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In a message dated 11/14/02 6:22:58 PM Central Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

> It always makes me think of how embarassed parents of my

> parents generation were when their children hadd 'more than one job'...they

>

> did not realize the gold watch was not going to be able to be the future

> for

> their children. Now, the turn seems complete almost, one life, many

> adaptations.. .

> good for all of us

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This is long so if you don't have the time just hit delete..... 8=)

You certainly have hit a sore spot here! I was raised with the 'one life

one job' mentality. I was offered other jobs over the years but refused

because of a misplaced loyalty to the company. On 11/7/01 I was laid off

after 29 years. (downsizing) I am over 60 so my chances of being hired as an

HR Supervisor / Workers Comp specialist are slim and none.

Geez............think it could be age related? I had one little 'barbie' at a

major drug store chain actually drop her jaw and trip over her tongue when I

arrived for the interview.We had talked a lot on the phone and my voice does

sound younger than I am...chronologically. Then she proceeded to ask me

illegal questions and was perturbed at me for not responding. I have been

offered $7 ph jobs.

So here I am...one year later....still unemployed. Going to school studying

medical coding/ insurance billing. I decided I don't want a career...just a

job with insurance. Have any idea how much COBRA costs? About as much as a

new policy / with a new carrier if you can find one that will take

pre-existing conditioins. Am I bitter??? You bet! Will I get over it? Maybe

I shouldn't. I know I want to help legislators find some way to help folks

who are 2 years from retiring when they lose everything for downsizing! Yep

I talked to lawyers. Couldn't find one willing to take on the big guy in my

lifetime!

Takes too long and too much money would be lost.

So folks take heed. Save your money for legal representation, get more than

one degree and remember be loyal to yourself first.

Sorry but I had a rotten day! Feel better now...

G'nite :=O (yawn)

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK

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<< In a message dated 11/14/02 6:22:58 PM Central Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

<< It always makes me think of how embarassed parents of my

parents generation were when their children hadd 'more than one job'...they

did not realize the gold watch was not going to be able to be the future for

their children. .. >>

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>>>>>>JO RAHN WRITES: I was raised with the 'one life one job' mentality. I

was offered other jobs over the years but refused because of a misplaced

loyalty to the company. On 11/7/01 I was laid off after 29 years.

(downsizing) I am over 60 so my chances of being hired as an HR Supervisor /

Workers Comp specialist are slim and none. Geez............think it could be

age related? I had one little 'barbie' at a major drug store chain actually

drop her jaw and trip over her tongue when I arrived for the interview.We had

talked a lot on the phone and my voice does sound younger than I

am...chronologically. Then she proceeded to ask me illegal questions and was

perturbed at me for not responding.

********she put her entire company in jeopardy for a class action law suit

didn't she

I have been offered $7 ph jobs. So here I am...one year later....still

unemployed. Going to school studying medical coding/ insurance billing.

**********education that has a job at the end of it is the way to go, you

chose right I think.

I decided I don't want a career...just a job with insurance. Have any idea

how much COBRA costs?

********Been there, done that, more than once. COBRA last time cost us 6(*

dollars A MONTH for the two of us.

About as much as a new policy / with a new carrier if you can find one that

will take pre-existing conditioins. Am I bitter??? You bet! Will I get over

it? Maybe I shouldn't.

***********I think we could all consider transforming biterness into

righteous love and then try to help others who are knocked down, espcially

those who have less. Just my two cent's worth, you're far from " kept down " I

can tell, you ar coming out swinging, just our kind of girl... you can put

that injustice to good use. I only have a small cocern because I know

Bitterness is caustic ; it actaully de-energizes people, wears them down.

Righteous desire to do for people, to help others be cared for decently,

causes tiredness of another kind, one with a certain amount of feeling one

has tried to do something useful.

I know I want to help legislators find some way to help folks who are 2 years

from retiring when they lose everything for downsizing!

********you go right after that. Call up your local congressperson at the

State level and ask the hard questions and what you can do to helpp.

Yep I talked to lawyers. Couldn't find one willing to take on the big guy

in my lifetime!

*****usually those have to be class action; it may still be possible,

especially if you want to rabble-rouse others toward it. That's how class

action starts, on finds another, two find ten, ten find twenty, twenty find

100, and so on.

Takes too long and too much money would be lost. So folks take heed. Save

your money for legal representation, get more than one degree and remember be

loyal to yourself first.

Sorry but I had a rotten day! Feel better now...

G'nite :=O (yawn)

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK >>

*****glad you feel better for now. You have been through sh__! for the better

part of a year. That's a long time. You are doing for yourself. That is

important. hang in there. Can't go nowhere without wheels, Education can

provide one of the most useful sets.

love, ceep

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Jo, I'm sorry you had such a rotten day.

The GOOD news is.....you went from a 24W to a 14P

Congrats!

Good things will come your way :-)

It is a lot easier to be accepted at a " normal weight " than being

discriminated against for obesity....Best wishes to you, Barb B.

> So folks take heed. Save your money for legal representation, get more than

> one degree and remember be loyal to yourself first.

> Sorry but I had a rotten day! Feel better now...

> G'nite :=O (yawn)

> Jo Rahn

> 24W >14P

> sx 8/27/01

> Yukon,OK

Barb B.

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In a message dated 11/14/02 7:41:56 PM Central Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

> " I decided I don't want a career...just a job with insurance. Have any idea

>

> how much COBRA costs? " ,Jo Rahn

> ********Been there, done that, more than once. COBRA last time cost us 6(*

> dollars A MONTH for the two of us.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Pull up your drawers lady! Just heard from the ins. co. $878. per month. for

2003. Hubby is on SS and can't make much because of cap. (under 65)

I have received great support from the folks on this board. I am composing a

letter to the Lt. Govenor. She was just re-elected and is a senior citizen

champion. I will, also, following up with AARP. They might guide me to the

people I need to talk with. OK ladies and gentlemen...start your

engines....or get out of the way...

Jo

8=)

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>

Pull up your drawers lady! Just heard from the ins. co. $878. per

month. for 2003. Hubby is on SS and can't make much because of cap.

(under 65) I have received great support from the folks on this

board. I am composing a letter to the Lt. Govenor. She was just re-

elected and is a senior citizen champion. I will, also, following up

with AARP. They might guide me to the people I need to talk with. OK

ladies and gentlemen...start your engines....or get out of the way...

> Jo

>

******************************

You go girl! I love your style!

in NJ

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In a message dated 11/14/2002 8:40:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

> I am over 60 so my chances of being hired as an HR Supervisor /

> Workers Comp specialist are slim and none. Geez............

To show you how naive I am, I thought a bookkeeper can always get a job no

matter what age. I believed it because morbid obesity never held me back so

why should age. Even the employment agencies won't touch me. Fay Bayuk

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In a message dated 11/14/2002 8:40:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

> I am over 60 so my chances of being hired as an HR Supervisor /

> Workers Comp specialist are slim and none. Geez............

To show you how naive I am, I thought a bookkeeper can always get a job no

matter what age. I believed it because morbid obesity never held me back so

why should age. Even the employment agencies won't touch me. Fay Bayuk

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In a message dated 11/14/2002 8:40:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

> I am over 60 so my chances of being hired as an HR Supervisor /

> Workers Comp specialist are slim and none. Geez............

To show you how naive I am, I thought a bookkeeper can always get a job no

matter what age. I believed it because morbid obesity never held me back so

why should age. Even the employment agencies won't touch me. Fay Bayuk

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In a message dated 11/14/02 7:58:21 PM Central Standard Time,

BandonBarb@... writes:

> The GOOD news is.....you went from a 24W to a 14P

> Congrats!

> **************************************

> AMEN!! I am forever grateful for this surgery and my support. 30# to go! I

> can lift my Goldie @ 69#.......but I choose not to! I can out press hubby

> at the gym...........but I choose not to when he is around ;=)

Life really is great! Thanks for the reminder.

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK

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In a message dated 11/14/02 7:58:21 PM Central Standard Time,

BandonBarb@... writes:

> The GOOD news is.....you went from a 24W to a 14P

> Congrats!

> **************************************

> AMEN!! I am forever grateful for this surgery and my support. 30# to go! I

> can lift my Goldie @ 69#.......but I choose not to! I can out press hubby

> at the gym...........but I choose not to when he is around ;=)

Life really is great! Thanks for the reminder.

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK

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In a message dated 11/14/02 7:58:21 PM Central Standard Time,

BandonBarb@... writes:

> The GOOD news is.....you went from a 24W to a 14P

> Congrats!

> **************************************

> AMEN!! I am forever grateful for this surgery and my support. 30# to go! I

> can lift my Goldie @ 69#.......but I choose not to! I can out press hubby

> at the gym...........but I choose not to when he is around ;=)

Life really is great! Thanks for the reminder.

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK

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