Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Sunstar: You did not say in your post whether or not you are giving in to your cravings and eating sugar, but if you are, there may lie some of your problems. I am 2 years post op and until about a month ago I had stayed away from sugar like it was the plague. No more than 5 grams for me! I had been a " good " girl for two years. Then one day I woke up and it hit me like a brick that I wanted chocolate. Out of nowhere the cravings re-appeared and they meant business. So, I ate a piece of chocoate candy. And I had no problem. Then I ate another. By the end of the week I was eating 4-5 pieces a day (Halloween bite-size pieces). And I noticed that I was not feeling too good. But it was allergy season and I chalked it up to ragweed or any numerous allergies -- or the fact that I had just gotten home from a long trip and was tired. Never once thought it was the candy. So when the first bag ran out, I went out and bought several more (the Halloween candy was just starting to hit the shelves and I wanted to make sure I had the " good " stuff before it was sold out! You know...for the kids...) Before I even realized it, other cravings started up -- the cravings for carbs like potato chips, pretzels, etc. -- things that I had stayed away from for 2 years. Before I knew it I was hooked and the scale was starting upwards! That -- and that alone -- scared the begeebies out of me and I sent all of the candy with my husband to the office. I immediately began drinking the American Body Builders Lean Protein Fruit Punch drinks every afternoon and within 3 days the cravings were gone! So was the feeling of having lost control, along with the 3 pounds I had gained and the depression that had taken over. On the other hand, I have found that when I drink the protein drinks that I make in the blender with powder, that they help encourage cravings. I do not know what the difference is, but I am watching everything now and trying to get back on track. The ABB protein drinks can be bought at GNC and they come in a red bottle. I highly recommend them -- not only because they virtually took away all of the cravings -- but because they have given me energy. I still have a problem between 8-10 p.m. every evening and have to work very very hard not to give in to the temptation of eating carbs while watching TV. When I do give in I hate myself -- feeling as though I have betrayed myself and all of the good work I did the first part of the day. I you have been " off the wagon " for more than a few weeks, it may take longer for you to get the same effects. But, I do agree that all of us are in the same boat and we need to be there to help one another. I am now a strong advocate of the protein drinks and I do believe that they may help you, too. Take care and know that I do care. Give the drinks a chance for a week and then let me know how you are doing. I am going to put you on my prayer list and pray that you are given the strength to get back on track! Write when you get a chance... Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Sunstar, So many of us have been exactly where you are now. For that reason....another group was started. OSSG_Off_track . And to copy from the entry page of the group... ***An email list for those of us who have had life altering weight loss surgery, but have found that we have gotten off track. We want to get back on the band wagon and stick with it. This list is geared toward post ops who seem to have lost as much weight as they can but still have not achieved their goal and/or have had a regain after hitting a low weight. We will not tolerate flaming or spam on this list. We are here to share our experience, strength and hope in an effort to help ourselves and if by doing so we help others along the way, that is a bonus. This list is for anyone who has had any weight loss surgery Including, but not limited to, the RNY, ALB, VBG, BPD or BPD/DS, and any other surgical intervention that was intended to help combat morbid obesity. So come join us.....you'll find many people who are walking in your shoes! Sue in Las Vegas Need " Compassionate " advice Hi everyone. I introduced myself a couple of months ago. And my first post after that got very " quip- short " responses. I have my ups and downs like all of you I'm sure. I just can't seem to get this under control. If you don't really have a heart and cannot respond from experience, please don't! I am looking for a sincere response that I can do something with. With that said, I would like to know if just doing Protein shakes for a few days is ok. I had a Distal RNY with gallbladder removal in Feb. 2001. I lost 167 lbs. I had started at 406. I am walking without the cane I had before surgery, I look a lot better, and I can walk and sit most anywhere without trouble. BUT...the emotional eating and the lonliness have gotten to me. I've been in Minnesota for 3 years and I don't think I've ever been anywhere that I felt so alone. I basically lived in Los Angeles California for 28 years prior. I just can't make friends here. And the area I live in is the worst! If your not catholic or don't have a family and children you might as well not be here! So given that all of this is happening, and no, I cannot financially afford to move. I'm in therapy. And I don't think anything I've heard from therapy or others has worked. I don't know, maybe I'm just too different. I just can't feel happy about this surgery. I want so much to eat sugar, like pie and ice cream ! I know I knew this was the way it would be. I know that I still have 50 lbs or more to lose, I'm at 230 now and I'm 5'7. Its just I can't feel good and I've tried to keep eating meat and chicken and my blood levels are barely ok. I don't have my test results yet given to me, I'm going to get them in November. Until then, I was wondering if anyone would care to be my email buddy and help me get through this. I am really reaching out here, so if your not sincere, don't bother, please. I'm not always depressed, but am off and on. I did go off of the Celexa because it wasn't helping and they wanted to put me on something stronger. I'm very sensitive to drugs and can't take high dosages, even with surgery. I'm very spiritual, connected to God and Goddess. I'm doing all I can through meditation and faith in God/Goddess to keep going. I thought from reading the posts maybe my answer is protein drinks. But, I'm not sure. Has anyone experienced some of this? Also, the worst thing is, I am very attractive and Men now come on to me that didn't and its very scary. I think I'm having to deal with a lot at once, I don't think keeping people down with drugs so they don't " emote " so much that it bothers people, or that keeps them from feeling anything so everyone around them is happy. I don't think its right! I am real, I feel, and I have the right to express who I am. But it seems the medical profession wasn't just happy controlling my weight, but now they want my emotions too! Yes, I'm a bit angry, but I'll get over it. I just want to hope that there is someone else out there who is real! This is not an easy journey and it sucks doing it alone. Maybe I'm too real for you, but I'm still putting this out.. for one more time. I hope you will find it in your heart to hear where I'm coming from. Blessings to you all in your journey. Thanks, I know this is long. sunstar Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Sunstar, So many of us have been exactly where you are now. For that reason....another group was started. OSSG_Off_track . And to copy from the entry page of the group... ***An email list for those of us who have had life altering weight loss surgery, but have found that we have gotten off track. We want to get back on the band wagon and stick with it. This list is geared toward post ops who seem to have lost as much weight as they can but still have not achieved their goal and/or have had a regain after hitting a low weight. We will not tolerate flaming or spam on this list. We are here to share our experience, strength and hope in an effort to help ourselves and if by doing so we help others along the way, that is a bonus. This list is for anyone who has had any weight loss surgery Including, but not limited to, the RNY, ALB, VBG, BPD or BPD/DS, and any other surgical intervention that was intended to help combat morbid obesity. So come join us.....you'll find many people who are walking in your shoes! Sue in Las Vegas Need " Compassionate " advice Hi everyone. I introduced myself a couple of months ago. And my first post after that got very " quip- short " responses. I have my ups and downs like all of you I'm sure. I just can't seem to get this under control. If you don't really have a heart and cannot respond from experience, please don't! I am looking for a sincere response that I can do something with. With that said, I would like to know if just doing Protein shakes for a few days is ok. I had a Distal RNY with gallbladder removal in Feb. 2001. I lost 167 lbs. I had started at 406. I am walking without the cane I had before surgery, I look a lot better, and I can walk and sit most anywhere without trouble. BUT...the emotional eating and the lonliness have gotten to me. I've been in Minnesota for 3 years and I don't think I've ever been anywhere that I felt so alone. I basically lived in Los Angeles California for 28 years prior. I just can't make friends here. And the area I live in is the worst! If your not catholic or don't have a family and children you might as well not be here! So given that all of this is happening, and no, I cannot financially afford to move. I'm in therapy. And I don't think anything I've heard from therapy or others has worked. I don't know, maybe I'm just too different. I just can't feel happy about this surgery. I want so much to eat sugar, like pie and ice cream ! I know I knew this was the way it would be. I know that I still have 50 lbs or more to lose, I'm at 230 now and I'm 5'7. Its just I can't feel good and I've tried to keep eating meat and chicken and my blood levels are barely ok. I don't have my test results yet given to me, I'm going to get them in November. Until then, I was wondering if anyone would care to be my email buddy and help me get through this. I am really reaching out here, so if your not sincere, don't bother, please. I'm not always depressed, but am off and on. I did go off of the Celexa because it wasn't helping and they wanted to put me on something stronger. I'm very sensitive to drugs and can't take high dosages, even with surgery. I'm very spiritual, connected to God and Goddess. I'm doing all I can through meditation and faith in God/Goddess to keep going. I thought from reading the posts maybe my answer is protein drinks. But, I'm not sure. Has anyone experienced some of this? Also, the worst thing is, I am very attractive and Men now come on to me that didn't and its very scary. I think I'm having to deal with a lot at once, I don't think keeping people down with drugs so they don't " emote " so much that it bothers people, or that keeps them from feeling anything so everyone around them is happy. I don't think its right! I am real, I feel, and I have the right to express who I am. But it seems the medical profession wasn't just happy controlling my weight, but now they want my emotions too! Yes, I'm a bit angry, but I'll get over it. I just want to hope that there is someone else out there who is real! This is not an easy journey and it sucks doing it alone. Maybe I'm too real for you, but I'm still putting this out.. for one more time. I hope you will find it in your heart to hear where I'm coming from. Blessings to you all in your journey. Thanks, I know this is long. sunstar Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Sunstar, So many of us have been exactly where you are now. For that reason....another group was started. OSSG_Off_track . And to copy from the entry page of the group... ***An email list for those of us who have had life altering weight loss surgery, but have found that we have gotten off track. We want to get back on the band wagon and stick with it. This list is geared toward post ops who seem to have lost as much weight as they can but still have not achieved their goal and/or have had a regain after hitting a low weight. We will not tolerate flaming or spam on this list. We are here to share our experience, strength and hope in an effort to help ourselves and if by doing so we help others along the way, that is a bonus. This list is for anyone who has had any weight loss surgery Including, but not limited to, the RNY, ALB, VBG, BPD or BPD/DS, and any other surgical intervention that was intended to help combat morbid obesity. So come join us.....you'll find many people who are walking in your shoes! Sue in Las Vegas Need " Compassionate " advice Hi everyone. I introduced myself a couple of months ago. And my first post after that got very " quip- short " responses. I have my ups and downs like all of you I'm sure. I just can't seem to get this under control. If you don't really have a heart and cannot respond from experience, please don't! I am looking for a sincere response that I can do something with. With that said, I would like to know if just doing Protein shakes for a few days is ok. I had a Distal RNY with gallbladder removal in Feb. 2001. I lost 167 lbs. I had started at 406. I am walking without the cane I had before surgery, I look a lot better, and I can walk and sit most anywhere without trouble. BUT...the emotional eating and the lonliness have gotten to me. I've been in Minnesota for 3 years and I don't think I've ever been anywhere that I felt so alone. I basically lived in Los Angeles California for 28 years prior. I just can't make friends here. And the area I live in is the worst! If your not catholic or don't have a family and children you might as well not be here! So given that all of this is happening, and no, I cannot financially afford to move. I'm in therapy. And I don't think anything I've heard from therapy or others has worked. I don't know, maybe I'm just too different. I just can't feel happy about this surgery. I want so much to eat sugar, like pie and ice cream ! I know I knew this was the way it would be. I know that I still have 50 lbs or more to lose, I'm at 230 now and I'm 5'7. Its just I can't feel good and I've tried to keep eating meat and chicken and my blood levels are barely ok. I don't have my test results yet given to me, I'm going to get them in November. Until then, I was wondering if anyone would care to be my email buddy and help me get through this. I am really reaching out here, so if your not sincere, don't bother, please. I'm not always depressed, but am off and on. I did go off of the Celexa because it wasn't helping and they wanted to put me on something stronger. I'm very sensitive to drugs and can't take high dosages, even with surgery. I'm very spiritual, connected to God and Goddess. I'm doing all I can through meditation and faith in God/Goddess to keep going. I thought from reading the posts maybe my answer is protein drinks. But, I'm not sure. Has anyone experienced some of this? Also, the worst thing is, I am very attractive and Men now come on to me that didn't and its very scary. I think I'm having to deal with a lot at once, I don't think keeping people down with drugs so they don't " emote " so much that it bothers people, or that keeps them from feeling anything so everyone around them is happy. I don't think its right! I am real, I feel, and I have the right to express who I am. But it seems the medical profession wasn't just happy controlling my weight, but now they want my emotions too! Yes, I'm a bit angry, but I'll get over it. I just want to hope that there is someone else out there who is real! This is not an easy journey and it sucks doing it alone. Maybe I'm too real for you, but I'm still putting this out.. for one more time. I hope you will find it in your heart to hear where I'm coming from. Blessings to you all in your journey. Thanks, I know this is long. sunstar Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 In a message dated 10/9/02 2:56:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sunstar1111@... writes: > Maybe I'm too real for you, but > I'm still putting this out.. for one more time. I hope you will find > it in your heart to hear where I'm coming from. Blessings to you all > in your journey. Thanks, I know this is long. > sunstar > > > Sunstar, You reminded me just how hard this all is. I think, sometimes, we get caught up in the mundane (protein, binders, clothes, gas, etc.) and forgot (at least on the list) the intense emotional effects of this surgery, losing enormous amounts of weight very quickly, and reinventing yourself. But I very much doubt that all that is truly forgotten by each of us. I doubt there is anyone on here who hasn't been challenged emotionally to the limit during their WLS experience. You just can't stir a pot as much as we do through this process and not produce some spillover. I think the key for you is going to be to reach out for support. And I mean everywhere. Friends. Support groups (online and in person). Therapists. Your surgeon. Your PCP. You go to everyone and everybody for assistance. You just can't get through all this all alone. And, I do believe, for my of us who are obese, key to healing (getting over the anger and other troubling things) is reconnecting with people. I hope this helps a little. We are all here for you. se Baltimore, MD Open RNY 11/22/99, Dr. Sweet, Reading, PA http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=L951569336 " >http:\ //www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=L951569336 11/22/99 324, BMI 51 12/6/99 301, BMI 47 1/27/00 280, BMI 44 2/22/00 270, BMI 42 3/16/00 262, BMI 41 5/31/00 244, BMI 38 (no longer extremely obese... just plain obese) 7/22/00 224, BMI 35 9/23/00 220, BMI 34 (and still obese) 10/16/00 216, BMI 34 11/7/00 210, BMI 33 (65 pounds from goal!!!) 5/8/01 196, BMI 31 (new goal 157; I am 5'7 " that would give me a BMI of 24.6; 39 pounds to go) 9/13/01 196, BMI 31 (Stuck!) 1/24/02 190, BMI 29.7 (slightly overweight!! have lost 80.2% of my excess weight) 4/2/02 200, ARGH! Very frightening moment. Hopefully I can lose back down to 190 quickly! 4/28/02 201 (started a starch-free, 4 hours a week of exercise program...weighed in at the gym) 9/22/02 Tummy Tuck, Thigh Lift, and Lower Back Lift, Dr. Shermack, s Hopkins, Bayview, Baltimore, MD -- 12 pounds of skin removed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 > I agree with you here. We have spent a large part of our lives with our looking-glass selves developing our own opinion of ourselves by other people's reactions. ******** Ooooooooo, never thought of this. This is SO accurate. I can tell if I look " together " or scrambled instantly by how my staff reacts. Or if I look businessy or sexy by Don's response. The mirror sure isn't gonan tell me the truth Now all of a sudden the rest of the world is acting and treating us differently whether we consciously feel and see it. > > We now are fighting to re-develop our self - opinions as each day goes by and it's hard to rewire our thinking. > > IMO > > Betty > Re: Need " Compassionate " advice > > > In a message dated 10/9/02 2:56:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > sunstar1111@... writes: > > > > Maybe I'm too real for you, but > > I'm still putting this out.. for one more time. I hope you will find > > it in your heart to hear where I'm coming from. Blessings to you all > > in your journey. Thanks, I know this is long. > > sunstar > > > > > > > > Sunstar, > > You reminded me just how hard this all is. I think, sometimes, we get caught > up in the mundane (protein, binders, clothes, gas, etc.) and forgot (at least > on the list) the intense emotional effects of this surgery, losing enormous > amounts of weight very quickly, and reinventing yourself. But I very much > doubt that all that is truly forgotten by each of us. I doubt there is > anyone on here who hasn't been challenged emotionally to the limit during > their WLS experience. You just can't stir a pot as much as we do through > this process and not produce some spillover. > > I think the key for you is going to be to reach out for support. And I mean > everywhere. Friends. Support groups (online and in person). Therapists. > Your surgeon. Your PCP. You go to everyone and everybody for assistance. > You just can't get through all this all alone. And, I do believe, for my of > us who are obese, key to healing (getting over the anger and other troubling > things) is reconnecting with people. > > I hope this helps a little. We are all here for you. > > > > se > Baltimore, MD > Open RNY 11/22/99, Dr. Sweet, Reading, PA > http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=L951569336ttp://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=L951569336 > > > 11/22/99 324, BMI 51 > 12/6/99 301, BMI 47 > 1/27/00 280, BMI 44 > 2/22/00 270, BMI 42 > 3/16/00 262, BMI 41 > 5/31/00 244, BMI 38 (no longer extremely obese... just plain obese) > 7/22/00 224, BMI 35 > 9/23/00 220, BMI 34 (and still obese) > 10/16/00 216, BMI 34 > 11/7/00 210, BMI 33 (65 pounds from goal!!!) > 5/8/01 196, BMI 31 (new goal 157; I am 5'7 " that would give me a BMI > of 24.6; 39 pounds to go) > 9/13/01 196, BMI 31 (Stuck!) > 1/24/02 190, BMI 29.7 (slightly overweight!! have lost 80.2% of my > excess weight) > 4/2/02 200, ARGH! Very frightening moment. Hopefully I can lose back > down to 190 quickly! > 4/28/02 201 (started a starch-free, 4 hours a week of exercise > program...weighed in at the gym) > 9/22/02 Tummy Tuck, Thigh Lift, and Lower Back Lift, Dr. Shermack, s > Hopkins, Bayview, > Baltimore, MD -- 12 pounds of skin removed!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 I agree with you here. We have spent a large part of our lives with our looking-glass selves developing our own opinion of ourselves by other people's reactions. Now all of a sudden the rest of the world is acting and treating us differently whether we consciously feel and see it. We now are fighting to re-develop our self - opinions as each day goes by and it's hard to rewire our thinking. IMO Betty Re: Need " Compassionate " advice In a message dated 10/9/02 2:56:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sunstar1111@... writes: > Maybe I'm too real for you, but > I'm still putting this out.. for one more time. I hope you will find > it in your heart to hear where I'm coming from. Blessings to you all > in your journey. Thanks, I know this is long. > sunstar > > > Sunstar, You reminded me just how hard this all is. I think, sometimes, we get caught up in the mundane (protein, binders, clothes, gas, etc.) and forgot (at least on the list) the intense emotional effects of this surgery, losing enormous amounts of weight very quickly, and reinventing yourself. But I very much doubt that all that is truly forgotten by each of us. I doubt there is anyone on here who hasn't been challenged emotionally to the limit during their WLS experience. You just can't stir a pot as much as we do through this process and not produce some spillover. I think the key for you is going to be to reach out for support. And I mean everywhere. Friends. Support groups (online and in person). Therapists. Your surgeon. Your PCP. You go to everyone and everybody for assistance. You just can't get through all this all alone. And, I do believe, for my of us who are obese, key to healing (getting over the anger and other troubling things) is reconnecting with people. I hope this helps a little. We are all here for you. se Baltimore, MD Open RNY 11/22/99, Dr. Sweet, Reading, PA http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=L951569336 " >http:\ //www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=L951569336 11/22/99 324, BMI 51 12/6/99 301, BMI 47 1/27/00 280, BMI 44 2/22/00 270, BMI 42 3/16/00 262, BMI 41 5/31/00 244, BMI 38 (no longer extremely obese... just plain obese) 7/22/00 224, BMI 35 9/23/00 220, BMI 34 (and still obese) 10/16/00 216, BMI 34 11/7/00 210, BMI 33 (65 pounds from goal!!!) 5/8/01 196, BMI 31 (new goal 157; I am 5'7 " that would give me a BMI of 24.6; 39 pounds to go) 9/13/01 196, BMI 31 (Stuck!) 1/24/02 190, BMI 29.7 (slightly overweight!! have lost 80.2% of my excess weight) 4/2/02 200, ARGH! Very frightening moment. Hopefully I can lose back down to 190 quickly! 4/28/02 201 (started a starch-free, 4 hours a week of exercise program...weighed in at the gym) 9/22/02 Tummy Tuck, Thigh Lift, and Lower Back Lift, Dr. Shermack, s Hopkins, Bayview, Baltimore, MD -- 12 pounds of skin removed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 > > I agree with you here. We have spent a large part of our lives with our > looking-glass selves developing our own opinion of ourselves by other > people's reactions. > ******** no truer words. I still don't see myself as thin or skinny and when a compliment comes my way it still takes me aback. of course I'm not hearing it daily like during the rapid weight loss time as I've been pretty much the same size for 3yr. now. " I " know how my skin feels under those clothes if its a fat day or a good day but from the public perception I look the same in those clothes I assume. anyhow, the cancer society had a big function last night and its basically an awareness event and since its also national domestic violence awareness month I was there preaching my usual sermon about dv. I had so many people come up to me and say how wonderful I looked, what a great sweater, cute pants, have you lost more weight - on and on that I was starting to get pretty self conscious. but my 'mirror' did not say any of these things when I got dressed in the a.m. we struggle with self perception a lot longer than we struggle with learning how to eat, what not to eat and such. sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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