Marge;

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Marge;

When I first move to Vancouver, there was a graffitti on a wall in

Gasstown which read " B.C. stands for bring cash " . Sadly

that set the mood appropriately. Several of out care homes are

being closed and old people separated from long-time spouses at the whim

of the government. G.F. Stong is closed and out patient services

for which I was slated are now gone. I received a letter declining

my doctor's request for liquid meal supplement, saying they now have a

three month limit (I have a permanent illness), the letter suggests going

to talk to my worker and perhaps something (not defined can be

done). They know I'm not well enough to go around crusading for

each and every crumb, but they need not care. It galls me that I

paid into a federally required pension plan her over thirty years and

cannot collect because my diagnosis arrived outside the guideline time

limit. The anxiety of not knowing what will happen next and having

neither control or protection is not helping anyone cope with infirmity,

these are desperate times. I've never heard as many sirens, I

suspect suicide rates are up (most of those will be written off as

overdoses). I think they hope many of us will conveniently die off

without making noise. Hard to make a protest out of people unable

to travel, stand and shout. There is for me no-one to proxy for me

as with so many others. I would like the balance of my life to be

filled with something better than anger, anxiety and pain. I

thought my protesting days ended in the mid-seventies.

Bill (Pilgim);

Don't misunderstand, fundamentally I'm against state sanctioned

euthanasia - too easy to abuse - do I really want others to decide for me

that my life is not worth living? I'd merely like some dignity. If

I am able to make that judgement that more pain killers are what I want

and the end result is fully understood, than it should be my

decision. Not my mother's (dear God, no), or my ex-husband, or the

government (should it be fiscally convenient). Nor do I want relief

withheld so 'they' can spend a few more days with me around (presumably

as a door stop). I'd like it to be between me and my physician,

private and confidential, so no one can feel slighted, nor I influenced

by sentiment. As long as I feel the choice exists I am unburdened

by one dark shadow at least. It is no more or less ungodly than a

Caesarean section where the date of birth is set by parents. I

worry that legislation will sanction the witholding of health care to

those who 'will die anyway' to save the healthcare dollar, and that is

becoming perilously close to reality here.

A friend of mine is into Voodoo

Acupuncture. You don't

have to go. You'll just be walking down the street, and...

ooooohhhhhh, that's much better.

Steve

aletta mes

vancouver, bc Canada

web:

http://aletta.0catch.com

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Aletta

I too thought my protest days were over but now I`ve joined the Raging Grannies, our protests are non violent and usually in song but are quite effective as the Media like something other than the usual.I agree with your sentiments over having control over your last days...do you have a living will?Or do you have an understanding with your MD?I think you give excellent advice re sleep medication I could`nt work without although I found I have had to increase the dose over time .I spent months refusing to take an anti depressant ,then read in an article (aboutPOTS) which said the serotonin reuptake inhibitors can help OH especially the feeling of imminent syncope(passing out) so now I take Celexa and it is helping.The Neurologist I saw last just scoffed and told me it was just keeping me calm -don`t you just love doctors who criticize other docs advice or stuff you have found out on your own? Fortunately I`m no shrinking violet and don`t hesitate to tell them when they are wrong and p....me off.I`m still healthy enough to get out and raise my voice so next time you will be on my mind and in my heart.

Marg Manson

Aletta Mes wrote: Marge;When I first move to Vancouver, there was a graffitti on a wall in Gasstown which read "B.C. stands for bring cash". Sadly that set the mood appropriately. Several of out care homes are being closed and old people separated from long-time spouses at the whim of the government. G.F. Stong is closed and out patient services for which I was slated are now gone. I received a letter declining my doctor's request for liquid meal supplement, saying they now have a three month limit (I have a permanent illness), the letter suggests going to talk to my worker and perhaps something (not defined can be done). They know I'm not well enough to go around crusading for each and every crumb, but they need not care. It galls me that I paid into a federally required pension plan her over thirty years and cannot collect because my diagnosis arrived outside the guideline time limit. The anxiety of not knowing what will happen next and having neither control or protection is not helping anyone cope with infirmity, these are desperate times. I've never heard as many sirens, I suspect suicide rates are up (most of those will be written off as overdoses). I think they hope many of us will conveniently die off without making noise. Hard to make a protest out of people unable to travel, stand and shout. There is for me no-one to proxy for me as with so many others. I would like the balance of my life to be filled with something better than anger, anxiety and pain. I thought my protesting days ended in the mid-seventies.Bill (Pilgim);Don't misunderstand, fundamentally I'm against state sanctioned euthanasia - too easy to abuse - do I really want others to decide for me that my life is not worth living? I'd merely like some dignity. If I am able to make that judgement that more pain killers are what I want and the end result is fully understood, than it should be my decision. Not my mother's (dear God, no), or my ex-husband, or the government (should it be fiscally convenient). Nor do I want relief withheld so 'they' can spend a few more days with me around (presumably as a door stop). I'd like it to be between me and my physician, private and confidential, so no one can feel slighted, nor I influenced by sentiment. As long as I feel the choice exists I am unburdened by one dark shadow at least. It is no more or less ungodly than a Caesarean section where the date of birth is set by parents. I worry that legislation will sanction the witholding of health care to those who 'will die anyway' to save the healthcare dollar, and that is becoming perilously close to reality here.

A friend of mine is into Voodoo Acupuncture. You don'thave to go. You'll just be walking down the street, and...ooooohhhhhh, that's much better. Steve

aletta mesvancouver, bc Canadaweb: http://aletta.0catch.comIf you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may unsubscribe by sending a blank email to shydrager-unsubscribe

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Aletta

I too thought my protest days were over but now I`ve joined the Raging Grannies, our protests are non violent and usually in song but are quite effective as the Media like something other than the usual.I agree with your sentiments over having control over your last days...do you have a living will?Or do you have an understanding with your MD?I think you give excellent advice re sleep medication I could`nt work without although I found I have had to increase the dose over time .I spent months refusing to take an anti depressant ,then read in an article (aboutPOTS) which said the serotonin reuptake inhibitors can help OH especially the feeling of imminent syncope(passing out) so now I take Celexa and it is helping.The Neurologist I saw last just scoffed and told me it was just keeping me calm -don`t you just love doctors who criticize other docs advice or stuff you have found out on your own? Fortunately I`m no shrinking violet and don`t hesitate to tell them when they are wrong and p....me off.I`m still healthy enough to get out and raise my voice so next time you will be on my mind and in my heart.

Marg Manson

Aletta Mes wrote: Marge;When I first move to Vancouver, there was a graffitti on a wall in Gasstown which read "B.C. stands for bring cash". Sadly that set the mood appropriately. Several of out care homes are being closed and old people separated from long-time spouses at the whim of the government. G.F. Stong is closed and out patient services for which I was slated are now gone. I received a letter declining my doctor's request for liquid meal supplement, saying they now have a three month limit (I have a permanent illness), the letter suggests going to talk to my worker and perhaps something (not defined can be done). They know I'm not well enough to go around crusading for each and every crumb, but they need not care. It galls me that I paid into a federally required pension plan her over thirty years and cannot collect because my diagnosis arrived outside the guideline time limit. The anxiety of not knowing what will happen next and having neither control or protection is not helping anyone cope with infirmity, these are desperate times. I've never heard as many sirens, I suspect suicide rates are up (most of those will be written off as overdoses). I think they hope many of us will conveniently die off without making noise. Hard to make a protest out of people unable to travel, stand and shout. There is for me no-one to proxy for me as with so many others. I would like the balance of my life to be filled with something better than anger, anxiety and pain. I thought my protesting days ended in the mid-seventies.Bill (Pilgim);Don't misunderstand, fundamentally I'm against state sanctioned euthanasia - too easy to abuse - do I really want others to decide for me that my life is not worth living? I'd merely like some dignity. If I am able to make that judgement that more pain killers are what I want and the end result is fully understood, than it should be my decision. Not my mother's (dear God, no), or my ex-husband, or the government (should it be fiscally convenient). Nor do I want relief withheld so 'they' can spend a few more days with me around (presumably as a door stop). I'd like it to be between me and my physician, private and confidential, so no one can feel slighted, nor I influenced by sentiment. As long as I feel the choice exists I am unburdened by one dark shadow at least. It is no more or less ungodly than a Caesarean section where the date of birth is set by parents. I worry that legislation will sanction the witholding of health care to those who 'will die anyway' to save the healthcare dollar, and that is becoming perilously close to reality here.

A friend of mine is into Voodoo Acupuncture. You don'thave to go. You'll just be walking down the street, and...ooooohhhhhh, that's much better. Steve

aletta mesvancouver, bc Canadaweb: http://aletta.0catch.comIf you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may unsubscribe by sending a blank email to shydrager-unsubscribe

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Aletta

I too thought my protest days were over but now I`ve joined the Raging Grannies, our protests are non violent and usually in song but are quite effective as the Media like something other than the usual.I agree with your sentiments over having control over your last days...do you have a living will?Or do you have an understanding with your MD?I think you give excellent advice re sleep medication I could`nt work without although I found I have had to increase the dose over time .I spent months refusing to take an anti depressant ,then read in an article (aboutPOTS) which said the serotonin reuptake inhibitors can help OH especially the feeling of imminent syncope(passing out) so now I take Celexa and it is helping.The Neurologist I saw last just scoffed and told me it was just keeping me calm -don`t you just love doctors who criticize other docs advice or stuff you have found out on your own? Fortunately I`m no shrinking violet and don`t hesitate to tell them when they are wrong and p....me off.I`m still healthy enough to get out and raise my voice so next time you will be on my mind and in my heart.

Marg Manson

Aletta Mes wrote: Marge;When I first move to Vancouver, there was a graffitti on a wall in Gasstown which read "B.C. stands for bring cash". Sadly that set the mood appropriately. Several of out care homes are being closed and old people separated from long-time spouses at the whim of the government. G.F. Stong is closed and out patient services for which I was slated are now gone. I received a letter declining my doctor's request for liquid meal supplement, saying they now have a three month limit (I have a permanent illness), the letter suggests going to talk to my worker and perhaps something (not defined can be done). They know I'm not well enough to go around crusading for each and every crumb, but they need not care. It galls me that I paid into a federally required pension plan her over thirty years and cannot collect because my diagnosis arrived outside the guideline time limit. The anxiety of not knowing what will happen next and having neither control or protection is not helping anyone cope with infirmity, these are desperate times. I've never heard as many sirens, I suspect suicide rates are up (most of those will be written off as overdoses). I think they hope many of us will conveniently die off without making noise. Hard to make a protest out of people unable to travel, stand and shout. There is for me no-one to proxy for me as with so many others. I would like the balance of my life to be filled with something better than anger, anxiety and pain. I thought my protesting days ended in the mid-seventies.Bill (Pilgim);Don't misunderstand, fundamentally I'm against state sanctioned euthanasia - too easy to abuse - do I really want others to decide for me that my life is not worth living? I'd merely like some dignity. If I am able to make that judgement that more pain killers are what I want and the end result is fully understood, than it should be my decision. Not my mother's (dear God, no), or my ex-husband, or the government (should it be fiscally convenient). Nor do I want relief withheld so 'they' can spend a few more days with me around (presumably as a door stop). I'd like it to be between me and my physician, private and confidential, so no one can feel slighted, nor I influenced by sentiment. As long as I feel the choice exists I am unburdened by one dark shadow at least. It is no more or less ungodly than a Caesarean section where the date of birth is set by parents. I worry that legislation will sanction the witholding of health care to those who 'will die anyway' to save the healthcare dollar, and that is becoming perilously close to reality here.

A friend of mine is into Voodoo Acupuncture. You don'thave to go. You'll just be walking down the street, and...ooooohhhhhh, that's much better. Steve

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