Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 sounds like the pt went a little too hard on you too soon. My therapy the first week after surgery was very lite. I'm 40, and in good shape. My surgeon told me pt can screw you up if they go too hard too soon. After 2 weeks I became much more aggressive. It's been 31/2 weeks since my surgery, and I'm walking 2 sets of 20 minutes on my treadmill as well as doing all the strengthening excercises. Point is don't overdo it too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 meseny mused: I saw my surgeon after 2 weeks of the drops to dissolve the packing in my ear. She says it is not dissolving as she would like. I must use the drops another 2 weeks. I also have fluid still in my middle ear and was prescribed flonase for two weeks. If this does not clear up I will have a tube put in my ear. What is this like? Anyone? -------------------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it takes quite a while for fluid to reabsorb. If your eustachian tube is blocked, fluid can't drain out into your throat like it would naturally. Flonase will help with a minor blockage by shrinking tissue that may be in the way. If Flonase doesn't work, then chances are that the tube won't come unblocked by itself. That's when the permanent (or semi-permanent) tubes are used to help drain the middle ear and equalize pressure behind the eardrum. I have one in my left ear. My surgeon put it in an outpatient surgery center, but only because I have so much scar tissue in the left ear (four surgeries). He wanted me asleep, but it only took about 10 minutes from start to finish. Usually, they're done in the office and it's not a bad procedure, pain-wise. Kids usually have anesthesia to have theirs done because they wiggle too much. Two more weeks of drops isn't unusual, either. It is far better to come back later than have her try to suction out the packing while it's still hard. Hurts less :-D -- Diane Chidgey McNelly Sassy Suds, Inc. http://www.sassysuds.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Hello Nora, Please try to relax. I'm sure you have read about things that could happen, but most likely won't happen. I have had two CI surgeries. I knew of the risks involved, but I made the decision, and I don't regret it. When you come out on the other side, you will be thankful with improved hearing. Turning on a processor for the first time is certainly not like getting a new hearing aid. Av training after activation is a good idea and will make your transition smoother. hth Larry After surgery > okay i'm a little nervous now.. > > Can someone remind me what will happen after the CI surgery? > > -will i understand speech right away when i get activated? > -how many times do you see your audi to improve your mapping > strategies? > -so how do I relearn hearing speech on my own? would i need someone to > help me,like a speech tharapist or something? - > - I'm worried about the risks of surgery--Do any of you have facial > nerves damage? if so, does it bother you? > > Thanks, > > Nora > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Nora, There is risk in any surgery. But many here will tell you that for many, its minimal. Me for one, I was out of the hospital about 3 hours after returning to my room. Went to lunch in a BMW with top down. Rode around for hours seems like. The worst problem I had was balance but it was very manageable and improved wihtin a week. There is no way to predict outcome at activation. Just remember this adage... " High hopes, low expectations. " In other words hope for the best but dont expect much. There is no set number of times one will see an audie. You will probably go many times in the first year. Listen to everything around you. Listen to people you know, especially the patient ones. Some go to a speech tharapist too. You cna talk about that with your audie. Now, get past the surgery, heal up, then worry about activation. You dont want to overload. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* I bought a dog the other day... I named him Stay. It's fun to call him... " Come here, Stay! Come here, Stay! " He went insane. Now he just ignores me and keeps typing. & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I actually have some left from my last diet experience and thought this morning about taking it. I am seriously struggling 2 1/2 weeks post surgery for food. I miss the sensation of eating and didn't realize how much time eating consumed my life. I have nothing else to do and feel like I am coming off an addiction. I wouldn't imagine taking the phenterimine would be ideal, however I am thinking about it! What about you? By the way, I have lost 21 pounds and 14 inches in this 2 1/2 weeks, but that is only because I am still on only liquids. I started at 248. Where does your weight loss stand? After Surgery Just wondering if anyone post-op has taken Fastin (phenternamine) to control the "head hunger"? Also has anyone used soy shakes (www.revivalsoy.com) to get their protein grams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 //I wouldn't imagine taking the phenterimine would be ideal, however I am thinking about it! What about you? // Some Dr's prescribe it for their patients prior to their firs fill. I took it in the begining when I was really hungry. I don't see why you wouldn't use it if you relly need it. It is certainly better then cheating and eating food early. **This is just my opinion** 7/18/05 280/198/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I'm not sure if anyone has replyed to your question about phenterimine but I do not believe it is something you can take, I use to take it prior to surgery and I know they wanted to make sure I wasn't on it anymore before surgery because of reasons I can't remember why, but I don't think it is a good idea to take after being banded. Ask Nina she will know. Tracie Bartek 248/200/150 DOB 6/24/06 Dr. Acevesa Lap Band Doll (one of many) Keli <kjwright@...> wrote: I actually have some left from my last diet experience and thought this morning about taking it. I am seriously struggling 2 1/2 weeks post surgery for food. I miss the sensation of eating and didn't realize how much time eating consumed my life. I have nothing else to do and feel like I am coming off an addiction. I wouldn't imagine taking the phenterimine would be ideal, however I am thinking about it! What about you? By the way, I have lost 21 pounds and 14 inches in this 2 1/2 weeks, but that is only because I am still on only liquids. I started at 248. Where does your weight loss stand? After Surgery Just wondering if anyone post-op has taken Fastin (phenternamine) to control the "head hunger"? Also has anyone used soy shakes (www.revivalsoy.com) to get their protein grams?Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Thanks fo ryour input on that! I was beginning to wonder if anyone had read this. Can I ask another question- I feel no restriction is that normal? I asked Nina also and am awaiting her reply. Keep in mind I am a couple weeks post surgery. After Surgery Just wondering if anyone post-op has taken Fastin (phenternamine) to control the "head hunger"? Also has anyone used soy shakes (www.revivalsoy.com) to get their protein grams?Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Thanks-I agree. I think I may take it to help with these cravings. I feel like I am going insane for food. I truly miss the sensation of eating. I'm bored with the three or four things I am able to eat so the suppression would really help! Re: After Surgery //I wouldn't imagine taking the phenterimine would be ideal, however I am thinking about it! What about you? //Some Dr's prescribe it for their patients prior to their firs fill. I took it in the begining when I was really hungry. I don't see why you wouldn't use it if you relly need it. It is certainly better then cheating and eating food early.**This is just my opinion**7/18/05280/198/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Yes it is normal for people to not have restriction, everyone is different, how ever you should still be on liquids, at least full liquids which are just going to go through the band and it is hard to tell any restriciton at this point, unless you are one of the ones, who had a lot of swelling and stuff, just hang in there until your fill then you will know what restriction is. THis is the healing phase do not worry about the weight loss, i only lost 15 lbs my first six weeks. Tracie Bartek 248/200/150 DOB 6/24/05Keli <kjwright@...> wrote: Thanks fo ryour input on that! I was beginning to wonder if anyone had read this. Can I ask another question- I feel no restriction is that normal? I asked Nina also and am awaiting her reply. Keep in mind I am a couple weeks post surgery. After Surgery Just wondering if anyone post-op has taken Fastin (phenternamine) to control the "head hunger"? Also has anyone used soy shakes (www.revivalsoy.com) to get their protein grams?Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Thanks for answering. However, I am actually eating oatmeal and pudding and scrambeled eggs at near three weeks. One egg and a serving of oatmeal, I feel like I could eat more even though I dont becasue I know that is plenty. Is that normal? Alot of food? After Surgery Just wondering if anyone post-op has taken Fastin (phenternamine) to control the "head hunger"? Also has anyone used soy shakes (www.revivalsoy.com) to get their protein grams?Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 No not at this stage, it is not alot of food, compare it to what you use to eat prior to banding, I believe you are doing great Tracie Bartek 248/201.5Keli <kjwright@...> wrote: Thanks for answering. However, I am actually eating oatmeal and pudding and scrambeled eggs at near three weeks. One egg and a serving of oatmeal, I feel like I could eat more even though I dont becasue I know that is plenty. Is that normal? Alot of food? After Surgery Just wondering if anyone post-op has taken Fastin (phenternamine) to control the "head hunger"? Also has anyone used soy shakes (www.revivalsoy.com) to get their protein grams?Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Tracie K. Bartek (Dr. Aceves Lap-Band Dolls)DOB 6/24/05248/200/150 Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Hang in there and be positive. This surgery saved your life. Your recovery sounds pretty typical. Yes, they can do reconstruction. Chances of restoring a good bit of hearing is most likely pretty good. This is an awful process but one full of hope. You have a tremendous amount of understanding and support with this group. I can’t imagine having to deal with a cholesteatoma without it. You are in our prayers. From: cholesteatoma [mailto:cholesteatoma ] On Behalf Of polkadot_2005 Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:13 AM cholesteatoma Subject: After Surgery Hi all again, Well here it is a week and a day post op from my Tympanoplasty/Mastoidectomy. The pain has subsided somewhat just feels like a dull pain...sorta like a regular earache if there is such a thing..however everything still feels numb on my ear and surrounding area.Have some pain in my jaw which feels like a toothache. No...and I repeat no hearing at all, I go Monday for my post-op...Managed to wash my hair for the second time today with the help of my mom and daughter. We did fine...feels 100% better. Will keep you all informed as to what the Dr. says on Monday. I just wished this didn't have to happen and why me....is this a post op depression??????? Been asking myself why....was it necessary?? Why didn't someone tell me about the pain..?? Will it ever be back to normal??? Will I be able to hear....before surgery I had about 20% of my hearing now...nothing....just impatient here. Thanks for listening. Post later after the Dr. Appointment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 If I may encourage you some: Yes the surgery was necessary. The risks of allowing a Cholesteatoma to exist and grow, can become life threatening. That alone makes the surgery worth it. As for your hearing, well you only had 20 percent. You haven't lost much at all if you can't hear, besides you have packing in your ear with fluids and swelling. Healing takes a long, long time. You might notice some improvement 6 months from now. We all say, why me? That is normal. At least it has been discovered and you have a network of friends to deal with it. At least it isn't terminal and you can basically function normally. Yeah, sometimes you have to turn your head, you'll hear constant ringing in your ear, you have to be careful of water, and you might listen to things loudly and read lips. At least you still have one good ear, and they do make hearing aids and bone anchored aids. All is not lost! polkadot_2005 <mam@...> wrote: Hi all again,Well here it is a week and a day post op from my Tympanoplasty/Mastoidectomy. The pain has subsided somewhat just feels like a dull pain...sorta like a regular earache if there is such a thing..however everything still feels numb on my ear and surrounding area.Have some pain in my jaw which feels like a toothache. No...and I repeat no hearing at all, I go Monday for my post-op...Managed to wash my hair for the second time today with the help of my mom and daughter. We did fine...feels 100% better. Will keep you all informed as to what the Dr. says on Monday. I just wished this didn't have to happen and why me....is this a post op depression??????? Been asking myself why....was it necessary?? Why didn't someone tell me about the pain..?? Will it ever be back to normal??? Will I be able to hear....before surgery I had about 20% of my hearing now...nothing....just impatient here.Thanks for listening.Post later after the Dr. Appointment Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 >Your Dr. should let you know what restrictions and instructions you need to follow after surgery. Blood clots are a possible risk following any surgery, but you are at higher risk if you are immobile. Moving around doesn't cause blood clots. Jackie > I had surgery last Thursday - I have been out riding in the car > looking at IKE devastation, etc. - how careful do you need to be > during recovery - are blood clots, etc. a risk with ear surgery? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 >Your Dr. should let you know what restrictions and instructions you need to follow after surgery. Blood clots are a possible risk following any surgery, but you are at higher risk if you are immobile. Moving around doesn't cause blood clots. Jackie > I had surgery last Thursday - I have been out riding in the car > looking at IKE devastation, etc. - how careful do you need to be > during recovery - are blood clots, etc. a risk with ear surgery? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Our surgeon doesn't put activity restrictions on Chloe unless he is doing a prosthesis. He just lets her do what she feels up to doing. On 9/29/08, jackiekylekatelyn <sjcolwell@...> wrote: >Your Dr. should let you know what restrictions and instructions youneed to follow after surgery. Blood clots are a possible riskfollowing any surgery, but you are at higher risk if you are immobile. Moving around doesn't cause blood clots.Jackie> I had surgery last Thursday - I have been out riding in the car> looking at IKE devastation, etc. - how careful do you need to be> during recovery - are blood clots, etc. a risk with ear surgery? >------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Hi, Sometimes the hair loss doesn't happen until later--for me it was 3 months after the surgery--and for the lucky people the never have any hair loss. I will live with my hair loss vs being fat. I know that it will grow back in time and it doesn't worry me. And I have purchased a couple of wigs until my hair does grow back. Good luck and you will be so thrilled after the surgery is over. Remember the first month will be the most difficult, but it passes pretty quickly too. Keep asking questions that you will have. Suzanne In a message dated 2/2/2009 9:07:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, d.jacobs87@... writes: Hi,Take your meds with you. They will crush them for you and when you are able to take liquids after surgery, they will give them to you. They will crush them and put them in liquid for you.As for the hair loss, I can't say much about it. I have not experienced any hair loss.Good luck on your surgery. Take care On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:24 AM, katratz2001 <katratz2001 > wrote: I am having my sleeve done on the 7th. I have a couple of ? I have to take meds. how will I get those down and what about the hair loss I'm hearing so much about? Does it happen to everyone?thanks kathy Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Hi,Take your meds with you. They will crush them for you and when you are able to take liquids after surgery, they will give them to you. They will crush them and put them in liquid for you.As for the hair loss, I can't say much about it. I have not experienced any hair loss. Good luck on your surgery. Take careOn Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:24 AM, katratz2001 <katratz2001@...> wrote: I am having my sleeve done on the 7th. I have a couple of ? I have to take meds. how will I get those down and what about the hair loss I'm hearing so much about? Does it happen to everyone? thanks kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 > > > I am having my sleeve done on the 7th. I have a couple of ? I have to > > take meds. how will I get those down and what about the hair loss I'm > > hearing so much about? Does it happen to everyone? > > > > thanks kathy > > > > > >thanks for the info. i hope I don,t loose any hair. > kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Kat, Your hearing in the operated ear is probably still muffled because there is a deep plug in the ear that hasn't been removed yet. With regard to your hearing in the ear if further surgery is needed, hopefully you'll still be a candidate for wearing a hearing aid if it comes to that. My hearing aids make a world of difference. Matt klsh2304 wrote: > > > Hi. Had my cholesteatoma removed on July 31st and it was much more > difficult than originally thought. The surgeon told us that I have > very strange eustacian tubes and that he really didn't understand them > until he got in there. I've been told that before (that they are > strange) so no surprise but it took almost 3 hours, he had to remove > it around the ear bones, and I had to stay overnight in the hospital > due in part to needing oxygen after surgery and also needing > antibiotics through my iv. He had to rebuild part of my eardrum and > used some cartilidge to do that. Not sure where he got it from though. > > I've got lots of stitches behind my ear which come out tomorrow and > continue having intermittent pain - just like an ear infection hurts. > Also have some shooting pain that is gone as soon as I realize it's > there so I've done nothing about that. Was lucky to have very little > dizzziness and only nausea in the hospital. > > The surgeon told me that we have to watch it very carefully for the > next 2 years to make sure it doesn't start growing back because if it > does, he'll have to take everything out of the ear and I'll loose > hearing completely in that ear. > > So my question is, if it does grow back, aren't there other options > besides totally cleaning out my ear and loosing all hearing? Can't > they rebuild some of it so I have partial hearing? Also, am wondering > why the ear that had the cholesteatoma has very little hearing now 10 > days after surgery. It feels as though I'm packed inside with > something more than the cotton balls I am to keep in that ear to catch > the blood and liquid still draining. It scares me because my other ear > is also feeling plugged due to lots of pollen flying around and my > hearing has become very limited almost overnight. > > Any ideas or suggestions would be much appreciated. I had absolutely > no symptoms before the surgery, was a fluke they even caught it, and > one specialist I saw told me I could even postpone the surgery for > several years as he was sure it wasn't bad. Thank god I listened to my > ENT surgeon and decided to go ahead with him. You all helped me by > reading what you said about the surgery so thanks! > > Kat > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Matt, Thanks. Between your response and talking to the surgeon I am feeling much more confident about what I am experiencing and what the future holds. I certainly can live with a hearing aid - beats not being able to hear at all from this strange thing that developed in my body. It's not easy living with knowing there is nothing either the doctor or I can do to prevent it's regrowth (as he said, he is confident he got it all but all it takes is one little cell to start the regrowth). I have a new appreciation for all who have dealth with this for years. Thanks again for your help! Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I just had my explant surgery on March 23rd I am still very sore and I know thats to be expected.But this morning I woke up with both my eyes so swollen I look like I just came out of a boxing ring.Does anyone know what that might be from?I am a little concerned because it's now the afternoon and I am still pretty swollen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Well I just got home from seeing my doctor and I am officially tape free.I definetly didn't get any answers to my questions But was told that my scleraderma was the reason for my discolored implants.Unbelievable!Well anyway the doctor told me that my implants were disposed of,so finding out weather it was mold or fugus isn't going to happen.When I told him what I thought it was (mold),he told me he had never heard of that before in all his 30 years in practice. Wow!Anyway would a hair analisis be able to pick up whats in my system so I can be treated?I am about to start a total detox of all organs and a colon cleanse as well.I thought this doctor was going to be helpful but boy was I wrong.Blessings,Kass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had my explant surgery on March 23rd I am still very sore and I > > > > > > know thats to be expected.But this morning I woke up with both my eyes so > > > > > > swollen I look like I just came out of a boxing ring.Does anyone know what > > > > > > that might be from?I am a little concerned because it's now the afternoon > > > > > > and I am still pretty swollen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Kass,What I think becomes frustrating is that there are few who advocate for women regarding any of our issues. Plastic surgeons are not going to admit that a product that is a multi-billion dollar business annually causes problems....there may be a handful, but that is all. While I was very happy with Dr. Hansen's job and ability, her advocacy which I was promised didn't happen...the reason is simple, she CANNOT admit that the implants were damaged or toxic...what choices do we have? VERY FEW.I have no recourse against the implanting surgery it would seem as no attorney wants to handle it as of yet and one attorney told me that because I was part of the Dow Corning class action, the attorneys from that should have KNOWN from reviewing my doctor's file that KEFLIN had been injected into the implants and told me. I told the attorney, that MY KNOWLEDGE of this was as of December 2010, that Statute of Limitations is from when I HAD KNOWLEDGE...NOT someone else. He also told me that it would be difficult to go after the surgeon for doing this because he might have just felt it was part of protocol..so see, attorneys ALSO FAVOR PLASTIC SURGEONS...it's a very vicious circle.As to your implants/capsules being disposed of, they have only 24-48 hours to dispose of medical/bio hazardous waste.I think the old adage of "live and learn" pertains to many of us going through this journey.Breath deep, move forward, take care of you. Big hugs.Barbara, Winston & Yogi"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated" GandhiPeace & Kindness in 2011In loving memory of TIRAWAFrom: kassfisher70 <kassfisher70@...>Subject: Re: After surgery Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 1:58 PM Well I just got home from seeing my doctor and I am officially tape free.I definetly didn't get any answers to my questions But was told that my scleraderma was the reason for my discolored implants.Unbelievable!Well anyway the doctor told me that my implants were disposed of,so finding out weather it was mold or fugus isn't going to happen.When I told him what I thought it was (mold),he told me he had never heard of that before in all his 30 years in practice. Wow!Anyway would a hair analisis be able to pick up whats in my system so I can be treated?I am about to start a total detox of all organs and a colon cleanse as well.I thought this doctor was going to be helpful but boy was I wrong.Blessings,Kass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had my explant surgery on March 23rd I am still very sore and I > > > > > > know thats to be expected.But this morning I woke up with both my eyes so > > > > > > swollen I look like I just came out of a boxing ring.Does anyone know what > > > > > > that might be from?I am a little concerned because it's now the afternoon > > > > > > and I am still pretty swollen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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