SUCCESS STORIES

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In a message dated 4/11/00 3:47:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

angmullins93@... writes:

<< Hey everybody, one thing that helps keep me motivated is other

peoples success stories. Since I am new to the board and don't know

the history that most of you know about each other, I would love to

hear everyones story.What made you start Taebo? How long have you

been doing it? Have you seen any results?

Can't wait to hear them,

Angie

who just ate 3 reduce fat chips ahoy cookies because I have a cold

and am feeling sorry for myself! >>

Angie,

Check out our web page. Click on meet the members. A lot of us talk about our

experiences with Tae Bo there.

who can't remember the site's address but knows it should appear on

the bottom of this email!

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Hi Angie,

I started TB last Dec (1998). I started with the instructional, and then

the basic and then went to the advanced. When I started, I weighed about

115lbs. I'm 4'10 " . I really wasn't looking to lose weight, I just wanted

to tone up. Then I moved to the advanced in February. In May of 1999, I

noticed a big difference, and was fitting into clothes that I hadn't fit

into for a long time. I went from a size 5 to a size 3/4 and lost about 15

lbs. I continued to do the Advanced tape until about September. Then I

stopped. Slowly but surely, the weight and the inches came back on. I

noticed that in Dec of 99 some of the clothes that I finally fit into,

didn't fit anymore. I was so upset with myself. I decided to order the

Advanced Live tapes. I finally started doing them the last week of Feb

2000. At first, my clothes were getting tighter, now there fitting a

little bit better. I've lost 1/2 " in my waist, 1/2 " in each thigh, and 1 "

in my hips. I know that by the time May comes rolling around, I will look

like I did last May. It just takes a while. Before I met all of you, I

was ready to give up. All of you are really great and have helped me to

keep on kickin! Thanks to all of you and Blanks and his Tae-Bo

[Guest guest]

> Hey everybody, one thing that helps keep me motivated is other

> peoples success stories. Since I am new to the board and don't know

> the history that most of you know about each other, I would love to

> hear everyones story.What made you start Taebo? How long have you

> been doing it? Have you seen any results?

>

Angie,

I gave birth to my daughter on Christmas day, 1998 and weighed about 186 lbs

(I'm 5'9). I started going to WW in January and was going to the gym and

running on the treadmill, lifting weights, doing the machines, etc. In May

1999 my uncle who has raised me since I was 10 years old (my parents were

killed by a drunk driver when I was 10) committed suicide. It was the most

traumatic thing that I have ever been through (even more so than my parents

death) because it was so unexpected and NOBODY had seen it coming. To this

day, I still cannot imagine my uncle pulling the trigger. Anyway, I had

ordered the tae-bo tapes at some point after Skylar was born (or maybe

before, I can't remember), but I only did the instructional once and didn't

get into it. So, when my uncle died, I went and stayed with my aunt for

about a month and brought my tae-bo tapes with me, since I wouldn't have

access to a gym. At this point in time (May, 1999) I had gotten down to

between 160-165 lbs. I was working out for an hour on the treadmill or

machines and lifting weights, but I was getting bored with it all. So, I

started doing tae-bo and did the basic workout for a week or two and then

started in with the advance and the rest is history! I only do tae-bo now

and I am in the best shape I have ever been in. I have always been active.

I played basketball and volleyball in high school....was on the Crew

(rowing) team in college and have always worked out at the gym after that.

But, I have never had the muscle definition that I have from tae-bo. Before

tae-bo, I used to get on the treadmill and zone out. I worked out because I

felt I had to in order to lose weight. I certainly didn't enjoy it. When I

was finished running, I wrote down how far I had run and the calories burned

down to the tenth. The only reason I did it was so I could burn

calories....it wasn't fun. With tae-bo, I enjoy working out. The most

important change that has occurred for me is the inner changes....the ones

you can't physically see by looking at me. I am more confident in who I am

as a person. I actually like who I am and like what I see looking back at

me in the mirror. I learned that a workout is so much more than a physical

thing...that you have to work your spirit and your mind, as well as your

body, in order to get results. When I made that connection, it all fell

into place for me. I am no longer obsessed with the number on the scale (I

could care less what it says). I don't obsess about the foods I eat (I eat

whatever I want to in moderation...I no longer count calories/fat grams).

And, I am finally happy with myself. I have suffered from both anorexia and

bulimia in the past, so I have always been obsessed with food/weight. I

never thought I'd ever be able to look in the mirror and be happy with what

was looking back at me. My biggest success is the fact that I am healthy,

both mentally and physically. I feel strong and confident and happy to be

who I am. Yes, I have lost an additional 15 lbs. since May....I'm between

148 and 150lbs (my WW goal weight was 150lbs so I'm right on target, but

have a lot more muscle this time around) and I continue to tone and shape my

body, but it's done so much more for me on the inside. Yes, I LOVE the

outside results, but it's what it's changed on the inside that matters the

most.

who just laughed when the tae-bo customer service girl asked me how I had

time to do all these workouts

[Guest guest]

> Hey everybody, one thing that helps keep me motivated is other

> peoples success stories. Since I am new to the board and don't know

> the history that most of you know about each other, I would love to

> hear everyones story.What made you start Taebo? How long have you

> been doing it? Have you seen any results?

>

> Can't wait to hear them,

> Angie

> who just ate 3 reduce fat chips ahoy cookies because I have a cold

> and am feeling sorry for myself!

Angie, I am forwarding below my response to a similar question on

Saturday. To read about where I and many others started from, go to

our websight at http://taeboon/isportsdot.com and check under " meet

the members. " If you forget the address, you can find it at the

bottom of each e-mail from egroups or at the egroups site at

tae-bo_onegroups under " links. "

etcarroll <etcarroll@g...>

Date: Sun Apr 9, 2000 1:31pm

Subject: Re: I'm Curious and My BRAG of the week

(ATTENTION AMANDA)

---- Original Message -----

From: gigsgal@a...

tae-bo_onegroups

Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 10:16 PM

Subject: I'm Curious

Can everyone tell me their results with taebo.

That

really

motivates me when

I hear peoples results with things. I would really

appreciate it.

Thanks!

Angie

Angie, I am proud to announce (and am BRAGGING,

AMANDA),

that I have

lost 11 pounds doing taebo for almost a year. I didn't

have much to

lose when I started and I have been exercising at least

6 days a week

for an hour for years, but I have definitely lost some

weight from

taebeo. I'm 5'6 " and went from 142 pounds to 131 pounds

(YES, it is

official after weighing myself at very fitness clubs

and

at home). Part

of the weight loss (especially the last 5 pounds) could

be attributed to

other things as well -- I changed my antidepressant

from

Zoloft to a

supposedly weight-neutral one called Celexa and I

switched from birth

control pills (trinorinyl) to the sponge. I've also

stopped drinking

alcohol, which also means less binge eating calories

for

me.

I have probably lost a clothing size (from a 12 to a

10)

and I know my

body is a lot toner (ab muscles, shapely calves, buff

arms). I have

more stamina, balance, and strength. I also have more

confidence about

my body and have started yoga (6 months) and am even

thinking about

taking dance lessons. I am most proud of the latter

because I have

always felt very unathletic, uncoordinated, and

" move-challenged. " I

now feel like an athlete and this is coming from

someone

who did

everything to get out of gym classes and team sports in

school.

Really, Angie, taebo can do wonders for you physically

and emotionally.

You can achieve things you never even imagined.

Elena

[Guest guest]

> Patti & Everyone:

>

> You may put your story (success or no success) in our Files section

> on this site in the yellow box for the benefit of others. If you

> have any difficulty, I can put it in there for you.

>

>

Do I create a new file?

Patti

[Guest guest]

Go to Files in the yellow box, then " Enzyme Success Stories and Not-

So-Success Stories " , then " Create a Text File " . See if that works.

> > Patti & Everyone:

> >

> > You may put your story (success or no success) in our Files

section

> > on this site in the yellow box for the benefit of others. If you

> > have any difficulty, I can put it in there for you.

> >

> >

> Do I create a new file?

> Patti

[Guest guest]

Dear Aja, Ever tryed neurofeedback? Gail Pike

[Guest guest]

Hi Maureen,

Well, I'm not exactly like you, but sort of... I had a stroke when I was 16

rather than brain surgery -- but brain damage is is brain damage, I

suppose...? I have a very hard time speaking because of the aphasia that

struck (along with half my brain being paralyzed). Because of the stroke, I

have epilepsy, & I'm trying very hard to move away from conventional meds by

using vitamins, amino acids, nutrition, etc., but I'm still on Tegretol &

hating it because of all the side effects, short term & long term. Still, I

have simple-partial seizures (aura-type) which is controlled a lot by

Taurine etc.

Why did you have brain surgery?

~Aja

>From: " napsac2 " <maureen@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] success stories

>Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:24:44 -0000

>

>Hey top mom!

>

>I guess I am looking for someone close to my situation. That's like

>looking for a needle in a haystack..but. Someone who is still on

>drugs looking to move to alternative medicine (or already has), blood

>type O,

>has petit mal/aura type seizures, maybe has also had brain surgery

>like me and still having seizures (my seizures occur in the left

>temporal zone...thus, close to speech and memory), yada, yada, yada.

>I guess I am just a bit nervous. No matter how many doctors,

>friends, etc., you have to cheer you on - you are still alone and

>can't be sure of the results with such a move. So, having someone

>else who is living it or has lived it (never quite exact...but..)

>would be nice. Am I in dream world or what

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Maureen:

You are a little ahead of us. Right now we have neurologists looking at

whether my son is a candidate for surgury but we are looking for

alternatives. We are very leary of surgery since there are a lot of not so

successful stories. You did what most modern people seem to do--trust your

doctors. Don't hit yourself over the head about it. We trusted the doctors

for a long time too, but have now realized that we are the ones who must do

the research. I would love to find something alternative, so I'm reading

all these posts carefully in case there is something we could try.

>From: " napsac2 " <maureen@...>

>Subject: [ ] success stories - to aja

>Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 02:30:06 -0000

>

>Hey aja,

>I had surgery because that is what my doctor said was the only

>solution. I was diagnosed while I was living in France at the age

>of 21. We don't know the reasoning. I was very athletic in high

>school and college. I was also very much of a tom boy when I

>was little. So, who knows why I have epilepsy? So, while in

>France, my french family often noticed me looking confused and

>disorientated at bizarre times...so my french mother suggested I

>go to a doctor to see if there was something wrong. SO, an EEG

>and the doctor told me that I had epilepsy. Shocked is an

>understatement, but I just accepted and took the drugs she

>suggested - but I have to admit, I wasn't loyal about taking the

>meds. I didn't like putting them in me...and I guess I was just

>acting young and rebelious...maybe even in a state of shock.

>Four months later, when I got back to the U.S , my parents

>thought I should get a second opinion. We did and this doctor

>who focuses on JUST EPILEPSY agreed and increased the

>dosage to make sure I was controlled. Then, I began having

>seizures again and more frequent...,and a bit more severe over

>time (3 to four years). After trying about 7 different meds, my

>doctor suggested surgery. We just assumed this was the only

>way to go. After all, this is what she focused her life and job with

>- controlling seizures! She must know what she is doing! I still

>got a second opinion from another doctor, which in retrospect,

>was funny. I went to see a doctor the was like... her twin - they

>both focused on surgery for epileptics - of COURSE they're going

>to agree! But, that was 7 years ago when I thought that's all there

>was. Following surgery, I had to take speech therapy as I

>couldn't read. I couldn't remember BASICS...making a

>sentence....example " What beautiful flowers " was difficult. I didn't

>know how to say " flowers. " I knew what they were, but didn't

>remeber how to say them. The language I once spoke and

>taught at a local high school, French., was gone. Eventually, it

>came back., but with lots of practice.

>

>I guess I'm not angry that I did this. I'm sure for some people

>there is a success story following surgery. My seizures ARE

>better and more controlled. But, now that I see people who

>nipped in the bud....well, I guess I can only blame myself for not

>looking further and for alternatives prior surgery. In 1995, I just

>didn't see it as a possibility. And I don't think this doctor - and

>many others - will NEVER see it. BUT, now I am and I am on a

>mission! Soon, I look to have a success story. And it is nice to

>have such a group to look at every day. Very inspiring. =)

>

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Dear Aja, California has more " Health Nuts " and consequently more alternative

type services offered. Gail Pike

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

I've checked it out a little, & it looks promising -- with the right

people... I can't find the " right people " to go to who live/work in my area

(MD, Mont. Co.). Maybe I'll move to CA...?

>From: gpike90805@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] success stories

>Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:59:37 EDT

>

>Dear Aja, Ever tryed neurofeedback? Gail Pike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Before making a final decision about surgery, you might want to

contact Sig Othmer, lead scientist at EEG Spectrum. When a question

came up several years ago, I contacted him and got some very useful

information and insights about seizures and how to control them. As I

recall, he has worked with folks who were trying neurofeedback as a

last option before surgery.

Zoe

http://www.eegspectrum.com/

> Maureen:

> You are a little ahead of us. Right now we have neurologists

looking at

> whether my son is a candidate for surgury but we are looking for

> alternatives. We are very leary of surgery since there are a lot

of not so

> successful stories. You did what most modern people seem to do--

trust your

> doctors. Don't hit yourself over the head about it. We trusted

the doctors

> for a long time too, but have now realized that we are the ones who

must do

> the research. I would love to find something alternative, so I'm

reading

> all these posts carefully in case there is something we could try.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Maureen,

I have some similarities to your situation. I'm Blood Type O, and my seizures

begin in the Left Temporal Lobe with a complex partial seizure and progress into

generalized absence seizures. I've been on medication, and recently stopped

very carefully because the side effects were terrible and the meds didn't

control my seizures. My neurologist would have had me on the operating table,

no doubt, but I decided to change doctors. I feel much better with supplements

than I did with medications, but I still haven't found the " silver bullet " to

end my seizures. Nevertheless, I'll accept the consequences of seizures in lieu

of the horrible side effects of taking medications.

So, like you, I'm searching for answers and hoping that I might be able to

encourage someone else along the way. It is a step-by-step, day-by-day

procedure and I learn something new every day.

Best wishes,

Carrol

napsac2 <maureen@...> wrote: Hey top mom!

I guess I am looking for someone close to my situation. That's like

looking for a needle in a haystack..but. Someone who is still on

drugs looking to move to alternative medicine (or already has), blood

type O,

has petit mal/aura type seizures, maybe has also had brain surgery

like me and still having seizures (my seizures occur in the left

temporal zone...thus, close to speech and memory), yada, yada, yada.

I guess I am just a bit nervous. No matter how many doctors,

friends, etc., you have to cheer you on - you are still alone and

can't be sure of the results with such a move. So, having someone

else who is living it or has lived it (never quite exact...but..)

would be nice. Am I in dream world or what?

[Guest guest]

I wish that I could help. Our son is the one with epilepsy . he had surgery

for left mesial temporal sclerosis in nov. of 2000 and has been seizure free

for nearly a year now. He is still on meds but hopes to be off soon.

alternatives helped but didn't cure him. surgery has been the most

beneficial. although it has caused some learning problems as it is his

dominant side.

if you want more info please feel free to e-mai;l me directly as i hardly

ever get to go through all this mail formt he group as it is very

overwhelming.

Topmom7698@...

[Guest guest]

Nic and Ingeborg,

I would really like to hear some success stories right about now too.

I stopped taking all meds today in hopes that my head will clear and I will

be able to function again.

I do know a lady that lives in the same small town I live in that was dx with

lyme and is now working full time.

She was able to continue to work part time while she had lyme so she didn't

get the point I did before being dx.

I do now that she couldn't even make it a few feet at one point.

I also know that a lady in my LLMD's office has gotten 90% of her health

back.

And my LLMD has gotten 90% of his health back.

And a lady I met when I was first dx is living a more " normal " life now. She

hasn't been able to return to work, but she does go to Bible Study and perhaps

a department store and out to eat every now and then.

She was bedridden for about two years or more. Now, she is about 50/50 I

would say. I don't know, I need to ask her what percentage she is functioning

at.

Any other success stories out there?

Kate

[Guest guest]

Nic and Ingeborg,

I would really like to hear some success stories right about now too.

I stopped taking all meds today in hopes that my head will clear and I will

be able to function again.

I do know a lady that lives in the same small town I live in that was dx with

lyme and is now working full time.

She was able to continue to work part time while she had lyme so she didn't

get the point I did before being dx.

I do now that she couldn't even make it a few feet at one point.

I also know that a lady in my LLMD's office has gotten 90% of her health

back.

And my LLMD has gotten 90% of his health back.

And a lady I met when I was first dx is living a more " normal " life now. She

hasn't been able to return to work, but she does go to Bible Study and perhaps

a department store and out to eat every now and then.

She was bedridden for about two years or more. Now, she is about 50/50 I

would say. I don't know, I need to ask her what percentage she is functioning

at.

Any other success stories out there?

Kate

[Guest guest]

Nic and Ingeborg,

I would really like to hear some success stories right about now too.

I stopped taking all meds today in hopes that my head will clear and I will

be able to function again.

I do know a lady that lives in the same small town I live in that was dx with

lyme and is now working full time.

She was able to continue to work part time while she had lyme so she didn't

get the point I did before being dx.

I do now that she couldn't even make it a few feet at one point.

I also know that a lady in my LLMD's office has gotten 90% of her health

back.

And my LLMD has gotten 90% of his health back.

And a lady I met when I was first dx is living a more " normal " life now. She

hasn't been able to return to work, but she does go to Bible Study and perhaps

a department store and out to eat every now and then.

She was bedridden for about two years or more. Now, she is about 50/50 I

would say. I don't know, I need to ask her what percentage she is functioning

at.

Any other success stories out there?

Kate

[Guest guest]

Kate,

I have posted numerous times over the course of the past couple of years to

reach out and let you know my success with Sunrider Herbal Food.

To give you some background, my whole family and I were hit with Lyme in

1989. First my husband came down with a flu with a stiff neck, which lead to

encephalitis and a major hospitalization. Two days after that my father passed

away. On the day of my father's funeral, my daughter came down with a severe

case of Chickenpox, which she caught from my son who had it several weeks

before. After her recovery, and most likely from the stress of the situation

(losing their grandfather and their father being in the hospital) both of my

children became very ill with neurological problems, i.e., falling, limping,

memory

problems, not to mention swollen joints and massive headaches, and sleeping

endlessly or not at all. My son was then 11 and my daughter 8 years old. The

pediatrician blew me off and said it was stress. I took them to my family

doctor, and he had been seeing a number of Lyme cases in the area (I live in

central NJ) and he tested them and they both came up positive. He referred me

to a

pediatrician who would treat them and they were both hospitalized together in

May, 1989. My husband was now being treated for depression in another

hospital an hour away. (They saw the brain infection as depression). That was

May,

1989, (Memorial Day weekend) the start of the biggest nightmare in my life.

I received a phone call from my family doctor at the hospital one day and he

informed me that he found a Lyme test that had gotten buried on his desk from

my husband when he was taken to the ER in March of that year. He said it was

positive. I felt like this was a sadistic test of my strength. My husband was

not being treated for what was really wrong with him and all this time was

wasted. My children were on i.v. rosephen for 30 days and then on orals for

another two months. They felt better, went back to school when the summer was

over, and slowly deteriorated again.

Then I became ill with Lyme in November of that year, but was not diagnosed

until April of 1990, when my face collapsed from Facial Palsy. I was then

treated as well intravenously and with repeated courses of orals. This went on

for years with my children taking turns going back into the hospital and were

both classified Chronically Ill, spending most of their middle school days on

home instruction. I know this sounds all too familiar to many of you.

Then when I finally was at my wits end in 1995, with my daughter in a

hospital bed in my family room on a 24 hour i.v. pump of ampercillin, and me

lying on

the couch next to her with CFS and Lyme, I finally took the advice of a

friend of mine who was introduced to Sunrider Herbal Foods from a cousin of hers

on

her trip to California.

I relented to her nagging and made myself a smoothy as she had taught me to.

I felt like my body had a nutritional support that I hadn't experienced with

any other vitamins or even juicing. I began to give it to my daughter and

after a short time, I noticed she had better color in her cheeks. Within a

month, she was off the i.v. and back in school.

We have been eating these foods since 1995 and have been Lyme antibiotic free

since then. It is a natural part of our lives, and I use a lot of the

household replacement products from Sunrider as well, and purchase all of my

skin

care through them, which allows me to save money as they are so concentrated.

Also, what we cleanse and nourish our skin with is extremely important as it

allows our bodies to cleanses properly without clogging up the pores. Even

cleaners and laundry detergent are important to be pure because we breath in

toxins from cleaners and clothing washed in laundry detergent may have chemicals

which touch our skin.

I have reached out and helped many in my area with chronic illnesses. My

friend who introduced me to these foods has helped AIDS groups as well. I

became

an Herbal Food Advisor for this company, having attended many seminars and

classes, because I believe so passionately in these products. They are based on

the theory of regeneration from ancient China, " If the body receives proper

nourishment, it will heal itself. " I would be happy to speak to any of you who

would like more info on these products.

All my best,

Rauch

Herbal Food Advisor

Sunrider Int'l

(732) 946-2216

[Guest guest]

Do you have good Lyme Literate doctors in Holland? Do they follow a protocol?

Holland is beautiful. Would like to hear more.

Thanks.........suev

iglubach <iglubach@...> wrote: Hello Lymies,

Nic just started a new treatment, so his story is not a success story

at the moment. We hope it will become sometime but I know it takes

time to treat and recover from Lyme.

For now I think success stories from other Lymies will help him to

fight this disease and gave him his faith for a better future back.

And I think he wouldn't be the only one.

On the American site: http://flash.lymenet.org they allready have a

topic for 'Success stories', but over her I miss it.

Thanks & Greetings from Holland,

Nic & Ingeborg

[Guest guest]

Hello Suev,

A good LLMD? What is that? We don't have them at all. Some will say

they know everything about Lyme, but how more they promise, how less

they take their patient serious. Ones Nic went to such a doctor in

Amsterdam. This 'duck' didn't even read Nic's case or listened to his

story. It didn't matter what Nic told him, the 'duck' was sure it

wasn't LD but PSMA (some kind of musscle disease like ALS). And

this 'duck' isn't the only one here in Holland.

Yes they have a protocol, sure. But it told them that LD would be

deffinitly over in 30 days on abx?!

But we are so happy that Nic's familly-doctor doesn't follow this

protocal anymore. She only listen to what we tell her about good

treatment. So maybe she will become a LLMD even when she is only a

first line doctor. I also have the address from dr. Meer in

Switzerland (New ILADS Guidelines) and that is I supposse the nearest

LLMD. So when she needs help or advice, she can ask this doctor.

Yes, Holland is beautiful, but not for Lymies,

Greetings Nic & Ingeborg

Hello Lymies,

>

> Nic just started a new treatment, so his story is not a success

story

> at the moment. We hope it will become sometime but I know it takes

> time to treat and recover from Lyme.

>

> For now I think success stories from other Lymies will help him to

> fight this disease and gave him his faith for a better future back.

> And I think he wouldn't be the only one.

>

> On the American site: http://flash.lymenet.org they allready have a

> topic for 'Success stories', but over her I miss it.

>

> Thanks & Greetings from Holland,

>

> Nic & Ingeborg

[Guest guest]

Thanks Connie for your words of encouragement. I had a name for what knocked

me on my behind in Dec. 2002.

I started treatment in 2003: 3 months at the beginning and 3 months at the

end I am guessing.

At times such as now, I have wondered about continuing with the abx since I

am less functioning while taking them.

I especially don't deal well with the inflamed brain for lack of really

knowing what is going on. I am very low functioning at that time and need to

just

lie still, close my eyes and wait it out.

But, when I go off the abx, I also have a rough time of it. Then I read

something such as your post that helps me to get started again.

I just stopped taking all meds as of Tuesday afternoon due to cold/flu like

symptoms...different than what I was all ready dealing with for the past 2 and

a half years.

I really do think I caught a cold.

I am now going to give myself a bicillin shot and get the ball rolling again.

I sure hope I don't have the head thing again. It finally let up today after

4 days of it.

I am bedridden for the most part with the exception of being able to get out

and about in my power chair every now and then for a short time. I really

enjoy those times and am very thankful for the power chair.

I also am thankful for the person who comes and cleans the house, does the

laundry and fixes meals 10 hours a week.

I am thankful for the county for paying for this at min. wage.

I am not multitasked anymore. It seems it takes all I have just to sit or

stand...thinking and processing is out for the most part.

I am wondering what others have found that they can do. I have found that

straight walking at times works. Other times it does not.

Sitting upright in the power chair works for short periods of time. Other

times not.

Staying down for several days seems to recharge my batteries so I can do

something once and a while if I limit myself.

The only thing that I have been able to count on is that I have been able to

take a hot bath every other day in epsom salts. This is good.

But, other than that, I don't know what to expect most of the time.

I read two paper backs recently while I have been flat on my back for the

past 4 days. That is a first in over 2 years.

The print was out of focus or I had double vision, but I was able to do the

best I could. When I first got this, I was in shock that I couldn't read. At

that time, it wasn't the double or blurred vision..it had something to do with

processing.

It was very strange. It was as if my mind was picking up the word and then

immediately dropping it and then picking up the next word and dropping it. The

mind moved very slowly also.

I expect the ability to read to continue to come and go for now.

Well, yammering is one symptom I have picked up since this hit I must admit.

You all take care now ya hear!

[Guest guest]

<<<<<<For now I think success stories from other Lymies will help him to fight

this disease and gave him his faith for a better future back.

And I think he wouldn't be the only one.>>>>>>>

Even though it seems as if you will never return to a normal way of life.

...........please believe you will. I've been there so I know what Nic is

going through. I thought I would lose my job and become a vegetable for life.

Fortunately, after a lot of trial and error with Drs. and meds, I found a LLMD

that through several meds, was able to help me kill off those ugly spirochetes.

I then followed a protocol consisting of various vitamins and minerals to help

rebuild my spirocheteal and abx destroyed body. Remember it takes a long time

on abx to destroy the buggers, and it takes awhile to rebuild your immune system

after years of treatment.

Just remember there are people that have gotten better.......it is definitely

within your grasps......it just isn't going to happen in a short time frame.

Unfortunately, most people who get better leave this group, I am one of those

people....so you don't get to talk to a lot of people who are cured.

I pop in once in a blue moon, just to see if I can offer any hope.

So Nic.......hang in there........there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

I was terribly ill.........and yes, I did survive lyme..you will too.

ConnieKnwnj

When our bodies & minds are out of balance.......

........we suffer!

[Guest guest]

How much Lyme is experienced in Holland? is there any reports for Holland on

Lyme Disease?

iglubach <iglubach@...> wrote: Hello Suev,

A good LLMD? What is that? We don't have them at all. Some will say

they know everything about Lyme, but how more they promise, how less

they take their patient serious. Ones Nic went to such a doctor in

Amsterdam. This 'duck' didn't even read Nic's case or listened to his

story. It didn't matter what Nic told him, the 'duck' was sure it

wasn't LD but PSMA (some kind of musscle disease like ALS). And

this 'duck' isn't the only one here in Holland.

Yes they have a protocol, sure. But it told them that LD would be

deffinitly over in 30 days on abx?!

But we are so happy that Nic's familly-doctor doesn't follow this

protocal anymore. She only listen to what we tell her about good

treatment. So maybe she will become a LLMD even when she is only a

first line doctor. I also have the address from dr. Meer in

Switzerland (New ILADS Guidelines) and that is I supposse the nearest

LLMD. So when she needs help or advice, she can ask this doctor.

Yes, Holland is beautiful, but not for Lymies,

Greetings Nic & Ingeborg

[Guest guest]

Hello Sue,

Here in Holland we don't have reports about how many Lymies we have.

We (the Lymies) want to know, but for the civilians of Holland it

become hard to give their opinion. Our goverment makes the rules, and

we just have to follow them.

The doctors say they are LL when they found a rash on their own body

(first level). But they give theirself abx for who know how long to

recover and we have to do it with 30 days at the most. For the rest

they only follow the good paid ($ 4 million) study and not the reply

from ILADS. And the problem is that the official group for Lymies

follows them as well (the wrong protocal). For Holland chronic Lyme

isn't possible. So when you have it, you'll stand alone.

Greetings from Holland,

Nic & Ingeborg

Hello Suev,

>

> A good LLMD? What is that? We don't have them at all. Some will say

> they know everything about Lyme, but how more they promise, how

less

> they take their patient serious. Ones Nic went to such a doctor in

> Amsterdam. This 'duck' didn't even read Nic's case or listened to

his

> story. It didn't matter what Nic told him, the 'duck' was sure it

> wasn't LD but PSMA (some kind of musscle disease like ALS). And

> this 'duck' isn't the only one here in Holland.

>

> Yes they have a protocol, sure. But it told them that LD would be

> deffinitly over in 30 days on abx?!

>

> But we are so happy that Nic's familly-doctor doesn't follow this

> protocal anymore. She only listen to what we tell her about good

> treatment. So maybe she will become a LLMD even when she is only a

> first line doctor. I also have the address from dr. Meer in

> Switzerland (New ILADS Guidelines) and that is I supposse the

nearest

> LLMD. So when she needs help or advice, she can ask this doctor.

>

> Yes, Holland is beautiful, but not for Lymies,

>

> Greetings Nic & Ingeborg

[Guest guest]

Connie

Can you enlighten us on what vits/minerals you did to help rebuild your system?

Did you do it while on abx?

Re: [ ] Success Stories

<<<<<<For now I think success stories from other Lymies will help him to fight

this disease and gave him his faith for a better future back.

And I think he wouldn't be the only one.>>>>>>>

Even though it seems as if you will never return to a normal way of life.

..........please believe you will. I've been there so I know what Nic is

going through. I thought I would lose my job and become a vegetable for

life.

Fortunately, after a lot of trial and error with Drs. and meds, I found a LLMD

that through several meds, was able to help me kill off those ugly

spirochetes.

I then followed a protocol consisting of various vitamins and minerals to help

rebuild my spirocheteal and abx destroyed body. Remember it takes a long time

on abx to destroy the buggers, and it takes awhile to rebuild your immune

system

after years of treatment.

Just remember there are people that have gotten better.......it is definitely

within your grasps......it just isn't going to happen in a short time frame.

Unfortunately, most people who get better leave this group, I am one of those

people....so you don't get to talk to a lot of people who are cured.

I pop in once in a blue moon, just to see if I can offer any hope.

So Nic.......hang in there........there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

I was terribly ill.........and yes, I did survive lyme..you will too.

ConnieKnwnj

When our bodies & minds are out of balance.......

.......we suffer!