mold

[Guest guest]

Lee, I'm not sure why you posted on mold except that it does affect the lungs and so would the flu. At any rate I have had a little experience with mold. My story:

I'm very sensitive to mold and during the El Nino~ seasons in the late 90's I had moved into a new mobile home. I was fighting several health problems at once. My immune system was a mess from repeated rounds of antibiotics due to operations I'd had. The formaldehyde in the new mobile home was out-gassing, and add a roof leak down the wall into my bedroom closet and laundry room, through which rodents had establish co-residence...I was a sneezing, wheezing head-achy dizzy miserable mess! I was transferred to graveyard shift, couldn't sleep right...had Asthma which I'd never had and my body was full of Candida which is also a fungus that happens to be exacerbated by mold. The mold really played on that! And then I got terrible dust allergies. I ripped out my bedroom carpet, used washable throw rugs, washed everything down with bleach, and got an Austin Air purifier (NOT an ozone generator~ they are bad). I put the air purifier

in the bedroom and slept with the door shut. WOW. I got better real fast. The air purifier helped to outages the formaldehyde in the room I slept, too. Things got better fast. The dangerous rodent infestation just compounded the health hazard. I had to use thick rubber gloves and a good mask when disinfecting that area of my home. Don't breathe too much bleach. The fumes go through the mask. Hold your breath a lot. But it's a blessed substance for disinfecting and killing mold. To this day I'm very allergic to some smells like mold and cigarette smoke for sure! I pity people who have to live with it. In many cases experts are needed to be called in. I would never live like that or subject my kids to it. It's really awful stuff. I'd rather live in a little clean cardboard box that didn't have mold than a palace that did.

of Dewberry Hill (that's my mold story and bleach really did kill my mold. I was lucky that it was not inside the walls or hidden too badly...like may homes. Oh! Business are just as susceptible...and if the employer won't get it fixed...find another job!)Lee <jackal ope_Lepus@Hot mail.com> wrote:

MoldHomeowners are at odds with builders and insurers over who should pay to clean up 'toxic' varieties.

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone here tried this product? In what way is it superior to the

biozone air purifier? Do I assume that you only use this product on a needs

basis rather than leaving it on all the time?

What is the costs of running this machine?

Val

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Cliff

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami,

Those Petri dishes look scary. I’ve never done a mold test. Is it possible to have no reaction, or are your samples typical of what is every where around us? Does the test give a guide of the different colors you see?

I hope you get this under control.

Take care,

Pam

On 7/5/06 2:28 PM, " Tami Klumpyan " <tami@...> wrote:

Just me again. I meant to say that the one with the big green spots are the mold spores that have been growing for 8 days, not two. I think I better go lay down for a little while so I can think clearer.

Tami

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

I don't have a color code for the mold. I think even different colors can be in the same family of mold. I'll find out more over the next week or so and let you know how this works.

I had no idea I had this much of a problem.

Tami

Re: mold

Hi Tami,Those Petri dishes look scary. I’ve never done a mold test. Is it possible to have no reaction, or are your samples typical of what is every where around us? Does the test give a guide of the different colors you see?I hope you get this under control.Take care,PamOn 7/5/06 2:28 PM, "Tami Klumpyan" <tami@...> wrote:

Just me again. I meant to say that the one with the big green spots are the mold spores that have been growing for 8 days, not two. I think I better go lay down for a little while so I can think clearer.Tami

[Guest guest]

> I think the only way to combat health problems arising from

> mold is first move out of the property

Note that ozone generators will kill off mold.

I just moved into a house with new carpet, new paint,

new furniture, and without my ozone generators I would

have a terrible time withstanding all the offgassing...

Marc

[Guest guest]

Joanee Webb wrote:

> , I am one of the people who believe your point of view, have

read Shoemaker's work, think you are correct! You should get some

support for being bright and figuring out this very important

reason for many people's CFS,

Joanee

>

Thanks. Thank you very much.

I don't know about bright, but I sure was desperate.

I wanted to be able to predict when I could stand up.

Go places, and eat normal food without being sick.

Be something like a normal person and have a life of some kind.

Anything other than what was happening to me.

And just for a while, to be free of the unremitting mind boggling

sense that every cell in my body was sending all of its stored

potential for pain and anxiety to my brain.

I took a wild leap at a bizarre notion and instead of taking an

interest, was ridiculed and dismissed by CFS researchers, CFS

doctors AND CFS sufferers alike, BECAUSE I experienced an unexpected

level of recovery.

I could possibly fake a picture of myself on Mt Whitney, but how

could I fake walking directly out of the ampligen screening

protocols to do this?

It is easy to ask Dr if I was there or not.

Even if I were the only one, and my inclusion in the origin of CFS

was nothing more than a fluke and a mistake, the lesson we still

need to learn from this is contained in Shoemakers quotation:

" In the face of obvious abnormalities, skepticism is inappropriate "

-

[Guest guest]

HI ,

I believe the mold issue is a huge part for myself and my family, too. No

doubt. I do believe our genetics play a strong roll with our vulnerability, too.

Thanks so much for your hard work and support.

Sue T

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Joanee Webb wrote:

> , I am one of the people who believe your point of view, have

read Shoemaker's work, think you are correct! You should get some

support for being bright and figuring out this very important

reason for many people's CFS,

Joanee

>

Thanks. Thank you very much.

I don't know about bright, but I sure was desperate.

I wanted to be able to predict when I could stand up.

Go places, and eat normal food without being sick.

Be something like a normal person and have a life of some kind.

Anything other than what was happening to me.

And just for a while, to be free of the unremitting mind boggling

sense that every cell in my body was sending all of its stored

potential for pain and anxiety to my brain.

I took a wild leap at a bizarre notion and instead of taking an

interest, was ridiculed and dismissed by CFS researchers, CFS

doctors AND CFS sufferers alike, BECAUSE I experienced an unexpected

level of recovery.

I could possibly fake a picture of myself on Mt Whitney, but how

could I fake walking directly out of the ampligen screening

protocols to do this?

It is easy to ask Dr if I was there or not.

Even if I were the only one, and my inclusion in the origin of CFS

was nothing more than a fluke and a mistake, the lesson we still

need to learn from this is contained in Shoemakers quotation:

" In the face of obvious abnormalities, skepticism is inappropriate "

-

[Guest guest]

I would still like to know other's experience. what kind of delay is

there between entering a mold-y area and feeling worse? What kind of

delay is there in exiting a mold-y area and feeling better?

[Guest guest]

" H. Wish " wrote:

> I would still like to know other's experience. what kind of delay

is there between entering a mold-y area and feeling worse? What

kind of delay is there in exiting a mold-y area and feeling better?

>

The full activation of immune complement factors typically takes

four hours after exposure.

But if exposure is not reduced to a spectacular minimum, the anti-

inflammatory cytokines fail to shut down the response and the

inflammatory response continues interminably. This inflammatory

response is a generalized sensation and is a separate arm of

the " innate " immune system.

This is not like an allergy, in which one enters and is " hit " and

then exits and the problem is gone and done with.

It's more like Carbon Monoxide poisoning that gradually buids up in

the tissues. Only in this case, the toxins reprogram immune

responses as well.

Yes, there is " allergy " in mold. So people with mold problems are

referred to allergists, when it would have been more appropriate to

see an toxicologist - if the molds involved are toxin producers.

In the past, any symptoms associated with mold that were NOT

explained by allergic concepts were simply attributed to something

unrelated, or as wild exaggerations. Neurotoxic mold illness was

literally HIDING behind a profession that failed to see the clues

which indicated that they didn't have the full picture of mold's

capacities. Exactly the same as the medical systems failure to look

for H Pylori because the dogma that stress is the cause of ulcers

was so unshakeable, even by powerful clues to bacterial causes.

When allergists told me that this response was impossible and told

me to see a doctor, doctors told me " I'm a doctor, I treat people,

not study mold. If you want to know about molds, see a mycologist " .

When I went to a mycologist, I was told " I study mold, not people,

if you want to know the effects of mold toxins on people, you must

see a toxicologist " When I saw a toxicologist, I was told " Mold

toxins are everywhere, if you want to know the specific effect of

mold toxins on people, you must see an immunologist " When I went

to an immunologist, I was told, " That is outside of my specialty, if

you want to know the effects of mold, you must see an allergist " .

And each one passed the buck until I was right back where I started.

The bottom line is that it takes a bit of knowledge from ALL of

these specialities to understand what is going on.

-

[Guest guest]

On Jul 18, 2006, at 7:52 AM, H. Wish wrote:

> I would still like to know other's experience. what kind of delay is

> there between entering a mold-y area and feeling worse? What kind of

> delay is there in exiting a mold-y area and feeling better?

Going in: 15 to 45 minutes, depending on mold type and quantity.

Going out: Can be a couple hours. Can be a couple days. Sleep is

almost always involved.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Excuse me, but it is not just 's experiences. Mold and mold toxins

are a key factor in CFS in fact, 25% of the population have genetic

flaws that do not allow their immune systems to identify mold and their

toxins, therby allowing these toxins to create a complicated cascade of

events internally. Perhaps " Mold Warriers " by Richie Shoemaker, MD

should be required reading here, Joanee

erikmoldwarrior wrote:

> Jill McLaughlin wrote:

>

>

>

>>No it is not a contradiction to not accept your experiences

>>

>>

>as ours, which you foist on us ad nauseum while you try to pretend

>to be THE CFS prototype and attack anyone who does not go along with

>it - or just plain gets sick of hearing about it and Incline

>village - your version. Incline Village outbreak was significant and

>meticulously detailed in Oslers Web, which I would strongly

>recommend for historical perspective.

>

>

>>However would respect that this list is mainly for treatment

>>

>>

>discussion and think that people who are sensitive to mold of course

>would be best to avoid it and think we realize that bleach is

>effective in eliminating it. Have no interest in engaging in or

>being sucked into your unrelenting nonsensical mind games and

>correcting your erroneous illogical statements. Of course we

>can all delete, but this is a huge time waster.

>

>

>>Jill

>>

>>

>

>

>You are confused about " THE " CFS prototype.

>There were a number of us that participated in the study group to

>define CFS.

>

> It is a common mistake to " think you realize that bleach is

>effective " until you consult the literature on mycotoxins and find

>that it is does not remove or denature mycotoxins.

>-

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I seem to really get sicker with sinus congestion pressure headaches & aching

all over, painful Fibro muscle & joint stiffness & pain when the weather gets

overcast or cooler.

When it is hot & sunny I always feel better, though the heat is hard to deal

with. I am pretty sure it must be mold affecting me as I know I am very

sensitive to it. I have a hillside with a lot of trees & vegetation behind my

house

that I know gets moldy when it rains. But it has not rained lately, been hot

then a few cooler days & a bit overcast.

Does anyone else notice the overcast or damp weather sets off mold reaction

symptoms? Or does it just reactivate if you already have a lot of mold toxins

in your system?

Does Yasko say anything about detoxing or dealing with Mold toxins in her

programs?

C J

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

That makes a lot of sense to me. I know I am very senstive to mold having

been tested & it is just such a drastic change in how & feel & symproms when the

weather changes. Does not seem to affect my emotions but I know it does for a

lot of people.

I definitely get really bad sinus pressure headaches in the rainy season. So

it was very drastic having a heat spell & then all of a sudden my winter

symptoms popping up. I do everything I can to control mold. I keep an fan

blowing

under my bed & in closest when I am not in the room & leave lights on & have

an Ultra violet air sterilzer in my bedroom.

[Guest guest]

Hi CJ,

Your note struck me, although I don't think I can shed light on the

mold issues. It struck me, though, because I had just noticed

yesterday, with me, that ALL my allergic reactions, symptoms, have

subsided in the last 2-3 months. I have no idea why this is, other

than what I started doing to try to deal with those things that I

know are " wrong " with me. But when I started high doses of vitamin

D3 and B vitamins and fish oil and magnesium, plus the antifungal and

antiviral routines, and I threw out eating the bit of wheat I ate

plus stopped eating/drinking food with additives...in my attempts to

deal with body pain and infection...my allergies suddenly became

1000th of what they had been.

I still take a 24-hour tablet, loratadine, because I have multiple

fuzzballs, but I used to have to augment that with other

antihistamines during the day, too. Now I don't have to do that.

And the awful head, eye, nose stuff and headaches are gone.

The point that I'm amazing myself with is that by dealing with these

other things that have plagued me, I inadverently cleared up

something that was highly annoying but that I hadn't been focusing

on. I've surprised even myself!

in Champaign IL

>

> I seem to really get sicker with sinus congestion pressure

headaches & aching

> all over, painful Fibro muscle & joint stiffness & pain when the

weather gets

> overcast or cooler.

> When it is hot & sunny I always feel better, though the heat is

hard to deal

> with. I am pretty sure it must be mold affecting me as I know I am

very

> sensitive to it. I have a hillside with a lot of trees & vegetation

behind my house

> that I know gets moldy when it rains. But it has not rained lately,

been hot

> then a few cooler days & a bit overcast.

> Does anyone else notice the overcast or damp weather sets off mold

reaction

> symptoms? Or does it just reactivate if you already have a lot of

mold toxins

> in your system?

> Does Yasko say anything about detoxing or dealing with Mold toxins

in her

> programs?

> C J

>

[Guest guest]

Cbuf1920@... wrote:

>

> I seem to really get sicker with sinus congestion pressure

headaches & aching all over, painful Fibro muscle & joint stiffness

& pain when the weather gets overcast or cooler.

> When it is hot & sunny I always feel better, though the heat is

hard to deal with. I am pretty sure it must be mold affecting me as

I know I am very sensitive to it. I have a hillside with a lot of

trees & vegetation behind my house that I know gets moldy when it

rains. But it has not rained lately, been hot then a few cooler days

& a bit overcast.

Does anyone else notice the overcast or damp weather sets off mold

reaction symptoms? Or does it just reactivate if you already have a

lot of mold toxins in your system?

> C J

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Sat May 10, 2003 3:38 pm

Subject: " Change in The Weather "

It has been my experience that exacerbation of symptoms in

association with " change in the weather " are due to an

inflammatory response from increased ambient levels of mycotoxins

that are released by barometric pressure change and humidity.

I came up with the bizarre notion that anxiety and depression were

not useless uncontrolled emotional responses, but perhaps a survival

mechanism the body uses to convey useful information about toxic

exposures and immunological dysfunction.

It would be an awful waste for the body to create such a powerful

" emotional " response for no other purpose than torment.

It seemed to me that if an animal were living in a stressful or toxic

environment that anxiety and depression would be responses that the

immune system could create to pursuade the animal to alter its

circumstances.

By treating anx/dep as an indicator of toxic exposure I soon

identified Stachybotrys as my primary irritant.

By experimentation I discovered that mold spores appear to have a

property that explains my symptoms at certain times and under

specific circumstances .

The spores appear to be constructed in such a manner as to be always

increasing their internal pressure of mycotoxins and are steadily

working up to the point of rupture and mycotoxin release.

Accumulations of spores have a constant but low level of release at

stable barometric pressure.

This low level release can be almost completely stopped during good

weather and high atmospheric pressure.

The danger point is during the sudden drop in barometric pressure

preceding a cold weather front. The pressure gradient ruptures a

greater percentage of spores and creates a sudden increase in ambient

levels of mycotoxins.

My symptoms correlate to the combination of the degree of spore

contamination in an area and the level of mycotoxin release

determined by the barometric pressure gradient.

This is why I always ask people if their symptoms are exacerbated by

a change in the weather. My theory is that all people affected by

weather change are manifesting a sensitivity to mold toxins.

We are always undergoing changes in air pressure.

It may be anything from a ride in an airplane or an elevator or just

going up or downhill in a car, but if people associate exacerbation

of their symptoms with the barometric pressure drop accompanying bad

weather and not with the other daily pressure gradients that we move

through, the difference in the potential for this response most

likely finds its cause in the change in ambient levels of mycotoxins

that are released by a sudden drop in air pressure.

If it were from getting wet - swimmers would always be sick.

If it were from changes in air pressure - pilots would always be

sick.

If it were from the cold - eskimos would always be sick.

I believe that anyone whose symptoms are exacerbated by " change in

the weather " are really responding to the release of mycotoxins.

Using my " emotional " responses as a gude for avoidance of places

where I get an inflammatory response from mold has given me more

relief than anything else I've ever tried.

-

[Guest guest]

All sorts of weather affects me all sorts of ways.

When its real hot, even if I am in a cool place I feel sicker.

Sometimes an approaching storm energizes me, sometimes makes me really

sleepy/tired/weak and I have never figured out what's different.

Too many days in a row over overcast and I start getting depressed.

We are having lot of intermittent coolness w. dampness. Very, very unusual for

July here. I am enjoying it a lot. I like it better than heat plus

air-conditioning.

Hope this helps.

Adrienne

Re: Re: Mold

I seem to really get sicker with sinus congestion pressure headaches & aching

all over, painful Fibro muscle & joint stiffness & pain when the weather gets

overcast or cooler.

When it is hot & sunny I always feel better, though the heat is hard to deal

with. I am pretty sure it must be mold affecting me as I know I am very

sensitive to it. I have a hillside with a lot of trees & vegetation behind my

house

that I know gets moldy when it rains. But it has not rained lately, been hot

then a few cooler days & a bit overcast.

Does anyone else notice the overcast or damp weather sets off mold reaction

symptoms? Or does it just reactivate if you already have a lot of mold toxins

in your system?

Does Yasko say anything about detoxing or dealing with Mold toxins in her

programs?

C J

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

It's really good to hear that these things helped you in ways you

didn't expect.

Rich

>

> Hi CJ,

>

> Your note struck me, although I don't think I can shed light on

the

> mold issues. It struck me, though, because I had just noticed

> yesterday, with me, that ALL my allergic reactions, symptoms, have

> subsided in the last 2-3 months. I have no idea why this is,

other

> than what I started doing to try to deal with those things that I

> know are " wrong " with me. But when I started high doses of

vitamin

> D3 and B vitamins and fish oil and magnesium, plus the antifungal

and

> antiviral routines, and I threw out eating the bit of wheat I ate

> plus stopped eating/drinking food with additives...in my attempts

to

> deal with body pain and infection...my allergies suddenly became

> 1000th of what they had been.

>

> I still take a 24-hour tablet, loratadine, because I have multiple

> fuzzballs, but I used to have to augment that with other

> antihistamines during the day, too. Now I don't have to do that.

> And the awful head, eye, nose stuff and headaches are gone.

>

> The point that I'm amazing myself with is that by dealing with

these

> other things that have plagued me, I inadverently cleared up

> something that was highly annoying but that I hadn't been focusing

> on. I've surprised even myself!

>

>

> in Champaign IL

[Guest guest]

When I was first sick before I knew I had something besides arthritis traveling

from one place to another day by day, I noticed then big changes according to

weather. Cold, damp = increased aching. Rapid barometric changes = increased

aching

A/C = aching Hot humid weather = BLAH, head is like a bolder sitting on

shoulders that are too weak to hold it, sluggish, achy Very narrow temperature

tolerance 68 - 70 and low humidity is ideal.

Diane in MI

Re: Re: Mold

All sorts of weather affects me all sorts of ways.

When its real hot, even if I am in a cool place I feel sicker.

Sometimes an approaching storm energizes me, sometimes makes me really

sleepy/tired/weak and I have never figured out what's different.

Too many days in a row over overcast and I start getting depressed.

We are having lot of intermittent coolness w. dampness. Very, very unusual for

July here. I am enjoying it a lot. I like it better than heat plus

air-conditioning.

Hope this helps.

Adrienne

.

[Guest guest]

Mold exposure it TOTALLY different than having candida. Especially if it is

stachybotrys. I lived in a house with stachy for ten years. It almost

killed me. I am getting better now but it is taking time. A nasty thing it

is.

Bill

Dallas, Texas

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

Yes. Yes and YES!! Moldy houses caused candida problems for me and my family.

We moved into a moldy house (nothing visible). Within 2 years, I had arthritis,

headaches, sinus problems and finally diarrhea and leaky gut. My daughter was

in the room with the mold (in between the walls, behind wallpaper). She had a

bloody nose almost every night, did poorly in school, had headaches, bronchitis,

etc. She was so bad that even one taste of sugar made her vomit. We finally

discovered the reason for our health problems. MOLD!. We moved from the house

upon doctor's recommendation. I am better after starting the Whey, selenium and

inulin just last Monday!!!!

[Guest guest]

I agree 100%. We have not only changed what we put into our bodies, but also what surrounds us. It has made a remarkable difference to our health and day to day energy levels.

a

Down Syndrome Treatment From: gldcst@...Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:06:43 -0500Subject: Mold

Below are just a couple of sites in a quick search under environmental illness, multiple chemical sensitivities, sick building syndrome etc. We had to get into this whole area of medicine 18 years ago when everyone thought we were nuts. But I have learned you can get alot sicker from indoor air and a sick house or school than you can from run of the mill germs. It's a huge problem and mold...to us is the chief offender. It takes alot of work to get rid of it but is well worth the trouble. I'm one of those crazies who believe that our toxic environment is a large cause of our kid's illnesses and behaviors, depression, allergies and so many of our modern day "mystery" illnesses.

It's overwhelming to think of changing so many of the products we're familiar with but once we did a major unveiling of all our allergens, both chemical, inhalant, food and animal it made a terrific positive impact on our lives.

I'm sure many of you have read Doris Rapp's books "Is This Your Child?" and "Is This Your Child's School?" I hope I'm not coming off as superior or whatever about this stuff because believe me I fought changeing our environment with every fibre of my being. I thought it was crazy and too much work. But having a child with Autism forced me into alot of changes I never thought I'd make.

Sherry

http://www.webmd.com/allergies/tc/environmental-illness-overview?page=3

http://www.ourlittleplace.com/mcs.html

http://health./emergency-overview/environmental-illness/healthwise--zp3199.html

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[Guest guest]

You are NOT crazy. You are so correct.

So very correct.

>

> Below are just a couple of sites in a quick search under

environmental illness, multiple chemical sensitivities, sick

building syndrome etc. We had to get into this whole area of

medicine 18 years ago when everyone thought we were nuts. But I have

learned you can get alot sicker from indoor air and a sick house or

school than you can from run of the mill germs. It's a huge problem

and mold...to us is the chief offender. It takes alot of work to get

rid of it but is well worth the trouble. I'm one of those crazies

who believe that our toxic environment is a large cause of our kid's

illnesses and behaviors, depression, allergies and so many of our

modern day " mystery " illnesses.

>

> It's overwhelming to think of changing so many of the products

we're familiar with but once we did a major unveiling of all our

allergens, both chemical, inhalant, food and animal it made a

terrific positive impact on our lives.

>

> I'm sure many of you have read Doris Rapp's books " Is This Your

Child? " and " Is This Your Child's School? " I hope I'm not coming off

as superior or whatever about this stuff because believe me I fought

changeing our environment with every fibre of my being. I thought it

was crazy and too much work. But having a child with Autism forced

me into alot of changes I never thought I'd make.

> Sherry

>

>

>

> http://www.webmd.com/allergies/tc/environmental-illness-overview?

page=3

>

>

> http://www.ourlittleplace.com/mcs.html

>

>

> http://health./emergency-overview/environmental-

illness/healthwise--zp3199.html

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

sorry if I thought your message was directed at me and it's at someone else; I

mentioned Borax, which is different than bleach. I was aware not to use bleach

for mold.

Sorry for the confusion if you meant somebody else, I've lost track of the

thread of messages.

R.

>

> Hi, I am new to the group. I noticed you mentioned using bleach to get rid of

mold. This will only create a more toxic environment. Bleach has been linked to

the rising rate of breast cancer in women. Tea Tree oil with hot water works

well - 20 drops in 1/4 cup of hot water or a 3-4% sodium carbonate solution

(also known as soda ash or washing soda). Wear gloves and a mask. If you are

sensitive, have someone else clean it for you.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, no it wasn't directed to you. Someone else had mentioned Clorox.

> >

> > Hi, I am new to the group. I noticed you mentioned using bleach to get rid

of mold. This will only create a more toxic environment. Bleach has been linked

to the rising rate of breast cancer in women. Tea Tree oil with hot water works

well - 20 drops in 1/4 cup of hot water or a 3-4% sodium carbonate solution

(also known as soda ash or washing soda). Wear gloves and a mask. If you are

sensitive, have someone else clean it for you.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marc,

ozone will kill mold, but ozone is also toxic to us and plants and pets. I hope

that you are using the ozone when you are not home and air out your home for a

few days before you return.

Ky

>

> > I think the only way to combat health problems arising from

> > mold is first move out of the property

>

> Note that ozone generators will kill off mold.

>

> I just moved into a house with new carpet, new paint,

> new furniture, and without my ozone generators I would

> have a terrible time withstanding all the offgassing...

>

> Marc

>