Re: Re: My last diet

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In a message dated 9/19/2002 5:50:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,

watnext@... writes:

> I gave up my oatmeal for breakfast, and have been having a protein shake

> instead...just one a day regularly, occasionally 2. But, what happened was

> I lost my cravings for junk food, too.

See - I want to be one of these kinds of people! Adding two more shakes a

day has done nothing for my cravings; it just pisses me off that I don't have

as much room for the food I want to eat!!

Kate

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I suggest some of the people contributing to this list look for any of the

books by Geneen Roth. Roth was anorexic, and then, while in medical school,

put on 40 pounds in a matter of months. She realized that she was killing

herself.

She decided that part of her problem was dieting itself. She decided that

she would come up with a strategy for eating. She only ate when hungry. She

stopped when no longer hungry. She became very aware of how food made her

feel. She ate what she truly wanted, not what was " good " for her. She found

that junk food lost its mystique and she gradually developed what some people

would call a balanced diet.

I don't think a gastric bypass patient can do what she advocates exactly, nor

could a diabetic or someone with another serious medical problem. Still, I

learned a lot from her book.

I sometimes reread parts of her book. For example, part of me won't exercise

unless I can do a lot. I have to walk a couple of miles or none at all. She

helps me see that's pretty damn goofy, and walking a few blocks would be

better than nothing.

in St. Louis

(can you tell I'm an unemployed librarian?)

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Hi JJ,

I was an open RNY, too, 150 cm bypassed. I really don't think it matters how

much is bypassed, you're still malabsorbing protein, calcium, iron and a few

other things. I think I may have been getting enough protein from food, at

least for 3 years everything's been pretty much fine. But, who knows what

the future holds.

I gave up the oatmeal and picked up a shake to try to reduce my carb intake,

and was really amazed that I also lost my taste for snack foods, too. Now,

that's not to say that I don't have a yummy no sugar added ice cream treat

sometimes, but it was those pretzels and SF cookies sitting next to my

computer all day that really did me in. They're now gone, and I'm down 21

pounds, and taking in an extra 30 gms of " good " protein each day. Pretty

cool, huh? I just hope this keeps up. That junk food monster can be pretty

powerful.

Good luck,

in NJ

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In a message dated 9/19/2002 12:40:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jthensley2001@... writes:

> , I am very inspired in your story. How much have you been

> bypassed? I wonder if that will work for me I am 185 and want to be

> 160. I don't take protein because I am open rny and barely bypassed.

>

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JJ...

I had an " open " RNY, July 13th, 1979! Yes, 23 years has

passed now and can I can assure you, that if you have went

through an RNY, that you are able to and should be taking

protein supplements daily.

Your pouch and length of small intestinal by-pass will meet

or exceed the minimal amount established by Dr. E.

Mason, in his write-up for the procedure in 1981.

For you that may not know who Dr. E. Mason is, he is

the respected surgeon that did the research and has been the

source for RNY research and training that has been used for

bariatric surgery over the past 40 years. He was also the

founder of the ASBS (American Society for Bariatric

Surgeons) in 1985 and it's first President.

My surgeon, Dr. Moen of Moline, Illinois was a

Collarborator in Dr. Mason's research and

developement of today's RNY procedure, at the University of

Iowa.

If any person considering the option of having an RNY, and

the surgeon does NOT know who Dr. E. Mason is, I

highly recommend that you pick yourself up and walk out of

the surgeon's office. There is a 2 1/3 day training session

for any surgeon that wants to work in the bariatric field.

Dr. E. Mason, is mentioned so many times and much of

the matrial that the training sessions use, has his name and

literature included, that his name is " clearly etched " into

each surgeon's mind, just as clear as the procedure is

taught them.

///Bob

Re: My last diet

> , I am very inspired in your story. How much have

you been

> bypassed? I wonder if that will work for me I am 185 and

want to be

> 160. I don't take protein because I am open rny and

barely bypassed.

>

> Thanks

>

> JJ in WA

>

>

>

>

>

> > Helene, if you remember my post a few weeks ago, titled

" I'm losing

> again, "

> > it took me 4 years of having the benefits of protein

pounded into

> my head

> > before I decided to give it a try on a regular basis. I

gave up my

> oatmeal

> > for breakfast, and have been having a protein shake

instead...just

> one a day

> > regularly, occasionally 2. But, what happened was I

lost my

> cravings for

> > junk food, too. After several months, I am now down

another 21

> pounds, and

> > that was after being stuck at 185 for a year and a half!

> >

> > Yes, it is amazing how long it takes some of us to

learn! )

> >

> > Good luck,

> > in NJ

> > open RNY 8/99

> > SLD, stomach transection 8/00

> > 306/164/whatever

> > **********************************************

> > In a message dated 9/19/2002 8:00:34 AM Eastern Daylight

Time,

> > hwd.hwd@v... writes:

> >

> > > So, I am humbled, and back to my original belief, that

the only

> way for

> > > me to stay sane is to maintain a balanced, healthy

diet - yes, I

> will

> > > low carb it, and keep away from sugar, but I will not

cut any one

> food

> > > out of my diet totally, and will not set up any hard

and fast

> rules

> > > [that I will then immediately break and feel like a

failure...].I

> will

> > > do what I know works (protein, water, exercise, etc)

and I know I

> can

> > > lose the 10 pounds - maybe not in two weeks, but

certainly in a

> few

> > > months.

> > >

> > > Isn't it amazing how long it takes some of us to

learn?

> >

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 9/19/02 8:44:39 AM Central Daylight Time,

kateseidel@... writes:

<<

See - I want to be one of these kinds of people! Adding two more shakes a

day has done nothing for my cravings; it just pisses me off that I don't

have

as much room for the food I want to eat!!

>>

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Oh, yeah! I know that one. And then I go around obsessing all day bcuz I

WANT what I want when I want it.............but I'm really not HUNGRY enuf

and don't have room for it. GGGGRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr.

Carol A

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In a message dated 9/19/02 8:57:13 AM Central Daylight Time, WLS@...

writes:

<< I suggest some of the people contributing to this list look for any of the

books by Geneen Roth. >>

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A lot of post-ops have been recommending " 7 Secrets of Slim People " as a very

good book to live by. I finally went out and got it. And said to myself,

" this is just Geneen Roth recycled. " I guess a lot of people here are

probably too young to remember Geneen Roth, but she had all those ideas long

b4 these 2 new authors!

Regards,

Carol A

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Geneen Roth talks theory . . .7 secrets gives direction and work sheets . .

..If you work it, it works. I could relate to Geneen's stuff but felt stuck

with it. Vikki and are not new . . .just a different voice, which for

me worked. . . . amd natural eating is natural eating no matter who is

advocating it. Geenen Roth doesn't hold a patent on that.

) Vicki

In a message dated 9/19/2002 3:15:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,

tuesdynite@... writes:

> A lot of post-ops have been recommending " 7 Secrets of Slim People " as a

> very

> good book to live by. I finally went out and got it. And said to myself,

> " this is just Geneen Roth recycled. " I guess a lot of people here are

> probably too young to remember Geneen Roth, but she had all those ideas

> long

> b4 these 2 new authors!

>

> Regards,

> Carol A

>