Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 > Hi > > Just starting DMSA/ALA. How soon can I expect to see some improvements? Probably within the first 2-3 rounds if you are using both. You might see regression first tho. It also depends on your protocol. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 At 20:45 11/05/2002 +0000, you wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Just starting DMSA/ALA. How soon can I expect to see some >improvements? > > >Probably within the first 2-3 rounds if you are using both. You might >see regression first tho. It also depends on your protocol. > >Dana >Please read about Andy Cutler's Protocol and then make up your mind as to which protocol you will use. I am not yet chelating my son but plan to and his protocol makes the most sense.........to me. . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 > Hi, > We have discovered that our son (9.6) has high lead levels, and the doctor > has recommended we chelate using (I think this is how they are spelled) > Beta-C powder (apparently zinc and very high vitamin C) and Ultra Muscle > Ease (high magnesium and some other things). > Does anyone have any experience of these products or of chelating this way? > Thanks, > Gillian. My understanding is that the stuff you cite (vit c, magnesium, zinc) do not chelate lead (or mercury for that matter). I don't know about the " other things " that may be in Ultra Muscle--- but presumably it is more minerals etc. DMSA is a very good chelator of lead. It was approved by the FDA for lead, although many people also use it to chelate mercury. If you wish you can read some of Andy Cutler's thoughts about DMSA, here: /files/ANDY_INDEX There is a section about DMSA, called, um (something like): " chelation agents: DMSA " . Lead takes a long time to chelate, as it is stored in bones... somehow this results in some coming out at a time (sorry I just now realize I'm not clear on this....Funny how I don't notice till I try to explain it!) There is a book called " Turning Lead Into Gold " that is about twin boys with severe autism (both of them) who were eventually dx'ed as having lead poisoning..... Chelation helped them a lot... although I wished that part of the book were more detailed..... I believe it is out of print, but I did find a copy somewhere. best wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 Hi Moria, Thanks so much for all that information. I have faxed a letter to our dr asking those and other questions, and I'll try to get hold of that book. It's funny to be talking chelation, because I was pretty sure Sam did not have a mercury problem and so didn't think we would ever need to chelate. We have an excellent Lead Group here in Sydney, I'll get on to them Monday about de-leading the house (we live in a very old house next to a park that was a large dry dock where for decades the ships were sanded back and repainted!!) I have one other question - Sam's cholesterol came in at a massive 6.4, and there were other results showing problems metabolising fats. Does anyone know anything about spectrum kids having these problems? What system/s are involved - is it pancreatic, is it bile production? (I'm thinking that having him on Zyme is good for him in more ways than one!) Thanks again! Gillian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 Hello Gillian, > Thanks so much for all that information. I have faxed a letter to our dr > asking those and other questions, and I'll try to get hold of that book. I'm sure you'll find it interesting since you are dealing with lead. Byt he way, I do NOT know if the detox info in this book is at all useful. I read the biographical part (which I found very useful) but not the stuff about stuff like how to detox/test/etc. The following file is mostly a list of books, but also has a couple of sources for out-of-print books: /files/Books_about_autism > It's funny to be talking chelation, because I was pretty sure Sam did not > have a mercury problem well, I hope this is not " too much information " (LOL) but most people who ARE mercury poisoned have " normal " levels of mercury in their hair/blood/urine....... so don't be too certain about Sam not having a mercury problem! If you want to read more about this: /files/HOW_TO_hair_test > and so didn't think we would ever need to chelate. We > have an excellent Lead Group here in Sydney, okay. well now I'm curious: what is " a lead group " ? Is that like the government inspectors who will de-lead the house? Or is it a group where you get together and talk about lead and eat cookies? Or a email list? Or some other meaning that I can't even guess? I'll get on to them Monday > about de-leading the house (we live in a very old house next to a park that > was a large dry dock where for decades the ships were sanded back and > repainted!!) > > I have one other question - Sam's cholesterol came in at a massive 6.4, and > there were other results showing problems metabolising fats. Does anyone > know anything about spectrum kids having these problems? Hope someone does, but not I ! best wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/as_links.html links towards the bottom of page from the preamble you might gather i am not too happy with chelation you need to be cautious on autism mercury because they push chelation and ban people with opposing viewpoints....... > Hi > > Could someone please post links so I can learn more about chelation. Have any of you done this with your ASD child without a doctor's supervisor? A young child? > > Thanks for all your help > > & 2 1/2 yrs ASD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 > Could someone please post links so I can learn more about chelation. Have any of you done this with your ASD child without a doctor's supervisor? A young child? > > Thanks for all your help > > & 2 1/2 yrs ASD ; there is a group on that deals specifically with detoxing/chelating kids. Here is the link: KidsChelationDetoxGroup/ Good luck, Rubby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 > Hi > > Could someone please post links so I can learn more about chelation. My info page http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm >>Have any of you done this with your ASD child without a doctor's supervisor? Yes, I do it without medical supervision. >>A young child? I am chelating four kids. The youngest was age 2-1/2 when I started. You can read our story here, if you want. The chelation portion is near the bottom. http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 not true, it is a great site to learn alot from, some are just mad at the moment about them, it is a group called . They do bicker alot, but the majority of people on there are great, and have so much info. Re: chelation http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/as_links.html links towards the bottom of page from the preamble you might gather i am not too happy with chelation you need to be cautious on autism mercury because they push chelation and ban people with opposing viewpoints....... > Hi > > Could someone please post links so I can learn more about chelation. Have any of you done this with your ASD child without a doctor's supervisor? A young child? > > Thanks for all your help > > & 2 1/2 yrs ASD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 This is a nice board for information but in order to join you must be working with a doctor for chelation: chelatingkids2/ I have done some chelating on my 2 year old, and also my 6 year old. We have used primarily dmsa, but will be switching to oral dmps because the dmsa was flaring up yeast too often. Email me privately if you have any questions maryandphilip@... W > Hi > > Could someone please post links so I can learn more about chelation. Have any of you done this with your ASD child without a doctor's supervisor? A young child? > > Thanks for all your help > > & 2 1/2 yrs ASD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Ta chelation removing a spectrum of minerals with some problematic component of heavy metals. minerals transport enhancement is a safer and more effcitve remedy. http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/as_links.html > > I have been giving Kyson Epson salts baths. Can I look really dumb > and ask > > what Chelation is. > > > Removing heavy metals from the body > > http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm > > Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 During the first few rounds of chelation, we did see the return of sensitivity to socks and a few other sensory things that had been long gone. This went away as we continued chelating. maryW > For those of you have that have chelated your children, what (if any) were > the side effects or regressive behaviors you saw during the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 We chelated our son for about a year. In the beginning it was very difficult. We seen many regressions, as well as new behavior that we had never seen. In fact we were about to give up on the chelation approach, when we were encouraged to change the dosage (we were not giving enough) and the dosage intervals (we had to give every 4 hour opposed to every 8). After the next 2 rounds of chelation the process became a breeze. We were able to begin to see the positive effects the chelation was having on our son. CHELATION For those of you have that have chelated your children, what (if any) were the side effects or regressive behaviors you saw during the process. We are not formally chelating Sammy (yet) but we have been using Metal Free which is supposed to be a slow detoxifier. I have noticed that Sammy's obsessive compulsive behaviors, particularly with arranging things or lining things up, are getting worse, as are his tantrums when things don't go the way he wants them. I'm just wondering if this is just him having a hard time or if it's the Metal Free possibly doing some good (long term of course) in which case we'll just have to ride it out. We are about to move (next weekend) so he will be out of school for a while. I figured this was as good a time as any to try the Metal Free. We have seen no negative physical side affects from it, i.e., bowel or yeast problems. Thanks for any insight. ...about to go nuts with the move and his outbursts!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 When we are chelating I notice my son (15) is talking a bit faster by third day and a little over excited but in a happy way, not cranky. Noticed slight irritability after round finished for a day but then fine and quite willing to do next round. Been chelating for 6 months now and have just had four weeks break due to changing brands because of unavailability. Restarted 2 weeks ago with no ill effects but with improved concentration which was significant during neurofeedback session. We noticed really significant improvement in his general awareness, his " being present " , and definitely his speech, and ability to make more sense of experiences and to see behind the obvious, with chelation. I would encourage everyone to keep researching chelation/clearing metals until you are comfortable enough to do it. I believe that, along with the enzymes,it is playing a major part in bringing my son to a healthier and happier, more independent life. Fran Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 01:22:37PM +1000, Fran's optus wrote: > > When we are chelating I notice my son (15) is talking a bit faster by third Has anyone done chelation with a 30 year old? My husband is Autism Spectrum and I have kind of talked to our Naturopaths about Chelation but wanted to hear other people's responses. Thanks for all the information on Yeast combat btw. I finally got him to tell the doctor that the Oregano wasn't working and was making him ill. She put him on a compound that has Oregon grape extract and GSE in it. He is responding much better to it and it is finally clearing up. Which is nice since it has only been getting worse for the past 3+ years. -- Ganger sganger@... www.teawithstephanie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Dear Fran, It is refreshing to see an older child going through chelation and actually seeing benefits from it. My daughter is 14 and it is one therapy I have been considering but always afraid to start as she has been so aggressive since hitting puberty that we had to bring her home for awhile and do homebound instruction before finding a program where the staff is trained properly to deal with puberty issues in young adolescents with autism. Good luck! Re: Chelation > When we are chelating I notice my son (15) is talking a bit faster by third > day and a little over excited but in a happy way, not cranky. Noticed slight > irritability after round finished for a day but then fine and quite willing > to do next round. Been chelating for 6 months now and have just had four > weeks break due to changing brands because of unavailability. Restarted 2 > weeks ago with no ill effects but with improved concentration which was > significant during neurofeedback session. > We noticed really significant improvement in his general awareness, his > " being present " , and definitely his speech, and ability to make more sense > of experiences and to see behind the obvious, with chelation. > I would encourage everyone to keep researching chelation/clearing metals > until you are comfortable enough to do it. I believe that, along with the > enzymes,it is playing a major part in bringing my son to a healthier and > happier, more independent life. > Fran > Australia > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 > For those of you have that have chelated your children, what (if any) were > the side effects or regressive behaviors you saw during the process. This is my page describing my first 10 rounds or so http://www.danasview.net/chel1ten.htm The first " off " day can be a trial. Otherwise it was manageable. obsessive > compulsive behaviors, particularly with arranging things or lining things > up, are getting worse, as are his tantrums when things don't go the way he > wants them. Consider either an intolerance to one or more of the additives in the Metal Free, and/or a yeast issue. http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 We are currently chelating our nine year old and he has become LESS violent since we have started. -Phyllis Re: Chelation > When we are chelating I notice my son (15) is talking a bit faster by third > day and a little over excited but in a happy way, not cranky. Noticed slight > irritability after round finished for a day but then fine and quite willing > to do next round. Been chelating for 6 months now and have just had four > weeks break due to changing brands because of unavailability. Restarted 2 > weeks ago with no ill effects but with improved concentration which was > significant during neurofeedback session. > We noticed really significant improvement in his general awareness, his > " being present " , and definitely his speech, and ability to make more sense > of experiences and to see behind the obvious, with chelation. > I would encourage everyone to keep researching chelation/clearing metals > until you are comfortable enough to do it. I believe that, along with the > enzymes,it is playing a major part in bringing my son to a healthier and > happier, more independent life. > Fran > Australia > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 > Dana, > > Did you start with the DMSA or just do ALA chelation? ALA only. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 > Dana, > > How long did a round of chelation take? How long did you wait between rounds? I usually did a 3/4 schedule, altho sometimes I did 3/11 or 4/10. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 I am chelating my son without a Dr, there isn;t one more knowledgab;e about it thn me in the UK, so no choice. Help and support from Autism Mercury board Lots of info here http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ HTH Mandi in UK > Chelation is when you give a substance that binds to a heavy metal to a > person to leach the heavy metal out of their body. It should be doctor > supervised. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 <Chelation> Can you tell me what this is? What it does? and how to get it? Biro jaam1224@... Memory Keeping at Its Best Don't your priceless memories and photos deserve more than a shoe box? I can help quick and easy. Just ask, " How? " ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 > <Chelation> > > Can you tell me what this is? What it does? and how to get it? It is removing the heavy metals from the body. I have general information here http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm Chelation removed all my son's food issues, he can now eat whatever he wants, even without enzymes. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Ana, You can email me directly at bluerus@... for more info. My son started talking 3 days into DMSA chelation. It was truely a miracle for us. We chelated Jan - Dec 2002, did other things like enzymes in 2003, and then started DMSA/ALA chelation up again in Sept 2003 and will not stop until Sept 2004. Our results have been great. I also know others who have had good results. Put Autism in your subject so that it doesn't get tossed into my " junk " file. This group mainly focuses on the enzymes, which we also use daily. DebbieG > I want to chelate my 5 yr. old autistic son. He has been following > the protocal of yeast medications, blood tests etc.. with a DAN! dr. > Is this necessary, from anyone's experience, can I chelate on my > own? Blood tests & expensive meds are not cutting it for us. Thank > you for your advice. Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 > I want to chelate my 5 yr. old autistic son. He has been following > the protocal of yeast medications, blood tests etc.. with a DAN! dr. > Is this necessary, from anyone's experience, can I chelate on my > own I chelated all four of my kids on my own. My info page is here http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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