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Your HCV load is still high and it keeps fluctuating so a liltle or more doesnt

make any difference.

Your liver enzymes are only twice high , which isnt too bad.

Lipemic simply means fat in the serum, you have to check your serum lipd levels

as well.

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Your HCV load is still high and it keeps fluctuating so a liltle or more doesnt

make any difference.

Your liver enzymes are only twice high , which isnt too bad.

Lipemic simply means fat in the serum, you have to check your serum lipd levels

as well.

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Hi Bob,

I will be the first to say I strongly dislike the

newer viral load tests being done routinely,

especially since such better ones are available.

However, since you aren't on treatment it is not

really an issue. I just am the kind who doesn't like

change, lol! I don't like the new IU. Your lab though

looks like it gave your results in both copies/ml and

in IU per ml.

To accurately compare to your old figure of

600,000 you would need to know if that was copies, or

IUs. However, either way your new PCR is higher, not

lower.

It is 2,420,000 copies per ml

OR

952,000 IU per ml.

The other figures given (Less than 10000 copies/mL and

Less than 6000 IU/mL) are the reference ranges of the

tests, not the results. Meaning it wouldn't pick up

anything less than those amounts.

Ok, don't let this throw you, that your PCR is so much

higher now. This same thing happened to me when I

stopped treatment, and I have since found out it is so

common as to be considered normal for the viral load

to skyrocket when treatment is stopped. Mine went from

50,000 to almost a million at my one-year post

treatment PCR. Needless to say, I was in total shock,

and panic. Some kind person wrote and told me it would

gradually go back down. And guess what, it did. By

about 18 - 20 months post treatment it was back to

just about my pretreatment viral load. And the really

strange thing is that this huge viral load increase

seems to do no damage, at least that is what I have

read. And, considering my biopsy results this past

March (zero fibrosis when before I had stage 1), there

must be something to that! So I know it's scary, but

don't panic.

Ok, on your second question about slightly lipemic, I

don't know. Sorry!

Are you considering going back on treatment with

either of the new pegylated interferons?

Take care,

Claudine

> HCV RNA, QN, PCR, Expanded

>

> hcv rna, qn,

> pcr...............................2420000 H

> ............Less

> than 10000 copies/mL

> hcv rna, pcr ....................................

> 952000 H.............Less

> than 6000 IU/mL

> ALT

> .............................................108

> H.............35 or less IU/L

>

> SAMPLE SLIGHTLY LIPEMIC

> Q. I have been off treatment now for over one year.

> They pulled me off after

> six months because my PCR at six months was 600,000

> just like it was when I

> started treatment. If I am reading this right my PCR

> is much lower now. Am I

> reading this right? And if so what does it mean?

>

> Q. What does Slightly Lipemic mean? And what are the

> ramifications?

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Thanks Doc for the info. What would cause that fat in my serum?

Bob

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> Your HCV load is still high and it keeps fluctuating so a liltle or more

doesnt make any difference.

> Your liver enzymes are only twice high , which isnt too bad.

> Lipemic simply means fat in the serum, you have to check your serum lipd

levels as well.

>

>

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Thanks Doc for the info. What would cause that fat in my serum?

Bob

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> Your HCV load is still high and it keeps fluctuating so a liltle or more

doesnt make any difference.

> Your liver enzymes are only twice high , which isnt too bad.

> Lipemic simply means fat in the serum, you have to check your serum lipd

levels as well.

>

>

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Hye Bob...also had 'LIPEMIC' specimen on 1 of my wkly CBCs...had my

cholesterol & lipids checked...everything was good...in fact better than it

ever was...so was just a flukey thing. But u could have yours checked. mzgee

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Hye Bob...also had 'LIPEMIC' specimen on 1 of my wkly CBCs...had my

cholesterol & lipids checked...everything was good...in fact better than it

ever was...so was just a flukey thing. But u could have yours checked. mzgee

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Hi Sandy,

My PCR test was a stool test(not blood)by Metametrix. My doc recommends the

stool because it will show what the body is killing off. It's NOT just a

regular stool test though because with those, once air hits the stool many of

the pathogens die off. With PCR analysis, they can replicate the dead pathogens

and get a quantifiable sense of what infections your body is dealing with.

I too have leaky gut which started about 6 months after implants. My doc has me

on Apex Energetics Gastro ULC which Ann Boroch (author of Healing Multiple

Sclerosis) also recommends. She healed herself of MS through diet changes and

healing her gut. I am going the natural/alternative way as opposed to going on

antibiotics because I've had too many setbacks w/ antibiotics.

Hang in there Sandy. We can do this!

Love,

PH

>

> It was normal, so you probably have toxicity from silicone as the cause along

with leaky gut which increases circulation immune complexes that attack the

joints. UltraClear sustain, probiotics are good for this. What supplements

are you currently on?

>

> My doctor said my PCR test came back normal

> Sandy ~

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Hi GG,

Yes, I think the Gastro ULC is working, although slowly. There are lots of

products for leaky gut: UltraClear Sustain (what Sandy takes), Gastro ULC by

Apex Energetics and Schulze's Intestinal Formula 1 and 2. All three

stimulate the colon so that bowel movements are more frequent and also contain

things like l glutamine and bentonite to heal the gut and remove toxins. None

of them require a prescription as far as I know.

Diet is critical with leaky gut and I've been horrible lately. It's basically

the same diet that Kolb recommends (fruits, veggies, and lean hormone-free

meats). Lots of water is necessary too. Avoid sugar, red meat, dairy,

caffeine, soy, gluten...that is for severe cases. Some people don't have to go

to extremes...just depends on your symptoms although some people can have leaky

gut and not feel the gut issues but have brain fog issues.

No, leaky gut was not diagnosed via PCR. My doc says my level of pathogens and

the fact that I have brain fog and headaches and food allergies is indicative of

leaky gut.

Take care.

PH

> >

> > It was normal, so you probably have toxicity from silicone as the cause

along with leaky gut which increases circulation immune complexes that attack

the joints. UltraClear sustain, probiotics are good for this. What supplements

are you currently on?

> >

> > My doctor said my PCR test came back normal

> > Sandy ~

> >

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Concerning leaky-gut, I saw this link and thought of you...

http://www.treelight.com/health/healing/MS.html

My doctor is Dr. Fuhrman. He has a great website too.

He also does phone consultations.

Hugs of support,

M.

> > >

> > > It was normal, so you probably have toxicity from silicone as the cause

along with leaky gut which increases circulation immune complexes that attack

the joints. UltraClear sustain, probiotics are good for this. What supplements

are you currently on?

> > >

> > > My doctor said my PCR test came back normal

> > > Sandy ~

> > >

> >

>

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