Re: Re: Doctor list ..Spunky

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ok, now two good sources that even if someone is "chief" of plastic surgery they can do and say stupid things. I see, so your looking for a surgeon also. I'm thinking I'm just going to have to travel to Dr. Kolb. Yikes.

From: Spunky7327@...Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:59:38 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Doctor list ..Penni

Hey ,

No I am talking about something different altogether.....my plastic surgeon who is supposedly "one of the best" caused me much grief. I ended up with 4 or 5 surgeries since getting them in and this is my second set of implants in 3 years. I had an infection in the beginning of the first implants and he cut me open and cleaned me out and re put the implant back in......almost 2 years later I ended up with a never ending infection for 3 months before I finally went in. He took them out. Then I had them replaced and I had to pay like I was getting implants for the first time...........grrrrr He told my husband and I that maybe the infection came from his mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!What kind of crap was that....maybe the infection came from him re putting in the first implant after the first infection!!!! Either way my chest looks horrible now. The implant looks like a double boob on the side where I had the infections and I will not go back to him. In fact, they never reset for me to come into an appointment after the first or second appointment after surgery and then is not normal....I was just a problem he could not fix and he said he has never had this problem before............WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!JUST ME!!!!!!!!! sorry I am rambling and I am at work..... 24 kids sitting in my room after testing waiting for everyone else in the school to finish!!!

Either way I was asking if anyone knew a good surgeon here in South Florida and I thought they gave me the name Pamala Rosen.

Re: Doctor list ..Penni

Ok is Penni still here? Penni!!! Penni!! I just searched old posts and found this bad info on Dr. Leighton, the one I had a consult with today. I have a feeling he has learned some things from the past, seriously. It was like he knew how I felt about not wanting to hear implants don't cause sickness, and was on the same page with me, empathetic and supportive. It is like he "accepted" it since 2008, and changed his schmeal. Hopefully he learned some things through his recorded "depression".. maybe this is why he got into volunteering? I've done that and grew through my depression that way,,, unless there are still negative experiences with him!

> Tricia,

> > I have STRONG objections to Dr. Leighton's name being on this list. He was my doctor for 17 years. Never once would he admit that my health problems, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and many others were implant related. In fact he mocked in front of my face and my husbands face that women that are explanted feel so much better especially if they do coffee enemas. I had my double lumen implants replaced by him in 2003. He also put in my original pair after my breast cancer surgery in 1989. In 2003 the implants that he put in were saline because he told us their was no silicone in them. I started having intense left breast contractures in December of 2004. I went to see him and he told me I would just have to live with the pain and gave me two straight jacket type tte binder bras. Last November I went in to see his assistant because I needed some new binder straps. Dr. Leighton hadn't been in the office since August because he had some sort of

> depression and couldn't work any longer and he was letting his office staff go. She also told me that he wouldn't go to a doctor for help with his depression. A few days later I received in the mail some notes from his office. I just quickly glanced over them as they were just progress reports. I just this past week pulled them out again to get the date of my last surgery. Low and behold although I didn't see them before the operating room notes were in their. He NEVER mentioned to me or my husband after the surgery and other visits that I had a gel leak.

> > I'm not the type of person to cut down someone else but I fully and completely trusted this doctor. He knew and could see how I have gotten sicker and sicker over the years and yet he never said anything!!!!

> > My understanding is that he came back to work in January. I haven't seen him or talked to him.

> But I would not in any way shape or form recommend him to anyone. His workmanship is the best in Arizona but that is were it ends. He had plenty of chances to tell me I had a leak. The only thing he told my husband and me was that he didn't see any cancer. Period!!! He also made fun of me for crying because I was in so much pain the next day after surgery. His response was that I was depressed and that that was my problem and I had to deal with it.

> He has a very fancy elegant office with large flat screened TV's in each exam room. He wears at least several thousand dollars suits on his days to see patients. He is very short and comes across as he can do anything and everything is a piece of cake.

> Remember I have been very sick. Hundreds of thousands of dollars we have spend since 1996 on my illness. He knew this and yet he NEVER told me I had a gel leak.

> > If I had control of this list I would take his name off immediately!!!

> > Penni

> Re: Does the pain go away ?

> > > Unfortunately, I did not see any for the state of Virginia. I'm sending you the whole list so you can look it over...you will have to travel, but hopefully you have family that can help in another state. Most of us have had to travel. You're only other option would be to start calling around and talking to each plastic surgeon in your area, making sure they know how to do a proper explant. It's a hard search sometimes.

> Patty

> > UNITED STATES

> > ALABAMA

> > DR. WILLIAM O. THOMAS, > 5600 Girby Rd. > Mobile, AL 36693 > (334) 660-5763

> "He flatly states that knowing what he does today, he would NOT put

> silicone implants in." Contact Toni Risch: aca@...

> > > ARIZONA

> > DR. KARL HIATT, plastic surgeon, > 500 W. l0th Place, suite 124, > Mesa, AZ > 1-602-644-8043 > http://www.drhiatt.com/breast_en.html

> Has done more explantations than any other doctor in the state of

> Arizona. However, he does not use drains, but will do a total capsulectomy. He will also not admit

> that breast implants cause disease. Some women have reported negative experiences with his office. Edna: the support group leader in AZ: ETRAWICK@... Patty explanted by him: fdp3@... > > DR. WILLIAM LEIGHTON, > 10210 N. 92nd St., Suite 200, > sdale, AZ. > 1-480-314-2008

> New to our list; be certain to get in writing from him he will remove

> your implants "en bloc" and do a total capsulectomy, if at all possible.

> Please report any experiences, good or bad, with him.

> > > > ---------------------------------

> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice.

>

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When someone has a title, it only means politically/monetarily they

have a title......it doesnt mean they are an expert. . . and even if they had the title, expert, it is only as good as them honoring their Oath, which many of them dont.. nowadays, many of them are in it for the money, and not for helping people

sad but true....

When the power of love

overcomes the love of power

the world will know peace.

~ Jimi Hendrix

Re: Doctor list ..Penni

Ok is Penni still here? Penni!!! Penni!! I just searched old posts and found this bad info on Dr. Leighton, the one I had a consult with today. I have a feeling he has learned some things from the past, seriously. It was like he knew how I felt about not wanting to hear implants don't cause sickness, and was on the same page with me, empathetic and supportive. It is like he "accepted" it since 2008, and changed his schmeal. Hopefully he learned some things through his recorded "depression".. maybe this is why he got into volunteering? I've done that and grew through my depression that way,,, unless there are still negative experiences with him!

> Tricia,

> > I have STRONG objections to Dr. Leighton's name being on this list. He was my doctor for 17 years. Never once would he admit that my health problems, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and many others were implant related. In fact he mocked in front of my face and my husbands face that women that are explanted feel so much better especially if they do coffee enemas. I had my double lumen implants replaced by him in 2003. He also put in my original pair after my breast cancer surgery in 1989. In 2003 the implants that he put in were saline because he told us their was no silicone in them. I started having intense left breast contractures in December of 2004. I went to see him and he told me I would just have to live with the pain and gave me two straight jacket type tte binder bras. Last November I went in to see his assistant because I needed some new binder straps. Dr. Leighton hadn't been in the office since August because he had some sort of

> depression and couldn't work any longer and he was letting his office staff go. She also told me that he wouldn't go to a doctor for help with his depression. A few days later I received in the mail some notes from his office. I just quickly glanced over them as they were just progress reports. I just this past week pulled them out again to get the date of my last surgery. Low and behold although I didn't see them before the operating room notes were in their. He NEVER mentioned to me or my husband after the surgery and other visits that I had a gel leak.

> > I'm not the type of person to cut down someone else but I fully and completely trusted this doctor. He knew and could see how I have gotten sicker and sicker over the years and yet he never said anything!!!!

> > My understanding is that he came back to work in January. I haven't seen him or talked to him.

> But I would not in any way shape or form recommend him to anyone. His workmanship is the best in Arizona but that is were it ends. He had plenty of chances to tell me I had a leak. The only thing he told my husband and me was that he didn't see any cancer. Period!!! He also made fun of me for crying because I was in so much pain the next day after surgery. His response was that I was depressed and that that was my problem and I had to deal with it.

> He has a very fancy elegant office with large flat screened TV's in each exam room. He wears at least several thousand dollars suits on his days to see patients. He is very short and comes across as he can do anything and everything is a piece of cake.

> Remember I have been very sick. Hundreds of thousands of dollars we have spend since 1996 on my illness. He knew this and yet he NEVER told me I had a gel leak.

> > If I had control of this list I would take his name off immediately!!!

> > Penni

> Re: Does the pain go away ?

> > > Unfortunately, I did not see any for the state of Virginia. I'm sending you the whole list so you can look it over...you will have to travel, but hopefully you have family that can help in another state. Most of us have had to travel. You're only other option would be to start calling around and talking to each plastic surgeon in your area, making sure they know how to do a proper explant. It's a hard search sometimes.

> Patty

> > UNITED STATES

> > ALABAMA

> > DR. WILLIAM O. THOMAS, > 5600 Girby Rd. > Mobile, AL 36693 > (334) 660-5763

> "He flatly states that knowing what he does today, he would NOT put

> silicone implants in." Contact Toni Risch: aca@...

> > > ARIZONA

> > DR. KARL HIATT, plastic surgeon, > 500 W. l0th Place, suite 124, > Mesa, AZ > 1-602-644-8043 > http://www.drhiatt.com/breast_en.html

> Has done more explantations than any other doctor in the state of

> Arizona. However, he does not use drains, but will do a total capsulectomy. He will also not admit

> that breast implants cause disease. Some women have reported negative experiences with his office. Edna: the support group leader in AZ: ETRAWICK@... Patty explanted by him: fdp3@... > > DR. WILLIAM LEIGHTON, > 10210 N. 92nd St., Suite 200, > sdale, AZ. > 1-480-314-2008

> New to our list; be certain to get in writing from him he will remove

> your implants "en bloc" and do a total capsulectomy, if at all possible.

> Please report any experiences, good or bad, with him.

> > > > ---------------------------------

> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice.

>

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I can only say that this definitely is the truth from my experiences! Not only with doctors!!!!!

Re: Doctor list ..Penni

Ok is Penni still here? Penni!!! Penni!! I just searched old posts and found this bad info on Dr. Leighton, the one I had a consult with today. I have a feeling he has learned some things from the past, seriously. It was like he knew how I felt about not wanting to hear implants don't cause sickness, and was on the same page with me, empathetic and supportive. It is like he "accepted" it since 2008, and changed his schmeal. Hopefully he learned some things through his recorded "depression".. maybe this is why he got into volunteering? I've done that and grew through my depression that way,,, unless there are still negative experiences with him!

> Tricia,

> > I have STRONG objections to Dr. Leighton's name being on this list. He was my doctor for 17 years. Never once would he admit that my health problems, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and many others were implant related. In fact he mocked in front of my face and my husbands face that women that are explanted feel so much better especially if they do coffee enemas. I had my double lumen implants replaced by him in 2003. He also put in my original pair after my breast cancer surgery in 1989. In 2003 the implants that he put in were saline because he told us their was no silicone in them. I started having intense left breast contractures in December of 2004. I went to see him and he told me I would just have to live with the pain and gave me two straight jacket type tte binder bras. Last November I went in to see his assistant because I needed some new binder straps. Dr. Leighton hadn't been in the office since August because he had some sort of

> depression and couldn't work any longer and he was letting his office staff go. She also told me that he wouldn't go to a doctor for help with his depression. A few days later I received in the mail some notes from his office. I just quickly glanced over them as they were just progress reports. I just this past week pulled them out again to get the date of my last surgery. Low and behold although I didn't see them before the operating room notes were in their. He NEVER mentioned to me or my husband after the surgery and other visits that I had a gel leak.

> > I'm not the type of person to cut down someone else but I fully and completely trusted this doctor. He knew and could see how I have gotten sicker and sicker over the years and yet he never said anything!!!!

> > My understanding is that he came back to work in January. I haven't seen him or talked to him.

> But I would not in any way shape or form recommend him to anyone. His workmanship is the best in Arizona but that is were it ends. He had plenty of chances to tell me I had a leak. The only thing he told my husband and me was that he didn't see any cancer. Period!!! He also made fun of me for crying because I was in so much pain the next day after surgery. His response was that I was depressed and that that was my problem and I had to deal with it.

> He has a very fancy elegant office with large flat screened TV's in each exam room. He wears at least several thousand dollars suits on his days to see patients. He is very short and comes across as he can do anything and everything is a piece of cake.

> Remember I have been very sick. Hundreds of thousands of dollars we have spend since 1996 on my illness. He knew this and yet he NEVER told me I had a gel leak.

> > If I had control of this list I would take his name off immediately!!!

> > Penni

> Re: Does the pain go away ?

> > > Unfortunately, I did not see any for the state of Virginia. I'm sending you the whole list so you can look it over...you will have to travel, but hopefully you have family that can help in another state. Most of us have had to travel. You're only other option would be to start calling around and talking to each plastic surgeon in your area, making sure they know how to do a proper explant. It's a hard search sometimes.

> Patty

> > UNITED STATES

> > ALABAMA

> > DR. WILLIAM O. THOMAS, > 5600 Girby Rd. > Mobile, AL 36693 > (334) 660-5763

> "He flatly states that knowing what he does today, he would NOT put

> silicone implants in." Contact Toni Risch: aca@...

> > > ARIZONA

> > DR. KARL HIATT, plastic surgeon, > 500 W. l0th Place, suite 124, > Mesa, AZ > 1-602-644-8043 > http://www.drhiatt.com/breast_en.html

> Has done more explantations than any other doctor in the state of

> Arizona. However, he does not use drains, but will do a total capsulectomy. He will also not admit

> that breast implants cause disease. Some women have reported negative experiences with his office. Edna: the support group leader in AZ: ETRAWICK@... Patty explanted by him: fdp3@... > > DR. WILLIAM LEIGHTON, > 10210 N. 92nd St., Suite 200, > sdale, AZ. > 1-480-314-2008

> New to our list; be certain to get in writing from him he will remove

> your implants "en bloc" and do a total capsulectomy, if at all possible.

> Please report any experiences, good or bad, with him.

> > > > ---------------------------------

> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice.

>

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Dede is right...chief of plastic surgery just means he/she is good in politics.

From: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...> Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 11:25:36 AMSubject: Re: Re: Doctor list ..Spunky

When someone has a title, it only means politically/monetarily they

have a title......it doesnt mean they are an expert. . . and even if they had the title, expert, it is only as good as them honoring their Oath, which many of them dont.. nowadays, many of them are in it for the money, and not for helping people

sad but true....

When the power of love

overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.

~ Jimi Hendrix

Re: Doctor list ..Penni

Ok is Penni still here? Penni!!! Penni!! I just searched old posts and found this bad info on Dr. Leighton, the one I had a consult with today. I have a feeling he has learned some things from the past, seriously. It was like he knew how I felt about not wanting to hear implants don't cause sickness, and was on the same page with me, empathetic and supportive. It is like he "accepted" it since 2008, and changed his schmeal. Hopefully he learned some things through his recorded "depression".. maybe this is why he got into volunteering? I've done that and grew through my depression that way,,, unless there are still negative experiences with him!

> Tricia,

> > I have STRONG objections to Dr. Leighton's name being on this list. He was my doctor for 17 years. Never once would he admit that my health problems, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and many others were implant related. In fact he mocked in front of my face and my husbands face that women that are explanted feel so much better especially if they do coffee enemas. I had my double lumen implants replaced by him in 2003. He also put in my original pair after my breast cancer surgery in 1989. In 2003 the implants that he put in were saline because he told us their was no silicone in them. I started having intense left breast contractures in December of 2004. I went to see him and he told me I would just have to live with the pain and gave me two straight jacket type tte binder bras. Last November I went in to see his assistant because I needed some new binder straps. Dr. Leighton hadn't been in the office since August because he had some sort of

> depression and couldn't work any longer and he was letting his office staff go. She also told me that he wouldn't go to a doctor for help with his depression. A few days later I received in the mail some notes from his office. I just quickly glanced over them as they were just progress reports. I just this past week pulled them out again to get the date of my last surgery. Low and behold although I didn't see them before the operating room notes were in their. He NEVER mentioned to me or my husband after the surgery and other visits that I had a gel leak.

> > I'm not the type of person to cut down someone else but I fully and completely trusted this doctor. He knew and could see how I have gotten sicker and sicker over the years and yet he never said anything!!!!

> > My understanding is that he came back to work in January. I haven't seen him or talked to him.

> But I would not in any way shape or form recommend him to anyone. His workmanship is the best in Arizona but that is were it ends. He had plenty of chances to tell me I had a leak. The only thing he told my husband and me was that he didn't see any cancer. Period!!! He also made fun of me for crying because I was in so much pain the next day after surgery. His response was that I was depressed and that that was my problem and I had to deal with it.

> He has a very fancy elegant office with large flat screened TV's in each exam room. He wears at least several thousand dollars suits on his days to see patients. He is very short and comes across as he can do anything and everything is a piece of cake.

> Remember I have been very sick. Hundreds of thousands of dollars we have spend since 1996 on my illness. He knew this and yet he NEVER told me I had a gel leak.

> > If I had control of this list I would take his name off immediately!!!

> > Penni

> Re: Does the pain go away ?

> > > Unfortunately, I did not see any for the state of Virginia. I'm sending you the whole list so you can look it over...you will have to travel, but hopefully you have family that can help in another state. Most of us have had to travel. You're only other option would be to start calling around and talking to each plastic surgeon in your area, making sure they know how to do a proper explant. It's a hard search sometimes.

> Patty

> > UNITED STATES

> > ALABAMA

> > DR. WILLIAM O. THOMAS, > 5600 Girby Rd. > Mobile, AL 36693 > (334) 660-5763

> "He flatly states that knowing what he does today, he would NOT put

> silicone implants in." Contact Toni Risch: aca@...

> > > ARIZONA

> > DR. KARL HIATT, plastic surgeon, > 500 W. l0th Place, suite 124, > Mesa, AZ > 1-602-644-8043 > http://www.drhiatt.com/breast_en.html

> Has done more explantations than any other doctor in the state of

> Arizona. However, he does not use drains, but will do a total capsulectomy. He will also not admit

> that breast implants cause disease. Some women have reported negative experiences with his office. Edna: the support group leader in AZ: ETRAWICK@... Patty explanted by him: fdp3@... > > DR. WILLIAM LEIGHTON, > 10210 N. 92nd St., Suite 200, > sdale, AZ. > 1-480-314-2008

> New to our list; be certain to get in writing from him he will remove

> your implants "en bloc" and do a total capsulectomy, if at all possible.

> Please report any experiences, good or bad, with him.

> > > > ---------------------------------

> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice.

>

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[Guest guest]

Girl, you got that right ! Me too !

When the power of love

overcomes the love of power

the world will know peace.

~ Jimi Hendrix

Re: Doctor list ..Penni

Ok is Penni still here? Penni!!! Penni!! I just searched old posts and found this bad info on Dr. Leighton, the one I had a consult with today. I have a feeling he has learned some things from the past, seriously. It was like he knew how I felt about not wanting to hear implants don't cause sickness, and was on the same page with me, empathetic and supportive. It is like he "accepted" it since 2008, and changed his schmeal. Hopefully he learned some things through his recorded "depression".. maybe this is why he got into volunteering? I've done that and grew through my depression that way,,, unless there are still negative experiences with him!

> Tricia,

> > I have STRONG objections to Dr. Leighton's name being on this list. He was my doctor for 17 years. Never once would he admit that my health problems, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and many others were implant related. In fact he mocked in front of my face and my husbands face that women that are explanted feel so much better especially if they do coffee enemas. I had my double lumen implants replaced by him in 2003. He also put in my original pair after my breast cancer surgery in 1989. In 2003 the implants that he put in were saline because he told us their was no silicone in them. I started having intense left breast contractures in December of 2004. I went to see him and he told me I would just have to live with the pain and gave me two straight jacket type tte binder bras. Last November I went in to see his assistant because I needed some new binder straps. Dr. Leighton hadn't been in the office since August because he had some sort of

> depression and couldn't work any longer and he was letting his office staff go. She also told me that he wouldn't go to a doctor for help with his depression. A few days later I received in the mail some notes from his office. I just quickly glanced over them as they were just progress reports. I just this past week pulled them out again to get the date of my last surgery. Low and behold although I didn't see them before the operating room notes were in their. He NEVER mentioned to me or my husband after the surgery and other visits that I had a gel leak.

> > I'm not the type of person to cut down someone else but I fully and completely trusted this doctor. He knew and could see how I have gotten sicker and sicker over the years and yet he never said anything!!!!

> > My understanding is that he came back to work in January. I haven't seen him or talked to him.

> But I would not in any way shape or form recommend him to anyone. His workmanship is the best in Arizona but that is were it ends. He had plenty of chances to tell me I had a leak. The only thing he told my husband and me was that he didn't see any cancer. Period!!! He also made fun of me for crying because I was in so much pain the next day after surgery. His response was that I was depressed and that that was my problem and I had to deal with it.

> He has a very fancy elegant office with large flat screened TV's in each exam room. He wears at least several thousand dollars suits on his days to see patients. He is very short and comes across as he can do anything and everything is a piece of cake.

> Remember I have been very sick. Hundreds of thousands of dollars we have spend since 1996 on my illness. He knew this and yet he NEVER told me I had a gel leak.

> > If I had control of this list I would take his name off immediately!!!

> > Penni

> Re: Does the pain go away ?

> > > Unfortunately, I did not see any for the state of Virginia. I'm sending you the whole list so you can look it over...you will have to travel, but hopefully you have family that can help in another state. Most of us have had to travel. You're only other option would be to start calling around and talking to each plastic surgeon in your area, making sure they know how to do a proper explant. It's a hard search sometimes.

> Patty

> > UNITED STATES

> > ALABAMA

> > DR. WILLIAM O. THOMAS, > 5600 Girby Rd. > Mobile, AL 36693 > (334) 660-5763

> "He flatly states that knowing what he does today, he would NOT put

> silicone implants in." Contact Toni Risch: aca@...

> > > ARIZONA

> > DR. KARL HIATT, plastic surgeon, > 500 W. l0th Place, suite 124, > Mesa, AZ > 1-602-644-8043 > http://www.drhiatt.com/breast_en.html

> Has done more explantations than any other doctor in the state of

> Arizona. However, he does not use drains, but will do a total capsulectomy. He will also not admit

> that breast implants cause disease. Some women have reported negative experiences with his office. Edna: the support group leader in AZ: ETRAWICK@... Patty explanted by him: fdp3@... > > DR. WILLIAM LEIGHTON, > 10210 N. 92nd St., Suite 200, > sdale, AZ. > 1-480-314-2008

> New to our list; be certain to get in writing from him he will remove

> your implants "en bloc" and do a total capsulectomy, if at all possible.

> Please report any experiences, good or bad, with him.

> > > > ---------------------------------

> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice.

>

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