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I have 4 plates in my upper now too and I don't have any discomfort

or can feel them (I would never have known that I have any in if I

didn't see them on my x-rays) - I would definately call your doctor

and make sure they check to see that nothing has shifted, broken,

loosened up or you don't have an infection. My OS said that if you

have problems with the plates it is normally within the first 3

months of having them in.

> I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

either

> side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not

right

> under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be

from

> the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they want

> anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something i

want

> it to be if it is only really necessary

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I have 4 plates in my upper now too and I don't have any discomfort

or can feel them (I would never have known that I have any in if I

didn't see them on my x-rays) - I would definately call your doctor

and make sure they check to see that nothing has shifted, broken,

loosened up or you don't have an infection. My OS said that if you

have problems with the plates it is normally within the first 3

months of having them in.

> I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

either

> side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not

right

> under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be

from

> the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they want

> anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something i

want

> it to be if it is only really necessary

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Oh really? because I've had that feeling for a while now actually

> > I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

> either

> > side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not

> right

> > under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be

> from

> > the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> > I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they want

> > anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something i

> want

> > it to be if it is only really necessary

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Oh really? because I've had that feeling for a while now actually

> > I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

> either

> > side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not

> right

> > under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be

> from

> > the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> > I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they want

> > anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something i

> want

> > it to be if it is only really necessary

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Honey, if it's troubling you, it's really necessary to ask them. You,

or your insurance company, paid them big bucks to take care of you

and help solve your problem, and I would hope that they are caring

professionals who take pride in the quality of their work and care.

Whether they seem to want to have anything to do with you is

irrelevant. They're your doctors, and it is their ethical

responsibility at least to hear your problems (within reason, of

course) and try to help you find a solution.

Call, or write, and ask! They don't know you have troubles if you

don't tell them.

Best,

cammie

> I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

either

> side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not right

> under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be from

> the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they want

> anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something i

want

> it to be if it is only really necessary

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Honey, if it's troubling you, it's really necessary to ask them. You,

or your insurance company, paid them big bucks to take care of you

and help solve your problem, and I would hope that they are caring

professionals who take pride in the quality of their work and care.

Whether they seem to want to have anything to do with you is

irrelevant. They're your doctors, and it is their ethical

responsibility at least to hear your problems (within reason, of

course) and try to help you find a solution.

Call, or write, and ask! They don't know you have troubles if you

don't tell them.

Best,

cammie

> I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

either

> side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not right

> under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be from

> the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they want

> anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something i

want

> it to be if it is only really necessary

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Honey, if it's troubling you, it's really necessary to ask them. You,

or your insurance company, paid them big bucks to take care of you

and help solve your problem, and I would hope that they are caring

professionals who take pride in the quality of their work and care.

Whether they seem to want to have anything to do with you is

irrelevant. They're your doctors, and it is their ethical

responsibility at least to hear your problems (within reason, of

course) and try to help you find a solution.

Call, or write, and ask! They don't know you have troubles if you

don't tell them.

Best,

cammie

> I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

either

> side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not right

> under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be from

> the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they want

> anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something i

want

> it to be if it is only really necessary

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I know I should call them. It's true though, that they seem like they

are annoyed with me. My orthodontist seems like he wants to get rid

of me now. I guess I should call them anyways, I just feel bad

because I don't like bothering that much. Would it be a big deal if I

didn't say anything about it and just deal with the discomfort??

> > I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

> either

> > side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not

right

> > under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be

from

> > the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> > I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they want

> > anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something i

> want

> > it to be if it is only really necessary

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Just to be on the safe side - I would ask them to check it out and

do an x-ray just to make sure everything is ok.

> > > I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

> > either

> > > side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not

> > right

> > > under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could be

> > from

> > > the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> > > I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they

want

> > > anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something

i

> > want

> > > it to be if it is only really necessary

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I think you guys are right. It feels like it's getting worse and I

don't think I can deal with it anymore. I will call the surgeon

tomorrow if I get a chance. And I do remember him saying at my last

appointment that, he's here if I need him like if something doesn't

feel right of if I can feel the plates or anything.

So I'll talk to my mom when she gets home and see if she wants to

call him tomorrow.

> > > > I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

> > > either

> > > > side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not

> > > right

> > > > under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could

be

> > > from

> > > > the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> > > > I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they

> want

> > > > anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something

> i

> > > want

> > > > it to be if it is only really necessary

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Honeychild,

If you don't call him, and something really has gone terribly wrong, you're

taking a chance of messing up all that you've already suffered through and for.

What I'm saying is that it's better to be safe than sorry.

Think of a car tire...if it goes flat, it may cost you $5-$10 or so to have

the nail pulled out and the hole fixed. However, if you continue to drive on

it, not only will the tire be completely ruined, but the rim, the axle and who

knows what else will be damaged also...which may cost you $100's or $1,000's or

more.

Don't jeopardize all you and your doctors have worked hard for just because

you don't want to " bother " them. If it's a " bother " to them, then they're in

the wrong business. Most doctors get into this line of work to HELP people and

right now, you need that help. It may very well turn out to be nothing at all,

but on the flip side, it may turn out to be something major that can be easily

be corrected if caught in time, but disastrous if let go too long.

Please, whatever you do, don't let this go unchecked. The longer you wait,

the worse things may get. Let us know how it turns out. We really do care and

want the best for you.

Smooches

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I think you guys are right. It feels like it's getting worse and I

don't think I can deal with it anymore. I will call the surgeon

tomorrow if I get a chance. And I do remember him saying at my last

appointment that, he's here if I need him like if something doesn't

feel right of if I can feel the plates or anything.

So I'll talk to my mom when she gets home and see if she wants to

call him tomorrow.

> > > > I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2 are on

> > > either

> > > > side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose, but not

> > > right

> > > > under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that could

be

> > > from

> > > > the plates or is it just because they made insicions there?

> > > > I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like they

> want

> > > > anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them something

> i

> > > want

> > > > it to be if it is only really necessary

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Ok I called my doctor's office this afternoon (@ 3:00) and the

receptionist said he had a few patients and he would call me back in

a little while. It's 6:20 now and he never called!!

> > > > > I ahve a question. I have four plates in my jaw now, 2

are on

> > > > either

> > > > > side of my nose. And I have discomfort under my nose,

but not

> > > > right

> > > > > under it's more to each side, I was wondering if that

could

> be

> > > > from

> > > > > the plates or is it just because they made insicions

there?

> > > > > I know I should ask my doctors but they dont seem like

they

> > want

> > > > > anything to do with me, so if i do have to ask them

something

> > i

> > > > want

> > > > > it to be if it is only really necessary

>

>

>

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Call first thing in the morning and keep calling if you don't get a

call back - be persistent (or in my case annoying!!) - if you have a

problem you want to get it taken care of as soon as possible - if

you don't then you want the reassurance that everything is ok and

you won't have to worry about it anymore - if you are in discomfort

then you need to know if there is something that can be done so you

don't feel anything anymore - plus it is their job - you are a

patient who just had major surgery and they should be returning

their phone calls in a timely manner. I thought that I might have

had an infection after surgery and I kept calling and kept calling

until I got an appt. and saw someone on a Saturday - turns out that

I was ok and the persistence paid off because I wasn't worrying all

weekend long and my mind was at ease!

> Ok I called my doctor's office this afternoon (@ 3:00) and the

> receptionist said he had a few patients and he would call me back

in

> a little while. It's 6:20 now and he never called!!

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Yeah I guess you're right. But, I won't be able to call until like

2:30 because I go to school. But I also have driving school for 2

hours after school, so I don't know if I will get a chance to call

tomorrow or not

> > Ok I called my doctor's office this afternoon (@ 3:00) and the

> > receptionist said he had a few patients and he would call me

back

> in

> > a little while. It's 6:20 now and he never called!!

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Can your parents call for you? Do they have an answering machine?

If so, leave a message tonight something like that you called this

afternoon and never rec'd a call back and you are concerned that

something is wrong and you are having discomfort. Could you call on

your lunch break? I would try to make some time for a phone call

for this. Make sure you tell the receptionist what time you will be

home to take the call or see if your parents could take the call for

you and schedule an appt.

> > > Ok I called my doctor's office this afternoon (@ 3:00) and the

> > > receptionist said he had a few patients and he would call me

> back

> > in

> > > a little while. It's 6:20 now and he never called!!

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Call again, and tell them you're worried. Tell the receptionist what

you're worried about. If you need an explanation for why you're

calling a second time (which you should not) tell 'em you called

yesterday, but were called away from the phone by whatever. Or that

your line was busy because of whatever. Just keep after them until at

least you've told someone your trouble.

Three hours isn't a lot of time to give a busy doc for a callback, at

least in my experience. I also am mistrustful about offices and

getting messages through, although both my ortho and surgeon were

splendid on this front.

C.

> Ok I called my doctor's office this afternoon (@ 3:00) and the

> receptionist said he had a few patients and he would call me back

in

> a little while. It's 6:20 now and he never called!!

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Call again, and tell them you're worried. Tell the receptionist what

you're worried about. If you need an explanation for why you're

calling a second time (which you should not) tell 'em you called

yesterday, but were called away from the phone by whatever. Or that

your line was busy because of whatever. Just keep after them until at

least you've told someone your trouble.

Three hours isn't a lot of time to give a busy doc for a callback, at

least in my experience. I also am mistrustful about offices and

getting messages through, although both my ortho and surgeon were

splendid on this front.

C.

> Ok I called my doctor's office this afternoon (@ 3:00) and the

> receptionist said he had a few patients and he would call me back

in

> a little while. It's 6:20 now and he never called!!

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Call again, and tell them you're worried. Tell the receptionist what

you're worried about. If you need an explanation for why you're

calling a second time (which you should not) tell 'em you called

yesterday, but were called away from the phone by whatever. Or that

your line was busy because of whatever. Just keep after them until at

least you've told someone your trouble.

Three hours isn't a lot of time to give a busy doc for a callback, at

least in my experience. I also am mistrustful about offices and

getting messages through, although both my ortho and surgeon were

splendid on this front.

C.

> Ok I called my doctor's office this afternoon (@ 3:00) and the

> receptionist said he had a few patients and he would call me back

in

> a little while. It's 6:20 now and he never called!!

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Ah, this is more important than school, or driving school, for that

matter. Nothing wrong with calling early, or even the emergency

number. But don't tell 'em it's an emergency if you're willing to go

through a day of the discomfort without seeking (again) help for it.

You need to call way before 2:30. If you haven't a cell phone, or

have to be out of touch, you need to figure out a way to make

yourself available. By having them call your parents, or however.

Tell them what the troubles are -- you don't need to start with the

doc. But you have to make it a priority, too, if you expect them to

do so.

C.

> Yeah I guess you're right. But, I won't be able to call until like

> 2:30 because I go to school. But I also have driving school for 2

> hours after school, so I don't know if I will get a chance to call

> tomorrow or not

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Well I called a little while ago and they said he was with a patient

but he would call me back. And this time he called me right back, I

just got off the phone with him. He said it's probably from the

plates. But he said to wait another month or two and see if it still

feels the same or you would have to go back to the operating room.

So I was like, well is it going to go away because it's really

uncomfortable. He's like, yeah it should or have your mom call and

schedule an appointment to get the plates removed.

I hope this goes away because it is soooo uncomfortable. I was in

study hall today in school and I wanted to just cry because it was

soo annoying, it's not too painful but it's just such a bad feeling.

:(

> > Yeah I guess you're right. But, I won't be able to call until

like

> > 2:30 because I go to school. But I also have driving school for

2

> > hours after school, so I don't know if I will get a chance to

call

> > tomorrow or not

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I am glad that at least you found out that it's not something that's

gonna get worse by waiting. If it keeps on, I'd wait one month -- or

maybe not even that long -- rather than two to go on and get the

danged plates out. Or at least to schedule the appointment for doing

so.

Good wishes to you.

Cammie

> Well I called a little while ago and they said he was with a

patient

> but he would call me back. And this time he called me right back, I

> just got off the phone with him. He said it's probably from the

> plates. But he said to wait another month or two and see if it

still

> feels the same or you would have to go back to the operating room.

> So I was like, well is it going to go away because it's really

> uncomfortable. He's like, yeah it should or have your mom call and

> schedule an appointment to get the plates removed.

> I hope this goes away because it is soooo uncomfortable. I was in

> study hall today in school and I wanted to just cry because it was

> soo annoying, it's not too painful but it's just such a bad feeling.

> :(

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Wow, I don't really like his answer - I am sorry - my OS and his

staff has been so wonderful and supportive during my recovery - I

just don't know what to say or have rec'd answers like that back.

He should be concerned and offer to get you in there as soon as

possible if you are in any discomfort or pain. I would think that

he would want to take x-rays and examine you to make sure nothing

has shifted or that you don't have an infection - my surgeon takes

an x-ray every other week and checks my incision sites every visit.

You shouldn't have to go to the operating room to get the plates

removed - they should be able to do it under local, now if something

has to be repaired then maybe. I just can't really believe his

reply - you know? How far along are you?

> > Ah, this is more important than school, or driving school, for

> that

> > matter. Nothing wrong with calling early, or even the emergency

> > number. But don't tell 'em it's an emergency if you're willing

to

> go

> > through a day of the discomfort without seeking (again) help for

> it.

> >

> > You need to call way before 2:30. If you haven't a cell phone,

or

> > have to be out of touch, you need to figure out a way to make

> > yourself available. By having them call your parents, or

however.

> > Tell them what the troubles are -- you don't need to start with

> the

> > doc. But you have to make it a priority, too, if you expect them

> to

> > do so.

> >

> > C.

> >

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Wow, I don't really like his answer - I am sorry - my OS and his

staff has been so wonderful and supportive during my recovery - I

just don't know what to say or have rec'd answers like that back.

He should be concerned and offer to get you in there as soon as

possible if you are in any discomfort or pain. I would think that

he would want to take x-rays and examine you to make sure nothing

has shifted or that you don't have an infection - my surgeon takes

an x-ray every other week and checks my incision sites every visit.

You shouldn't have to go to the operating room to get the plates

removed - they should be able to do it under local, now if something

has to be repaired then maybe. I just can't really believe his

reply - you know? How far along are you?

> > Ah, this is more important than school, or driving school, for

> that

> > matter. Nothing wrong with calling early, or even the emergency

> > number. But don't tell 'em it's an emergency if you're willing

to

> go

> > through a day of the discomfort without seeking (again) help for

> it.

> >

> > You need to call way before 2:30. If you haven't a cell phone,

or

> > have to be out of touch, you need to figure out a way to make

> > yourself available. By having them call your parents, or

however.

> > Tell them what the troubles are -- you don't need to start with

> the

> > doc. But you have to make it a priority, too, if you expect them

> to

> > do so.

> >

> > C.

> >

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I was told by my OS that if you have problems with the plates or

screws that it is more likely early on during recovery rather than

later on in life. They said that they make an incision along your

gumline where they originally made an incision and take them out -

they said it is fairly easy. They also do it in the doctor's office

under local rather than the operating room under general.

> > > Well I called a little while ago and they said he was with a

> > patient

> > > but he would call me back. And this time he called me right

> back, I

> > > just got off the phone with him. He said it's probably from

the

> > > plates. But he said to wait another month or two and see if it

> > still

> > > feels the same or you would have to go back to the operating

> room.

> > > So I was like, well is it going to go away because it's really

> > > uncomfortable. He's like, yeah it should or have your mom call

> and

> > > schedule an appointment to get the plates removed.

> > > I hope this goes away because it is soooo uncomfortable. I was

> in

> > > study hall today in school and I wanted to just cry because it

> was

> > > soo annoying, it's not too painful but it's just such a bad

> feeling.

> > > :(

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I was told by my OS that if you have problems with the plates or

screws that it is more likely early on during recovery rather than

later on in life. They said that they make an incision along your

gumline where they originally made an incision and take them out -

they said it is fairly easy. They also do it in the doctor's office

under local rather than the operating room under general.

> > > Well I called a little while ago and they said he was with a

> > patient

> > > but he would call me back. And this time he called me right

> back, I

> > > just got off the phone with him. He said it's probably from

the

> > > plates. But he said to wait another month or two and see if it

> > still

> > > feels the same or you would have to go back to the operating

> room.

> > > So I was like, well is it going to go away because it's really

> > > uncomfortable. He's like, yeah it should or have your mom call

> and

> > > schedule an appointment to get the plates removed.

> > > I hope this goes away because it is soooo uncomfortable. I was

> in

> > > study hall today in school and I wanted to just cry because it

> was

> > > soo annoying, it's not too painful but it's just such a bad

> feeling.

> > > :(

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