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You know... everyone who is making this surgery work for themselves

in postopdom has got to find something that works for them. Some

want to go back to dieting like Weight Watchers... I never was long

term successful with any diet.. and I ain't going back there. Some

are wholly devoted to protein supplementation... and I do some

protein drinking myself... but it's not my everything. Some have

found what they always were looking for... seven secrets... and it

works for them. Some follow the pouch rules. Some never weigh.

Some weigh before and after every elimination session. Some never eat

sugar... some allow certain types of sugar. Some wouldn't touch

milk... others see it as a good thing... and the list goes on and on.

And for some reason... those who find an answer for themselves feel

destiny knocking at their doors to go out and " save " those who aren't

doing what they are doing. There seems to be a ready-made army

behind every school of thought. And that's good. Because I would

never have gotten onto vitamins meaningfully or protein

supplementation or taking a look at what I am really hungry for and

then stopping when I get satisfied... or a hundred other ways of life

that I practice.

BUT WHAT IS BAD IS GETTING ALL TICKED OFF ABOUT EVERYTHING AND TAKING

THINGS PERSONALLY. It reminds me of people who are devoutly one

religion or the other and who go out to kill the other religions...

To quote Rodney... Can't we all just get along?

I have yet to read one post that I didn't take something away from

it. In my religion, the leader once said something to the effect

of " shaking the dust from one's feet and moving on. "

How about it? Let's agree to just think we are all swell people,

share our learnings and musings, and not get all defensive. It could

be a beautiful world out there... let's start here.

smooches and only good intentions,

Okie

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Can you tell us what kind of surgery you had? I think sometimes we forget that

there are several different surgeries, and what applies to one does not apply to

all.

Helene

RNY 12/22/99

350/164

71160@... wrote:

> You are correct - we don't need to fight about this " evil milk " , but I'm

> sorry, I probably feel just as strongly about protein and NO milk and NO

> sugar as I ever have in my life because I got sick! I thought " yeah, right,

> I'm doing GREAT, etc., feel good, etc. " only to discover what GOOD really

> FEELS like after I have gotten better now since doing THREE TIMES A WEEK IRON

> via a port placed in my chest, protein shakes 5-8 times per day, monitoring

> my eating constantly, forcing myself to eat even a couple of bites of protein

> or veggies, or dark bread or cottage cheese. I was nearly 7 YEARS out of my

> surgery before it caught up with me. I couldn't even CARRY the dang gallon

> of milk up the stairs from the grocery store I was so weak, but I just

> thought " hmmm.... I have a 6'8 " tall 300 lb husband who is strong, why the

> heck do I HAVE to carry it? " I would have errands to run, and HAD to start

> early in the morning, or I didn't have the stamina to get through more than

> one errand. Going to the grocery store was a chore. But, I blamed it on

> " being tired " . Finally, went to doc, and BAM, off work now for three months.

>

>

> I only argue the milk and protein out of concern for others. We are NOT

> exempt from malnutrition and anemia and lack of the " fat vitamins " . I am

> walking, LIVING (thank God) PROOF.

>

> Take care,

> B

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

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,

Can you tell us what kind of surgery you had? I think sometimes we forget that

there are several different surgeries, and what applies to one does not apply to

all.

Helene

RNY 12/22/99

350/164

71160@... wrote:

> You are correct - we don't need to fight about this " evil milk " , but I'm

> sorry, I probably feel just as strongly about protein and NO milk and NO

> sugar as I ever have in my life because I got sick! I thought " yeah, right,

> I'm doing GREAT, etc., feel good, etc. " only to discover what GOOD really

> FEELS like after I have gotten better now since doing THREE TIMES A WEEK IRON

> via a port placed in my chest, protein shakes 5-8 times per day, monitoring

> my eating constantly, forcing myself to eat even a couple of bites of protein

> or veggies, or dark bread or cottage cheese. I was nearly 7 YEARS out of my

> surgery before it caught up with me. I couldn't even CARRY the dang gallon

> of milk up the stairs from the grocery store I was so weak, but I just

> thought " hmmm.... I have a 6'8 " tall 300 lb husband who is strong, why the

> heck do I HAVE to carry it? " I would have errands to run, and HAD to start

> early in the morning, or I didn't have the stamina to get through more than

> one errand. Going to the grocery store was a chore. But, I blamed it on

> " being tired " . Finally, went to doc, and BAM, off work now for three months.

>

>

> I only argue the milk and protein out of concern for others. We are NOT

> exempt from malnutrition and anemia and lack of the " fat vitamins " . I am

> walking, LIVING (thank God) PROOF.

>

> Take care,

> B

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

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