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Is there anything besides Dr. Barnard's findings documented on this

subject, or are we ready to call him the final authority?

I need more then one man's opinion to convince my husband. I am not a milk

drinker, but my husband is and his teeth are great, his bones great and at

50 he still has all of his hair. (I'm not sure but was that mentioned as a

by product of milk drinking? lol )

I certainly believe that there is something out there killing us at an

alarming rate and it is on the increase. All the cancers are on the

increase and I know we are eating hormone-injected foods and meats (you don

t need to be a scholar to figure that one out!) I personally won't

eat eggs or chicken unless it is from a health food store of some type (cage

free). Hens are injected with a ton of hormones to increase the rapidity of

egg laying and then when the poor hens are ready to die from exhaustion they

slaughter them and feed them to us!!

Thanks for the reference :)

Carol G

Lap RNY 8/24/01

" If you always do whatcha always did,

you will always get whatcha always got "

~*~ Website: www.carollis.com

~*~ Proverbs " As you think, so shall you manifest "

~*~ Dr. Philip McGraw, " If you choose the behavior, accept the consequence. "

-- RE: sugar -- milk a no-no?

> Please help me: what is this major thing against milk on this

> list--aside from lactose intolerance (which I developed after the

> DS)? Is it just the sugar in milk? Or, is it something else that I

> am missing? If it is just the sugar, I'll take that hit (with the

> DS, there is no dumping), of course, using Lactaid milk.

> Thanks for the enlightenment,

> Steve

Sugar, weight gain, the lactose intolerance, fats... the reality that we do

have options besides cows milk which is by nature designed to fatten up a

calf (and humans)

Studies such as the one posted below as well as others that show milk/milk

products cause congestion in people with upper respiratory (asthma,

emphysema) problems and so on and on and on...

Study and link posted below -- one of many -- as well as many of us with

children now getting the " no " message from our pediatricians that milk

(cows) is not the " healthy " source of anything or the " healthy " choice for

our kids -- terms like " milk babies " -- over weight children and children

with respiratory difficulties anyway being complicated by the use of cows

milk... " Got Milk " is just an advertising campaign... not necessarily the

truth behind milk. The more studies, the more show it is not a healthy

choice for human consumption...

For all those who are not DS (or variation of) milk does have enormous

amounts of fats and sugars even in skim milk (no fat, still loaded with

sugar) -- all of this " Milk Is Evil " may totally not apply to you so if it

doesn't just skip it / delete it / or whatever your comfortable with... not

every " body " is the same so milk may be fine for you... and if it is then no

big deal *shrug*

hugz,

~denise

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Moo not necessarily good for you

>

>

> By NEAL D. BARNARD

> PHYSICIAN

>

> Syndicated columnist Rich Lowry recently asked what anybody could have

> against cow's milk ( " Milk is not your enemy, " Oct. 30). The fact that an

> intelligent columnist such as Lowry could ask such a question shows what

an

> abysmal job the medical community has done of educating people about how

> foods, including milk, contribute to health problems.

>

> The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine has been publicizing the

> surprising dangers of cow's milk products since 1992 after a New England

> Journal of Medicine study of 142 diabetic children showed that every

single

> child had antibodies against a particular cow's milk protein. By 1994,

> evidence from more than 100 studies showed milk proteins could trigger an

> autoimmune reaction that can destroy a susceptible child's

> insulin-producing cells, leading to diabetes. Dr. Spock and I

held

> a news conference alerting parents to this potential risk. But even the

> beloved Dr. Spock was no match for the dairy industry's ability to

> obfuscate health issues in a deluge of cute " milk mustache " and " got

milk? "

> ads.

>

> Milk's potential problems don't stop at childhood diabetes. Researchers

> have also turned their attention to the causes of prostate cancer, and

milk

> is squarely in their sights. Remember that cow's milk was designed by

> nature for growing calves. It contains not only an enormous amount of fat

> (half its calories) and sugar (one-third its calories) but also dozens of

> hormones and growth factors that are natural for a rapidly growing calf,

> but not part of a normal human diet.

>

> Milk's ability to promote rapid growth may be why 16 research studies,

> including two from Harvard, have shown that milk-drinking men have

> substantially higher risk of prostate cancer, compared with men who avoid

> it. Milk apparently alters a man's hormone balance in such a way that

> cancer cells are more likely to grow and spread.

>

> Of course, milk sometimes presents more immediate symptoms. For the

> millions of people who are lactose intolerant, a glass of milk can cause

> painful cramps and diarrhea. Lactose intolerance is not a disease. It

> simply reflects the normal loss of the milk-digesting enzyme after the age

> of weaning. A genetic mutation carried by most Caucasians causes this

> enzyme to persist into adulthood, preventing these symptoms. However, 70

> percent of African Americans and Native Americans, 90 percent of Asian

> Americans and most Hispanic Americans are lactose intolerant, as are many

> people of Mediterranean heritage.

>

> Unfortunately, although medical doctors have recognized for 30 years that

> lactose intolerance is as normal and common as blue eyes, the national

> school lunch program still refuses to provide soymilk or rice milk or even

> fortified juices as standard alternatives so that kids could pick a drink

> that won't make them sick.

>

> There was a time when soymilk and rice milk products couldn't compete in

> the taste department. No more. They now come in vanilla, chocolate and

> strawberry flavors and in low-fat and calcium-fortified varieties. Schools

> ought to serve them. But, for now, a school that serves soymilk or rice

> milk instead of the dairy variety loses its federal support. Such is the

> power of the dairy industry.

>

> What about calcium? Surprisingly enough, milk does not even promote

healthy

> bones. The Harvard Nurses' Health Study, which followed 78,000 women over

a

> 12-year period, found that those who got the most dairy calcium had no

> protection at all against osteoporosis. In fact, they suffered more

> fractures than women who avoided milk. A similar finding emerged in a

study

> of children in their peak bone-building years. Exercise made a big

> difference for bone density, but variations in dietary calcium -- from

> dairy products or any other source -- made no difference at all.

>

> What? Milk doesn't protect the bones? Not according to the best evidence

we

> have. It turns out that the studies the dairy industry has used to support

> a role for milk in bone health were improperly done. Many did not actually

> test milk at all, but instead used calcium supplements, which may have a

> better effect on bones. Other studies neglected to control for vitamin D,

> which is added to milk and has a bone-protecting effect of its own having

> nothing to do with milk itself. Vitamin D from multivitamins or sunlight

on

> the skin does help protect bones, and milk may be little more than its

> vehicle -- and not an especially good one at that.

>

> Certainly, kids do need calcium. But there is plenty of calcium in greens,

> beans, calcium-enriched orange juice and a full range of fortified

cereals,

> soymilks and endless other products. There is no need to risk prostate

> cancer or bellyaches trying to stomach the calcium in milk.

>

> Let's give our kids a healthier choice.

>

> Neal D. Barnard, M.D., president of the Physicians Committee for

> Responsible Medicine, is a nutrition researcher and author of six books on

> health and preventive medicine. The committee's Healthy School Lunches

> Campaign is found at http://www.healthyschoollunches.org/ " >www.HealthySchoolLunches.org

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