mold

[Guest guest]

> ozone will kill mold, but ozone is also toxic to us and plants and

> pets. I hope that you are using the ozone when you are not home and

> air out your home for a few days before you return.

Well, be careful about making that assertion, since that is an area

of much controversy. Ozone is present in fresh outdoor air, so much so

that I can smell it when I go outside. The levels of ozone I keep

inside my house are so low that I can only really smell it when I

walk by an ozone generator. At those levels, it's perfectly fine,

and it keeps the smells from the pets away (which is why I'm using it

in the first place).

But I agree that one should keep the ozone generators away from where

pets may hang out, as they are more sensititive.

Marc

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 31/05/2009 06:43:07 GMT Daylight Time,

marc@... writes:

inside my house are so low that I can only really smell it when I

walk by an ozone generator. At those levels, it's perfectly fine,

and it keeps the smells from the pets away (which is why I'm using it

in the first place).

But I agree that one should keep the ozone generators away from where

pets may hang out, as they are more sensititive.

Marc

I should imagine that thw Ozone produced by the generators is a slightly

different composition than general airborne stuff so you have that one to

think of

[Guest guest]

My apologies. Thanks!

R.

> > >

> > > Hi, I am new to the group. I noticed you mentioned using bleach to get rid

of mold. This will only create a more toxic environment. Bleach has been linked

to the rising rate of breast cancer in women. Tea Tree oil with hot water works

well - 20 drops in 1/4 cup of hot water or a 3-4% sodium carbonate solution

(also known as soda ash or washing soda). Wear gloves and a mask. If you are

sensitive, have someone else clean it for you.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

There are all types of ozonators & they have to be very strong to kill the mold.

I would not rely on that. Tried it, didn't work for me. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: mold

Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 10:38 PM

> ozone will kill mold, but ozone is also toxic to us and plants and

> pets. I hope that you are using the ozone when you are not home and

> air out your home for a few days before you return.

Well, be careful about making that assertion, since that is an area

of much controversy. Ozone is present in fresh outdoor air, so much so

that I can smell it when I go outside. The levels of ozone I keep

inside my house are so low that I can only really smell it when I

walk by an ozone generator. At those levels, it's perfectly fine,

and it keeps the smells from the pets away (which is why I'm using it

in the first place).

But I agree that one should keep the ozone generators away from where

pets may hang out, as they are more sensititive.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> There are all types of ozonators & they have to be very strong to kill

> the mold. I would not rely on that. Tried it, didn't work for me. Loni

Yes, and the stong ozone generators are not what I use for reducing

pet odors. For continuous use, I use the weakest of the weak.

Also, if you try various types of ozone generators, you may notice

that the ozone smell coming from them are slightly different.

Unfortunately the ones that have the best smell have their

shortcomings in other areas -- Air-Zone models are too noisy,

and Aranizer models tend to self-destruct in about a year. :-(

Marc

[Guest guest]

I also think that they are very dangerous to use with people like us that cannot

handle the smallest amount of toxins. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: mold

Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 10:42 AM

> There are all types of ozonators & they have to be very strong to kill

> the mold. I would not rely on that. Tried it, didn't work for me. Loni

Yes, and the stong ozone generators are not what I use for reducing

pet odors. For continuous use, I use the weakest of the weak.

Also, if you try various types of ozone generators, you may notice

that the ozone smell coming from them are slightly different.

Unfortunately the ones that have the best smell have their

shortcomings in other areas -- Air-Zone models are too noisy,

and Aranizer models tend to self-destruct in about a year. :-(

Marc

[Guest guest]

Mix boric acid with hydrogen peroxide and spray it on the mold.  This has no

wild toxic smell like bleach and does a better job.  It doesnt smell and is very

economical.  Mike in Phoenix.

From: rticleone <rticleone@...>

Subject: Re: mold

Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 8:16 AM

Hi there,

sorry if I thought your message was directed at me and it's at someone else; I

mentioned Borax, which is different than bleach. I was aware not to use bleach

for mold.

Sorry for the confusion if you meant somebody else, I've lost track of the

thread of messages.

R.

>

> Hi, I am new to the group. I noticed you mentioned using bleach to get rid of

mold. This will only create a more toxic environment. Bleach has been linked to

the rising rate of breast cancer in women. Tea Tree oil with hot water works

well - 20 drops in 1/4 cup of hot water or a 3-4% sodium carbonate solution

(also known as soda ash or washing soda). Wear gloves and a mask. If you are

sensitive, have someone else clean it for you.

>

[Guest guest]

I've been wondering that too. How do you test for mold issues though?

Especially toxic mold. We had mold in the attic and had the whole roof and

boards replaced. Briefly my EOS (eosophils) numbers went up but are back to

normal. Is there another way to test for mold issues?

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Been lurking here for some time.

A little backround - have a son who has had brain fog and energy issues for

8 years +. Currently seeing Dr Cowden for the last year so very familiar

with that protocol - and have been treated for Lyme. According to Dr Cowden

- Borreilia (sp), Bart and Babesia now under control. Unfortunately we are

still dealing with the same symptoms.

So now we are chasing mold - just tested the house and we have + samples. So

off to Dr Shoemaker we go to have our VCS test evaluated to hopefully

identify the source of the biotoxin load.

I am most interested in any help with mold as we have attacked the Lyme from

the herbal, antibiotics rife etc etc side for years with little to show for

it.

From all we read - Klinghardt, Kane, Cowden, Yasko etc - the current culprit

appears to be the biotxin load inhibiting proper mitochondrial production,

It is the causes of the biotoxins that needs to be identified - will keep

all posted.

Cheers -

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jay A. Rovert

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:04 PM

lyme_Aid_Buhner

Subject: [ ] MOLD

Hello Group,

Has there been a conversation about mold infections? As in...if we do have

mold issues then the potential is that none of these other remedies will

work?

Jay

[Guest guest]

Jay,

I have really high mold antagens lately. Why would that mean none of the

protocols or herbs would work???

W

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jay A. Rovert

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:04 PM

lyme_Aid_Buhner

Subject: [ ] MOLD

Hello Group,

Has there been a conversation about mold infections? As in...if we do have

mold issues then the potential is that none of these other remedies will

work?

Jay

[Guest guest]

,

Please confer with your Doc.....It may be a " sales pitch or it may be

sciemntifically based but supposedly symptoms from Mold are very similar (Bianca

Jagger) & the condition makes it almost impossible to detox.

Jay

[ ] MOLD

Hello Group,

Has there been a conversation about mold infections? As in...if we do have

mold issues then the potential is that none of these other remedies will

work?

Jay

[Guest guest]

Andy,

Which rife machine do you use?

Which frequencies?

Jay

[ ] MOLD

Hello Group,

Has there been a conversation about mold infections? As in...if we do have

mold issues then the potential is that none of these other remedies will

work?

Jay

[Guest guest]

I had my basement flood a couple of years ago, February storm and the

ground was frozen solid, so it found it's way into my basement. I have a

sub-pump, but the darn thing died during the flood. Mold grew very

quickly from the dampness. I had remedial cleanup done. The fella said

mold can't grow if there's a constant flow of air, so he told me to invest

in some oscillating fans, I turn them on low and it does the trick. I

also have one that goes in a crawl space that sometimes get damp, it's

stationary, and he said to place it on an angle at one wall and it'll

bounce off the other walls and keep a constant flow of air. A lot cheaper

than water/mold cleanup. I also have a dehumidifier and a new sub-pump!

I spent a lot of time in the basement frantically sweeping the water into

the sub-pump, a lot of mold grew every where and I was exposed to it for a

long time, (I didn't feel well after that) since then I've had issues w/my

sinus's/eye's hurt; feels like a sinus infection, I've been back 'n forth

to the ENT, he says he doesn't see a sinus infection.

I believe I have a fungal infection, has anyone dealt w/this issue? I

read a post earlier about someone using colloidal silver drops in the eye

and I believe DMSO. Do you think I could put either of these into a

sinus/eye areas to kill the infection?

Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

I have found out that my family and I are living in toxic mold.  I started

experiencing energy sensitivity after we moved in.  Heads up to everyone on

mold.  I am doing better now thanks to tons of supplements, liver support,

staying away from gluten and lactose, and staying out of my house.  We have

someone coming to look at it tomorrow to see if it can be remediated.  This is

not a fun condition.  May God give you strength and grace to deal with this

horrific problem. 

[Guest guest]

I feel for you . I was damaged by mold in the building I worked in.

That's why I am ES & MCS today. My employer remediated the mold with the

employees in the building so I was exposed to the mold proliferating, toxic

clean up of the mold such as bleach, & then the construction chemicals to

rebuild the whole roof area.

 

Be very careful. Mold is very hard to deal with. If you disturb it, it

proliferates. Wants to live. It is insidious. I learned the hard way. So sorry.

Loni

From: heather bain <hcbain2@...>

Subject: Re: mold

Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:32 PM

 

I have found out that my family and I are living in toxic mold.  I started

experiencing energy sensitivity after we moved in.  Heads up to everyone on

mold.  I am doing better now thanks to tons of supplements, liver support,

staying away from gluten and lactose, and staying out of my house.  We have

someone coming to look at it tomorrow to see if it can be remediated.  This is

not a fun condition.  May God give you strength and grace to deal with this

horrific problem. 

[Guest guest]

scanned herself for freqs with what? an F-scan? has Dr. Lloyd come up with something better than the F-scan which is, last i read (more recently than 2008) a BS machine?

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of DominSent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:56 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] mold

Here is an interesting post from another group regarding MS

From: Loyd <drloyd@...>

Date: May 7, 2010 2:13:46 PM PDT

drloyd

Subject: [drloyd] A Case of MS

Reply-drloyd

MS patient "DS" came to see me in late 2008. She was diagnosed with rapidly developing MS with neurological symptoms worsening quickly.Both mold toxin and Lyme scores were high. There was a wheat sensitivity.She learned how remove mold from her home and car and mold toxins from herself. She went on a program for heavy metals. She scanned herself for frequencies and applied them. She decided to stop attending her church which meets in a moldy building.She remains symptom free. I can test a saliva sample for mold and a more complete test based on a saliva sample can be arranged.http://www.royalrife.comjane archutowska wrote:>>> Hello to all,> > A dear friend has recently been diagnosed with primary progressive > Multiple Sclerosis, there has been no treatment offered apart from > high dose steroids. Any ideas I can pass on to her please?> > Thank you kindly,> > Jane>>>>>

[Guest guest]

We have used our old Alpine air purifiers for this with good results. They

generate ozone at low levels to establish about 30ppb (a healthy outdoor level)

continuously. For mold eradication in a hurry you can turn them up full and

leave the place (or car) over a few hours or more.

God bless you!

Arthur

On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:50 AM, leoelfie@... wrote:

> does anyone have personal experience with eradicating mold once it's been

there a while? Thanks.

> Leo

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[Guest guest]

I have used an air filter successfully as well - and the Portazone ozonator

should work also.

I used the latter recently to take pet odour out of floor boards - so much safer

than the substance I used to use.

Tammy

Re: Mold

We have used our old Alpine air purifiers for this with good results. They

generate ozone at low levels to establish about 30ppb (a healthy outdoor level)

continuously. For mold eradication in a hurry you can turn them up full and

leave the place (or car) over a few hours or more.

God bless you!

Arthur

On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:50 AM, leoelfie@... wrote:

> does anyone have personal experience with eradicating mold once it's been

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[Guest guest]

Thieves essential oil is effective with mold issues.

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[Guest guest]

Clorox of course works great however until it dies off you will have the

chemicals in your breathing space from it.

Dr

From: debnjohn93@...

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:52:35 +0000

Subject: Re: Mold

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[Guest guest]

And Dr Hulda , of course, strongly warned of the dangers of Clorox

bleach. She claimed it was contaminated with many substances, and that,

although chlorine itself was only somewhat dangerous, Clorox brand bleach

was a major cause of cancer, especially hidden in the water supply. Read

her book on Advanced Cancer for her full argument. Zoe

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[Guest guest]

I totally agree and said that it was and would suggest being away from it after

the application until the odor and stain of it dies down --- didn't know what

application Leo was asking for ---- 35% Hydrogen Peroxide is next best killer

that is pure; however, I have had some trouble with it returning when I use

that. Painting over it with KILZ also works pretty good however of course you

want to stay away from it also (just as you would fresh paint) for awhile.

However the peroxide ---- it is pure per Dr. standards.

Dr

From: mauizoe@...

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:39:09 -1000

Subject: Re: Re: Mold

And Dr Hulda , of course, strongly warned of the dangers of Clorox

bleach. She claimed it was contaminated with many substances, and that,

although chlorine itself was only somewhat dangerous, Clorox brand bleach

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her book on Advanced Cancer for her full argument. Zoe

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[Guest guest]

oh!!!! sorry 'bout that lol lol --- for mold in the body ---- I would want to

oxygenize the body for starters as with ozone, hydrogen peroxide, juicing fresh

juices by the quarts and drinking IMMEDIATELY not store in refrigerator and then

drink to also help oxygenize the body. This would give the mold very UNPLEASANT

surroundings to live in. Colonics with hydrogen peroxide and garlic ---- fresh

not cooked garlic in general for a short term term (Dr. doesn't like

garlic for long term use). I would add HCL to everything I drink. Dr.

found that adding Vitamin C to such moldy things as honey would keep mold from

entering the body to begin with. Test your foods for mold. One time over at Dr.

s, I loved HELLMANS mayonaise so much I wanted , the tester at that

time, to test it for me just to make sure Hellmans didn't happen to " luck up "

and be ok ---- the first thing he tested for was MOLD and found it in Hellmans

Mayonaise ---- so that stopped that right off the bat for me --- so in general

avoid processed foods for mold reasons as well as other reasons of course.

Dr

From: leoelfie@...

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:06:14 +0000

Subject: mold

Sorry, I meant systemic mold in one's body.

Leo

[Guest guest]

Hi Leo --  I have a question about  the  Grieger Counter.  Can anyone tell

me if they  have used one to find  radioactivity at the teeth sites?   ANd

what  kind  was useful.............Thanks,

From: leoelfie@... <leoelfie@...>

Subject: mold

Dr

Received: Monday, October 11, 2010, 5:06 PM

 

Sorry, I meant systemic mold in one's body.

Leo

[Guest guest]

ps. i was gone staying with my mom for 3 weeks and actually started to feel a

bit better toward the end. i could walk thru the store without leaning on a

cart...but when i got back home i went downhill fast. my legs and arms became

weak and i had muscle twiches all over. i felt like i was being shocked. so

my husband had done a mold kit at home and the thing was FULL of every color

mold you can imagine. so that's another stress, i can't stay in our home and

we have no place to go immediately...so i'm staying with my dad but there's no

room for me, my husband and 2 dogs...why is it when it rains it pours?

bev

has anyone with mold toxicity had their urine tested and it be highly alkaline?