Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 , Sorry to hear that. I know you needed the assurances on those two tests. It is so frustrating when the doctors do not care enough to listen...all they wanted to do is do the surgery and make money. I hope they saved those fluids for you. Dr. Feng should still do the test even if she believes that the Dr. Blais' idea should be challenged. Also she cannot see the abnormality with her eyes, she should still send it out to the lab to confirm to give you full assurance. From: Inbody <inbo5599@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 1:38:22 PMSubject: Dissapointed I'm so dissapointed right now. On March 8, I went to OH to have total capsulectomy with Dr. Feng. I went to her because: 1 - she was highly recommended by Dr. Blais 2 - she said she would order test for ALCL Lymphoma of fluid found around breast in MRI. I talked to surgeon in MI who did the implants and didn't trust that he would order the test so $8,250 was paid out of pocket and went to OH. During my pre-op we specifically went over CD 30 (and 29) being ordered per FDA recommendations to test for ALCL. My mother was in the room and we were all in agreement to having the test ordered and that we would self pay for the test if my insurance didn't cover it (no additional expense to Feng's office). Also, right after sugery that was the first question I asked, "Testing of fluid was ordered for 29 and 30, right?" I was assured it was. I just got my path report and those test were not run. I called and spoke to Dori her nurse (who was very nice) and said, "Oh, it must just be we didn't specificallly request those. I'll talk to Dr. and make sure we let the lab know and get those ordered. " I then asked her about path testing for the saxitoxin algae (picked up yesterday on biofeedback as main toxin in the body). I said we would pay out of pocket if needed. Again she said "sure" and they'd let the lab know. I called the lab and they assured me they still had my fluid but would need the order from Dr. Feng. This afternoon I got a call from Dr. Feng herself and she said: - "I did not order the test because I saw no reason too. There was nothing abnormal." (even though FDA recommends if there's pain, swelling, and fluid in the breast it should be checked for ALCL lymphoma). "Besides they probably have thrown your fluid away by now." I told her I talked to the lab earlier and they said they still have my fluid and I would like the test anyway and pay out of pocket if needed. She said she was not an "order taker" and would not order the test. Apparently $8,250 is not enough money to write two numbers down on a pathology order slip. she then said - "As far as the algae, there's no way you could have that as there's not enough light in the body for it to grow." I told her Dr. Blais acknowledges that algae can be present with implants. She said "I would challenge that." She did do a good job on the surgery but I only got half of what I went down there for. The surgery was done but not testing for ALCL. Even though it would be no extra expense to her office to order the test she wouldn't. Which is exactly why I didn't get the surgery done in MI. That's why I'm so dissapointed. I also feel it's a discredit to Dr. Blais and all the women who've been tested positive for algae and have problems associated with that (respiratory, numbing of limbs etc). I have since called the lab back to make sure they don't throw away my fluid. So far no one's returned my call. My fluid better not get "lost". Sorry . . . just had to vent. From: Sun Lee <sunloves@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:37:50 PMSubject: Re: Re: approaching surgery and getting medical coverage...... I had a small lump in my breast and the ps said they will do exploratory explant and the insurance came back and said they will only cover the explant of the lump and not the explant..I have CIGNA and they are very strict, but I've heard that other insurance companies are lenient so it all depends on the insurer. Dede is right using the write wording can make a lot of difference. From: Irma <ruiz2000@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 11:33:20 AMSubject: Re: approaching surgery and getting medical coverage...... Thanks, this is very helpful. Were you successful in using this approach? Was the ps willing to do this, or did you go through a primary care doctor for diagnosis, statement on what needed to be done? > >> > Hi Irma. I unfortunately didn't use dr jae but I spoke with 2 doctors recently who Highly recommended him. They said he was knowledgeable in breast implant illness so I would definitely make an appointment for a consult with him. Hope you get those things out soon and start healing! > > ~Bev> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T> > > > Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California > > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 What a sad story...no wonder you're disappointed. So, just to be clear...the lab says they need the order from Dr. Feng? Or perhaps is it that the lab needs the order from a doctor? Call the lab one more time to double check. I would think that Dr. Blais could/would write the order....just trying to think of something... Hugs, M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 The lab said they need an order from Dr. Feng or I could have a doctor call and talk to the pathologist. The pathologist wouldn't talk to me (which I thought was strange). That is a really good idea . I'll contact Dr. Blais, maybe he'll write the order. I feel like I was told what I wanted to hear before surgery but now that the monies been paid and it's over . . . HUGS, From: teresa <t-jay130@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 5:18:04 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed What a sad story...no wonder you're disappointed. So, just to be clear...the lab says they need the order from Dr. Feng? Or perhaps is it that the lab needs the order from a doctor? Call the lab one more time to double check. I would think that Dr. Blais could/would write the order....just trying to think of something... Hugs, M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Can someone give me Dr. Blais information because I want to send my capsules to him when I get my explant. I am learning so much from all you wonderful ladies. I am so sorry for everything that you are going through but you are helping people everyday. Thank you From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 1:02:03 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed ,I sent my implants and capsules directly to Dr. Blais for all the testing right after surgery.Dr. Hansen indicated that the implants and capsules would go to the surgical pathology for testing...Dr. Blais told me that ALL THAT SURGICAL PATHOLOGY does is check the CAPSULES to see if there is any potential concern for CANCER...nothing else. I asked Dr. Hansen about this (all prior to surgery) and she said that pathology would check for condition, contamination, toxins. I then called pathology and got information that no, they do not check for any of that, it is STANDARD to ONLY look for concerns that point to cancer.Then I contacted Dr. Blais (again) and asked him how I needed to send capsules/implants to him for the appropriate testing...he sent me the protocol (there is an essential way that the implants and capsules need to be preserved and shipped) and requested OHSU pathology to follow the protocol and I picked them up on the 4th day and FedEx'd them.Dr. Blais cannot write an order for you. the pathology needs an order from the dr that sent the samples to them. I think women need to be aware of this pathology thing. Bottom line, plastic surgeons are STILL PLASTIC SURGEONS and putting toxic things INTO PEOPLES bodies...they are not going to admit to mold, algea, necrosis, etc.I LOVED my surgeon and have highly recommended her to numerous women who are seeking her out. But I'm letting them know that she will NOT admit that there is damage from implants...PERIOD. Her report indicated mine were discolored, but INTACT...the OHSU pathology indicated that they were INTACT and discolored, but nothing was wrong (of course again, they were looking for cancer concerns).Dr. Blais's testing and ultimate report indicated 80% degradation of the implants, mold, algae, leaking valves causing auto-inflation (which means they were leaking crap into my body for 20 years and then SELF FILLING with all the toxic fluid in and around them and the capsule...thus they never 'deflated').So again women, if you are going to get an explant and feel the need to have your implants tested properly and get a report...arrange well in advance with Dr. Blais (or another agency that does the same type of testing/reports he does) and get it done. I read this type of thing continually...I'm not certain why anyone would think a plastic surgeon, be it Kolb, Feng, etc., would fall to their knees in horror because you implants are bad....because when they are finished with your surgery, they will put the same toxic shit into another persons body and tell them how wonderful they look and how SAFE THEY ARE....Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWAFrom: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California > > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 613-728-8688 From: stacy richardson <stacyrich14@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 1:24:32 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed Can someone give me Dr. Blais information because I want to send my capsules to him when I get my explant. I am learning so much from all you wonderful ladies. I am so sorry for everything that you are going through but you are helping people everyday. Thank you From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 1:02:03 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed ,I sent my implants and capsules directly to Dr. Blais for all the testing right after surgery.Dr. Hansen indicated that the implants and capsules would go to the surgical pathology for testing...Dr. Blais told me that ALL THAT SURGICAL PATHOLOGY does is check the CAPSULES to see if there is any potential concern for CANCER...nothing else. I asked Dr. Hansen about this (all prior to surgery) and she said that pathology would check for condition, contamination, toxins. I then called pathology and got information that no, they do not check for any of that, it is STANDARD to ONLY look for concerns that point to cancer.Then I contacted Dr. Blais (again) and asked him how I needed to send capsules/implants to him for the appropriate testing...he sent me the protocol (there is an essential way that the implants and capsules need to be preserved and shipped) and requested OHSU pathology to follow the protocol and I picked them up on the 4th day and FedEx'd them.Dr. Blais cannot write an order for you. the pathology needs an order from the dr that sent the samples to them. I think women need to be aware of this pathology thing. Bottom line, plastic surgeons are STILL PLASTIC SURGEONS and putting toxic things INTO PEOPLES bodies...they are not going to admit to mold, algea, necrosis, etc.I LOVED my surgeon and have highly recommended her to numerous women who are seeking her out. But I'm letting them know that she will NOT admit that there is damage from implants...PERIOD. Her report indicated mine were discolored, but INTACT...the OHSU pathology indicated that they were INTACT and discolored, but nothing was wrong (of course again, they were looking for cancer concerns).Dr. Blais's testing and ultimate report indicated 80% degradation of the implants, mold, algae, leaking valves causing auto-inflation (which means they were leaking crap into my body for 20 years and then SELF FILLING with all the toxic fluid in and around them and the capsule...thus they never 'deflated').So again women, if you are going to get an explant and feel the need to have your implants tested properly and get a report...arrange well in advance with Dr. Blais (or another agency that does the same type of testing/reports he does) and get it done. I read this type of thing continually...I'm not certain why anyone would think a plastic surgeon, be it Kolb, Feng, etc., would fall to their knees in horror because you implants are bad....because when they are finished with your surgery, they will put the same toxic shit into another persons body and tell them how wonderful they look and how SAFE THEY ARE.... Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWA From: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Barbara, I wish I would've sent mine directly to him too. I'm exhausted from all the conflicting information I received today from drs, pathology labs, etc. Right now I need a mental break and just glad they're finally out and that I'm feeling a lot better than before. I did talk to Dr. Blais and he's going to do some checking around on the ALCL testing. Overall though it sounds like it's too late to do testing - needs to be done in 24 hrs. In regards to algae he said (as well as another local microbiologist I talked to today) that algae can be in the body (as you all know too). 80% degradation - WOW!!! That's a lot. No wonder you were so sick. How long ago was explant, how are you now, and how long did it take to get the pain out of chest? I guess after being treated like crap by so many doctors (told you're crazy, treatened to be put in a mental hospital - I know some of you have experienced this too) you just hope you can find someone in the medical industry that understands. I still can't fathom how so many women (now men are getting implants too - arms, legs) can suffer and the medical community as a whole looks the other way. No one wants to get involved. This has been going on for decades. I wonder what it's going to take (and how long) for this to be common awareness. Not holding my breath. I've heard it's the "in" thing for girls to get implants for graduation, college graduation, and weddings. We'll have a whole new group getting sick approx 5 - 15 years from now. Sad. I know I missed responding to a few comments last night. I quickly read postings but didn't get a chance to respond - sorry! My boys both came home with the flu and it was a looong evening. We did oils throughout night and everyones good today but very tiiiired. :-) HUGS, From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 1:02:03 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed ,I sent my implants and capsules directly to Dr. Blais for all the testing right after surgery.Dr. Hansen indicated that the implants and capsules would go to the surgical pathology for testing...Dr. Blais told me that ALL THAT SURGICAL PATHOLOGY does is check the CAPSULES to see if there is any potential concern for CANCER...nothing else. I asked Dr. Hansen about this (all prior to surgery) and she said that pathology would check for condition, contamination, toxins. I then called pathology and got information that no, they do not check for any of that, it is STANDARD to ONLY look for concerns that point to cancer.Then I contacted Dr. Blais (again) and asked him how I needed to send capsules/implants to him for the appropriate testing...he sent me the protocol (there is an essential way that the implants and capsules need to be preserved and shipped) and requested OHSU pathology to follow the protocol and I picked them up on the 4th day and FedEx'd them.Dr. Blais cannot write an order for you. the pathology needs an order from the dr that sent the samples to them. I think women need to be aware of this pathology thing. Bottom line, plastic surgeons are STILL PLASTIC SURGEONS and putting toxic things INTO PEOPLES bodies...they are not going to admit to mold, algea, necrosis, etc.I LOVED my surgeon and have highly recommended her to numerous women who are seeking her out. But I'm letting them know that she will NOT admit that there is damage from implants...PERIOD. Her report indicated mine were discolored, but INTACT...the OHSU pathology indicated that they were INTACT and discolored, but nothing was wrong (of course again, they were looking for cancer concerns).Dr. Blais's testing and ultimate report indicated 80% degradation of the implants, mold, algae, leaking valves causing auto-inflation (which means they were leaking crap into my body for 20 years and then SELF FILLING with all the toxic fluid in and around them and the capsule...thus they never 'deflated').So again women, if you are going to get an explant and feel the need to have your implants tested properly and get a report...arrange well in advance with Dr. Blais (or another agency that does the same type of testing/reports he does) and get it done. I read this type of thing continually...I'm not certain why anyone would think a plastic surgeon, be it Kolb, Feng, etc., would fall to their knees in horror because you implants are bad....because when they are finished with your surgery, they will put the same toxic shit into another persons body and tell them how wonderful they look and how SAFE THEY ARE.... Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWA From: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 One more question for the group. For all of you that had explants and then sent to Dr. Blais for report . . . other than personal knowledge, did the reports help in any way? The reason I'm aksing is because 1) mentally exhausted from all this 2) already paid $8,250 to Feng plus hotel / gas / food cost for 1 week in OH, now Feng's office wants additional $375.00 to send the implants to Dr. Blais and then his report is another few hundred. From a money standpoint (meaning running out) if there isn't anything I can do with the report (other than verify harmful microorganism and malfunction) I might call it day on this and concentrate on healing. If I could do over, I would've sent them to Dr. Blais first. From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 1:02:03 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed ,I sent my implants and capsules directly to Dr. Blais for all the testing right after surgery.Dr. Hansen indicated that the implants and capsules would go to the surgical pathology for testing...Dr. Blais told me that ALL THAT SURGICAL PATHOLOGY does is check the CAPSULES to see if there is any potential concern for CANCER...nothing else. I asked Dr. Hansen about this (all prior to surgery) and she said that pathology would check for condition, contamination, toxins. I then called pathology and got information that no, they do not check for any of that, it is STANDARD to ONLY look for concerns that point to cancer.Then I contacted Dr. Blais (again) and asked him how I needed to send capsules/implants to him for the appropriate testing...he sent me the protocol (there is an essential way that the implants and capsules need to be preserved and shipped) and requested OHSU pathology to follow the protocol and I picked them up on the 4th day and FedEx'd them.Dr. Blais cannot write an order for you. the pathology needs an order from the dr that sent the samples to them. I think women need to be aware of this pathology thing. Bottom line, plastic surgeons are STILL PLASTIC SURGEONS and putting toxic things INTO PEOPLES bodies...they are not going to admit to mold, algea, necrosis, etc.I LOVED my surgeon and have highly recommended her to numerous women who are seeking her out. But I'm letting them know that she will NOT admit that there is damage from implants...PERIOD. Her report indicated mine were discolored, but INTACT...the OHSU pathology indicated that they were INTACT and discolored, but nothing was wrong (of course again, they were looking for cancer concerns).Dr. Blais's testing and ultimate report indicated 80% degradation of the implants, mold, algae, leaking valves causing auto-inflation (which means they were leaking crap into my body for 20 years and then SELF FILLING with all the toxic fluid in and around them and the capsule...thus they never 'deflated').So again women, if you are going to get an explant and feel the need to have your implants tested properly and get a report...arrange well in advance with Dr. Blais (or another agency that does the same type of testing/reports he does) and get it done. I read this type of thing continually...I'm not certain why anyone would think a plastic surgeon, be it Kolb, Feng, etc., would fall to their knees in horror because you implants are bad....because when they are finished with your surgery, they will put the same toxic shit into another persons body and tell them how wonderful they look and how SAFE THEY ARE.... Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWA From: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 , I sent my implants to Dr. Blais. I did NOT pay for a report. He still has them. What he did do for me was to send me a letter confirming that the implants were contaminated with microorganisms that would have been equal to walking around with two large abscesses in my body. It was a visual that was enough for me. I decided in the long run that my money was better spent on healing, rather than testing the implants. One argument was that if I did test them properly, I would have known what kind of organism I was dealing with to better target my therapies. However, I decided that I would use an approach that assumed that my body was infected with fungus, bacteria and toxins, and my approach would encompass hitting ALL of that. It took me awhile but my healing was attained and without spending thousands upon thousands of dollars in the medical field. I decided I wanted off that merry-go-round early on, and focused on natural therapies I could do from home. Best wishes to you. Patty > >> > > >> > Hi Irma. I unfortunately didn't use dr jae but I spoke with 2 doctors > >>recently who Highly recommended him. They said he was knowledgeable in breast > >>implant illness so I would definitely make an appointment for a consult with > >>him. Hope you get those things out soon and start healing! > >> > >> > ~Bev > >> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > >> > > >> > Looking for a good surgeon in So. California > >> > > >> > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I > >>believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in > >>the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone > >>have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 .... All in All, you have improved drastically since explant..... I would definately want the implants in biohazard containers in formalin , just in case later down the road you want or need them for any reason......The lab can mail them to you...... 375 for mailing them, which they were put in those containers upon removal, is an insult....and totally pathetic........ I would find out what lab they are in, and either ask your local doctor to fax a note for them to mail them to him/her........which would be little or no cost to you....... Docs dont charge docs for transport ......... Since you were so very ill with them......just havin them just in case you need to have more testing would be good........ Its a hard decision....for sure ! When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California > > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 ,The implants and capsules (if they are still available) belong to YOU. IF you decide to send them to Dr. Blais request that he email you the protocol of how to do this, let him know how long it has been and see if it makes any difference. Then you call the pathology DOCTOR (Not Feng or whomever did the explant) and tell them of your plans. Get their fax and/or email and send them over the protocol for having them prepared...then go and get them and send them YOURSELF to Dr. Blais via FEDEX. If it's too far away for you to go and get them, then discuss with the PATHOLOGY DOCTOR how much it would cost for them to prepare them and send them via FEDEX..I had my explant done in Portland Oregon at OHSU...I called the surgical pathology department and got the name/email of the doctor that would be getting the sample on the day of my surgery. I then EMAILED him and sent him Dr. Blais protocol for preparation for shipping and indicated to him I would pick them up. He (the pathology doctor) emailed Dr. Hansen (my explant surgeon) and asked her if I was indeed a patient (he copied me on the email). She said yes and to to do whatever I needed to have done. My surgery was Thursday on Monday a.m. I picked up everything for shipment and the pathology doctor had followed the protocol perfectly and I was so happy. They did NOT CHARGE ME A DIME for doing this.As to is it something you should do. The ONLY reason I had mine done was due to fighting insurance...i doubt I would have had it done otherwise. But now, given what I found out regarding the implants, I am VERY HAPPY I did it and feel it was the best $500 I've spent.Hope this helps. As a NOTE: know that often it's best to let it go and move on and heal.Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011.In loving memory of TIRAWA From: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 you can do a google search for Dr. Pierre Blais at Innova in Canada.He has a protocol for preserving and sending them and he needs the capsules/implants. Call and talk to him well prior to your surgery so you get a good understanding.Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWAFrom: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California > > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 His info is listed in our explant folder... Pierre Blais, PhD Innoval 496 Westminster Ave. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada KeA 2V1 613.728-8688 Fax: 613.728-0687 > > > > > > > > Hi Irma. I unfortunately didn't use dr jae but I spoke with 2 doctors recently who Highly recommended him. They said he was knowledgeable in breast implant illness so I would definitely make an appointment for a consult with him. Hope you get those things out soon and start healing! > > > > ~Bev > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > > > > > > > Looking for a good surgeon in So. California > > > > > > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Thank you for this info. Pathology lab is 6 hours away but I wouldn't rule out driving there. First, I'll call the pathology lab and see how much they will charge to ship directly and fax them Dr. Blais protocol for preparation (per your suggestion . . . sounds good). Thank you so much for your input. It helps to have guidance from an experienced group. Glad we're not alone. HUGS, From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 10:12:36 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed ,The implants and capsules (if they are still available) belong to YOU. IF you decide to send them to Dr. Blais request that he email you the protocol of how to do this, let him know how long it has been and see if it makes any difference. Then you call the pathology DOCTOR (Not Feng or whomever did the explant) and tell them of your plans. Get their fax and/or email and send them over the protocol for having them prepared...then go and get them and send them YOURSELF to Dr. Blais via FEDEX. If it's too far away for you to go and get them, then discuss with the PATHOLOGY DOCTOR how much it would cost for them to prepare them and send them via FEDEX..I had my explant done in Portland Oregon at OHSU...I called the surgical pathology department and got the name/email of the doctor that would be getting the sample on the day of my surgery. I then EMAILED him and sent him Dr. Blais protocol for preparation for shipping and indicated to him I would pick them up. He (the pathology doctor) emailed Dr. Hansen (my explant surgeon) and asked her if I was indeed a patient (he copied me on the email). She said yes and to to do whatever I needed to have done. My surgery was Thursday on Monday a.m. I picked up everything for shipment and the pathology doctor had followed the protocol perfectly and I was so happy. They did NOT CHARGE ME A DIME for doing this.As to is it something you should do. The ONLY reason I had mine done was due to fighting insurance...i doubt I would have had it done otherwise. But now, given what I found out regarding the implants, I am VERY HAPPY I did it and feel it was the best $500 I've spent.Hope this helps. As a NOTE: know that often it's best to let it go and move on and heal. Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011.In loving memory of TIRAWA From: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Call Dr. Blais first and ask his advise and it could save you alot of heartache and money Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWA From: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Please don't be mad at me ladies for sounding so judgemental but I've decided, I'm not going to Kolb who claims implants are unsafe but has them, I'm not going to Feng because she is an egotistical lyer. Not Hiatt or Leighton because they are arrogant and rude. Oh, yeah, and how Leighton treated Penny who is a breast cancer survivor that is now offlist here, is shocking and sad..and I definately believe it because of how abrupt he was with me making me cry also. Oh, and I was keen on Melmed till I heard he thinks scar tissue dissolves and doesn't need to be removed. HUH? My friend's colon gets critically clogged up regularly because of a surgery 30 yrs ago that created a lot of scar tissue and the docs at UCSD say it is the scar tissue from that surgery. Why didn't it dissolve then? I'm just so sick of all of this, and I take all of what you all say very seriously. If we don't learn from what we are sharing we have been through, what's the sense of listening anymore. I have spent so much time already thinking how I should have thought more carefully and taken some things people said more seriously. But, I know no one is perfect. The problem is that I am in hypersensitivity mode from all my body has been through already. When I hear these things, it makes me want to search further also. But where now? I guess I'll look at the California docs list? I dk. T From: inbo5599@...Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:59:26 -0700Subject: Re: Dissapointed 613-728-8688 From: stacy richardson <stacyrich14@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 1:24:32 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed Can someone give me Dr. Blais information because I want to send my capsules to him when I get my explant. I am learning so much from all you wonderful ladies. I am so sorry for everything that you are going through but you are helping people everyday. Thank you From: BJ Schulz <massageequines@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 1:02:03 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed ,I sent my implants and capsules directly to Dr. Blais for all the testing right after surgery.Dr. Hansen indicated that the implants and capsules would go to the surgical pathology for testing...Dr. Blais told me that ALL THAT SURGICAL PATHOLOGY does is check the CAPSULES to see if there is any potential concern for CANCER...nothing else. I asked Dr. Hansen about this (all prior to surgery) and she said that pathology would check for condition, contamination, toxins. I then called pathology and got information that no, they do not check for any of that, it is STANDARD to ONLY look for concerns that point to cancer.Then I contacted Dr. Blais (again) and asked him how I needed to send capsules/implants to him for the appropriate testing...he sent me the protocol (there is an essential way that the implants and capsules need to be preserved and shipped) and requested OHSU pathology to follow the protocol and I picked them up on the 4th day and FedEx'd them.Dr. Blais cannot write an order for you. the pathology needs an order from the dr that sent the samples to them. I think women need to be aware of this pathology thing. Bottom line, plastic surgeons are STILL PLASTIC SURGEONS and putting toxic things INTO PEOPLES bodies...they are not going to admit to mold, algea, necrosis, etc.I LOVED my surgeon and have highly recommended her to numerous women who are seeking her out. But I'm letting them know that she will NOT admit that there is damage from implants...PERIOD. Her report indicated mine were discolored, but INTACT...the OHSU pathology indicated that they were INTACT and discolored, but nothing was wrong (of course again, they were looking for cancer concerns).Dr. Blais's testing and ultimate report indicated 80% degradation of the implants, mold, algae, leaking valves causing auto-inflation (which means they were leaking crap into my body for 20 years and then SELF FILLING with all the toxic fluid in and around them and the capsule...thus they never 'deflated').So again women, if you are going to get an explant and feel the need to have your implants tested properly and get a report...arrange well in advance with Dr. Blais (or another agency that does the same type of testing/reports he does) and get it done. I read this type of thing continually...I'm not certain why anyone would think a plastic surgeon, be it Kolb, Feng, etc., would fall to their knees in horror because you implants are bad....because when they are finished with your surgery, they will put the same toxic shit into another persons body and tell them how wonderful they look and how SAFE THEY ARE.... Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWA From: Dede <DGRAHAMA@...>Subject: Re: Dissapointed Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:17 PM I would not only be upset, I would be FLAMING ! That was part of the job you paid her that money for, and she AGREED ! I hope she orders it now ,so that you can have the peace of mind. Did the hospital do a pathology of the scar caps and implants ? Be sure you get a copy of the OP report from Dr Feng, and copies of all labs and pathologies....... There are far too many medical mistakes made to not have those ! Blessings ~ Dede When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 , I won't be mad at your for sounding judgmental....I just want what is best for you. I know how hard this decision is...I've been there! I hope I can help a little bit to make you feel better about this and not be so stressed about it. It is difficult enough to go through any surgery, but this one is sad, frightening, and stressful more than most others. There is so much uncertainty associated with implants anymore, I think it is so criminal that the medical profession has gotten away with this crap! So, here is what I want to say. There will never be a perfect plastic surgeon...you know this. The doctors we have found to be listening to us the best come as close as we can get, but they have patients who love them, and then there are patients who have made complaints for whatever reason. The bottom line is this: Who is going to have the knowledge and skill to get those implants out of you correctly? That is what you want. Regardless of their personal life, idiosyncrasies or whatever. And it has to be someone you WANT to work with. No sense going to someone who gives you the heebie-jeebies, but at the same time, we have to be realistic. The issue with Dr. Kolb has mystified a bunch of people. Me included. But, in the end, it is her life. If she wants to be a walking experiment, so be it. She has done so much to bring this issue to the public knowledge, writing books, doing radio shows, her websites, etc. She has stuck her neck out for us, because she was one of us. She got sick from her implants. She KNOWS what we are going through. She also is a very,very, very skilled plastic surgeon who understands the need to remove ALL of the scar tissue, use drains, and get you back to good health. Girlfriend, Dr. Kolb is one of the best, plain and simple. Some like her, some think she is a kook. It doesn't matter. In the end, she is one of YOUR BEST ALLIES. She has studied herself in terms of how to get better, and I believe she thinks she has fought the fight against implants and won, with all her holistic therapies. It is not a fight many of us have the money or fortitude to go through. I myself wouldn't take the chance. (I think it is foolish). But, in the end, is she on your side? YES, SHE IS. She will do a good explant for you, bottom line. Dr. Lu-Feng is another one I will defend to the max. Talk about expert....she is simply one of the best in the world! She has stood strong with us on the issue of implants making us sick. She makes every effort to remove every last drop of spilled silicone, she KNOWS the scar tissue has to come out, and she does everything she can to make your explant a good one. I, for one, trust her completely. I am not saying she is perfect, and perhaps she has not handled some of the pathology issues correctly (my plastic surgeon didn't either...wasted my money!) , but to answer the question, can she correctly explant you so you can go on to heal and have your best chance at health recovery? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT. She's worth the effort. She's expensive, yes, but she has the reputation that does along with it. She has been one of our heroines for years and years. Here is how much I hold Dr. Feng in high regard: If I ever had to have any kind of plastic surgery in the future, she would be my FIRST pick. She's tops. Dr. Huang in Denver is another one who takes care of us. She has stood alongside us for many years and though she is not very vocal about it, she knows how to do a proper explant and will work with you (such as the fat transfers) to make you a satisfied patient. She cares, simply stated. Which is a far cry from many other less knowledgeable plastic surgeons. If you use her, you will love her. I've known women who went to her to have their scar tissue removed when their other plastic surgeons failed them. She KNOWS what to do, bottom line. Dr. Ed Melmed in Dallas has been very outspoken in this issue, very compassionate and very much one of our heroes. We trust him based on his compassion towards us and his willingness to fight at the government level against the implant monstrosity, and WOW, his stance against never placing implants....how can you not hold this man in high regard? There are no others like him! But the issue surrounding the removal of scar tissue is one of our biggest concerns, because he stands in opposition to Dr. Kolb and Dr. Feng and Dr. Blais on this issue. So, we just recommend that there is a very thorough discussion of this if you go to him. He's compassionate, kind, on your side. Just get that scar tissue issue resolved with him. I hope this helps you make a decision with a little less stress. I have walked through this explant decision with many women. I've seen so many wring their hands about it, having been treated in insulting manners, not taken seriously, told they would get capsule removal only to find out afterwards they were lied to (by looking at the operative report and seeing that part of the capsule was left in), and other monstrosities by doctors who did not understand nor respect the fact that their implants had made them ill. The doctors I listed above are ones we know you can go to and not have to go through that! That is why they are our heroes....they believe us, and then do what is right by us. Keep that bottom line in mind...you want a correctly done explant. You might be able to find another surgeon to do it for you, after consulting with them and doing your research. Heaven knows I would love to see our list of HERO doctors become very long and in every state. But until they start doing what is necessary, our list of hero docs will remain limited to those listed above. Let's not knock them down, because they are all we have. Wishing you the best, Patty > > > > > > Hi Irma. I unfortunately didn't use dr jae but I spoke with 2 doctors recently who Highly recommended him. They said he was knowledgeable in breast implant illness so I would definitely make an appointment for a consult with him. Hope you get those things out soon and start healing! > > > ~Bev > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > > > > > Looking for a good surgeon in So. California > > > > > > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Hi Patty.. In reading your post sounds like a wise descision to me. >>>> However, I decided that I would use an approach that assumed that my body was infected with fungus, bacteria and toxins, and my approach would encompass hitting ALL of that.>>>>It took me awhile but my healing was attained and without spending thousands upon thousands of dollars in the medical field. I decided I wanted off that merry-go-round early on, and focused on natural therapies I could do from home. Hugs, There would be nothing to frighten you if you refused to be afraid. Gandhi From: glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 6:17:27 PMSubject: Re: Dissapointed ,I sent my implants to Dr. Blais. I did NOT pay for a report. He still has them.What he did do for me was to send me a letter confirming that the implants were contaminated with microorganisms that would have been equal to walking around with two large abscesses in my body. It was a visual that was enough for me.I decided in the long run that my money was better spent on healing, rather than testing the implants. One argument was that if I did test them properly, I would have known what kind of organism I was dealing with to better target my therapies.However, I decided that I would use an approach that assumed that my body was infected with fungus, bacteria and toxins, and my approach would encompass hitting ALL of that.It took me awhile but my healing was attained and without spending thousands upon thousands of dollars in the medical field. I decided I wanted off that merry-go-round early on, and focused on natural therapies I could do from home. Best wishes to you.Patty> >> >> >> > Hi Irma. I unfortunately didn't use dr jae but I spoke with 2 doctors > >>recently who Highly recommended him. They said he was knowledgeable in breast > >>implant illness so I would definitely make an appointment for a consult with > >>him. Hope you get those things out soon and start healing! > >>> >> > ~Bev> >> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T> >> > > >> > Looking for a good surgeon in So. California> >> > > >> > I have been ill for about 6 months now ( and had symptoms for much longer). I > >>believe it is the implants making me sick and am looking for a good surgeon in > >>the southern California area that will do a proper en bloc removal. Does anyone > >>have any recommendations? Does anyone have experience with Dr. Jae Chun?> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------> >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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