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If the surgeon just slipped them out then you more than likely

still have the scar capsules inside of you which is full of those toxins.....

This has happened to so many people, and most have to go back and

have surgery to have that removed.

You need to see a really good surgeon......someone that has

alot of experience in this. There is a file in the archives with lists

of doctors that people have used and got good results.....

I hope others chime in here for you and give you more info.......

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Breast hurt more after explant

I'm new to this group. Does anyone know of a good

Plastic Surgeon in Birmingham, AL? I had implants in 2007, explant in 2010, it has been 5 months and the terrible burning and chest wall pain is worse than before. The surgeon has been uncaring saying he just slipped them out, can't understand my pain. Just not sure where to go.

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Bev,

What herbs are you taking. Do you have name for this brand?

Thank you!Sun

From: "moodynomad@..." <moodynomad@...> Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 1:59:16 PMSubject: Re: Breast hurt more after explant

and I have both experienced this problem. We both had ours out in sept of 2010. Mine was waaay worse after explant and katie is still sufferfing. Mine is almost 100% gone and the only difference is I started taking herbs to kill mold in December..the pain ceased within a week...we both have scar tissue in us. She's starting the herbs now. Maybe an option for you until you have another surgery, if you do? And just to be clear, its not a yeast/fungus issue (which you might have too)...it is a mold/fungus issue. I think dr kolb gives her patients anti fungals in prescription form, but with how taxed my liver already was, I'm using herbs. Mold is a tough one to kill and I think is a big culprit for a lot of women staying sick...it puts down roots in your body so it takes a while to kill completely. I have one little section still testing positive but the herbs are definitely working. I'm assuming you had saline? ~bevSent via BlackBerry by

AT & T-----Original Message-----From: "b.fox48" <b.fox48@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:22:02 < >Reply- Subject: Breast hurt more after explantI'm new to this group. Does anyone know of a good Plastic Surgeon in Birmingham, AL? I had implants in 2007, explant in 2010, it has been 5 months and

the terrible burning and chest wall pain is worse than before. The surgeon has been uncaring saying he just slipped them out, can't understand my pain. Just not sure where to go.------------------------------------

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Would you mind sharing what herb (name and brand) you used to kill the mold that worked to cease the pain quickly? I'm always up to learn about something that helps.

I did an internship at a chiropractors office last year that did nutritional response testing. He introduced me to some great chinese herbal teas. Dr. Kwang from california. The ladies that had breast cancer said (AF tea) took away the "itching" they suffered from for so long in a short amount of time.

From: "moodynomad@..." <moodynomad@...> Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 4:59:16 PMSubject: Re: Breast hurt more after explant

and I have both experienced this problem. We both had ours out in sept of 2010. Mine was waaay worse after explant and katie is still sufferfing. Mine is almost 100% gone and the only difference is I started taking herbs to kill mold in December..the pain ceased within a week...we both have scar tissue in us. She's starting the herbs now. Maybe an option for you until you have another surgery, if you do? And just to be clear, its not a yeast/fungus issue (which you might have too)...it is a mold/fungus issue. I think dr kolb gives her patients anti fungals in prescription form, but with how taxed my liver already was, I'm using herbs. Mold is a tough one to kill and I think is a big culprit for a lot of women staying sick...it puts down roots in your body so it takes a while to kill completely. I have one little section still testing positive but the herbs are definitely working. I'm assuming you had saline? ~bevSent via BlackBerry by

AT & T-----Original Message-----From: "b.fox48" <b.fox48@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:22:02 < >Reply- Subject: Breast hurt more after explantI'm new to this group. Does anyone know of a good Plastic Surgeon in Birmingham, AL? I had implants in 2007, explant in 2010, it has been 5 months and

the terrible burning and chest wall pain is worse than before. The surgeon has been uncaring saying he just slipped them out, can't understand my pain. Just not sure where to go.------------------------------------

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I just had biofeedback done today and it said my highest toxin in the body was red tide algae (saxitoxin - potent neurotoxin). I found this interesting because when I talked to Dr. Blais before explant he said that when he used to test implants he would typically find:

bacteria

mold

algae

He said essentially, overtime, you have fish tanks in your chest. When I researched saxitoxin symptoms it sounds a lot like what us women with implants go through. Neurotoxin, numbing and tingling of limbs, respiratory problems etc. Since I've never had shellfish (most common form of exposure) it makes me wonder if the algae is from the implants - thinking it is. My question is . . . has anyone else tested positive for algae and what form of detox worked for algae specifically? I have great sources for bacteria, fungus, and now mold (thanks Bev) just curious about algae?

From: "moodynomad@..." <moodynomad@...> Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 9:35:04 PMSubject: Re: Breast hurt more after explant

Hey Sun and and all- yah I tried mold killing tea like Pao D'arko, a homeopathic liquid called Mycological by Mountain States Health Products, but they didn't work quick enough to cease the pain for me. I was guided to a company called Precision Herbs. i'm in CA but they're in OH. THe Dr was dying from having mold thruout his body (obviously not from implants!) and is now living a healthy life again. so his stuff really works. As for testing to see if you have mold. I mean my Dr.-God bless her- was up for trying anything to find out what was wrong with me. this is valuable info especially if you're in the line of work....We discovered that mold doesn't show up systemically necessarily when you muscle test for it. With our case, the mold is quarantined inside our body in the breast area, not in the chest cavity. So you literally have to put the mold vial on top of the

area infected with mold (in the breast tissue). We have it down to a specific spot ...at first it was showing up all around, but now as I'm feeling SO much better, it's just in one little area. pretty cool stuff. THey told my friend in vegas she didn't have mold, but I told her how she had to test for it and sure enough, they found 3 types! I'm so happy to hear there are dr's willing to try new things. I mean, it's obviously not something they come across often in their careers. But it's something vital to helping us heal..implants in or out!

So here's what i've been taking from precision herbs. They're a privately owned medical co. so you might have to do the whole consultation fees, etc. but if you know you have mold and don't want to go the heavy duty prescription way that puts a heavy load on your kidneys and liver, i highly recommend them.

Mold Sporex:

Used historically to enable the immune system to destroy toxic mold spores. You must also eliminate the source of spores in your living and work spaces.

Echinacea angustifolia top, nutmeg, safflower and cellulase

 

Mold Spore Immune: clove, spikenard, blue vervain, woodruff herb and cellulase

(increases immunity against toxic mold spores)

Mold Spore Allergex: pie pumpkin fruit, daikon radish seed and cellulase

(fights allergies to mold spores)

~Bev----- Re: Breast hurt more after explant

and I have both experienced this problem. We both had ours out in sept of 2010. Mine was waaay worse after explant and katie is still sufferfing. Mine is almost 100% gone and the only difference is I started taking herbs to kill mold in December..the pain ceased within a week...we both have scar tissue in us. She's starting the herbs now. Maybe an option for you until you have another surgery, if you do? And just to be clear, its not a yeast/fungus issue (which you might have too)...it is a mold/fungus issue. I think dr kolb gives her patients anti fungals in prescription form, but with how taxed my liver already was, I'm using herbs. Mold is a tough one to kill and I think is a big culprit for a lot of women staying sick...it puts down roots in your body so it takes a while to kill completely. I have one little section still testing positive but the herbs are definitely working. I'm assuming you had saline? ~bevSent via BlackBerry by

AT & T-----Original Message-----From: "b.fox48" <b.fox48@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:22:02 < >Reply- Subject: Breast hurt more after explantI'm new to this group. Does anyone know of a good Plastic Surgeon in Birmingham, AL? I had implants in 2007, explant in 2010, it has been 5 months and

the terrible burning and chest wall pain is worse than before. The surgeon has been uncaring saying he just slipped them out, can't understand my pain. Just not sure where to go.------------------------------------

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I am doing the following: silicone detoxbrain detoxlymp detoxkidney detoxwhole body detoxI do one at a time...silicone detox is going to take 2 months and the others a month each. I am also going to be doing a parasite detox.If you had your implants taken out and the surgeon cleaned the chest cavity out well, you should be fine with doing your detoxing...research what NOT to eat/digest...My implants were full of mold and algea and had been leaking into my body (along with silicone) for 19-20 years...Dr. Blais indicated that Dr. Hansen did a great job removing everything...of course the question is what will be the long term damage from 20 years of toxic crap floating through my body...but I'm doing really, really well 2 months post.Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWAFrom: Inbody <inbo5599@...>Subject: Re: Breast hurt more after explant Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:47 PM

I just had biofeedback done today and it said my highest toxin in the body was red tide algae (saxitoxin - potent neurotoxin). I found this interesting because when I talked to Dr. Blais before explant he said that when he used to test implants he would typically find:

bacteria

mold

algae

He said essentially, overtime, you have fish tanks in your chest. When I researched saxitoxin symptoms it sounds a lot like what us women with implants go through. Neurotoxin, numbing and tingling of limbs, respiratory problems etc. Since I've never had shellfish (most common form of exposure) it makes me wonder if the algae is from the implants - thinking it is. My question is . . . has anyone else tested positive for algae and what form of detox worked for algae specifically? I have great sources for bacteria, fungus, and now mold (thanks Bev) just curious about algae?

From: "moodynomad@..." <moodynomad@...> Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 9:35:04 PMSubject: Re: Breast hurt more after explant

Hey Sun and and all- yah I tried mold killing tea like Pao D'arko, a homeopathic liquid called Mycological by Mountain States Health Products, but they didn't work quick enough to cease the pain for me. I was guided to a company called Precision Herbs. i'm in CA but they're in OH. THe Dr was dying from having mold thruout his body (obviously not from implants!) and is now living a healthy life again. so his stuff really works. As for testing to see if you have mold. I mean my Dr.-God bless her- was up for trying anything to find out what was wrong with me. this is valuable info especially if you're in the line of work....We discovered that mold doesn't show up systemically necessarily when you muscle test for it. With our case, the mold is quarantined inside our body in the breast area, not in the chest cavity. So you literally have to put the mold vial on top of

the

area infected with mold (in the breast tissue). We have it down to a specific spot ...at first it was showing up all around, but now as I'm feeling SO much better, it's just in one little area. pretty cool stuff. THey told my friend in vegas she didn't have mold, but I told her how she had to test for it and sure enough, they found 3 types! I'm so happy to hear there are dr's willing to try new things. I mean, it's obviously not something they come across often in their careers. But it's something vital to helping us heal..implants in or out!

So here's what i've been taking from precision herbs. They're a privately owned medical co. so you might have to do the whole consultation fees, etc. but if you know you have mold and don't want to go the heavy duty prescription way that puts a heavy load on your kidneys and liver, i highly recommend them.

Mold Sporex:

Used historically to enable the immune system to destroy toxic mold spores. You must also eliminate the source of spores in your living and work spaces.

Echinacea angustifolia top, nutmeg, safflower and cellulase

 

Mold Spore Immune: clove, spikenard, blue vervain, woodruff herb and cellulase

(increases immunity against toxic mold spores)

Mold Spore Allergex: pie pumpkin fruit, daikon radish seed and cellulase

(fights allergies to mold spores)

~Bev----- Re: Breast hurt more after explant

and I have both experienced this problem. We both had ours out in sept of 2010. Mine was waaay worse after explant and katie is still sufferfing. Mine is almost 100% gone and the only difference is I started taking herbs to kill mold in December..the pain ceased within a week...we both have scar tissue in us. She's starting the herbs now. Maybe an option for you until you have another surgery, if you do? And just to be clear, its not a yeast/fungus issue (which you might have too)...it is a mold/fungus issue. I think dr kolb gives her patients anti fungals in prescription form, but with how taxed my liver already was, I'm using herbs. Mold is a tough one to kill and I think is a big culprit for a lot of women staying sick...it puts down roots in your body so it takes a while to kill completely. I have one little section still testing positive but the herbs are definitely working. I'm assuming you had saline? ~bevSent via BlackBerry by

AT & T-----Original Message-----From: "b.fox48" <b.fox48@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:22:02 < >Reply- Subject: Breast hurt more after explantI'm new to this group. Does anyone know of a good Plastic Surgeon in Birmingham, AL? I had implants in

2007, explant in 2010, it has been 5 months and

the terrible burning and chest wall pain is worse than before. The surgeon has been uncaring saying he just slipped them out, can't understand my pain. Just not sure where to go.------------------------------------

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