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In a message dated 10/30/2002 7:13:59 AM Pacific Standard Time,

kdirving@... writes:

> All of

> us here are morbidly obese, even though we're currently hiding out in

> " normal-sized " bodies -- we all know the fear, the sense of being out

> of control, the terror of feeling our bodies balloon out, of feeling

> compelled to keep feeding the monsters inside us, as they demand " more,

> more, more...! "

! This is SO TRUE!

YOUR words, express exactly how I feel! I am a morbidly obese woman,

currently hiding out in a " normal-sized " body! Yes, I know fear (even

now)--the sense of being out of control....as many days/hours I AM out of

control. Not only do I feel compelled to keep feeding the monster inside of

me....I try so hard to self-sabatoge and then feel so guilty! I get on that

scale every 4-5 days...and only allow myself to gain to the top of my goal

wt. range, then I do Atkins to get back down, so I can eat what I wanna eat

again. I made the BIG MISTAKE of getting back into the sugar, awhile back and

I have been overpowered by sugars since then. In any form. The weird thing

is...sugar never was my problem prior! Now, it is like a demon child took

over my free will..... Thank you for your post, it meant a lot to me.

Barb B.

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In a message dated 10/30/2002 7:13:59 AM Pacific Standard Time,

kdirving@... writes:

> All of

> us here are morbidly obese, even though we're currently hiding out in

> " normal-sized " bodies -- we all know the fear, the sense of being out

> of control, the terror of feeling our bodies balloon out, of feeling

> compelled to keep feeding the monsters inside us, as they demand " more,

> more, more...! "

! This is SO TRUE!

YOUR words, express exactly how I feel! I am a morbidly obese woman,

currently hiding out in a " normal-sized " body! Yes, I know fear (even

now)--the sense of being out of control....as many days/hours I AM out of

control. Not only do I feel compelled to keep feeding the monster inside of

me....I try so hard to self-sabatoge and then feel so guilty! I get on that

scale every 4-5 days...and only allow myself to gain to the top of my goal

wt. range, then I do Atkins to get back down, so I can eat what I wanna eat

again. I made the BIG MISTAKE of getting back into the sugar, awhile back and

I have been overpowered by sugars since then. In any form. The weird thing

is...sugar never was my problem prior! Now, it is like a demon child took

over my free will..... Thank you for your post, it meant a lot to me.

Barb B.

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Thank you for a beautiful and compassionate post ... I never thought of

the " body memory " aspect of this whole thing but am familiar with body

memories and I have a body memory of my year out " feeling " of those several

months of discovering the " what it takes to stay RIGHT HERE " and then

keeping it -- it lasted for months and months and I felt so sure that " this

is it! " I've gained a control system that keeps my body healthy and my size

the same -- some how that turned on me much later and now I spend every day

trying to get back to that place (ok, not necessarily that size) just the

place where I can feel I can stay... it doesn't have to be the " ideal " dream

as long as the health part stays the " ideal dream " -- I just want the size

to stay in one place... Right now I'm looking at a bounce around for the

last 3 months... nothing is " staying " no matter what I do -- it's up and

down and as my " body remembers it " this is how it all starts to crash around

me... I loose control (not over my eating, that's the same or less or more

or the same -- healthy) but my body begins to do weird stuff against my

will -- and that's the " body memory " I have from all the past times I've

lost weight... stayed there a while and then begin gaining again for no

apparent reason...

Goddess bless all those who don't go through this -- maybe your metabolisms

are in far better shape or for whatever reason you don't do this battle -- I

REALLY thought I wouldn't because everything felt right... it felt right for

so long... longer than ever before and my health was/is WOW.

Guess I have to say that is my biggest fear -- what if my health goes with

the regain? That is so frightening to even contemplate... maybe that is why

I feel like it is healthy to talk about it and healthy to see if others some

how learned how to control this and get it back... that magical " one place

for good " place.

I'll share if I find it -- I'm floundering and that is scary... your note is

very heart warming... thank you.

hugz,

~denise

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Excellently written, ! Exactly what I wanted to say. and one phrase you

used definitely struck me as something to post somewhere to remember.... " All of

us here are morbidly obese, even though we're currently hiding out in

" normal-sized " bodies " . That is exactly how I feel too...like the real

" morbidly obese " me, is just hiding inside this normal sized body waiting to get

back out. And I am just waiting for her escape, while trying my hardest to keep

her under wraps.

I am a Christian and I also join in the chorus of " there, but for the grace of

God, go I. " And I know it all too well.

Chrissie

26 months post-op -201 lbs 373/172

shihtzumom@...

http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: Irving

I have to say, I'm at 13 months out, and what you all are discussing

right now is my very worst nightmare. These days I'm feeling sort of

cautiously optimistic, hoping that my weight will not start to creep

upward again; but I have no " body memory " of this *not* happening, you

know? Every single last freakin' time I've *ever* lost a significant

amount of weight, it's only been a matter of time before it's started

to come back. I hope that won't be the case this time, but I won't know

till it's over.

My heart breaks for those of you who are struggling with regain right

now -- I know that no matter how small a regain it might look like from

the outside, it's an emotional trigger, a sign that this situation is

not so very different after all. I, for one, went into this surgery

only in part because of the promise of massive weight loss, but mainly

because of the promise of a better chance of maintaining that weight

loss at the end. I don't know right now whether I will be in the " can't

maintain " or the " no problem " camp, but either way, believe me, I

understand the horror and fear that those of you who are gaining must

be feeling right now.

I am feeling my way at the moment, working up to higher and higher

calorie counts daily, in my search for the " balance point " where I will

stop losing, but not gain either. At the moment, my main concern is

finding this balance point...I just have to hope that it exists! All of

us here are morbidly obese, even though we're currently hiding out in

" normal-sized " bodies -- we all know the fear, the sense of being out

of control, the terror of feeling our bodies balloon out, of feeling

compelled to keep feeding the monsters inside us, as they demand " more,

more, more...! " I hope we can all muster up some compassion for those

around us who are not in exactly the same places we are -- I'm not a

Christian, but I'd certainly join in a chorus of " there, but for the

grace of God, go I. "

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Excellently written, ! Exactly what I wanted to say. and one phrase you

used definitely struck me as something to post somewhere to remember.... " All of

us here are morbidly obese, even though we're currently hiding out in

" normal-sized " bodies " . That is exactly how I feel too...like the real

" morbidly obese " me, is just hiding inside this normal sized body waiting to get

back out. And I am just waiting for her escape, while trying my hardest to keep

her under wraps.

I am a Christian and I also join in the chorus of " there, but for the grace of

God, go I. " And I know it all too well.

Chrissie

26 months post-op -201 lbs 373/172

shihtzumom@...

http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: Irving

I have to say, I'm at 13 months out, and what you all are discussing

right now is my very worst nightmare. These days I'm feeling sort of

cautiously optimistic, hoping that my weight will not start to creep

upward again; but I have no " body memory " of this *not* happening, you

know? Every single last freakin' time I've *ever* lost a significant

amount of weight, it's only been a matter of time before it's started

to come back. I hope that won't be the case this time, but I won't know

till it's over.

My heart breaks for those of you who are struggling with regain right

now -- I know that no matter how small a regain it might look like from

the outside, it's an emotional trigger, a sign that this situation is

not so very different after all. I, for one, went into this surgery

only in part because of the promise of massive weight loss, but mainly

because of the promise of a better chance of maintaining that weight

loss at the end. I don't know right now whether I will be in the " can't

maintain " or the " no problem " camp, but either way, believe me, I

understand the horror and fear that those of you who are gaining must

be feeling right now.

I am feeling my way at the moment, working up to higher and higher

calorie counts daily, in my search for the " balance point " where I will

stop losing, but not gain either. At the moment, my main concern is

finding this balance point...I just have to hope that it exists! All of

us here are morbidly obese, even though we're currently hiding out in

" normal-sized " bodies -- we all know the fear, the sense of being out

of control, the terror of feeling our bodies balloon out, of feeling

compelled to keep feeding the monsters inside us, as they demand " more,

more, more...! " I hope we can all muster up some compassion for those

around us who are not in exactly the same places we are -- I'm not a

Christian, but I'd certainly join in a chorus of " there, but for the

grace of God, go I. "

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