Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 While on treatment, my TSH shot up too, tho it only got a few points above " normal " I felt awful. I began with a TSH of 3 and went to 7 something. The limits were 1 - 6. When my TSH went up, I had a lot of joint aches and carpal tunnel-like symptoms that went away when I finished treatment and my TSH came down. I'm on a thyroid newsletter thang, and other things I've read said that for women, thyroid should be about 2 to feel the best and that they (whomever did some research, not a lot done) felt that women were more sensitive to changes in TSH than men. Good luck to you and your friend, Alley Grand Prairie, Tx " The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words. " (Philip K.Dick) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 While on treatment, my TSH shot up too, tho it only got a few points above " normal " I felt awful. I began with a TSH of 3 and went to 7 something. The limits were 1 - 6. When my TSH went up, I had a lot of joint aches and carpal tunnel-like symptoms that went away when I finished treatment and my TSH came down. I'm on a thyroid newsletter thang, and other things I've read said that for women, thyroid should be about 2 to feel the best and that they (whomever did some research, not a lot done) felt that women were more sensitive to changes in TSH than men. Good luck to you and your friend, Alley Grand Prairie, Tx " The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words. " (Philip K.Dick) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 While on treatment, my TSH shot up too, tho it only got a few points above " normal " I felt awful. I began with a TSH of 3 and went to 7 something. The limits were 1 - 6. When my TSH went up, I had a lot of joint aches and carpal tunnel-like symptoms that went away when I finished treatment and my TSH came down. I'm on a thyroid newsletter thang, and other things I've read said that for women, thyroid should be about 2 to feel the best and that they (whomever did some research, not a lot done) felt that women were more sensitive to changes in TSH than men. Good luck to you and your friend, Alley Grand Prairie, Tx " The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words. " (Philip K.Dick) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 While on treatment, my TSH shot up too, tho it only got a few points above " normal " I felt awful. I began with a TSH of 3 and went to 7 something. The limits were 1 - 6. When my TSH went up, I had a lot of joint aches and carpal tunnel-like symptoms that went away when I finished treatment and my TSH came down. I'm on a thyroid newsletter thang, and other things I've read said that for women, thyroid should be about 2 to feel the best and that they (whomever did some research, not a lot done) felt that women were more sensitive to changes in TSH than men. Good luck to you and your friend, Alley Grand Prairie, Tx " The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words. " (Philip K.Dick) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Hi Alley, Thanks for your post about your experience. I think my partner is going to ask her doc for more tests (TRH?, T3?, T4?) before she asks for the meds. She really doesn't want to be taking meds if she doesn't have to even though she has some (not all) of the hypothyroid symptoms. Although she may be in denial, she has to figure out for what she wants and needs for herself. I appreciate your and Claudine's info...I just pass it on to her. It's interesting, my thyroid was fine during treatment, but it was 2 or 3 months after ending treatment that it started to shut down, but that's not that uncommon. Also, my chronic lower back pains went away a month after starting on treatment and gradually came back after ending treatment. That's not to say I didn't have other types of aches and pains, and other sides while on treatment, which I did. My back problems are much better now though, which I attribute to taking yoga classes 5 to 7 times a month for the past year and half, and working out every other day for the past two years. It helps being unemployed/self employed for most of that time to have the time to do that kind of exercise routine. Anyway, I'm rambling. Take care, Sara Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:02:28 -0500 From: " " <patriciajean@...> Subject: Re: Thyroid question While on treatment, my TSH shot up too, tho it only got a few points above " normal " I felt awful. I began with a TSH of 3 and went to 7 something. The limits were 1 - 6. When my TSH went up, I had a lot of joint aches and carpal tunnel-like symptoms that went away when I finished treatment and my TSH came down. I'm on a thyroid newsletter thang, and other things I've read said that for women, thyroid should be about 2 to feel the best and that they (whomever did some research, not a lot done) felt that women were more sensitive to changes in TSH than men. Good luck to you and your friend, Alley Grand Prairie, Tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Hi Alley, Thanks for your post about your experience. I think my partner is going to ask her doc for more tests (TRH?, T3?, T4?) before she asks for the meds. She really doesn't want to be taking meds if she doesn't have to even though she has some (not all) of the hypothyroid symptoms. Although she may be in denial, she has to figure out for what she wants and needs for herself. I appreciate your and Claudine's info...I just pass it on to her. It's interesting, my thyroid was fine during treatment, but it was 2 or 3 months after ending treatment that it started to shut down, but that's not that uncommon. Also, my chronic lower back pains went away a month after starting on treatment and gradually came back after ending treatment. That's not to say I didn't have other types of aches and pains, and other sides while on treatment, which I did. My back problems are much better now though, which I attribute to taking yoga classes 5 to 7 times a month for the past year and half, and working out every other day for the past two years. It helps being unemployed/self employed for most of that time to have the time to do that kind of exercise routine. Anyway, I'm rambling. Take care, Sara Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:02:28 -0500 From: " " <patriciajean@...> Subject: Re: Thyroid question While on treatment, my TSH shot up too, tho it only got a few points above " normal " I felt awful. I began with a TSH of 3 and went to 7 something. The limits were 1 - 6. When my TSH went up, I had a lot of joint aches and carpal tunnel-like symptoms that went away when I finished treatment and my TSH came down. I'm on a thyroid newsletter thang, and other things I've read said that for women, thyroid should be about 2 to feel the best and that they (whomever did some research, not a lot done) felt that women were more sensitive to changes in TSH than men. Good luck to you and your friend, Alley Grand Prairie, Tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Hi Alley, Thanks for your post about your experience. I think my partner is going to ask her doc for more tests (TRH?, T3?, T4?) before she asks for the meds. She really doesn't want to be taking meds if she doesn't have to even though she has some (not all) of the hypothyroid symptoms. Although she may be in denial, she has to figure out for what she wants and needs for herself. I appreciate your and Claudine's info...I just pass it on to her. It's interesting, my thyroid was fine during treatment, but it was 2 or 3 months after ending treatment that it started to shut down, but that's not that uncommon. Also, my chronic lower back pains went away a month after starting on treatment and gradually came back after ending treatment. That's not to say I didn't have other types of aches and pains, and other sides while on treatment, which I did. My back problems are much better now though, which I attribute to taking yoga classes 5 to 7 times a month for the past year and half, and working out every other day for the past two years. It helps being unemployed/self employed for most of that time to have the time to do that kind of exercise routine. Anyway, I'm rambling. Take care, Sara Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:02:28 -0500 From: " " <patriciajean@...> Subject: Re: Thyroid question While on treatment, my TSH shot up too, tho it only got a few points above " normal " I felt awful. I began with a TSH of 3 and went to 7 something. The limits were 1 - 6. When my TSH went up, I had a lot of joint aches and carpal tunnel-like symptoms that went away when I finished treatment and my TSH came down. I'm on a thyroid newsletter thang, and other things I've read said that for women, thyroid should be about 2 to feel the best and that they (whomever did some research, not a lot done) felt that women were more sensitive to changes in TSH than men. Good luck to you and your friend, Alley Grand Prairie, Tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Hi Alley, Thanks for your post about your experience. I think my partner is going to ask her doc for more tests (TRH?, T3?, T4?) before she asks for the meds. She really doesn't want to be taking meds if she doesn't have to even though she has some (not all) of the hypothyroid symptoms. Although she may be in denial, she has to figure out for what she wants and needs for herself. I appreciate your and Claudine's info...I just pass it on to her. It's interesting, my thyroid was fine during treatment, but it was 2 or 3 months after ending treatment that it started to shut down, but that's not that uncommon. Also, my chronic lower back pains went away a month after starting on treatment and gradually came back after ending treatment. That's not to say I didn't have other types of aches and pains, and other sides while on treatment, which I did. My back problems are much better now though, which I attribute to taking yoga classes 5 to 7 times a month for the past year and half, and working out every other day for the past two years. It helps being unemployed/self employed for most of that time to have the time to do that kind of exercise routine. Anyway, I'm rambling. Take care, Sara Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:02:28 -0500 From: " " <patriciajean@...> Subject: Re: Thyroid question While on treatment, my TSH shot up too, tho it only got a few points above " normal " I felt awful. I began with a TSH of 3 and went to 7 something. The limits were 1 - 6. When my TSH went up, I had a lot of joint aches and carpal tunnel-like symptoms that went away when I finished treatment and my TSH came down. I'm on a thyroid newsletter thang, and other things I've read said that for women, thyroid should be about 2 to feel the best and that they (whomever did some research, not a lot done) felt that women were more sensitive to changes in TSH than men. Good luck to you and your friend, Alley Grand Prairie, Tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 <<Also, my chronic lower back pains went away a month after starting on treatment and gradually came back after ending treatment. >> My joint aches went away on interferon too. Unfortunately they found me again when I finshed. When I had a bone scan it confirmed why I had a lot of problems with my lower back. All these years the doc says nothing's wrong. sheesh. Alley " You are only given a little spark of madness.You mustn't lose it. " Robin SFF_Texas Texas_Writers WritingAndPublishing critique_group ICQ 12631861 Alleypat AIM DallasAlleyPat MSN Alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 <<Also, my chronic lower back pains went away a month after starting on treatment and gradually came back after ending treatment. >> My joint aches went away on interferon too. Unfortunately they found me again when I finshed. When I had a bone scan it confirmed why I had a lot of problems with my lower back. All these years the doc says nothing's wrong. sheesh. Alley " You are only given a little spark of madness.You mustn't lose it. " Robin SFF_Texas Texas_Writers WritingAndPublishing critique_group ICQ 12631861 Alleypat AIM DallasAlleyPat MSN Alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 <<Also, my chronic lower back pains went away a month after starting on treatment and gradually came back after ending treatment. >> My joint aches went away on interferon too. Unfortunately they found me again when I finshed. When I had a bone scan it confirmed why I had a lot of problems with my lower back. All these years the doc says nothing's wrong. sheesh. Alley " You are only given a little spark of madness.You mustn't lose it. " Robin SFF_Texas Texas_Writers WritingAndPublishing critique_group ICQ 12631861 Alleypat AIM DallasAlleyPat MSN Alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 <<Also, my chronic lower back pains went away a month after starting on treatment and gradually came back after ending treatment. >> My joint aches went away on interferon too. Unfortunately they found me again when I finshed. When I had a bone scan it confirmed why I had a lot of problems with my lower back. All these years the doc says nothing's wrong. sheesh. Alley " You are only given a little spark of madness.You mustn't lose it. " Robin SFF_Texas Texas_Writers WritingAndPublishing critique_group ICQ 12631861 Alleypat AIM DallasAlleyPat MSN Alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thanks Claudine. gail Re: Thyroid question Gail, I don't think there are any " new " normal ranges for thyroid tests, just a few doctors who realize that men and women feel better with their thyroid hormones in different ranges. What I have read and what my endocrinologist told me is that most women feel best if their TSH is between 1.0 and 2.0 Over 2 and they start to experience symptoms of hypothyroidism. Note that TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone) is NOT part of the thyroid panel (it is produced in the pituitary gland) and that test must be ordered separately. Claudine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thanks Claudine. gail Re: Thyroid question Gail, I don't think there are any " new " normal ranges for thyroid tests, just a few doctors who realize that men and women feel better with their thyroid hormones in different ranges. What I have read and what my endocrinologist told me is that most women feel best if their TSH is between 1.0 and 2.0 Over 2 and they start to experience symptoms of hypothyroidism. Note that TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone) is NOT part of the thyroid panel (it is produced in the pituitary gland) and that test must be ordered separately. Claudine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thanks Claudine. gail Re: Thyroid question Gail, I don't think there are any " new " normal ranges for thyroid tests, just a few doctors who realize that men and women feel better with their thyroid hormones in different ranges. What I have read and what my endocrinologist told me is that most women feel best if their TSH is between 1.0 and 2.0 Over 2 and they start to experience symptoms of hypothyroidism. Note that TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone) is NOT part of the thyroid panel (it is produced in the pituitary gland) and that test must be ordered separately. Claudine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thanks Claudine. gail Re: Thyroid question Gail, I don't think there are any " new " normal ranges for thyroid tests, just a few doctors who realize that men and women feel better with their thyroid hormones in different ranges. What I have read and what my endocrinologist told me is that most women feel best if their TSH is between 1.0 and 2.0 Over 2 and they start to experience symptoms of hypothyroidism. Note that TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone) is NOT part of the thyroid panel (it is produced in the pituitary gland) and that test must be ordered separately. Claudine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 The answer did come from Claudine originally ... from some research papers. Middle age wimmin feel better if they keep their TSH at the low end of normal...around 1.0 (normal according to the medical profession is .5 - 5.5. Since mine is always jumping all over the place when on treatment, I've come to recognize when it is over 2.0...I start brain fog and a lot fo fatigue. And to think that years ago when rebetron blew out my thyroid, my count got up to 110.0....sure can't imagine how I functioned at all. But then I blamed the fatigue and brain fog on treatment never thinking about what else it could be. Blessings Tatezi Thyroid question I think Claudine will have an answer to this. What are the 'new' normal ranges of thyroid panel results for women? I am saying 'new' because these ranges are different for women, and few doctors know this. I believe you were the one who posted about the different figures for female vs. male, and that you were lucky enough to have a doctor who realized this. Thanks gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 The answer did come from Claudine originally ... from some research papers. Middle age wimmin feel better if they keep their TSH at the low end of normal...around 1.0 (normal according to the medical profession is .5 - 5.5. Since mine is always jumping all over the place when on treatment, I've come to recognize when it is over 2.0...I start brain fog and a lot fo fatigue. And to think that years ago when rebetron blew out my thyroid, my count got up to 110.0....sure can't imagine how I functioned at all. But then I blamed the fatigue and brain fog on treatment never thinking about what else it could be. Blessings Tatezi Thyroid question I think Claudine will have an answer to this. What are the 'new' normal ranges of thyroid panel results for women? I am saying 'new' because these ranges are different for women, and few doctors know this. I believe you were the one who posted about the different figures for female vs. male, and that you were lucky enough to have a doctor who realized this. Thanks gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 The answer did come from Claudine originally ... from some research papers. Middle age wimmin feel better if they keep their TSH at the low end of normal...around 1.0 (normal according to the medical profession is .5 - 5.5. Since mine is always jumping all over the place when on treatment, I've come to recognize when it is over 2.0...I start brain fog and a lot fo fatigue. And to think that years ago when rebetron blew out my thyroid, my count got up to 110.0....sure can't imagine how I functioned at all. But then I blamed the fatigue and brain fog on treatment never thinking about what else it could be. Blessings Tatezi Thyroid question I think Claudine will have an answer to this. What are the 'new' normal ranges of thyroid panel results for women? I am saying 'new' because these ranges are different for women, and few doctors know this. I believe you were the one who posted about the different figures for female vs. male, and that you were lucky enough to have a doctor who realized this. Thanks gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 The answer did come from Claudine originally ... from some research papers. Middle age wimmin feel better if they keep their TSH at the low end of normal...around 1.0 (normal according to the medical profession is .5 - 5.5. Since mine is always jumping all over the place when on treatment, I've come to recognize when it is over 2.0...I start brain fog and a lot fo fatigue. And to think that years ago when rebetron blew out my thyroid, my count got up to 110.0....sure can't imagine how I functioned at all. But then I blamed the fatigue and brain fog on treatment never thinking about what else it could be. Blessings Tatezi Thyroid question I think Claudine will have an answer to this. What are the 'new' normal ranges of thyroid panel results for women? I am saying 'new' because these ranges are different for women, and few doctors know this. I believe you were the one who posted about the different figures for female vs. male, and that you were lucky enough to have a doctor who realized this. Thanks gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 , Actually, both Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and Graves' disease are HYPERthyroidism not HYPO. My brother has such a bad case of Graves' Disease that when he was hospitalized, the had every med student at UCLA come to look at him and they took photos of him for medical textbooks! I also sent you a private e-mail with a useful link. On Jan 5, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Blackmon wrote: > > My sister went to a specialist yesterday and discovered she has > Hashimoto thyroid disease, which is an autoimmune thyroid disease. It > may or may not develop into Graves' disease. This is a form of > hypothyroidism. He said that parents and siblings should be tested for > the presence of thyroid antibodies in the blood or the TSH level. > She is on medication for the condition. I have read somewhere that > they are looking at the connection between autism and thyroid > problems. I have asked Dr. McCandless. Anyone know anything about > this? Now I am thinking my daughter and I should probably both be > tested, as well as my other children. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 > , > > Actually, both Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and Graves' disease are > HYPERthyroidism not HYPO. Actually Hashimoto's is HYPO. I have it. In fact I've just emerged from thyroid hell, thanks to the net. The endocrinologist was putting me on increasing amounts of levoxyl, and although my TSH numbers were coming down (though not to normal) my symptoms were *terrible. A net-mate told me to try Armour Thyroid, and since the endo refused to put me on it I found an alternative doctor who did. WOW! The first day I could feel my brain clear, the unbelievable fatigue lifted -- it was truly miraculous. Apparently it's quite common for people to respond much better to Armour or the other natural product. I recommend Shomon's book on thyroid problems (sorry don;t remember the title). I've been missing from this list for months because the Hashimoto's made me so tired I was not really functional. But the good news is that the right med is a wonder. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Ah yes, my mistake....I remember now that they told my brother that if his thyroid had to be destroyed due to the Graves Disease that he could develop Hashimoto's. They are both types of autoimmune thyroid diseases, but one causes too much hormone to be produced while the other causes too little. Thanks for the clarification! On Jan 7, 2005, at 5:53 PM, lanellici wrote: > > > >> , >> >> Actually, both Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and Graves' disease are >> HYPERthyroidism not HYPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Thanks Nell. I am just starting out with looking into this. My sister has had a really rough time. The biggest thing I notice is that I get really tired, especially after lunch. I had attributed it to stress and a bout of pneumonia, but I have been like this for a while. I also went through a period of depression, which is not like me at all. Oh, and I'm cold when no one else is. Thanks for the information. Re: thyroid question > , > > Actually, both Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and Graves' disease are > HYPERthyroidism not HYPO. Actually Hashimoto's is HYPO. I have it. In fact I've just emerged from thyroid hell, thanks to the net. The endocrinologist was putting me on increasing amounts of levoxyl, and although my TSH numbers were coming down (though not to normal) my symptoms were *terrible. A net-mate told me to try Armour Thyroid, and since the endo refused to put me on it I found an alternative doctor who did. WOW! The first day I could feel my brain clear, the unbelievable fatigue lifted -- it was truly miraculous. Apparently it's quite common for people to respond much better to Armour or the other natural product. I recommend Shomon's book on thyroid problems (sorry don;t remember the title). I've been missing from this list for months because the Hashimoto's made me so tired I was not really functional. But the good news is that the right med is a wonder. Nell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 , Also Iosol is excellent: http://www.wellnessresources.com/catalog/IosolIodine.htm That website has tons of good thyroid info and some other great thyroid supplements. You should check it out. My mother (who had her thyroid removed over 30 years ago) was able to stop her Synthroid. On Jan 8, 2005, at 10:13 AM, Blackmon wrote: > > Thanks Nell. I am just starting out with looking into this. My sister > has had a really rough time. The biggest thing I notice is that I get > really tired, especially after lunch. > I had attributed it to stress and a bout of pneumonia, but I have been > like this for a while. I also went through a period of depression, > which is not like me at all. Oh, and I'm cold when no one else is. > Thanks for the information. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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