Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Hi, I was wondering if anyone in the group had disrupted or damaged their staple line and if so what are the symptoms? I am misserable guys. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Liz -110 lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 In a message dated 8/14/02 1:38:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rhooks@... writes: > A staple line disruption is more associated with the VBG than the RNY > and BPD/DS. Where do you get this information from? I am a distal gastric bypass surgery (RNY) and I had a staple line disruption and I am 6 1/2 years out. I had this at 2 years out. I know Vitalady also had one. They then transsected my stomach during the revision. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 I am a distal RNY and had a staple line disruption at 4 months post op.. so I dont agree with you that staple line disruptions are more common with VBG>. I know too many folks who have undergone revisions to repair a staple line disruption that were RNY patients. hugs, from GA open RNY 12/12/00 Revision 04/18/01 Revision 02/07/02 St wt.... 392 Cw........198 Wt loss..-194 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 I am a medial RNY and had a Staple line disruption also. So I do not understand why Ray said this either. I have never heard those statistics. Debbie in Gig Harbor ladybostons@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 RNYs are done different, some surgeons just staple the stomach to the measured ounces, some surgeons completely transection the stomach like mine does, so SLD are rare with the type of procedures. Maybe that's what he was referring too. It is hard to make a blanket statement like that though because every surgeon does do his procedure different. RE: Staple line disruption > > I am a medial RNY and had a Staple line disruption also. So I do not > understand why Ray said this either. I have never heard those > statistics. > > Debbie in Gig Harbor > ladybostons@... > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 I aksed my surgeon about the subject of SLD. He advised me that those of us who have had the transected RNY do not have to worry abot this. It is the older procedures that this is more likely to happen to. Robina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 In a message dated 8/15/2002 3:05:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Graduate-OSSG writes: > A staple line disruption is more associated with the VBG than the RNY > and BPD/DS. ********************************** Ray, I've never heard of anyone with a VBG having a SLD, although that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Usually, I've heard it's a problem with the ring shifting, disintegrating, etc., or the patient just eating whatever they want (ice cream, milkshakes, etc.). The SLD's I've seen are always RNY's. I discovered mine at 6 months out, then transected a year after original surgery (the delay due to changing insurance cos.). in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 In a message dated 8/15/2002 3:05:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Graduate-OSSG writes: > I aksed my surgeon about the subject of SLD. He advised me that those of us > who have had the transected RNY do not have to worry abot this. It is the > older procedures that this is more likely to happen to. > > Robina > ******************************************* Unfortunately, many surgeons still do not transect, possibly even as many as half the surgeons now performing RNY's, so it is not just the " older " surgeries. in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 > RNYs are done different, some surgeons just staple the stomach to the > measured ounces, some surgeons completely transection the stomach like mine > does, so SLD are rare with the type of procedures. Mine is transected too. I'm thinking a staple line disruption for me would mean food and everything leaking into my whole body cavity, and I'd be pretty sick! I've never heard of it in transected people -- no, let me qualify that -- I heard of one, but she died within minutes. So I think what people are talking about here is a completely different thing. ~~ Lyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 > RNYs are done different, some surgeons just staple the stomach to the > measured ounces, some surgeons completely transection the stomach like mine > does, so SLD are rare with the type of procedures. Mine is transected too. I'm thinking a staple line disruption for me would mean food and everything leaking into my whole body cavity, and I'd be pretty sick! I've never heard of it in transected people -- no, let me qualify that -- I heard of one, but she died within minutes. So I think what people are talking about here is a completely different thing. ~~ Lyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 I had open RNY in Dec 2000 and had a staple line disruption and my revision to repair that was April 2001.. Hugs, from GA open RNY 12/12/00 Revision 04/18/01 Revision 02/07/02 St wt.... 392 Cw........198 Wt loss..-194 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 > Here are my comments: > > Your Link: http://home.klbk.com/Global/story.asp?S=889277 > > My interpretation: This is a Lubbock TV station news story reporting on a > doctor and a hospital where 5 patients had severe complications after weight > loss surgery and were hospitalized, and one died. The hospital is NOT > commenting on this story. The doctor is not commenting on this story. No > information is given here to support your claims or the information in your > post. You evidently did not read where it states: " The four patients who suffered complications all underwent laproscopy. In all four cases, the stomach began to leak after the surgery, which leads to a very deadly infection in the abdomen. " The other three links do not contain the same degree of detail as the first, but obviously refer to the same set of circumstances. " (T)he stomach began to leak after the surgery " sounds pretty straight forward and factual to me. No staph infection incident here, as you suggest there might have been. It is fairly debatable though whether this type of immediate post op incident should be considered a staple line disruption or considered a leak. Also the " great calcium debate " was not really much of a debate. I asserted that a label statement that " Calcium citrate 1000 mg 100% DV " is a non sequitur because there is no FDA DV for " calcium citrate, " as opposed to " calcium " , " calcium (citrate) " or " calcium, as citrate " . No one has come forward to say otherwise, nor is anyone likely to. When the quantitative analysis of the amount of calcium per capsule has been completed and the results given to me, I will post the results to this group and make available a copy of the report to anyone who asks for it. Ray Hooks For WLS nutrition info, visit http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 > > You evidently did not read where it states: > > " The four patients who suffered complications all underwent laproscopy. In all four cases, the stomach began to leak after the surgery, which leads to a very deadly infection in the abdomen. " The other three links do not contain the same degree of detail as the first, but obviously refer to the same set of circumstances. " (T)he stomach began to leak after the surgery " sounds pretty straight > forward and factual to me. No staph infection incident here, as you > suggest there might have been. ***************************************************************** Okie dokie Ray - I'm feeling froggy. Let's see if you get it. The thread was SLD/RNY/VBG/Transecting. You're really stretching it this time to cite local news stations and a local newspaper to try to support your OPINION on the above. So, you have inside information on DIAGNOSED SLD with regard to this story? A stomach can leak for a number of reasons, not just SLD (if that IS the case - which you do NOT know it to be). You are ASSUMING a lot - and potentially doing a disservice to our members and lurkers in the process. It appears you are psychic and have MORE information than 3 Lubbock News Stations and one Lubbock newpaper. What an investigative reporter you could be. The hospital's not talking. The doctor's not talking. The patients aren't talking. No one's talking. Just because ONE news station references leaks doesn't mean squat - but apparently to you it does. Again, Ray, you have NO FACTS HERE - only an OPINION and your ASSUMPTIONS with regard to the news story. Medical data, Ray - it speaks volumes. Bobbie Anchorage Open Proximal RNY 5-11-01 Then: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Well, not quite enough. DITTO Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Re: Staple Line Disruption > > > > BE CAREFULL OF WHAT? What dod you do to avoid getting sld? How do > > you know you have it besides eating more? > > > > Zoe > ******************************* > The symptoms vary from person to person. I had no other signs, > really, but had acid reflux and associated pains again. My > only gripe with my original surgeon, whom I love, is that he still > doesn't transect, nor do many others who have done thousands of these > surgeries. I just don't get it. > > But, for those pre-ops or newbies who have or will have transected > stomachs, if you are going to have a SLD, it will almost always occur > immediately after surgery. When the stomach tissue is cut (as > opposed to just stapled or stitched), scar tissue begins to form > immediately to heal the trauma, just like when you cut your finger. > That's why SLD's with transected stomachs happen during or right > after surgery. I'm just explaining this to allay the fears of > newbies who might be scared & can't yet post. > > As for SLD's on those further out, DON'T buy into that crap when > doctor's say it's your fault if the staple line blows. It's NOT!!! > It's a mechanical failure. One surgeon explained to me that > sometimes the stomach tissue just rejects the staples. Think about > it, the body is doing what it's supposed to by rejecting foreign > objects. Unfortunately, many people live for years blaming > themselves for a regain, never even thinking it could be mechanical > because of the bullsh*t some surgeons lay on us about being a failure. > > Anyway, nuff said. > > in NJ > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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