - we've all agreed that a calm, positive frame of mind can actually help your healing process. Good luck, and CONGRATULATIONS on getting your life back. It is well worth it, trust me. (I had my left hip replaced on June 21st, and have nothing but good things to say about the whole process, if you'd like to email me back I'll talk you through anything you need: grettler@.... and relax! -kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Margie. Welcome to our group. I have had both knees done and it was easy. I have been told that usually recovery for hip surgery is less. I can't speak for hips but I felt my experience was a piece of cake. I was not afraid at all which is normally not me. I had two pokes, one an iv and the other a block and the next thing I knew I was in my room. Try to relax about the surgery. I think you will do fine. On Sep 9, 2006, at 6:35 PM, arianne377 wrote: > Hi Margie, I'm glad you found this group also. > No one was more scared than I was. I was so bad that I put it off for > 6 years. I joined this > group 3 years ago and would read the messages every night but never > post. Then this past > June it got to the point where all I could do was laundry and ironing > (sitting down). I > couldn't even carry a pot of water from the sink to the stove to make > pasta. The distance > was only 3-4 steps. > I gave in, still very reluctantly. I went to one surgeon in June but > that was a circus because > as of July 1st he stopped going to the hospital my insurance covers. > I made appointments > with 2 other surgeons. I had created a 2 page typewritten list of > questions that I had > learned from this group. I went with the surgeon who answered the > most questions with > answers I wanted to hear such as type of prothesis, name of company, > material of > prothesis, type and place of incision, etc. > Ironically, the surgeon I chose booked me for the following week, > which was good as I had > no time to really think about it. > I was taken into the operating room at 9:15 AM and was back in my > room at 12:30 PM. My > doctor ordered a pain pump of morphine so that I would have control > of my own pain > medication. I never used the pump. > My daughter and husband came into the room shortly afterward and > couldn't get over how > good I looked. > I don't say that I should have done this long before I did because I > believe each person has > to come to the decision emotionally before they do it. > Once I knew I had made the arrangements, I didn't worry. I knew I had > lost control of my > situation, so I just went with the flow. lol > I am not going to tell you not to worry, because that never works. I > WILL tell you that I > never realized how easy the whole process was. I am going back in > January to have my > other hip done. > I wish you peace with your decision and feel you have made the right > one. Please continue > to post until you go to the hospital, and upon returning home. > I know we are rooting for you and know that you will come through > with flying colors. > God Bless > Arianne > > > > > > Hi everyone. My name is Margie and I'm new to this group and I just > > wanted to say hello. I am glad to find this group because I am > > terrified of my upcoming hip replacement surgery on next Tuesday. I > > went to the hospital this week for my pretesting and it really just > hit > > me and I have been shaking all week. I've never had surgery before > and > > I am so scared. I tried listing the reasons for my husband and all > he > > can say is just think how good you're going to feel afterwards. Am I > > nuts to be so scared? What can I really expect in the hospital and > > afterwards? I know I have to have the surgery because I can't live > like > > this any more. I'm a school teacher and I am having a difficult time > > doing my job which I love. How long can I reasonably expect to stay > > home from work? And will I be able to do the things I used to do > > before? I guess I'm rambling a bit and I apologize in advance. > Thanks, > > Margie > > > > " If God brings you to it He will bring you through it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Hi Margie, These are the kinds of questions you should be asking your surgeon. When I had my hip redone in 2004 my surgeon said that 3 months was the minimum I would have to take off work, and that it would be more likely 6 months. I decided I would be back at work in 3. It ended up taking 5. Your surgeon knows better than us how fit you are, what are the likely complications, and the proceedure etc being used. Good luck with it. My first Total Hip surgery in 1990 gave me my life back. You will be amazed how much difference it can make to your life. Aussie Margaret RTHR 1990 revised 2004 scared to death | Hi everyone. My name is Margie and I'm new to this group and I just | wanted to say hello. I am glad to find this group because I am | terrified of my upcoming hip replacement surgery on next Tuesday. I | went to the hospital this week for my pretesting and it really just hit | me and I have been shaking all week. I've never had surgery before and | I am so scared. I tried listing the reasons for my husband and all he | can say is just think how good you're going to feel afterwards. Am I | nuts to be so scared? What can I really expect in the hospital and | afterwards? I know I have to have the surgery because I can't live like | this any more. I'm a school teacher and I am having a difficult time | doing my job which I love. How long can I reasonably expect to stay | home from work? And will I be able to do the things I used to do | before? I guess I'm rambling a bit and I apologize in advance. Thanks, | Margie | | | | | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hi Margie, I just wanted to say I had a hip and Knee replacement two years apart on my right side I'm retired so I didn't go back to work but the only thing I do is Trust in the Lord and take one day at a time, I wish you the best of luck for your operation and a Speedy recovery. Well you have a nice day. SusieMargie <marga132003@...> wrote: Hi everyone. My name is Margie and I'm new to this group and I just wanted to say hello. I am glad to find this group because I am terrified of my upcoming hip replacement surgery on next Tuesday. I went to the hospital this week for my pretesting and it really just hit me and I have been shaking all week. I've never had surgery before and I am so scared. I tried listing the reasons for my husband and all he can say is just think how good you're going to feel afterwards. Am I nuts to be so scared? What can I really expect in the hospital and afterwards? I know I have to have the surgery because I can't live like this any more. I'm a school teacher and I am having a difficult time doing my job which I love. How long can I reasonably expect to stay home from work? And will I be able to do the things I used to do before? I guess I'm rambling a bit and I apologize in advance. Thanks, Margie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Thanks to everyone for the encouragement. This group is just what I need because last night was the first good night's sleep I've had in over a week. All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hi Margie I think we are all scared to death but decided, like you, that we just can't go on in this dibilitating condition. I have had both my hips replaced (6 months apart) and truly did get my life back. Prior to the surgeries, I walked with a crutch, but preferred not to walk at all. I was in pain all of the time, especially my back. Someone had to do my grocery shopping, house cleaning, etc. The first replacement was the worst because I didn't know what to expect. The second replacement was much easier and by then I had a good hip working for me. It has been 5 years since the surgeries. I work at a grammar school, go to the park with my grandson and just got back from an Alaskan cruise. I also thank God every day for giving me my life back. Please feel free to ask any questions. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 I'm glad you slept well, Margaret. I hope the noise level is better than mine was in the hospital at night, so you sleep well there also. Arianne > > Thanks to everyone for the encouragement. This group is just what I need because last night was the first good night's sleep I've had in over a week. > > --------------------------------- > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Margie: It is normal to be scared, but after your surgery you will be so happy to get back to your life without pain that it will all be worth it! I spent six years in constant pain because " the time wasn't right " to be out of commission for a few months. Boy was I stupid! I had my hip replaced four years ago and I feel great. I forget sometimes that I have a hip replacement because I never feel any pain any more. Good luck and remember that there will be a few uncomfortable days after surgery, but it is all worth it. > > Hi everyone. My name is Margie and I'm new to this group and I just > wanted to say hello. I am glad to find this group because I am > terrified of my upcoming hip replacement surgery on next Tuesday. I > went to the hospital this week for my pretesting and it really just hit > me and I have been shaking all week. I've never had surgery before and > I am so scared. I tried listing the reasons for my husband and all he > can say is just think how good you're going to feel afterwards. Am I > nuts to be so scared? What can I really expect in the hospital and > afterwards? I know I have to have the surgery because I can't live like > this any more. I'm a school teacher and I am having a difficult time > doing my job which I love. How long can I reasonably expect to stay > home from work? And will I be able to do the things I used to do > before? I guess I'm rambling a bit and I apologize in advance. Thanks, > Margie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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