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Babs,

That is just what I am thinking. My MIL said I am too demanding and that I

should just take the meds they prescribe and not ask questions. she siad all

about the meds are on the slips the pharmacy gives out and that if I need more

info I can go online. It is so frustrating trying to explain to people that I

want to be an active participant in my care and that is how it SHOULD be. I do

not think asking questions about my treatment is demanding at all and that just

because a doc prescribes something that I should just take it= no questions

asked. I owe it to myself to get the best care I can get. period. why do so

many people just not get it????

ugh! The stress of it!!!!

thanks for your input.

Sandie

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Hi , what state do you live in?

Trzecinski <MTrez@...> wrote:Hi all, I seem not make friends. I

have other disablities beyond the Asperger's.I want to make friends but I seem

not. Thanks,

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Hi there, WI. Thanks,

Re: ( ) Help

> Hi , what state do you live in?

>

> Trzecinski <MTrez@...> wrote:Hi all, I seem not make

> friends. I have other disablities beyond the Asperger's.I want to make

> friends but I seem not. Thanks,

>

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, I'm from NY. I have two children who love to go to the lake an fish.

I don't like taking the fish off of the hook but I do. What do you like to do

on your free time?

Trzecinski <MTrez@...> wrote:Hi there, WI. Thanks,

Re: ( ) Help

> Hi , what state do you live in?

>

> Trzecinski <MTrez@...> wrote:Hi all, I seem not make

> friends. I have other disablities beyond the Asperger's.I want to make

> friends but I seem not. Thanks,

>

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Sweetie.. that SUCKS! honestly I swear.. us as parents need to make the

change... we must teach our children to be accepting of others

but.. on to you

do you belong to any groups .. or clubs??

I am learning a bit about you here..

how old are you?? what are your interests?

I think that like anything that doesn't come easy.. it's only with practice

that you get better at it.

My son and I practice making friends.. I teach him how " others " react to

certain things he may say or do.. without actually trying to change him too

much too.. I want him to be who he is.. as well.

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Hi all, I seem not make friends. I have other disablities beyond the

Asperger's.I want to make friends but I seem not. Thanks,

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> The teachers say once he catches up we could always move him back

> into a regular class

>

> Does aynone know if this is true because i know sometimes they tell

> you you can but when it is time for it to happen the child is stuck

> in a special class forever

************* Hi ......I don't know all the details and only you can

make the final call but it sounds like they have his best interest in

mind. I also don't think they would keep him in this class if he caught

up. Most schools are thinking about finances and if they can wean them

out of the special ed system they certainly will. My daughter went to

the special ed resource room in second grade for several hours each

day. In third grade she only left her regular classroom to take a

course with another third grade class where the special ed teacher was

a team teacher. Now in fourth they were going to keep her in the same

class all day long but there was a last minute change ( not anything to

do with her )and she is doing the same thing as last year. At the last

IEP meeting we attended they spoke about weaning her off of an IEP to a

504 plan by middle school. I was always concerned that things would get

worse as the grades progressed but to my surprise they have actually

improved with each year. Hope this helps in some way.

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sounds like you have a good school. some schools won't help even with a

diagnose. If you are concerned about them taking him out of the classroom into

a special ed class. Why not request he stay in the classroom and have special

ed services in the classroom & they can work with him in the class. Of course I

don't know your son. does he just need a little prompting once in a while?

what is he doing that they want to put him into a special ed class? If he can

spell the word at home and not at school, maybe he is overwhelmed in the

classroom or just needs an aid to prompt him. I would try to first find out

what the cause is. do you think he will do better in a special ed classroom?

or, his classroom with an aid prompting him. This is just my own experience

with schools, and just me. I feel the schools don't want to give up or spend

any money on our children. So, if the school is requesting that " It will help

your son " to go into a special ed classroom. It must be in your

sons best interest to go. These special ed classrooms do help, because they

are trained teachers for special needs children. He and you can get a lot of

help. believe me, as soon as he catches up, they will put him back into his

class! (that budget thing) He is getting older, the grades get harder, I

would get him all the help I can get him now. best luck to you and your son. I

would also explain to another doctor that your son fits the aspergers spectrum

more then autism. Explain why you feel that way. let your son get another

eval.

knjalvarez <knjalvarez@...> wrote: I have a son 7 1/2 who has been

diagnosed as autistic like behaviors

i have researched autism and think he may have aspergers' disorder

instead I would like to know how can we determine if it is

Asperger's or if it is high functioning autism

he started to talk at 9 months of age he never had a problem with

vocabulary but he does h ave a problem with the social interaction

and learning the easy stuff in school.

I decided to hold him back he is now in the 1st grade again. I

recently went to his parent teacher conference and the RSP teacher

was there and they are concerned with and how he is donig

better than last eyar but he is still no up to the full potential he

needs to be at. They talked to me about putting him into a special

class where he would get 100% help all the time and go at his pace.

I was taking him to school and he recognized so many letters he

spelled corn and pops and part of kelloggs , but when it comes to him

doing it in school he won't my thing is should we put him in a

special class or hope he overcomes this

He gets 50% help now

The teachers say once he catches up we could always move him back

into a regular class

Does aynone know if this is true because i know sometimes they tell

you you can but when it is time for it to happen the child is stuck

in a special class forever

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knjalvarez <knjalvarez@...> wrote:

I have a son 7 1/2 who has been diagnosed as autistic like behaviors

i have researched autism and think he may have aspergers' disorder

instead I would like to know how can we determine if it is

Asperger's or if it is high functioning autism

he started to talk at 9 months of age he never had a problem with

vocabulary but he does h ave a problem with the social interaction

and learning the easy stuff in school.

I decided to hold him back he is now in the 1st grade again. I

recently went to his parent teacher conference and the RSP teacher

was there and they are concerned with and how he is donig

better than last eyar but he is still no up to the full potential he

needs to be at. They talked to me about putting him into a special

class where he would get 100% help all the time and go at his pace.

I was taking him to school and he recognized so many letters he

spelled corn and pops and part of kelloggs , but when it comes to him

doing it in school he won't my thing is should we put him in a

special class or hope he overcomes this

He gets 50% help now

The teachers say once he catches up we could always move him back

into a regular class

Does aynone know if this is true because i know sometimes they tell

you you can but when it is time for it to happen the child is stuck

in a special class forever

The usual difference between HFA and AS is that kids with HFA do not develop

speech/communication at the appropriate ages. Kids with AS usually do, even

though they will have trouble understanding how to use language appropriately.

I read an interesting paper somewhere (Attwood's website maybe?) that discussed

how kids with autism, if they manage to develop language skills, they can

suddenly jump into the same trajectory as the one kids with AS are already on.

As for special education - that's a hard question. First, special education is

not a place, it's a service. Your child could receive sped services and be in

regular classes too. It all depends upon what your son needs. So I would

request that they first figure out what his needs are before talking about

moving him to another room. Have a full evaluation done by the school that

includes speech eval's (inc. pragmatics) and then you can meet as a team to

discuss what kind of services he needs and how best to do that.

One thing about sped that I know from experience - they put your kid in a room

and then they teach him more SLOWLY. How is he going to catch up to his peers

that way???? In order to not have that problem, you must be on top of what is

happening at all times. when my ds was in the 5th grade, they didn't have 5th

grade resource room materials because none of the sped kids had ever gotten that

far. I had to seriously push at all times to make sure he was kept at grade

level. (then came middle school, and it all went downhill, but that's another

post, lol.)

Roxanna

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Another idea is a IEP which is a learning plan that teachers have to follow.

Many things can be put in this plan such as for my nephew- they don't pick on

his writing. He is also provided with a aid to provide in class help. She goes

everywhere with him music, art etc. She pulls him out of the classroom and takes

him to a quiet place so he can work. He is not in special class and this has

worked well for him. Acedemically he is where he is supposed to be.( he is in

the first grade) The IEP also helps with behavior.

Roxanna Neely <roxanna_neely@...> wrote:

knjalvarez wrote:

I have a son 7 1/2 who has been diagnosed as autistic like behaviors

i have researched autism and think he may have aspergers' disorder

instead I would like to know how can we determine if it is

Asperger's or if it is high functioning autism

he started to talk at 9 months of age he never had a problem with

vocabulary but he does h ave a problem with the social interaction

and learning the easy stuff in school.

I decided to hold him back he is now in the 1st grade again. I

recently went to his parent teacher conference and the RSP teacher

was there and they are concerned with and how he is donig

better than last eyar but he is still no up to the full potential he

needs to be at. They talked to me about putting him into a special

class where he would get 100% help all the time and go at his pace.

I was taking him to school and he recognized so many letters he

spelled corn and pops and part of kelloggs , but when it comes to him

doing it in school he won't my thing is should we put him in a

special class or hope he overcomes this

He gets 50% help now

The teachers say once he catches up we could always move him back

into a regular class

Does aynone know if this is true because i know sometimes they tell

you you can but when it is time for it to happen the child is stuck

in a special class forever

The usual difference between HFA and AS is that kids with HFA do not develop

speech/communication at the appropriate ages. Kids with AS usually do, even

though they will have trouble understanding how to use language appropriately.

I read an interesting paper somewhere (Attwood's website maybe?) that discussed

how kids with autism, if they manage to develop language skills, they can

suddenly jump into the same trajectory as the one kids with AS are already on.

As for special education - that's a hard question. First, special education is

not a place, it's a service. Your child could receive sped services and be in

regular classes too. It all depends upon what your son needs. So I would request

that they first figure out what his needs are before talking about moving him to

another room. Have a full evaluation done by the school that includes speech

eval's (inc. pragmatics) and then you can meet as a team to discuss what kind of

services he needs and how best to do that.

One thing about sped that I know from experience - they put your kid in a room

and then they teach him more SLOWLY. How is he going to catch up to his peers

that way???? In order to not have that problem, you must be on top of what is

happening at all times. when my ds was in the 5th grade, they didn't have 5th

grade resource room materials because none of the sped kids had ever gotten that

far. I had to seriously push at all times to make sure he was kept at grade

level. (then came middle school, and it all went downhill, but that's another

post, lol.)

Roxanna

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Just Like Everyone Else

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-, Yes we have problems with our dd who has as, sm ,si, we have

never slept more than 4 hrs at a time she is 6.5 yrs. No problems with

going to the bathroom other than she will not go by herself and cant

flush ( to loud) Deb

>

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Hi . My 9 year old son, diagnosed on the spectrum, has always had

difficulties sleeping. He has alot of " routines " that we have to follow at

night. He didn't sleep through the night until he was 5. He does now thank

goodness. Pam :)

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My 10 yr ds with AS has a lot of trouble sleeping. I am still trying to asorb

all the wonderful advice offerred here but a few weeks back there was discussion

of weighted blankets helping with sleep issues. If anyone has experience with

them I'd loveit hear it.

rachael sheely <rosstigercox@...> wrote:my son has as, odd, adhd, and

sensory integration, does anyone else have issues with them not sleeping and

using the bathroom? especially at night??

thanks rachael

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Hi ,

YES, my son wakes up a lot through the night. (this is just about me). I don't

want to give him any medication. So, instead I get him involved in a lot of

activities. this helps but he rather sleep with me. I can't sleep when he's in

my bed, so I have to walk him back to his bed, sit with him a few seconds and

he'll fall back to sleep. He is 8. to make a long story short. I found out a

weight blanket would be just what he needs. When I tuck him into his bed. I

have to wrap the blanket around him tight. as he's sleeping, the blanket comes

off and wakes him up. A lot of people wrote different sites about where to buy

a weight blanket. I checked thought them all and found one that is at a price I

can afford. I'm ordering it from them. I'll let you know how it worked. -Rose

rachael sheely <rosstigercox@...> wrote:

my son has as, odd, adhd, and sensory integration, does anyone else have issues

with them not sleeping and using the bathroom? especially at night??

thanks rachael

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> a weight blanket. I checked thought them all and found one that is

>at a price I can afford. I'm ordering it from them. I'll let you know

>how it worked.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Rose,

Can you post the site that you found these blankets at???

THanks Marj

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Hello Marj,

I got this site from this support group.

its: http://www.saltoftheearthweightedgear.com

in case you can't get it. their phone number is: 1800 345-0579 they will tell

you to figure out how much weight to buy. it would be 10% of the persons body

weight. I was thinking of lying my son down. and put different weight stuff on

him to see if he wants more or less. or, ask if more weight can be added to the

blanket if he needs more.

another phone# 1800-845-1535. ask for a free catalog. or

kellystar734 <kellystar734@...> wrote:

> a weight blanket. I checked thought them all and found one that is

>at a price I can afford. I'm ordering it from them. I'll let you know

>how it worked.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Rose,

Can you post the site that you found these blankets at???

THanks Marj

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Marj,

continued, by accident I sent it out before I finished. the next number for

the weight blanket is # 1800-845-1535 www.abilitations.com ask for a free

catalog. the weight blankets in this catalog were a little to high in price for

me. but they have a lot of nice things for children with sensory issues. -

Rose

kellystar734 <kellystar734@...> wrote:

> a weight blanket. I checked thought them all and found one that is

>at a price I can afford. I'm ordering it from them. I'll let you know

>how it worked.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Rose,

Can you post the site that you found these blankets at???

THanks Marj

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Welcome to the group,

For my son loose stool is either indicative of Viral infection or food

intolerance.

I have noticed especially high Phenolic food are often problems for him and

since it is hard to remove all food, I give my son the following Houston

enzymes:

AFT Peptizide

Zyme prime

No-Fenol

This last one is especially important for Phenolic foods and particularly for

my son who is on GFCF diet.

Houston website has lots of discriptions on their enzymes and what kind of

food they help digest and so forth.

I am sure you have done food diaries before but with enzymes you may have to

go back to keeping food diary for a while. This is because your child may

still be reactive to certain food with enzymes and you can identify and remove

those. Also many people report that they have to experiment to find the proper

enzyme amount for their child diet and needs.

Reading on these enzymes on the Houston's website is good place to start.

http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/Section.asp?SID=3438 & N=Products

Best,

Haleh

--- s_hubal <s_hubal@...> wrote:

> Hello. i am new to this chat group. Hoping to find some much needed

> advice.

> Our 7 year old son is on the spectrum. He has had chronic diarrhea since

> birth. He has been gluten free for 2 years. He was Dairy free for a year,

> but

> currently is not. There were no changes with the removal of dairy. We have

>

> been to so many doctors. DAN doctors, neurologists, gastro docs. It is

> time to

> start thinking outside the box!! I am willing to do ANYTHING to stop the

> incontinence. Where should I start?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Haleh. I will get to work!

shubal

--- haleh niazmand <halniaz@...> wrote:

> Welcome to the group,

> For my son loose stool is either indicative of Viral

> infection or food

> intolerance.

> I have noticed especially high Phenolic food are

> often problems for him and

> since it is hard to remove all food, I give my son

> the following Houston

> enzymes:

> AFT Peptizide

> Zyme prime

> No-Fenol

> This last one is especially important for Phenolic

> foods and particularly for

> my son who is on GFCF diet.

> Houston website has lots of discriptions on their

> enzymes and what kind of

> food they help digest and so forth.

> I am sure you have done food diaries before but with

> enzymes you may have to

> go back to keeping food diary for a while. This is

> because your child may

> still be reactive to certain food with enzymes and

> you can identify and remove

> those. Also many people report that they have to

> experiment to find the proper

> enzyme amount for their child diet and needs.

> Reading on these enzymes on the Houston's website is

> good place to start.

>

>

http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/Section.asp?SID=3438 & N=Products

>

> Best,

> Haleh

>

>

> --- s_hubal <s_hubal@...> wrote:

>

> > Hello. i am new to this chat group. Hoping to

> find some much needed

> > advice.

> > Our 7 year old son is on the spectrum. He has had

> chronic diarrhea since

> > birth. He has been gluten free for 2 years. He

> was Dairy free for a year,

> > but

> > currently is not. There were no changes with the

> removal of dairy. We have

> >

> > been to so many doctors. DAN doctors,

> neurologists, gastro docs. It is

> > time to

> > start thinking outside the box!! I am willing to

> do ANYTHING to stop the

> > incontinence. Where should I start?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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While enzymes help our children, they do not take care of all intolerances.

It is a good idea to keep a food journal documenting what he eats and how he

reacts/behaves. That way you know better what may be a problem food. Also

anything you see in his mushy poop that may be undigested is another sign for

identifying problem foods.

Staying away from all artificial colors, flavors, MSG, chemical adetives,

processed food helped my son tremendously.

This is a long road and a rigorous process but the rewards of seeing our

children happy and recovering is more than worth it.

Is you child on GFCF diet. The diet has been so far the single most helpful

thing for my son. Some people can do enzymes without diet, some can't. My son

needs the diet and the enzymes.

Best,

Haleh

--- kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

> If you stop feeding your child any food that contain phenols, and are

> giving hin Houston no-fenol, and after he eats, his cheeks still turn

> pink, why would that be? Could it be yeast that turns his cheeks

> pink? Any suggestions for helping him sleep better at night? I give

> him melatonin, but it only lasts about an hour and a half. He sleeps

> about 3 or 4 hours a night. I also started giving him kirkman zinc,

> one in the morning, and one at bedtime, and his poop is still just as

> mushy.

>

>

>

>

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I put my child on the gfcf yeast and corn free diet about 2 and a half

months ago, and didn't see any difference. I started Houston peptizyde,

zyme prime and no-fenol about 2 months, didn't see any difference. I slowly

removed other foods, peanuts, sugar, honey, egg yolk, chocolate with

nothing. I added some supplements, calcium powder, zinc, B-6, bufferened

magnesium glycinate, taurine, pro-complex multi-vitamin, cod liver oil-

nothing. He sleeps just as crappy, cheeks get just as pink, and poop is

just as mushy, and no change in behavior. Today is day number 5 on an

elimination diet, chicken, egg white, potatoes, and buckwheat flour, also a

little canola oil and unrefined sea salt that I baked to kill the mold. And

his cheeks still get pink when he eats, he sleeps about 2-3 hours at night,

and his poop is mushy. I don't know what else to do. Am I still feeding him

something that he could be reacting to?

On 11/26/05, haleh niazmand <halniaz@...> wrote:

>

> While enzymes help our children, they do not take care of all

> intolerances.

> It is a good idea to keep a food journal documenting what he eats and how

> he

> reacts/behaves. That way you know better what may be a problem food. Also

> anything you see in his mushy poop that may be undigested is another sign

> for

> identifying problem foods.

> Staying away from all artificial colors, flavors, MSG, chemical adetives,

> processed food helped my son tremendously.

> This is a long road and a rigorous process but the rewards of seeing our

> children happy and recovering is more than worth it.

>

> Is you child on GFCF diet. The diet has been so far the single most

> helpful

> thing for my son. Some people can do enzymes without diet, some can't. My

> son

> needs the diet and the enzymes.

> Best,

> Haleh

>

>

> --- kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

>

> > If you stop feeding your child any food that contain phenols, and are

> > giving hin Houston no-fenol, and after he eats, his cheeks still turn

> > pink, why would that be? Could it be yeast that turns his cheeks

> > pink? Any suggestions for helping him sleep better at night? I give

> > him melatonin, but it only lasts about an hour and a half. He sleeps

> > about 3 or 4 hours a night. I also started giving him kirkman zinc,

> > one in the morning, and one at bedtime, and his poop is still just as

> > mushy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Eggs are a common food allergy. In my experience, beef is actually less

allergenic than

chicken. Lamb even less so. Potatoes can be a problem for some, rice is often

hypoallergenic unless a child has had a lot of it to replace wheat. My youngest

son

couldn't eat ANY cereal grains or potatoes, we had to give him plantain for a

carbohydrate.

(At that point I was unaware of buckwheat or other alternative non-cereal

grains, he's 30

now.) After years of elimination diets, I had a set of food allergy bloodtests

and my worst

allergies were to chicken, rice, bananas...stuff that's on elimination diets.

One way to tell if your child is allergic to something is if they act as if they

are addicted to

it and eat it all the time, or on the other hand, refuse to eat it at all

(although that is

obviously not always a sign of allergy). Are you still giving the supplements on

his present

diet? That could be the problem. I believe Dana's family was down to about 5

foods at one

point.

Cod liver oil is definitely a possible allergen. But if you have your small

child down to such

a small diet, I think professional guidance from an allergist or nutritionist

who is

sympathetic might be very helpful. I'd also try the Alpha Nutrition site at

www.nutramed.com They have some elemental diets which are pretty complete for a

short

period of time and extremely hypoallergenic, liquid diets. Then you can add one

thing

back at a time.

I did their Core Nutrition program a few years back and found it helpful.

Food allergies are such fun, (NOT!) LOL, I made an organic pumpkin pie this

Thanksgiving

and the crust was made with buckwheat, tapioca and millet flour and canola and

coconut

oil...it was really good, though!

Peace,

Kathy E.

Kathleen_E@...

-- In , Amber Eisler <eislerfamily@g...> wrote:

>

> I put my child on the gfcf yeast and corn free diet about 2 and a half

> months ago, and didn't see any difference. I started Houston peptizyde,

> zyme prime and no-fenol about 2 months, didn't see any difference. I slowly

> removed other foods, peanuts, sugar, honey, egg yolk, chocolate with

> nothing. I added some supplements, calcium powder, zinc, B-6, bufferened

> magnesium glycinate, taurine, pro-complex multi-vitamin, cod liver oil-

> nothing. He sleeps just as crappy, cheeks get just as pink, and poop is

> just as mushy, and no change in behavior. Today is day number 5 on an

> elimination diet, chicken, egg white, potatoes, and buckwheat flour, also a

> little canola oil and unrefined sea salt that I baked to kill the mold. And

> his cheeks still get pink when he eats, he sleeps about 2-3 hours at night,

> and his poop is mushy. I don't know what else to do. Am I still feeding him

> something that he could be reacting to?

>

> On 11/26/05, haleh niazmand <halniaz@y...> wrote:

> >

> > While enzymes help our children, they do not take care of all

> > intolerances.

> > It is a good idea to keep a food journal documenting what he eats and how

> > he

> > reacts/behaves. That way you know better what may be a problem food. Also

> > anything you see in his mushy poop that may be undigested is another sign

> > for

> > identifying problem foods.

> > Staying away from all artificial colors, flavors, MSG, chemical adetives,

> > processed food helped my son tremendously.

> > This is a long road and a rigorous process but the rewards of seeing our

> > children happy and recovering is more than worth it.

> >

> > Is you child on GFCF diet. The diet has been so far the single most

> > helpful

> > thing for my son. Some people can do enzymes without diet, some can't. My

> > son

> > needs the diet and the enzymes.

> > Best,

> > Haleh

> >

> >

> > --- kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@g...> wrote:

> >

> > > If you stop feeding your child any food that contain phenols, and are

> > > giving hin Houston no-fenol, and after he eats, his cheeks still turn

> > > pink, why would that be? Could it be yeast that turns his cheeks

> > > pink? Any suggestions for helping him sleep better at night? I give

> > > him melatonin, but it only lasts about an hour and a half. He sleeps

> > > about 3 or 4 hours a night. I also started giving him kirkman zinc,

> > > one in the morning, and one at bedtime, and his poop is still just as

> > > mushy.

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I know this is probably completely unhelpful, but have you had a stool

analysis, or organic acid test to see if there is a bacterial or

fungal problem? It might not be a food allergy, or even particular

food intolerance. As far as diet, have you tried the specific

carbohydrate diet? I have not, but it has helped some with

particularly troublesome digestive systems that don't respond to other

treatments. Recently I have also heard of some children with gut

problems doing well with Low dose naltrexone (Dr. McCandless has a

listserve Autism_LDN).

Hope things get better!

Judy

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> > > If you stop feeding your child any food that contain phenols,

and are

> > > giving hin Houston no-fenol, and after he eats, his cheeks still

turn

> > > pink, why would that be? Could it be yeast that turns his cheeks

> > > pink? Any suggestions for helping him sleep better at night? I

give

> > > him melatonin, but it only lasts about an hour and a half. He sleeps

> > > about 3 or 4 hours a night. I also started giving him kirkman zinc,

> > > one in the morning, and one at bedtime, and his poop is still

just as

> > > mushy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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