Re: My last diet

September 19, 2002

Helene, if you remember my post a few weeks ago, titled " I'm losing again, "

it took me 4 years of having the benefits of protein pounded into my head

before I decided to give it a try on a regular basis. I gave up my oatmeal

for breakfast, and have been having a protein shake instead...just one a day

regularly, occasionally 2. But, what happened was I lost my cravings for

junk food, too. After several months, I am now down another 21 pounds, and

that was after being stuck at 185 for a year and a half!

Yes, it is amazing how long it takes some of us to learn! )

Good luck,

in NJ

open RNY 8/99

SLD, stomach transection 8/00

306/164/whatever

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In a message dated 9/19/2002 8:00:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

hwd.hwd@... writes:

> So, I am humbled, and back to my original belief, that the only way for

> me to stay sane is to maintain a balanced, healthy diet - yes, I will

> low carb it, and keep away from sugar, but I will not cut any one food

> out of my diet totally, and will not set up any hard and fast rules

> [that I will then immediately break and feel like a failure...].I will

> do what I know works (protein, water, exercise, etc) and I know I can

> lose the 10 pounds - maybe not in two weeks, but certainly in a few

> months.

>

> Isn't it amazing how long it takes some of us to learn?

September 19, 2002

, I am very inspired in your story. How much have you been

bypassed? I wonder if that will work for me I am 185 and want to be

160. I don't take protein because I am open rny and barely bypassed.

Thanks

JJ in WA

> Helene, if you remember my post a few weeks ago, titled " I'm losing

again, "

> it took me 4 years of having the benefits of protein pounded into

my head

> before I decided to give it a try on a regular basis. I gave up my

oatmeal

> for breakfast, and have been having a protein shake instead...just

one a day

> regularly, occasionally 2. But, what happened was I lost my

cravings for

> junk food, too. After several months, I am now down another 21

pounds, and

> that was after being stuck at 185 for a year and a half!

>

> Yes, it is amazing how long it takes some of us to learn! )

>

> Good luck,

> in NJ

> open RNY 8/99

> SLD, stomach transection 8/00

> 306/164/whatever

> **********************************************

> In a message dated 9/19/2002 8:00:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> hwd.hwd@v... writes:

>

> > So, I am humbled, and back to my original belief, that the only

way for

> > me to stay sane is to maintain a balanced, healthy diet - yes, I

will

> > low carb it, and keep away from sugar, but I will not cut any one

food

> > out of my diet totally, and will not set up any hard and fast

rules

> > [that I will then immediately break and feel like a failure...].I

will

> > do what I know works (protein, water, exercise, etc) and I know I

can

> > lose the 10 pounds - maybe not in two weeks, but certainly in a

few

> > months.

> >

> > Isn't it amazing how long it takes some of us to learn?

>

September 19, 2002

Helene..

We have all been on the YO-YO diet. I have been able to eat

anything that I have wanted.

I just eat VERY VERY VERY SLOWLY!

I would like to interject a " revelation " that I have had

during the past 23 years as a POST RNY patient. One of the

main reasons that we got into the position of needing

surgery to lose weight, was because of the bombardment and

growth of the fast food empire.

The work environment and social pace has increased, there

is more demands on each of us, than ever before in the

history of our country. We are used to eating on the run,

not stopping to realize that what we have been doing is

eating just for the sake of eating, and not really taking

the time to enjoy our meal(s) or snack(s).

Then we have elected to have and go through surgery, to help

us lose this excess weight. Guess what, we are still running

around like so many ants, trying to get several different

things done at one time.

If you want to see real weight loss and enjoy, the new you

and have comfort in realizing that you will never be

overweight again, ever, stop and relax when you eat. Take

your time, savour each bite. I still take 45 minutes to an

hour to eat my daily breakfast of 2 eggs and 2 slices of

toast, sometimes I will not be able to able to eat all of

it, but I am lucky I have a St. Bernard puppy (18 months

old) his name is Duke and willing eats anything that I offer

him.

You should NOT diet...in the sense of counting calories, or

such. You will find however that your portion of anything

should NOT exceed the diameter of a fried egg (which would

amount to about 3oz.).

I still have days, that are, what I call, non-eating days. I

still eat, but I just take even more time to eat and NEVER

force your stomach pouch to hold more than is comfortable.

The pouch is the most elastistic of part of your stomach and

statistics show that 80% of RNY patients have a tendancy to

overeat and streatch their pouch and start gaining their

weight back, within the first 5- 7 years! So be aware.....

Take each day as it comes and start enjoying your new

life..do not expect to reach a specific weight during a

specific time frame (we are each different and each body has

it's own inherited metabolism for it's most efficient

functioning), learn to accept yourself as you are and you

will soon realize that the " special inner you " will appear

and life becomes what you have so eagerly, only once dreamed

it could be.

///Bob

My last diet

> I've posted here that I'm struggling with periods of

out-of-control

> eating and have regained 10 pounds this summer. I've

found some of my

> pants from last year too tight, which makes me crazy. So

I joined

> another OSSG list, for post-ops who were having trouble.

Many on the

> list were doing the Atkins induction diet and losing

quickly.

>

> Even though I promised myself after my surgery that I

would not diet

> again, because I firmly believe that over the years I had

dieted myself

> up to 350 pounds by yo-yoing and playing mind games, I

decided to give

> the Atkins a try. I wanted to lose 10 pounds in two

weeks.... BIG

> MISTAKE!! First, I decided on Labor Day to begin the diet

the day after

> the Jewish holidays (so I wouldn't be limited at family

dinners). That

> gave me two weeks to get ready. But what happened was so

predictable -

> and classic. Knowing that I was going to be starting a

diet, I started

> overeating in a big way, telling myself it didn't matter,

because I was

> soon going to diet it off. Then, the day before I was to

start, I went

> out and bought all this horrible food - bacon, cream,

butter - things

> that are OK on the Atkins diet, and that seemed

particularly sinful.

>

> I woke up on day one to a huge breakfast of bacon, eggs,

coffee with

> cream. For lunch I went to Mcs for a double quarter

pounded -

> with cheese! By mid afternoon, I was sick to my stomach.

The thought

> of the steak I had planned for dinner turned my stomach.

All I could

> think about was wanting a yogurt, or salad, or

vegetables - everything

> the Atkins diet limits.

>

> So, after 10 hours on the diet, I gave it up (do I get an

award for the

> shortest diet ever?). But it was a real learning

experience for me. It

> was kind of a condensed lesson in why diets mess up our

heads, set us up

> for overeating, bingeing, cravings, etc. Why my whole

life I have been

> overeating, just until I started the next diet.

>

> So, I am humbled, and back to my original belief, that the

only way for

> me to stay sane is to maintain a balanced, healthy diet -

yes, I will

> low carb it, and keep away from sugar, but I will not cut

any one food

> out of my diet totally, and will not set up any hard and

fast rules

> [that I will then immediately break and feel like a

failure...].I will

> do what I know works (protein, water, exercise, etc) and I

know I can

> lose the 10 pounds - maybe not in two weeks, but certainly

in a few

> months.

>

> Isn't it amazing how long it takes some of us to learn?

>

> Helene

> RNY 12/22/99

> 350/170

>

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September 19, 2002

Bob,

I could not have said it better! There is one other point for me. I was

always taught not to let food go to waste growing up. So the end result for

me was to eat everything no matter what. It was printed in my brain. Even 5

or 6 years after having had the surgery I actually felt guilty for not

finishing (mind you my portions are much smaller than pre-surgery) what was

on my plate. And like you Bob, my lab enjoyed the fact she got what-ever I

didn't eat. She knew by my body language when I was done and sat up and

waited...lol.

It really does take starting over with a entirely different outlook to go

with the new body. It's been long enough for me to see that I not only have

a smaller body, but I am different! I agree, do not diet. Eat slowly, enjoy

your meals and relax. Be aware but not to the point that it controls you as

it controled us all prior to our surgeries.

Dawn

RNY 5/17/93

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> Helene..

>

> We have all been on the YO-YO diet. I have been able to eat

> anything that I have wanted.

>

> I just eat VERY VERY VERY SLOWLY!

>

> I would like to interject a " revelation " that I have had

> during the past 23 years as a POST RNY patient. One of the

> main reasons that we got into the position of needing

> surgery to lose weight, was because of the bombardment and

> growth of the fast food empire.

>

> The work environment and social pace has increased, there

> is more demands on each of us, than ever before in the

> history of our country. We are used to eating on the run,

> not stopping to realize that what we have been doing is

> eating just for the sake of eating, and not really taking

> the time to enjoy our meal(s) or snack(s).

>

> Then we have elected to have and go through surgery, to help

> us lose this excess weight. Guess what, we are still running

> around like so many ants, trying to get several different

> things done at one time.

>

> If you want to see real weight loss and enjoy, the new you

> and have comfort in realizing that you will never be

> overweight again, ever, stop and relax when you eat. Take

> your time, savour each bite. I still take 45 minutes to an

> hour to eat my daily breakfast of 2 eggs and 2 slices of

> toast, sometimes I will not be able to able to eat all of

> it, but I am lucky I have a St. Bernard puppy (18 months

> old) his name is Duke and willing eats anything that I offer

> him.

>

> You should NOT diet...in the sense of counting calories, or

> such. You will find however that your portion of anything

> should NOT exceed the diameter of a fried egg (which would

> amount to about 3oz.).

>

> I still have days, that are, what I call, non-eating days. I

> still eat, but I just take even more time to eat and NEVER

> force your stomach pouch to hold more than is comfortable.

> The pouch is the most elastistic of part of your stomach and

> statistics show that 80% of RNY patients have a tendancy to

> overeat and streatch their pouch and start gaining their

> weight back, within the first 5- 7 years! So be aware.....

>

> Take each day as it comes and start enjoying your new

> life..do not expect to reach a specific weight during a

> specific time frame (we are each different and each body has

> it's own inherited metabolism for it's most efficient

> functioning), learn to accept yourself as you are and you

> will soon realize that the " special inner you " will appear

> and life becomes what you have so eagerly, only once dreamed

> it could be.

>

> ///Bob

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September 19, 2002

Its not about food and never was . . .Its about the compulsion to put food in

our mouths when our bodies don't need it. WHY? Why do we do it? Even if

with ZERO metabolism that only needs minimal calotries to survive, WHY do we

push it? Why do we eat when our body isn't asking for food? Until we answer

this question for ourselves as an individual, we will struggle with our

weight. . . .if you are wtruggleing, it is because weight is the result of

the misuse of food . . . a symptom, not the real problem. Eating should be

biologocal in function . . . just like elimination. When you need to go, you

need to go. When you need to eat, you need to eat. If we listen to our

bodies, they tell us what to do and when. Our whole society is just food

obsessed .. . .

I'm over it already after 3.5 + years post op and working on it . . .. still.

) Vicki

n a message dated 9/19/2002 5:01:20 AM Pacific Standard Time,

hwd.hwd@... writes:

> I have talked about this exact thing in therapy many times. The therapist

> always points out that even though I am saying my eating is out of control,

> it is actually very much being controlled by me - no one else is picking up

> the fork and sticking it in my mouth. While I understand he is correct, it

> is still hard to accept, and I can't seem to get past the feeling that I am

> indeed out of control......

>

> Helene

> RNY 12/22/99

> 350/170

>

September 19, 2002