Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Dear Code Blue and ALL, First of all these questions have come up on the PTCB board many times. I can tell you that PTCB has said the following but I would double check this out with PTCB: 1. The SAME test is given across the nation. 2. However the test questions MAY be arranged in a different order to prevent cheating. 3. There is NO change in the quanitity of questions (125) or the quantity of questions on a particular topic. It is considered balanced, by the item writers. I hope this helps you out. Again feel free to post your question on PTCB at http://www.ptcb.org Good Luck on your exam. Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chem Pharmacy Technician Educator Founder/Owner > Has anyone said about cert. testing,example Fla state at one site may > have more math,another site more terminalogy another site more of > something else does this hold true.Also the persoon next to you may > have the same test but question are in differ orderAnybody know?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 This went through. But my messages in response to ellenluba haven't made it. What is happening? > testing. messages not going through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 Is this a moderated list? > > testing. messages not going through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 Your messages seem to be going through, they're just reaching the group later than you expect. I don't know why this happens, but often messages will take hours to get to the list. Sometimes it only takes minutes. I'm not sure why there is a discrepancy. Just give it some time and don't assume your message disappeared unless it doesn't show up by the next day. If it doesn't show up by the next day, try sending it again. I hope that helps. Robynn -Owner [ ] Re: testing This went through. But my messages in response to ellenluba haven't made it. What is happening? > testing. messages not going through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 In a message dated 6/7/2003 6:04:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mariasp@... writes: > fainted > at the sight of his own blood in Jan and March, and, coming close > several times since. The first time I rushed him to ER thinking he had > some kind of seizure, but they said it was just a panic/trauma reaction > (the blood was practically non-visible it was such a small amount!), and > never did any brain tests. Perhaps he could be more susceptible to this > kind of reaction than others because of something in the brain? Would > you all recommend medical testing? I've got zilch support from Drs > hear, and they will only, MAYBE, refer what I insist on- certainly > nothing on their own initiative. > Hi , I have no advice on 's reaction but knowing what I know now, I would have gone to a neuropychologist that specializes in Autistic Spectrum AND that was highly regarded by the school district just to avoid their refusal of his or her recommendations. Wishing you well Johanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 In a message dated 6/7/03 9:04:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mariasp@... writes: > Perhaps he could be more susceptible to this > kind of reaction than others because of something in the brain? Would > you all recommend medical testing? I've got zilch support from Drs > hear, and they will only, MAYBE, refer what I insist on- certainly > nothing on their own initiative. > > in florida > Personally, I would not do this testing unless you have a good reason. I could be wrong but I don't think fainting at the sight of his own blood would mean he has a brain goober or anything. But, ask the doc and find out if you are worried! Roxanna ôô What doesn't kill us Makes us really mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Kinesiology is good for testing for food allergies/ intolerances; dosage guide; yeast problems etc etc It is the science of muscle testing the body to find out what it needs or needs to avoid. It is a complete holistic treatment to help resolve any health problems. Suitable for all ages and helps the body naturally heal. I have been using it to tell me how many enzymes of which sort and when best to take them. Re: I'm back Hi , No, it wasn't this group that acted high and mighty. As far as Auditory Processing, Ian is too young for any testing. They tell me I need to wait about 3-4 years. At this time, Ian's auditory awareness is increasing as his speech increases. The SLP did an ADOS eval (I believe that was the acronym). It apparently measures on a social behavior scale. I don't have the info in front of me. I agree that Ian is woefully lacking in social graces, so I am hoping that ABA or RDI will assist us in developing functional skills. Ian has made some great gains. He no longer has diarrhea! I think that was my main complaint when I was a member last year. I eliminated all juice for a period of 3 weeks and it cleared up, mostly. Since then, I have reduced the amount of juice and no longer give him high doses of C via Odwalla fruit shakes. I think that was the culprit. Both of my boys had periods of diarrhea at about the same stage of development. I am convinced that some of it was just plain old maturation needed to stop the diarrhea. My husband and I are seriously considering a move from our beautiful city by the ocean to Wisconsin. We have family there and ABA is available on a wider scale than in our area. Is anybody here a WI resident and utilizing Beckett or some other program? So, now what? I feel almost as confused as I was when Ian was 19 months old and Autism first appeared in our lives. Two docs (developmental pediatrician and psychologist) both ruled out autism when Ian was 25/26 months old. Now we are hearing it again from an experienced SLP. Another fire is being lit under my behind. I grew complacent... Thanks for the welcome back, . Pam > >>>> I was a member of this group and gfcf kids for about 1 year. I > > dropped off after a few instances of off-list complaints that I had > > no business being here since my child was not diagnosed with Autism. > > How ridiculous!!! > There are a bunch of people here with all sorts of diagnosis, or > multiple diagnosis, or no diagnosis but feel they would benefit, and > some really great members with no kids at all. I really hope it > wasn't from this group, but we don't need to get into details. > > > >>>> Well, I'm back. > > I am very glad. > > > >>>>The SLP strongly feels he falls on the spectrum. > > The point might be that he needs some additional assistance in some > areas. Hopefully some helpful ideas will pop up. > > > >>>>Although Ian continues to make gains in all areas, he remains > socially impaired and still about 18 months behind in language > development. > > I really don't like to create work for someone else, but Kelley > is an resident speech teacher and she might have some specific ideas > to target Ian's exact problem areas. > > Have you had any type of test for auditory processing? Hearing > ability and language are related. I know if too many people are > talking or there is too much noise, I can't figure out what is going > on, or what to answer to whom. We have noticed that my younger son > has some auditory needs as well. Sometimes he will get so overwhelmed > in school (i.e. all the sounds blur together)...but he teacher tells > me 'he isn't participating' or 'he doesn't contribute to group > discussions'. Just something to consider. > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Hello ! I'd like to hear how you have been doing. What supps, etc., have you been finding helpful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 has the management policy changed form banning me from posting? Looks like not, you seem to be coming in fine Andy. I certainly would not like to see you gone from this forum because I am hoping over the next month or so to engage you about certain critical issues that are important for the future in terms of detoxification and chelation protocols. After just reading Karin's letter I see there are emotions flying around some key points and we eventually need to get beyond that to the facts and to what in reality really works and what really works best. I hope you are open to exploring new possibilities.................... Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 > Mark, > I think you're confusing Andys. could you enlighten me? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Mark, I think you're confusing Andys. S <tt> <BR> has the management policy changed form banning me from posting?<BR> <BR> <BR> Looks like not, you seem to be coming in fine Andy. I certainly would not<BR> like to see you gone from this forum because I am hoping over the next month<BR> or so to engage you about certain critical issues that are important for the<BR> future in terms of detoxification and chelation protocols.<BR> <BR> After just reading Karin's letter I see there are emotions flying around<BR> some key points and we eventually need to get beyond that to the facts and<BR> to what in reality really works and what really works best.<BR> <BR> I hope you are open to exploring new possibilities....................<BR> <BR> Mark<BR> <BR> </tt> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Well, I'm not , but I can enlighten you. There's an " " , (I think he's from New Zealand?) and then there's Andy, who we all know. Sharon -- Re: [ ] testing > Mark, > I think you're confusing Andys. could you enlighten me? Mark ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 I can enlighten everyone. Mark met " andrew " on the adult metal chelation board. I suspect that Mark asked " andrew " to join this board. In Mark's post below (the second of the " testing " series) he is talking to " andrew " (but calling him " Andy " ) and telling us all that he is hoping to engage " andrew " on this board. > Well, I'm not , but I can enlighten you. There's an " " , (I think > he's from New Zealand?) and then there's Andy, who we all know. > Sharon > > > -- Re: [ ] testing > > > > Mark, > > I think you're confusing Andys. > > could you enlighten me? > > Mark has the management policy changed form banning me from posting? Looks like not, you seem to be coming in fine Andy. I certainly would not like to see you gone from this forum because I am hoping over the next month or so to engage you about certain critical issues that are important for the future in terms of detoxification and chelation protocols. After just reading Karin's letter I see there are emotions flying around some key points and we eventually need to get beyond that to the facts and to what in reality really works and what really works best. I hope you are open to exploring new possibilities.................... Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 tasmania australia but orginally form new zealand but andy cutler seems unable to cope with me posting so until i hear otherwise from him or moria i won't post theres really schismic differences of view on chelation and the inherent toxicity of mobilsed mercury regardless of how frequent the dosing my message board who_knows/ andy is not banned form my message board btw, i can cope with him, he is welcome to post and address some of the points i raise, since i am not free to post here on the inherent toxicty of chelation and parental supplementation errors > Well, I'm not , but I can enlighten you. There's an " " , (I think > he's from New Zealand?) and then there's Andy, who we all know. > Sharon > > > -- Re: [ ] testing > > > > Mark, > > I think you're confusing Andys. > > could you enlighten me? > > Mark > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Margie, At what point in the chelation cycle do you perform the urine and fecal tests? Our one attempt on first morning urine of day 2 showed nothing! - an expensive flop!! Thanks, From: " margie23230 " <b.flynn1@c...> Date: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:41 pm Subject: Thallium toxicity We have been chelating my 3 year old son for almost 7 months and getting urine and fecal testing done every 2 months. We are starting to pull very elevated amounts of mercury along very high thallium into red zone on urine and fecal. We have been pulling thallium for 4 months now. Obviously DMPS chelates it well, but wondering why so much thallium for such a long time. It has both my Dr. and myself stumped. Anyone have any inut on thallium? Margie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 We are doing TD-DMPS. Every 2 months we give him a double dose and start collecting urine 1 hour after applying TD-DMPS for 6 hours. I collect the follwing BM after application. I have found that the next day BM doesn't show as much as collecting the same day. The last one I collected only 3 hours after the challenge and it showed mercury in the upper yellow range in fecal testing. Could be he is excreting more as time goes on or I'm not sure if we just caught a better sample due to timing. Initially all mercury was found in urine and just a small amount in fecal. Now that has flipped and most is found in fecal and just elevated green in urine. Hope this helps. Margie > > > Margie, > At what point in the chelation cycle do you perform the urine and > fecal tests? Our one attempt on first morning urine of day 2 showed > nothing! - an expensive flop!! Thanks, > > > > From: " margie23230 " <b.flynn1@c...> > Date: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:41 pm > Subject: Thallium toxicity > > > We have been chelating my 3 year old son for almost 7 months and > getting urine and fecal testing done every 2 months. We are starting > to pull very elevated amounts of mercury along very high thallium > into red zone on urine and fecal. We have been pulling thallium for > 4 months now. Obviously DMPS chelates it well, but wondering why so > much thallium for such a long time. It has both my Dr. and myself > stumped. Anyone have any inut on thallium? > Margie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Thanks Margie. I'll try closer to the onset. From: " margie23230 " <b.flynn1@c...> Date: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:39 pm Subject: Re: testing We are doing TD-DMPS. Every 2 months we give him a double dose and start collecting urine 1 hour after applying TD-DMPS for 6 hours. I collect the follwing BM after application. I have found that the next day BM doesn't show as much as collecting the same day. The last one I collected only 3 hours after the challenge and it showed mercury in the upper yellow range in fecal testing. Could be he is excreting more as time goes on or I'm not sure if we just caught a better sample due to timing. Initially all mercury was found in urine and just a small amount in fecal. Now that has flipped and most is found in fecal and just elevated green in urine. Hope this helps. Margie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Hi all, interesting blurb on lyme/testing at this site... http://www.drcharlescrist.com/testing.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 How long before the test should you not apply AG? I understand it is in your system for 24 hours. I'm scheduled to be tested at 4:00 pm, I usually apply in the morning. If I don't apply the morning of the test, it will have been more than 24 hours. -Dan > As for testing my levels, I found anytest.com in Atlanta. They will > run tests on a cash basis without Doc's orders. So I spent 7 hrs. in > the car and $60 to find out I was at 450 ng/dl using 5 gram / day. > That's when I went up to 7.5 grams. As Phil said, don't rub AG on > your arms when you get tested - that showed me at 680 ng/dl on the > same 5 gram/day schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 If you go by the chart in the AG drug insert as an average, supposedly after 2 hours you peak, then you level off at 4 hours for a flat T level during hours 4 to 24. I still don't quite buy that since the half life of free T is 10 - 100 minutes. I am guessing your normal morning routine will work on test day for a good " average " test if the clinical data is similar to your own response. > > As for testing my levels, I found anytest.com in Atlanta. They will > > run tests on a cash basis without Doc's orders. So I spent 7 hrs. in > > the car and $60 to find out I was at 450 ng/dl using 5 gram / day. > > That's when I went up to 7.5 grams. As Phil said, don't rub AG on > > your arms when you get tested - that showed me at 680 ng/dl on the > > same 5 gram/day schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dan put it on in the morning but make sure you don't get it on the spot that the niddle for the blood test goes. Phil " opus1.rm " <no_reply > wrote: How long before the test should you not apply AG? I understand it is in your system for 24 hours. I'm scheduled to be tested at 4:00 pm, I usually apply in the morning. If I don't apply the morning of the test, it will have been more than 24 hours. -Dan > As for testing my levels, I found anytest.com in Atlanta. They will > run tests on a cash basis without Doc's orders. So I spent 7 hrs. in > the car and $60 to find out I was at 450 ng/dl using 5 gram / day. > That's when I went up to 7.5 grams. As Phil said, don't rub AG on > your arms when you get tested - that showed me at 680 ng/dl on the > same 5 gram/day schedule. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Hi The recommended time for hormone testing especially Testosterone is morning ca 9AM. If one is testing Cortisol certain Thyroid levels then it may well be suggested to have a more than one test in a day to monitor changes. Regards, _________________________________________ Randle _________________________________________ Re: Testing > How long before the test should you not apply AG? I understand it is > in your system for 24 hours. I'm scheduled to be tested at 4:00 pm, I > usually apply in the morning. If I don't apply the morning of the > test, it will have been more than 24 hours. -Dan > > > >> As for testing my levels, I found anytest.com in Atlanta. They will >> run tests on a cash basis without Doc's orders. So I spent 7 hrs. in >> the car and $60 to find out I was at 450 ng/dl using 5 gram / day. >> That's when I went up to 7.5 grams. As Phil said, don't rub AG on >> your arms when you get tested - that showed me at 680 ng/dl on the >> same 5 gram/day schedule. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Hi you are right but he is on TRT the gels and ones levels stay about the same all day long on TRT. Phil Randle <peter_randle@...> wrote: Hi The recommended time for hormone testing especially Testosterone is morning ca 9AM. If one is testing Cortisol certain Thyroid levels then it may well be suggested to have a more than one test in a day to monitor changes. Regards, _________________________________________ Randle _________________________________________ Re: Testing > How long before the test should you not apply AG? I understand it is > in your system for 24 hours. I'm scheduled to be tested at 4:00 pm, I > usually apply in the morning. If I don't apply the morning of the > test, it will have been more than 24 hours. -Dan > > > >> As for testing my levels, I found anytest.com in Atlanta. They will >> run tests on a cash basis without Doc's orders. So I spent 7 hrs. in >> the car and $60 to find out I was at 450 ng/dl using 5 gram / day. >> That's when I went up to 7.5 grams. As Phil said, don't rub AG on >> your arms when you get tested - that showed me at 680 ng/dl on the >> same 5 gram/day schedule. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Hi Phil Thanks for your reply. Can I trouble you for a reference with lab results showing that T does not alter during the day? The blood testing is of particular interest and I have not found a published paper yet with results. I know others have asked about exercise and T levels and I have just found this 2001 paper - abstract enclosed: Abstract: Abstract Circadian rhythms of serum testosterone concentrations in men have been shown, in general, to be highest in the morning and lowest in the evening. Thus, the purpose of this investigation was to determine the effects of acute resistance exercise upon the waking circadian rhythm of salivary testosterone over 2 days (with or without resistance exercise). The subjects included ten resistance-trained men (with at least 1 year of lifting experience) with the following characteristics [mean (SD)]: age 21.6 (1.1) years; height 177.8 (9.5) cm; body mass 80.5 (11.5) kg; percent body fat 7.9 (1.7)%. A matched, randomized, crossover study design was used such that each subject was tested under both the resistance exercise and control (no exercise) conditions. The resistance exercise protocol consisted of ten exercises performed for three sets of ten repetitions maximum with 2 min of rest between sets. Saliva sample 1 was collected at 0615 hours and resistance exercise began immediately afterwards at approximately 0620 hours, and sample 2 was collected at 0700 hours, which corresponded approximately to a mid-exercise (or control) time point. Saliva samples were then obtained every hour on the hour from 0800 hours until 2200 hours. No significant differences were observed between the exercise and resting conditions for salivary testosterone, with the exception of a significant decrease at 0700 hours during the resistance exercise protocol. The results of this investigation indicate that resistance exercise does not affect the circadian pattern of salivary testosterone secretion over a 16-h waking period in resistance-trained men. http://www.springerlink.com/app/home/contribution.asp?wasp=f2f214d0b8a4477a81d65\ 2c4a42329ce & referrer=parent & backto=issue,3,27;journal,47,98;linkingpublicationre\ sults,1:100513,1 Best wishes _________________________________________ Randle _________________________________________ Re: Testing > > >> How long before the test should you not apply AG? I understand it is >> in your system for 24 hours. I'm scheduled to be tested at 4:00 pm, I >> usually apply in the morning. If I don't apply the morning of the >> test, it will have been more than 24 hours. -Dan >> >> >> >>> As for testing my levels, I found anytest.com in Atlanta. They will >>> run tests on a cash basis without Doc's orders. So I spent 7 hrs. in >>> the car and $60 to find out I was at 450 ng/dl using 5 gram / day. >>> That's when I went up to 7.5 grams. As Phil said, don't rub AG on >>> your arms when you get tested - that showed me at 680 ng/dl on the >>> same 5 gram/day schedule. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Addendum: Hi Phil I have found one possible paper but have to get permission to read online. of Three Different Doses of a New Formulation of Oral Testosterone Undecanoate, Andriol Testocaps NS Houwing, F Maris, PG Schnabel, WM Bagchus - Pharmacotherapy - extenza-eps.com, 2003 .... area under the serum concentration-time curve from 0 ... dose (at 12 hrs; Figure 2). Testosterone undecanoate returned to baseline levels just before ... ncbi.nlm.nih.gov _________________________________________ Randle _________________________________________ Re: Testing > > >> How long before the test should you not apply AG? I understand it is >> in your system for 24 hours. I'm scheduled to be tested at 4:00 pm, I >> usually apply in the morning. If I don't apply the morning of the >> test, it will have been more than 24 hours. -Dan >> >> >> >>> As for testing my levels, I found anytest.com in Atlanta. They will >>> run tests on a cash basis without Doc's orders. So I spent 7 hrs. in >>> the car and $60 to find out I was at 450 ng/dl using 5 gram / day. >>> That's when I went up to 7.5 grams. As Phil said, don't rub AG on >>> your arms when you get tested - that showed me at 680 ng/dl on the >>> same 5 gram/day schedule. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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