Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Wow is right teresa. I watched a couple of the movie one. It turns my stomach seeing some of the corruption dramatized. What a mess they've created to insert these poisons into thousands of women. I shudder at the thought. I'm So happy you didn't do it! Maybe another huge lawsuit is coming soon again. Thnx for the clips. And yes, I forgot about the inserts @ joannes. I used them yrs ago for my bathing suits too. Good idea Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Great clips on YouTube Have any of you seen this movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120396/plotsummary It's available to view in 10 parts on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aHoicx2PUM I haven't watched it all, but WOW… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbLvPXacvg & feature=related Kathleen Anneken and Sybil Goldrich (breast cancer survivor) have been spokespersons for women with implant troubles. Kathleen was on Sally Raphael. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIeFDEUb9Wo & playnext=1 & list=PL41C20B73CC5818CC The excellent documentary, Absolutely Safe, is available in parts on YouTube too. I can't find the order, but here's a start. Kaylan Vialpando tells her saline implant and explant saga during 4 YouTube clips. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qPG9AmAJx4 & feature=mfu_in_order & list=UL Hugs of support, M. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 I am stunned and saddened to think that the insurance companies and the implant manufacturers are slinking out of their responsibilities when people are in pain. It does sound like lawsuits have been somewhat effective for making medical changes, but OMG how exhausting would that process be? Would need to find a lawyer to do it on a percentage basis... We need to shout about it to the senators and congressmen/women, the manufacturers, the FDA, the media, and the insurance companies...if the letters are sent, they have to remain on file. Over the months and years, maybe they will have an impact. Here's a thought that hit me in the wee hours of the morning...when folks willingly put cigarette smoke in their chests for many years and then some of those folks end up in pain with lung issues, the insurance pays for their care! Hugs of support, M. > > Wow is right teresa. I watched a couple of the movie one. It turns my stomach seeing some of the corruption dramatized. What a mess they've created to insert these poisons into thousands of women. I shudder at the thought. I'm So happy you didn't do it! Maybe another huge lawsuit is coming soon again. Thnx for the clips. And yes, I forgot about the inserts @ joannes. I used them yrs ago for my bathing suits too. Good idea > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > Great clips on YouTube > > Have any of you seen this movie? > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120396/plotsummary > > It's available to view in 10 parts on YouTube. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aHoicx2PUM > > I haven't watched it all, but WOW… > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbLvPXacvg & feature=related > > Kathleen Anneken and Sybil Goldrich (breast cancer survivor) have been spokespersons for women with implant troubles. Kathleen was on Sally Raphael. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIeFDEUb9Wo & playnext=1 & list=PL41C20B73CC5818CC > > The excellent documentary, Absolutely Safe, is available in parts on YouTube too. I can't find the order, but here's a start. > > > Kaylan Vialpando tells her saline implant and explant saga during 4 YouTube clips. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qPG9AmAJx4 & feature=mfu_in_order & list=UL > > > Hugs of support, > M. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 As far as lawsuits.....tort reform along with the fact they keep saying implants are safe, as well as signing your life away before surgery keeps all that at bay for the companies and doctors...... Im not sure there are any lawsuits anymore. I know many of the big lawsuits back in the day have been stuck in the courts of appeals....and many never got a penny. The ones that did had to sign a gag order to not talk about it at all in order to get some money...and 30-50 % went to the attorney then they took out costs they said they incurred. Finally, the person got alittle money which for most, it didnt even cover explant, muchless any additional surgeries, or doctor visits........ The whole thing is a mess, and not right........ You do get a huge education in the process tho....... a new respect for loving yourself as God made you.... When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Great clips on YouTube Have any of you seen this movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120396/plotsummary It's available to view in 10 parts on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aHoicx2PUM I haven't watched it all, but WOW… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbLvPXacvg & feature=related Kathleen Anneken and Sybil Goldrich (breast cancer survivor) have been spokespersons for women with implant troubles. Kathleen was on Sally Raphael. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIeFDEUb9Wo & playnext=1 & list=PL41C20B73CC5818CC The excellent documentary, Absolutely Safe, is available in parts on YouTube too. I can't find the order, but here's a start. Kaylan Vialpando tells her saline implant and explant saga during 4 YouTube clips. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qPG9AmAJx4 & feature=mfu_in_order & list=UL Hugs of support, M. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Great job Barbara! I'm so glad to hear you are still working diligently on this...you're a hero. Patty > > > > > > Wow is right teresa. I watched a couple of the movie one. It turns my stomach seeing some of the corruption dramatized. What a mess they've created to insert these poisons into thousands of women. I shudder at the thought. I'm So happy you didn't do it! Maybe another huge lawsuit is coming soon again. Thnx for the clips. And yes, I forgot about the inserts @ joannes. I used them yrs ago for my bathing suits too. Good idea > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > > > > > Great clips on YouTube > > > > > > Have any of you seen this movie? > > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120396/plotsummary > > > > > > It's available to view in 10 parts on YouTube. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aHoicx2PUM > > > > > > I haven't watched it all, but WOW… > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbLvPXacvg & feature=related > > > > > > Kathleen Anneken and Sybil Goldrich (breast cancer survivor) have been spokespersons for women with implant troubles. Kathleen was on Sally Raphael. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIeFDEUb9Wo & playnext=1 & list=PL41C20B73CC5818CC > > > > > > The excellent documentary, Absolutely Safe, is available in parts on YouTube too. I can't find the order, but here's a start. > > > > > > > > > Kaylan Vialpando tells her saline implant and explant saga during 4 YouTube clips. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qPG9AmAJx4 & feature=mfu_in_order & list=UL > > > > > > > > > Hugs of support, > > > M. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Count me in. HUGS, From: Sharon Schwengler <share85379@...> Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:48:37 PMSubject: Re: Re: Great clips on YouTube I am serious about making a difference. I got my implants Oct 2005. I have been sick for 1.5 yrs and just now have associated it with my implants. I am speaking with Dr. Kolb and her assitants is trying to get my insurance to cover it, but I now have to fly all the way to Atlanta, get examined by her in order to have them removed. I am mad as hell to say the least about all of this, and someone needs to be accountable. I can't drink wine, eat chocolate, eat cheese, eat bread, eat yogurt, eat sugar, eat vinegar, etc.....I can only have lean chix, turkey, fish and vegetables, if i deviate my food gets stuck in my small intestine and won't go down...I have been daignosed with Candida in my blood and intestines. My hair is coming out, I hurt every morning and gets better as day progresses, blurred vision, hypothyroid, extremely constipated,adrenal fatigue,dizziness, get sick very easily , yeast infections, vaginally and underbreast and sinusitis.....I use to run marathons, and hike mountains...now I can't get my heart rate up or else I exhasut myself...I wished to God I had never gotten these....I take supplements to try and kill the fungus and when I do, the left side of my neck and head sting and burn from the mycotoxins. I sometimes feel like I have something crawling in my head during die-off times...there are days I feel immensely sick and then I have some good days....mornings are the worst. nights....insomnia. I have been seeing a good nautropath who I have been doing rapid lymphatic drainage with and that has helped get rid of toxins...but there are some days my eyes dialate and I am dizzy and that is when I start to pound more water. I hate this...and I just don't understand why the insurance companies can't cover when it is only making us sicker! I also am very pissed off that someone is not held accountable for the approval of Salin Implants as being safe! They are not! Count me in to help however I can! Because once I am thru this, you best believe I am going to whatever i can with guns a blazing to make sure everyone is aware of the dangers. Sharon From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 4:34:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: Great clips on YouTube Dear All,The class action lawsuit that began in the early '90s was settled for billions, but DOW filed bankruptcy, as did others and thus settlements became moot. Most women were told to settle and 'opt out' of future potential assistance for explanting. Also, much of that money has gone south so to speak (disappeared). As a member of the 'class', I believe I received a total of $2500 after 4 years. White and Luxenborg out of NYC was one of the huge firms that had many of us and they walked away with hundreds of MILLIONS in legal fees.As to writing letters: Letters are seldom kept. Legislators will keep things for one year. It is best to get your ducks in a row and go speak to a State Rep/Senator who is on the committee for health services, ways and means (these are the people who have the money say so) and or human services. Get good information together and then request a meeting either at the capitol when they ware in session (now) or when they are home in your district....they will generally give you 15 minutes of time. I have talked to the State Rep. who I worked for in Oregon and it just so happens one of his daughters got implants 2 years ago (she is 30)...her husband is a doctor. His wife was appalled when I discussed my experiences and is going to speak with her daughter. I am preparing my insurance appeal and various other information and will sit down with him later in the session to discuss the writing of a bill mandating health insurance companies to pay for explants for women who have been implanted prior to 2006 without proving damage to the implants. He also is a co-chair on ways and means. The bill won't happen this session, but I hope to have it on the Floor for 2012.If you are serious about making a difference, let me know and I'll help in any way I can Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWA From: teresa <t-jay130@...>Subject: Re: Great clips on YouTube Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:52 AM I am stunned and saddened to think that the insurance companies and the implant manufacturers are slinking out of their responsibilities when people are in pain. It does sound like lawsuits have been somewhat effective for making medical changes, but OMG how exhausting would that process be? Would need to find a lawyer to do it on a percentage basis...We need to shout about it to the senators and congressmen/women, the manufacturers, the FDA, the media, and the insurance companies...if the letters are sent, they have to remain on file. Over the months and years, maybe they will have an impact. Here's a thought that hit me in the wee hours of the morning...when folks willingly put cigarette smoke in their chests for many years and then some of those folks end up in pain with lung issues, the insurance pays for their care! Hugs of support, M.>> Wow is right teresa. I watched a couple of the movie one. It turns my stomach seeing some of the corruption dramatized. What a mess they've created to insert these poisons into thousands of women. I shudder at the thought. I'm So happy you didn't do it! Maybe another huge lawsuit is coming soon again. Thnx for the clips. And yes, I forgot about the inserts @ joannes. I used them yrs ago for my bathing suits too. Good idea> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T> > Great clips on YouTube> > Have any of you seen this movie?> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120396/plotsummary > > It's available to view in 10 parts on YouTube.> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aHoicx2PUM > > I haven't watched it all, but WOW…> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbLvPXacvg & feature=related > > Kathleen Anneken and Sybil Goldrich (breast cancer survivor) have been spokespersons for women with implant troubles. Kathleen was on Sally Raphael.> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIeFDEUb9Wo & playnext=1 & list=PL41C20B73CC5818CC > > The excellent documentary, Absolutely Safe, is available in parts on YouTube too. I can't find the order, but here's a start.> > > Kaylan Vialpando tells her saline implant and explant saga during 4 YouTube clips. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qPG9AmAJx4 & feature=mfu_in_order & list=UL > > > Hugs of support,> M.> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Count me in too.. from Az (we don't have much money for legal fees but we have been good at sticking to it until reform happens with things, going up against anyone if we are right) From: inbo5599@...Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:14:35 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Great clips on YouTube Count me in. HUGS, From: Sharon Schwengler <share85379@...> Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:48:37 PMSubject: Re: Re: Great clips on YouTube I am serious about making a difference. I got my implants Oct 2005. I have been sick for 1.5 yrs and just now have associated it with my implants. I am speaking with Dr. Kolb and her assitants is trying to get my insurance to cover it, but I now have to fly all the way to Atlanta, get examined by her in order to have them removed. I am mad as hell to say the least about all of this, and someone needs to be accountable. I can't drink wine, eat chocolate, eat cheese, eat bread, eat yogurt, eat sugar, eat vinegar, etc.....I can only have lean chix, turkey, fish and vegetables, if i deviate my food gets stuck in my small intestine and won't go down...I have been daignosed with Candida in my blood and intestines. My hair is coming out, I hurt every morning and gets better as day progresses, blurred vision, hypothyroid, extremely constipated,adrenal fatigue,dizziness, get sick very easily , yeast infections, vaginally and underbreast and sinusitis.....I use to run marathons, and hike mountains...now I can't get my heart rate up or else I exhasut myself...I wished to God I had never gotten these....I take supplements to try and kill the fungus and when I do, the left side of my neck and head sting and burn from the mycotoxins. I sometimes feel like I have something crawling in my head during die-off times...there are days I feel immensely sick and then I have some good days....mornings are the worst. nights....insomnia. I have been seeing a good nautropath who I have been doing rapid lymphatic drainage with and that has helped get rid of toxins...but there are some days my eyes dialate and I am dizzy and that is when I start to pound more water. I hate this...and I just don't understand why the insurance companies can't cover when it is only making us sicker! I also am very pissed off that someone is not held accountable for the approval of Salin Implants as being safe! They are not! Count me in to help however I can! Because once I am thru this, you best believe I am going to whatever i can with guns a blazing to make sure everyone is aware of the dangers. Sharon From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 4:34:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: Great clips on YouTube Dear All,The class action lawsuit that began in the early '90s was settled for billions, but DOW filed bankruptcy, as did others and thus settlements became moot. Most women were told to settle and 'opt out' of future potential assistance for explanting. Also, much of that money has gone south so to speak (disappeared). As a member of the 'class', I believe I received a total of $2500 after 4 years. White and Luxenborg out of NYC was one of the huge firms that had many of us and they walked away with hundreds of MILLIONS in legal fees.As to writing letters: Letters are seldom kept. Legislators will keep things for one year. It is best to get your ducks in a row and go speak to a State Rep/Senator who is on the committee for health services, ways and means (these are the people who have the money say so) and or human services. Get good information together and then request a meeting either at the capitol when they ware in session (now) or when they are home in your district....they will generally give you 15 minutes of time. I have talked to the State Rep. who I worked for in Oregon and it just so happens one of his daughters got implants 2 years ago (she is 30)...her husband is a doctor. His wife was appalled when I discussed my experiences and is going to speak with her daughter. I am preparing my insurance appeal and various other information and will sit down with him later in the session to discuss the writing of a bill mandating health insurance companies to pay for explants for women who have been implanted prior to 2006 without proving damage to the implants. He also is a co-chair on ways and means. The bill won't happen this session, but I hope to have it on the Floor for 2012.If you are serious about making a difference, let me know and I'll help in any way I can Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWA From: teresa <t-jay130@...>Subject: Re: Great clips on YouTube Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:52 AM I am stunned and saddened to think that the insurance companies and the implant manufacturers are slinking out of their responsibilities when people are in pain. It does sound like lawsuits have been somewhat effective for making medical changes, but OMG how exhausting would that process be? Would need to find a lawyer to do it on a percentage basis...We need to shout about it to the senators and congressmen/women, the manufacturers, the FDA, the media, and the insurance companies...if the letters are sent, they have to remain on file. Over the months and years, maybe they will have an impact. Here's a thought that hit me in the wee hours of the morning...when folks willingly put cigarette smoke in their chests for many years and then some of those folks end up in pain with lung issues, the insurance pays for their care! Hugs of support, M.>> Wow is right teresa. I watched a couple of the movie one. It turns my stomach seeing some of the corruption dramatized. What a mess they've created to insert these poisons into thousands of women. I shudder at the thought. I'm So happy you didn't do it! Maybe another huge lawsuit is coming soon again. Thnx for the clips. And yes, I forgot about the inserts @ joannes. I used them yrs ago for my bathing suits too. Good idea> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T> > Great clips on YouTube> > Have any of you seen this movie?> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120396/plotsummary > > It's available to view in 10 parts on YouTube.> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aHoicx2PUM > > I haven't watched it all, but WOW…> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbLvPXacvg & feature=related > > Kathleen Anneken and Sybil Goldrich (breast cancer survivor) have been spokespersons for women with implant troubles. Kathleen was on Sally Raphael.> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIeFDEUb9Wo & playnext=1 & list=PL41C20B73CC5818CC > > The excellent documentary, Absolutely Safe, is available in parts on YouTube too. I can't find the order, but here's a start.> > > Kaylan Vialpando tells her saline implant and explant saga during 4 YouTube clips. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qPG9AmAJx4 & feature=mfu_in_order & list=UL > > > Hugs of support,> M.> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I must be unlike most people have no problems other than constant burn and ache, chest wall pain in both breastsFrom: Sharon Schwengler <share85379@...> Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 6:48:37 PMSubject: Re: Re: Great clips on YouTube I am serious about making a difference. I got my implants Oct 2005. I have been sick for 1.5 yrs and just now have associated it with my implants. I am speaking with Dr. Kolb and her assitants is trying to get my insurance to cover it, but I now have to fly all the way to Atlanta, get examined by her in order to have them removed. I am mad as hell to say the least about all of this, and someone needs to be accountable. I can't drink wine, eat chocolate, eat cheese, eat bread, eat yogurt, eat sugar, eat vinegar, etc.....I can only have lean chix, turkey, fish and vegetables, if i deviate my food gets stuck in my small intestine and won't go down...I have been daignosed with Candida in my blood and intestines. My hair is coming out, I hurt every morning and gets better as day progresses, blurred vision, hypothyroid, extremely constipated,adrenal fatigue,dizziness, get sick very easily , yeast infections, vaginally and underbreast and sinusitis.....I use to run marathons, and hike mountains...now I can't get my heart rate up or else I exhasut myself...I wished to God I had never gotten these....I take supplements to try and kill the fungus and when I do, the left side of my neck and head sting and burn from the mycotoxins. I sometimes feel like I have something crawling in my head during die-off times...there are days I feel immensely sick and then I have some good days....mornings are the worst. nights....insomnia. I have been seeing a good nautropath who I have been doing rapid lymphatic drainage with and that has helped get rid of toxins...but there are some days my eyes dialate and I am dizzy and that is when I start to pound more water. I hate this...and I just don't understand why the insurance companies can't cover when it is only making us sicker! I also am very pissed off that someone is not held accountable for the approval of Salin Implants as being safe! They are not! Count me in to help however I can! Because once I am thru this, you best believe I am going to whatever i can with guns a blazing to make sure everyone is aware of the dangers. Sharon From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 4:34:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: Great clips on YouTube Dear All,The class action lawsuit that began in the early '90s was settled for billions, but DOW filed bankruptcy, as did others and thus settlements became moot. Most women were told to settle and 'opt out' of future potential assistance for explanting. Also, much of that money has gone south so to speak (disappeared). As a member of the 'class', I believe I received a total of $2500 after 4 years. White and Luxenborg out of NYC was one of the huge firms that had many of us and they walked away with hundreds of MILLIONS in legal fees.As to writing letters: Letters are seldom kept. Legislators will keep things for one year. It is best to get your ducks in a row and go speak to a State Rep/Senator who is on the committee for health services, ways and means (these are the people who have the money say so) and or human services. Get good information together and then request a meeting either at the capitol when they ware in session (now) or when they are home in your district....they will generally give you 15 minutes of time. I have talked to the State Rep. who I worked for in Oregon and it just so happens one of his daughters got implants 2 years ago (she is 30)...her husband is a doctor. His wife was appalled when I discussed my experiences and is going to speak with her daughter. I am preparing my insurance appeal and various other information and will sit down with him later in the session to discuss the writing of a bill mandating health insurance companies to pay for explants for women who have been implanted prior to 2006 without proving damage to the implants. He also is a co-chair on ways and means. The bill won't happen this session, but I hope to have it on the Floor for 2012.If you are serious about making a difference, let me know and I'll help in any way I can Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWA From: teresa <t-jay130@...>Subject: Re: Great clips on YouTube Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:52 AM I am stunned and saddened to think that the insurance companies and the implant manufacturers are slinking out of their responsibilities when people are in pain. It does sound like lawsuits have been somewhat effective for making medical changes, but OMG how exhausting would that process be? Would need to find a lawyer to do it on a percentage basis...We need to shout about it to the senators and congressmen/women, the manufacturers, the FDA, the media, and the insurance companies...if the letters are sent, they have to remain on file. Over the months and years, maybe they will have an impact. Here's a thought that hit me in the wee hours of the morning...when folks willingly put cigarette smoke in their chests for many years and then some of those folks end up in pain with lung issues, the insurance pays for their care! Hugs of support, M.>> Wow is right teresa. I watched a couple of the movie one. It turns my stomach seeing some of the corruption dramatized. What a mess they've created to insert these poisons into thousands of women. I shudder at the thought. I'm So happy you didn't do it! Maybe another huge lawsuit is coming soon again. Thnx for the clips. And yes, I forgot about the inserts @ joannes. I used them yrs ago for my bathing suits too. Good idea> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T> > Great clips on YouTube> > Have any of you seen this movie?> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120396/plotsummary > > It's available to view in 10 parts on YouTube.> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aHoicx2PUM > > I haven't watched it all, but WOW…> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbLvPXacvg & feature=related > > Kathleen Anneken and Sybil Goldrich (breast cancer survivor) have been spokespersons for women with implant troubles. Kathleen was on Sally Raphael.> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIeFDEUb9Wo & playnext=1 & list=PL41C20B73CC5818CC > > The excellent documentary, Absolutely Safe, is available in parts on YouTube too. I can't find the order, but here's a start.> > > Kaylan Vialpando tells her saline implant and explant saga during 4 YouTube clips. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qPG9AmAJx4 & feature=mfu_in_order & list=UL > > > Hugs of support,> M.> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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