Re: Anyone have this happen?

[Guest guest]

Jacque,

Please keep us updated on your diabetes.

This is a worry. I for one, never thought any of our comorbidity health

issues return....but, you are further out than I am.

I will be following your posts with great interest.

Best of everything to you,

BARB B.

>

> I am nearly 30 months out from surgery. I was dx'd with diabetes a couple

> of

> weeks before I underwent the surgery. After surgery, I was just fine, had

> no

> ups or downs in blood sugars. Now, 2 1/2 years out, the diabetes has

> returned with a vengeance, and it is scaring me to death. Especially due

> to

> the fact that I am not doing sugar. The natural sugars that are in the

> food

> I eat are in the single digits, yet I am up in the 250 range, and

> plummeting

> into the 70 range within an hour after a protein drink! I'm feeling

> horrible, I've been dizzy in the mornings, and breaking out in cold

> sweats...getting up all night long to use the bathroom (every 2 hours), and

>

> had no idea what was going on until I started feeling like my hypoglycemia

> was back (shakey and hungry)...and I began to monitor my blood sugars

> again.

> That's when I found my sugar was out of control. This has been going on

> now

> for at least the past couple of weeks. Has anyone else had this experience

>

> at this point after surgery, thinking that this comorbidity was gone for

> good, only to have it raise it's ugly head again for no apparent reason? I

>

> could understand if I was hitting the sugar...but I'm as straight as an

> arrow! There was no way I was going to go back to my prior ill-health!

> Yet,

> it seems it is happening without my help! I'm going to the doc tomorrow,

> and

> see what we can do to sort this out. I've been keeping a written record of

>

> everything that has gone into my mouth, and every blood sugar

> reading...hope

> this helps her get a handle on it. Any ideas from you brainy people out

> there will be appreciated too.

>

> Regards~

> ´¨¨)) -:¦:-

> ¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

> ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque

> -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

>

Barb B.

[Guest guest]

Jacque,

Please keep us updated on your diabetes.

This is a worry. I for one, never thought any of our comorbidity health

issues return....but, you are further out than I am.

I will be following your posts with great interest.

Best of everything to you,

BARB B.

>

> I am nearly 30 months out from surgery. I was dx'd with diabetes a couple

> of

> weeks before I underwent the surgery. After surgery, I was just fine, had

> no

> ups or downs in blood sugars. Now, 2 1/2 years out, the diabetes has

> returned with a vengeance, and it is scaring me to death. Especially due

> to

> the fact that I am not doing sugar. The natural sugars that are in the

> food

> I eat are in the single digits, yet I am up in the 250 range, and

> plummeting

> into the 70 range within an hour after a protein drink! I'm feeling

> horrible, I've been dizzy in the mornings, and breaking out in cold

> sweats...getting up all night long to use the bathroom (every 2 hours), and

>

> had no idea what was going on until I started feeling like my hypoglycemia

> was back (shakey and hungry)...and I began to monitor my blood sugars

> again.

> That's when I found my sugar was out of control. This has been going on

> now

> for at least the past couple of weeks. Has anyone else had this experience

>

> at this point after surgery, thinking that this comorbidity was gone for

> good, only to have it raise it's ugly head again for no apparent reason? I

>

> could understand if I was hitting the sugar...but I'm as straight as an

> arrow! There was no way I was going to go back to my prior ill-health!

> Yet,

> it seems it is happening without my help! I'm going to the doc tomorrow,

> and

> see what we can do to sort this out. I've been keeping a written record of

>

> everything that has gone into my mouth, and every blood sugar

> reading...hope

> this helps her get a handle on it. Any ideas from you brainy people out

> there will be appreciated too.

>

> Regards~

> ´¨¨)) -:¦:-

> ¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

> ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque

> -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

>

Barb B.

[Guest guest]

Barb~

I, too, thought this was all a thing of the past. I'm really in a turmoil

and a quandry. I'll post after tomorrow's doctor's appt. to let you know

what her input is. I never in my wildest dreams thought my blood sugar would

be out of whack again. I do my protein drinks every two hours by the clock,

should keep things all nice and steady, right? When I started getting the

shakes and the sweats...imagine my consternation! I figured it must be

something else...but dug out the old blood sugar tester just to rule it

out...and darn! Having wild and wide swings just as if I was eating pounds

of See's chocolates or something. I have the name, but not the game...sigh!

Regards~

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¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque

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> Jacque,

> Please keep us updated on your diabetes.

> This is a worry. I for one, never thought any of our comorbidity health

> issues return....but, you are further out than I am.

> I will be following your posts with great interest.

> Best of everything to you,

> BARB B.

[Guest guest]

Barb~

I, too, thought this was all a thing of the past. I'm really in a turmoil

and a quandry. I'll post after tomorrow's doctor's appt. to let you know

what her input is. I never in my wildest dreams thought my blood sugar would

be out of whack again. I do my protein drinks every two hours by the clock,

should keep things all nice and steady, right? When I started getting the

shakes and the sweats...imagine my consternation! I figured it must be

something else...but dug out the old blood sugar tester just to rule it

out...and darn! Having wild and wide swings just as if I was eating pounds

of See's chocolates or something. I have the name, but not the game...sigh!

Regards~

´¨¨)) -:¦:-

¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque

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> Jacque,

> Please keep us updated on your diabetes.

> This is a worry. I for one, never thought any of our comorbidity health

> issues return....but, you are further out than I am.

> I will be following your posts with great interest.

> Best of everything to you,

> BARB B.

[Guest guest]

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> Jacque, please let us know what your doc says tomorrow. This is just

very sketchy, but i recall two gb people who were Misdiagnosed with

diabetes, it was a type 1 rather than a type two as originally

thought, and they were still insulin dependent after surgery, their

docs discovered, but did not need as much as before.

I am sorry you are experiencing this and I think Barbara's advice was

good, diabetes educator for sure, and also ask you doc about diabetes

meds, if in fact it is diabetes, and not something else. There are

also docs that specialize in diabetes. The low blood sugar and all the

physical incursions are matters that need especial immediate medical

attention too.

hang in there and see what the doc orders and says

love,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/14/2002 4:09:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jacquemil@... writes:

> I am nearly 30 months out from surgery. I was dx'd with diabetes a couple

> of

> weeks before I underwent the surgery. After surgery, I was just fine, had

> no

> ups or downs in blood sugars. Now, 2 1/2 years out, the diabetes has

> returned with a vengeance, and it is scaring me to death. Especially due

> to

> the fact that I am not doing sugar. The natural sugars that are in the

> food

> I eat are in the single digits, yet I am up in the 250 range, and

> plummeting

> into the 70 range within an hour after a protein drink!

***********************************

Jacque, I don't remember where someone posted about this, but I do remember

reading that it happened to someone else. I know nothing about diabetes, but

it almost sounds like reverse reactive hypoglycemia that many are

experiencing with the sugar plunge after a protein drink.

Why can't they develop something like a protein hard candy which you can suck

on all day to keep the levels stable? I hope they can figure out what's

going on and you feel better soon.

Hugs,

in NJ

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/14/2002 4:09:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jacquemil@... writes:

> I am nearly 30 months out from surgery. I was dx'd with diabetes a couple

> of

> weeks before I underwent the surgery. After surgery, I was just fine, had

> no

> ups or downs in blood sugars. Now, 2 1/2 years out, the diabetes has

> returned with a vengeance, and it is scaring me to death. Especially due

> to

> the fact that I am not doing sugar. The natural sugars that are in the

> food

> I eat are in the single digits, yet I am up in the 250 range, and

> plummeting

> into the 70 range within an hour after a protein drink!

***********************************

Jacque, I don't remember where someone posted about this, but I do remember

reading that it happened to someone else. I know nothing about diabetes, but

it almost sounds like reverse reactive hypoglycemia that many are

experiencing with the sugar plunge after a protein drink.

Why can't they develop something like a protein hard candy which you can suck

on all day to keep the levels stable? I hope they can figure out what's

going on and you feel better soon.

Hugs,

in NJ

[Guest guest]

Hi Jacque:

I don't have diabetes, but my husband does (Type 2) and he uses both

insulin and pills to control his. His was out of control for a long

time until we finally got our PCP to refer him to an Endocronologist who

specializes in diabetes. Please try to find a doctor like this because

within one month, my husband's levels were under control and have stayed

that way for months now.

One of the biggest things that my husband has to avoid eating alot of

is sugar - any kind. If he has a small glass of juice, it causes his

blood sugar level to go up. Same thing with lots of carbs - these hit

the stomach and go into sugar, which will also cause a level rise.

Refined sugar is, of course, out for him, but he also has to be careful

of the natural sugars. He takes his readings 4-5 times per day - it's a

way of life for us now and we are all used to it.

I have heard of people who have had wls and either still have

diabetes or have developed it later on. Usually it has nothing to do

with their weight so much as it does with their pancreas having

problems. I mean, I weighed 400+ lbs. for years and diabetes runs in my

family and I never developed it, so some of it has to be because of the

pancreas and how it is functioning. I'm sorry that yours has come back,

but I know that with all the current medical treatments available, you

can live a wonderful and full life with diabetes as long as it's under

control. Just don't let it control you. I will be praying for you and

hope that you can find a good specialist who can help you.

Hugs,

Jerri in MI

[Guest guest]

Hi Jacque:

I don't have diabetes, but my husband does (Type 2) and he uses both

insulin and pills to control his. His was out of control for a long

time until we finally got our PCP to refer him to an Endocronologist who

specializes in diabetes. Please try to find a doctor like this because

within one month, my husband's levels were under control and have stayed

that way for months now.

One of the biggest things that my husband has to avoid eating alot of

is sugar - any kind. If he has a small glass of juice, it causes his

blood sugar level to go up. Same thing with lots of carbs - these hit

the stomach and go into sugar, which will also cause a level rise.

Refined sugar is, of course, out for him, but he also has to be careful

of the natural sugars. He takes his readings 4-5 times per day - it's a

way of life for us now and we are all used to it.

I have heard of people who have had wls and either still have

diabetes or have developed it later on. Usually it has nothing to do

with their weight so much as it does with their pancreas having

problems. I mean, I weighed 400+ lbs. for years and diabetes runs in my

family and I never developed it, so some of it has to be because of the

pancreas and how it is functioning. I'm sorry that yours has come back,

but I know that with all the current medical treatments available, you

can live a wonderful and full life with diabetes as long as it's under

control. Just don't let it control you. I will be praying for you and

hope that you can find a good specialist who can help you.

Hugs,

Jerri in MI

[Guest guest]

Yup! Been there, done that. My diabetes was never " cured " by the

surgery but I was able to stop all three kinds of insulin and just

rely on oral agents at three months out. Then we had to increase the

amount of oral agents I took and all the while the weight was falling

off. And, of course, like most everyone else I had been told since

the dx that if I would drop some of the flab my diabetes would

be " gone " . Then just a couple of months ago I went back on insulin.

Now granted, it isn't three injections a day of three different kinds

of insulin, just one injection and then only 5 units per day

but.........and that's after dropping 100 pounds. According to my

diabetes specialist, most everyone with diabetes pre-WLS will

eventually be back on their meds as they age. Don't know if that's

true or just his prejudice against WLS. So don't beat yourself up-

it happens to the best of us.

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

Has anyone else had this experience at this point after surgery,

thinking that this comorbidity was gone for good, only to have it

raise it's ugly head again for no apparent reason?

[Guest guest]

I was told for years that if I lost weight my diabetes would be

cured. Although my diabetes is fine now I also know that it can

always come back because of family history. Ironically, it didn't

seem to matter if the diabetic person in my family was fit or not,

they still had diabetes. I have the same problem with cholesterol.

Although the numbers are much better then before surgery, I may be on

cholesterol meds the rest of my life because my body doesn't know how

to process it. I was actually able to get off my cholesterol meds

for six months. My levels were retested and were lower off of meds

then they were before surgery on meds. I'll accept any little victory

I can get. Don't give up hope.

Lori O.

[Guest guest]

I went to the doc today...and she is a bit baffled too. We are running every

test known to man on my blood...she promised me we would sort this out...and

if she couldn't...she would refer me to someone who could...(an

endocrinologist.) So that's where I am today. A couple of quarts low in

blood volume right now...since they took so much...but hey, I don't

mind...whatever it takes! Just glad I have an " on the ball " internist that

cares! I'll keep you all posted on what we find. This is indeed puzzling.

Regards~

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((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque

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Hey Jacque,

>

> What a scary thought...mine came back with lots of regain....

> Just keep track and get into the dr to have them figure it out--maybe get a

> referral to an endocrinologist.

>

> Have you heard of the Freestyle monitors--you poke your forearm instead of

> your finger--it doesn't hurt at all....

> Please let us know what is going on with you.

> in Nebraska

> Anyone have this happen?

>

>

> I am nearly 30 months out from surgery. I was dx'd with diabetes a couple

> of

> weeks before I underwent the surgery. After surgery, I was just fine, had

> no

> ups or downs in blood sugars. Now, 2 1/2 years out, the diabetes has

> returned with a vengeance, and it is scaring me to death. Especially due

> to

> the fact that I am not doing sugar. The natural sugars that are in the

> food

> I eat are in the single digits, yet I am up in the 250 range, and

> plummeting

> into the 70 range within an hour after a protein drink! I'm feeling

> horrible, I've been dizzy in the mornings, and breaking out in cold

> sweats...getting up all night long to use the bathroom (every 2 hours), and

> had no idea what was going on until I started feeling like my hypoglycemia

> was back (shakey and hungry)...and I began to monitor my blood sugars

> again.

> That's when I found my sugar was out of control. This has been going on

> now

> for at least the past couple of weeks. Has anyone else had this experience

> at this point after surgery, thinking that this comorbidity was gone for

> good, only to have it raise it's ugly head again for no apparent reason? I

> could understand if I was hitting the sugar...but I'm as straight as an

> arrow! There was no way I was going to go back to my prior ill-health!

> Yet,

> it seems it is happening without my help! I'm going to the doc tomorrow,

> and

> see what we can do to sort this out. I've been keeping a written record of

> everything that has gone into my mouth, and every blood sugar

> reading...hope

> this helps her get a handle on it. Any ideas from you brainy people out

> there will be appreciated too.

>

> Regards~

> ´¨¨)) -:¦:-

> ¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

> ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque

> -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

> www.jacquemiller.gasupusa.com

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