Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 I know I am too young to post here, but I was thinking about a few things, and thought your group might appreciate these observations. I am Rankin from Mt. Pulaski, IL. I had RNY Lap on November 19, 2001. I started at 249 and am down to 144. I started in a size 24 and am wearing 7/8 now. I feel so blessed to have been part of this surgery. Please take these thoughts tongue in cheek. Here are my observations: After nine 1/2 months, 105 lbs, and 16 sizes (and going!), I have made some observations on how differently people treat you after you have gone from a Big Gal to a Teeny Gal. Each group of individuals responds a little bit differently, depending on your prior relationship to them. So, here goes: Large Women (like my former self): Other Big Girls who have struggled with food and weight issues just like you may soon see you as the enemy, or " one of those skinny Bs " we all love to hate. I remember saying of some size 6, " Look at her, prancing around showing off her figure. " If these women didn't know you before, you are just another showy cheerleader who must think she is all that, cause, well, LOOK AT HER!!! And if these women DID know you before, chances are that most of your conversations revolve around their current attempts at losing weight. Every week, size 20+ women approach me, say hi, make sure I'm not going to collapse from all the weight I've lost (because there would be justice in that), and then proceed to tell me how they are going to Curves, Weight Watchers, etc. My advice to them is: I don't see you any differently than I did before. You don't have to prove you are trying to lose weight just because I did. My choice to have WLS was mine, and I'm not going to push it on you. But if you want my help, I know a really great surgeon... Medium Sized Women: To mid range women, sizes 12-18, I was doing ok as long as I stayed bigger than them. Once I hit size 10, I became a threat to their self-esteem. They begin saying things like, " I'm a real tub compared to you--maybe I should have that surgery! " While they might appreciate them, don't try to offer your too big clothes to them. It will kill them. My advice to them is: You are great the way you are. Don't make me explain to you that needing to lose 30 lbs. doesn't qualify you for the surgery. Remember how I looked last year at this time? I was miserable and well beyond conventional dieting; otherwise, I wouldn't have made the choice I did. And if I had to pay 40 grand for this surgery, plus scars and life style change, I had better keep losing! Yes, I would love to work out with you, cause I could use a friend who is supportive. Tiny Women sizes 0-10: To this group of women, I am an enigma. Suddenly, I have joined their club. Like winning the lottery, I have been given opportunities that were never open to me before. These women are making eye contact with me, inviting me to go shopping, and generally treating me as an equal. I am stupefied. They have backed off from flirtatious conversations with my husband (at least while I'm around). To these women, I say that I will not join you in making the fat jokes about my friends. We may be in the same aerobics class together, but that doesn't mean that I don't still crave a Big Mac now and then. I wasn't born into your class--in fact, wasn't you in high school who always called me Fatty Patti? Back off--I don't need fake friends. To those thin gals who didn't know me before, be prepared. I have seen the world from all shapes and sizes, and I will protect the large and defenseless, because these are my roots. Finally, All Men: To any man, whether he knew me pre-op or not, I am a goddess. Men look at me like I have never been looked at before. Strangers make long eye contact with me during chitchat. Truckers honk at me (even in my minivan!). At parties, I am genuinely fearful that someone will ask me to dance or for my phone number. My protective 100-pound flesh wall is down, and I am vulnerable to all eyes. I feel naked and empowered all at the same time. I can have ANYTHING, because I am beautiful. My smile gets me out of speeding tickets, and into anyplace I desire. To these men I say: I am still a person with a brain. I used to spend so much time trying to prove to you that I am funny, smart, and knowledgeable beyond my fatness. Now I have to prove to you that I am more than just a great body! I must learn not to use my powers of persuasion for evil. And to my husband: No matter how other men may look at me, it is YOU AND ONLY YOU whom I dream about. Stop using you energy on being jealous, and put it to work making yourself worthy of me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Great observations.....but still you aren't a year out and rules is rules! This would be useful for the folks on the big group. I suggest you post it there. Sue in Las Vegas WLS Observations... I know I am too young to post here, but I was thinking about a few things, and thought your group might appreciate these observations. I am Rankin from Mt. Pulaski, IL. I had RNY Lap on November 19, 2001. I started at 249 and am down to 144. I started in a size 24 and am wearing 7/8 now. I feel so blessed to have been part of this surgery. Please take these thoughts tongue in cheek. Here are my observations: After nine 1/2 months, 105 lbs, and 16 sizes (and going!), I have made some observations on how differently people treat you after you have gone from a Big Gal to a Teeny Gal. Each group of individuals responds a little bit differently, depending on your prior relationship to them. So, here goes: Large Women (like my former self): Other Big Girls who have struggled with food and weight issues just like you may soon see you as the enemy, or " one of those skinny Bs " we all love to hate. I remember saying of some size 6, " Look at her, prancing around showing off her figure. " If these women didn't know you before, you are just another showy cheerleader who must think she is all that, cause, well, LOOK AT HER!!! And if these women DID know you before, chances are that most of your conversations revolve around their current attempts at losing weight. Every week, size 20+ women approach me, say hi, make sure I'm not going to collapse from all the weight I've lost (because there would be justice in that), and then proceed to tell me how they are going to Curves, Weight Watchers, etc. My advice to them is: I don't see you any differently than I did before. You don't have to prove you are trying to lose weight just because I did. My choice to have WLS was mine, and I'm not going to push it on you. But if you want my help, I know a really great surgeon... Medium Sized Women: To mid range women, sizes 12-18, I was doing ok as long as I stayed bigger than them. Once I hit size 10, I became a threat to their self-esteem. They begin saying things like, " I'm a real tub compared to you--maybe I should have that surgery! " While they might appreciate them, don't try to offer your too big clothes to them. It will kill them. My advice to them is: You are great the way you are. Don't make me explain to you that needing to lose 30 lbs. doesn't qualify you for the surgery. Remember how I looked last year at this time? I was miserable and well beyond conventional dieting; otherwise, I wouldn't have made the choice I did. And if I had to pay 40 grand for this surgery, plus scars and life style change, I had better keep losing! Yes, I would love to work out with you, cause I could use a friend who is supportive. Tiny Women sizes 0-10: To this group of women, I am an enigma. Suddenly, I have joined their club. Like winning the lottery, I have been given opportunities that were never open to me before. These women are making eye contact with me, inviting me to go shopping, and generally treating me as an equal. I am stupefied. They have backed off from flirtatious conversations with my husband (at least while I'm around). To these women, I say that I will not join you in making the fat jokes about my friends. We may be in the same aerobics class together, but that doesn't mean that I don't still crave a Big Mac now and then. I wasn't born into your class--in fact, wasn't you in high school who always called me Fatty Patti? Back off--I don't need fake friends. To those thin gals who didn't know me before, be prepared. I have seen the world from all shapes and sizes, and I will protect the large and defenseless, because these are my roots. Finally, All Men: To any man, whether he knew me pre-op or not, I am a goddess. Men look at me like I have never been looked at before. Strangers make long eye contact with me during chitchat. Truckers honk at me (even in my minivan!). At parties, I am genuinely fearful that someone will ask me to dance or for my phone number. My protective 100-pound flesh wall is down, and I am vulnerable to all eyes. I feel naked and empowered all at the same time. I can have ANYTHING, because I am beautiful. My smile gets me out of speeding tickets, and into anyplace I desire. To these men I say: I am still a person with a brain. I used to spend so much time trying to prove to you that I am funny, smart, and knowledgeable beyond my fatness. Now I have to prove to you that I am more than just a great body! I must learn not to use my powers of persuasion for evil. And to my husband: No matter how other men may look at me, it is YOU AND ONLY YOU whom I dream about. Stop using you energy on being jealous, and put it to work making yourself worthy of me! Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 This kind of post once again makes me count my blessings that I do not live in that kind of world, or if I do, I am too dense to realize it! People treat me as they always have - large women, mid-sized women, small women, and men. I cannot imagine the frustration and pain some of you have gone through being treated so differently when you were heavy, and now, finding yourself treated differently based on your size. Maybe it's my friends and those I surround myself with, or maybe it's just my own attitude - but life pretty much goes on as it always has for me (except that it's easier to move around and buy clothes!) Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 I have to agree with you here on everything. Except I take offense to the born Barbies coming around me now... especially if they were one of those who was afraid I make them fat if they touched me before. You should see them scramble to make amends. I do still have a problem with them. Otherwise.... I am doing quite well... The difference is quite miraculous.... especially with the men.... before they left the door slam in my face or left me check my own oil, etc. Just this afternoon I was checking the transmission fluid in my car when the attendant came out to see if he could help in any way.... *sigh*..... This hasn't happened in 16 years or so..... (when I got heavy). Betty WLS Observations... I know I am too young to post here, but I was thinking about a few things, and thought your group might appreciate these observations. I am Rankin from Mt. Pulaski, IL. I had RNY Lap on November 19, 2001. I started at 249 and am down to 144. I started in a size 24 and am wearing 7/8 now. I feel so blessed to have been part of this surgery. Please take these thoughts tongue in cheek. Here are my observations: After nine 1/2 months, 105 lbs, and 16 sizes (and going!), I have made some observations on how differently people treat you after you have gone from a Big Gal to a Teeny Gal. Each group of individuals responds a little bit differently, depending on your prior relationship to them. So, here goes: Large Women (like my former self): Other Big Girls who have struggled with food and weight issues just like you may soon see you as the enemy, or " one of those skinny Bs " we all love to hate. I remember saying of some size 6, " Look at her, prancing around showing off her figure. " If these women didn't know you before, you are just another showy cheerleader who must think she is all that, cause, well, LOOK AT HER!!! And if these women DID know you before, chances are that most of your conversations revolve around their current attempts at losing weight. Every week, size 20+ women approach me, say hi, make sure I'm not going to collapse from all the weight I've lost (because there would be justice in that), and then proceed to tell me how they are going to Curves, Weight Watchers, etc. My advice to them is: I don't see you any differently than I did before. You don't have to prove you are trying to lose weight just because I did. My choice to have WLS was mine, and I'm not going to push it on you. But if you want my help, I know a really great surgeon... Medium Sized Women: To mid range women, sizes 12-18, I was doing ok as long as I stayed bigger than them. Once I hit size 10, I became a threat to their self-esteem. They begin saying things like, " I'm a real tub compared to you--maybe I should have that surgery! " While they might appreciate them, don't try to offer your too big clothes to them. It will kill them. My advice to them is: You are great the way you are. Don't make me explain to you that needing to lose 30 lbs. doesn't qualify you for the surgery. Remember how I looked last year at this time? I was miserable and well beyond conventional dieting; otherwise, I wouldn't have made the choice I did. And if I had to pay 40 grand for this surgery, plus scars and life style change, I had better keep losing! Yes, I would love to work out with you, cause I could use a friend who is supportive. Tiny Women sizes 0-10: To this group of women, I am an enigma. Suddenly, I have joined their club. Like winning the lottery, I have been given opportunities that were never open to me before. These women are making eye contact with me, inviting me to go shopping, and generally treating me as an equal. I am stupefied. They have backed off from flirtatious conversations with my husband (at least while I'm around). To these women, I say that I will not join you in making the fat jokes about my friends. We may be in the same aerobics class together, but that doesn't mean that I don't still crave a Big Mac now and then. I wasn't born into your class--in fact, wasn't you in high school who always called me Fatty Patti? Back off--I don't need fake friends. To those thin gals who didn't know me before, be prepared. I have seen the world from all shapes and sizes, and I will protect the large and defenseless, because these are my roots. Finally, All Men: To any man, whether he knew me pre-op or not, I am a goddess. Men look at me like I have never been looked at before. Strangers make long eye contact with me during chitchat. Truckers honk at me (even in my minivan!). At parties, I am genuinely fearful that someone will ask me to dance or for my phone number. My protective 100-pound flesh wall is down, and I am vulnerable to all eyes. I feel naked and empowered all at the same time. I can have ANYTHING, because I am beautiful. My smile gets me out of speeding tickets, and into anyplace I desire. To these men I say: I am still a person with a brain. I used to spend so much time trying to prove to you that I am funny, smart, and knowledgeable beyond my fatness. Now I have to prove to you that I am more than just a great body! I must learn not to use my powers of persuasion for evil. And to my husband: No matter how other men may look at me, it is YOU AND ONLY YOU whom I dream about. Stop using you energy on being jealous, and put it to work making yourself worthy of me! Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 You are so lucky! Betty Re: WLS Observations... This kind of post once again makes me count my blessings that I do not live in that kind of world, or if I do, I am too dense to realize it! People treat me as they always have - large women, mid-sized women, small women, and men. I cannot imagine the frustration and pain some of you have gone through being treated so differently when you were heavy, and now, finding yourself treated differ ently based on your size. Maybe it's my friends and those I surround myself with, or maybe it's just my own attitude - but life pretty much goes on as it always has for me (except that it's easier to move around and buy clothes!) Kate Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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