Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 Body image problems seem to be growing in men and boys. Their issues are a little different from body issues for women. Sometimes normal, healthy men think they're puny and underdeveloped because they're seeing pictures of very developed men in magazines like Men's Health. Although anorexia and bulimia are more common in women than men, men do get these diseases. Sometimes it starts with an obsession over getting an abdominal " six pack. " Other times it can be triggered with deeper problems, including family issues and mental illness. In a message dated 9/2/02 8:01:56 PM Central Daylight Time, jcraigsmith@... writes: > I never knew men ever got that body image thing. Men I've known always have > thought that they were wonderful... > jcs > Judy > Chattanooga > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 I'm all over the dieting too soon choice. Men don't get those body-image issues until later, it seems. Obese Women > We were out to dinner last night, and my husband commented on how many > more fat or obese women were in the restaurant and in the mall as > opposed to the men. He asked why did we think that was. It was an > interesting question, and I can't stop thinking about it. I said 1) > that I wasn't sure that was true, and 2) if it was, I thought it was > because women are taught to hate their bodies and start dieting at an > early age, and dieting leads to eating disorders, regain, yo-yoing and > obesity. Someone else at the table said that boys are more active and > play sports while girls are more passive. I was wondering what you all > think? > > Helene > RNY 12/22/99 > 350/170 > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 I'm all over the dieting too soon choice. Men don't get those body-image issues until later, it seems. Obese Women > We were out to dinner last night, and my husband commented on how many > more fat or obese women were in the restaurant and in the mall as > opposed to the men. He asked why did we think that was. It was an > interesting question, and I can't stop thinking about it. I said 1) > that I wasn't sure that was true, and 2) if it was, I thought it was > because women are taught to hate their bodies and start dieting at an > early age, and dieting leads to eating disorders, regain, yo-yoing and > obesity. Someone else at the table said that boys are more active and > play sports while girls are more passive. I was wondering what you all > think? > > Helene > RNY 12/22/99 > 350/170 > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 I'm all over the dieting too soon choice. Men don't get those body-image issues until later, it seems. Obese Women > We were out to dinner last night, and my husband commented on how many > more fat or obese women were in the restaurant and in the mall as > opposed to the men. He asked why did we think that was. It was an > interesting question, and I can't stop thinking about it. I said 1) > that I wasn't sure that was true, and 2) if it was, I thought it was > because women are taught to hate their bodies and start dieting at an > early age, and dieting leads to eating disorders, regain, yo-yoing and > obesity. Someone else at the table said that boys are more active and > play sports while girls are more passive. I was wondering what you all > think? > > Helene > RNY 12/22/99 > 350/170 > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 I never knew men ever got that body image thing. Men I've known always have thought that they were wonderful... jcs Judy Chattanooga Re: Obese Women I'm all over the dieting too soon choice. Men don't get those body-image issues until later, it seems. Obese Women > We were out to dinner last night, and my husband commented on how many > more fat or obese women were in the restaurant and in the mall as > opposed to the men. He asked why did we think that was. It was an > interesting question, and I can't stop thinking about it. I said 1) > that I wasn't sure that was true, and 2) if it was, I thought it was > because women are taught to hate their bodies and start dieting at an > early age, and dieting leads to eating disorders, regain, yo-yoing and > obesity. Someone else at the table said that boys are more active and > play sports while girls are more passive. I was wondering what you all > think? > > Helene > RNY 12/22/99 > 350/170 > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 I have to agree with the idea of the 'hate-your-body' concept. Little girls are told " don't eat that, or you'll get fat... " or " What do you want with that, it's just make your thighs fat " , etc. Just sit and listen at a buffet restaurant sometime, if you don't believe me. Boys are growing machines... they have to be bulked up to play football or to kick butt in school in wrestling or whatever sports.... *sigh*...... Plus, how old are the girls when they see their first beauty contest on television? Or the news or entertainer commentator make the statement about the " beautiful... " who ever it may be. This sets the standards and they are unrealistic and set them up for that yo-yo dieting you were speaking about. Then lets complicate that with childbirth and the monthly monster! *sigh*.... we were set up to fail.... IMO..... Sorry... it hit home...... LOL Betty Dr. Houston St. 's Medical Hospital Toledo Ohio 8/01 -159# Obese Women We were out to dinner last night, and my husband commented on how many more fat or obese women were in the restaurant and in the mall as opposed to the men. He asked why did we think that was. It was an interesting question, and I can't stop thinking about it. I said 1) that I wasn't sure that was true, and 2) if it was, I thought it was because women are taught to hate their bodies and start dieting at an early age, and dieting leads to eating disorders, regain, yo-yoing and obesity. Someone else at the table said that boys are more active and play sports while girls are more passive. I was wondering what you all think? Helene RNY 12/22/99 350/170 Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 I dunno...I was physically fat all my life, i.e., off the charts from about age 6. Mom was a nurse and it was more medical, less appearance. They tried everything, leading to the yo-yo thing. Only WLS did the trick (so far). But I'm dubious of the notion that boys don't have those body issues. Thin boys don't. Fat boys do -- Mine were the first pair of breasts the kids in my junior high gym class ever saw. A real character-builder. /john Obese Women > > > > We were out to dinner last night, and my husband commented on how many > > more fat or obese women were in the restaurant and in the mall as > > opposed to the men. He asked why did we think that was. It was an > > interesting question, and I can't stop thinking about it. I said 1) > > that I wasn't sure that was true, and 2) if it was, I thought it was > > because women are taught to hate their bodies and start dieting at an > > early age, and dieting leads to eating disorders, regain, yo-yoing and > > obesity. Someone else at the table said that boys are more active and > > play sports while girls are more passive. I was wondering what you all > > think? > > > > Helene > > RNY 12/22/99 > > 350/170 > > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 I apologize ahead of time if I offend anyone by my emotional outburst. But the string on male versus female obesity irritates me. The answer to the comment about there being so many more obese women than men should be: " I don't know if there are more women than men who are obese. Aesthetic standards seem to be stricter for women than men making us notice smaller variations in women than we accept in men. However, the question of body image is social subterfuge of the real issues here. " There may or may not be more obese women than men. There may or may not differences in male versus female body image issues and responses. There may or may not be aspects of sex-linked physiology - - surely not all women who have had children are obese and male phsiology does change over time. People are obese from a variety of factors unique to them but which have, in differing proportions, the common elements of physiology or metabolic functioning, responses to psycho-social issues, and personal diet and life style choices. When we focus on body image issues and other shallow concerns, we trivialize the courage, the will, and love that typifies that dramatic self-wrought change that WLS patients have snatched from the gnarled hands of despair. When we, of all people, talk about obesity this way, we buy into the social discrimantion and prejudice that was such a misery in our own life. When we talk about the relative number male versus female who are obese we become part of the social problem and not part of the vanguard working toward a solution. There I said wshat I felt. I may sorry later, but this is how i feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 I apologize ahead of time if I offend anyone by my emotional outburst. But the string on male versus female obesity irritates me. The answer to the comment about there being so many more obese women than men should be: " I don't know if there are more women than men who are obese. Aesthetic standards seem to be stricter for women than men making us notice smaller variations in women than we accept in men. However, the question of body image is social subterfuge of the real issues here. " There may or may not be more obese women than men. There may or may not differences in male versus female body image issues and responses. There may or may not be aspects of sex-linked physiology - - surely not all women who have had children are obese and male phsiology does change over time. People are obese from a variety of factors unique to them but which have, in differing proportions, the common elements of physiology or metabolic functioning, responses to psycho-social issues, and personal diet and life style choices. When we focus on body image issues and other shallow concerns, we trivialize the courage, the will, and love that typifies that dramatic self-wrought change that WLS patients have snatched from the gnarled hands of despair. When we, of all people, talk about obesity this way, we buy into the social discrimantion and prejudice that was such a misery in our own life. When we talk about the relative number male versus female who are obese we become part of the social problem and not part of the vanguard working toward a solution. There I said wshat I felt. I may sorry later, but this is how i feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 > The answer to the comment about there being so many more obese women than men should be: " I don't know if there are more women than men who are obese. Aesthetic standards seem to be stricter for women than men making us notice smaller variations in women than we accept in men. However, the question of body image is social subterfuge of the real issues here. " > considering there are more women than men in the world then theoretically there should be more obese women than men. but you are so right that the standard by which we judge is skewed. sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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