Question?

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In a message dated 11/18/2005 9:38:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

angel_lts@... writes:

Thank you Tracey and

I do see that when I give her foods with potassium in it, that the

tics ease up alot. But hours later they start up again. But I know

that she is still bleeding so I believe that is why. I do believe

that she is going to have to eat the potassium every so many hours

in order to keep this from getting too low and causing so many tics.

As for the calcium, I have never heard of that. But I will keep

that in mind if this doesnt stop soon.

thanks

Read the book Excitoxins by Blaylock, MD

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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Thanks Marilyn

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/18/2005 9:38:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> angel_lts@y... writes:

>

> Thank you Tracey and

> I do see that when I give her foods with potassium in it, that

the

> tics ease up alot. But hours later they start up again. But I

know

> that she is still bleeding so I believe that is why. I do believe

> that she is going to have to eat the potassium every so many hours

> in order to keep this from getting too low and causing so many

tics.

>

> As for the calcium, I have never heard of that. But I will keep

> that in mind if this doesnt stop soon.

>

> thanks

>

>

>

> Read the book Excitoxins by Blaylock, MD

>

> mjh

> " The Basil Book "

> http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rose,

My son was diagnosed as Autistic Spectrum Disorder first and his secondary

is Aspergers. Actually according to my doctor (Ped Neuro U of Chic) said

that a dx of AS without Autistic Spectrum disorder being first makes a

difference to the Insurance companies and the schools as far as getting

services paid for and provided. Honestly I don't care one way or the other

what my sons diagnosis is as long as I make sure he gets all the services he

needs. I totally wasn't offended by your question and think the diagnosis is

not as important as the services. Just my thoughts, Ann

( ) Question?

After reading from this group for the past week or two. their seems

to be lots of concerns with the Diagnosis. about HFA, AS, PDDNOS,

ADHD, High fuction & autism.

Are people trying to understand each DX for curiosity? or does one

diagnosis get better service for our children than another DX would.

or, does having a certern diagnosis mean a child is more higher

functioning (normal) than the others listed.

I hope the wording of my question didn't offend anyone. Just wanted

to know if it makes a difference with a DX for they type of service

our children gets? thank you all - Rose

[Guest guest]

Dear Ann,

thanks for the clarification! My son was diagnosed the same as your son. He

is doing much better as time goes on with the services he has been getting. He

was in early interventions at 18 months old and still receives services. I also

don't care what they want to call it. As long as he can get the right help he

needs. And that it works. thanks for responding. Now I understand why

everybody was asking so many questions about each diagnose. (spectrum). - Rose

Easter Seals <easterseals@...> wrote:

Rose,

My son was diagnosed as Autistic Spectrum Disorder first and his secondary

is Aspergers. Actually according to my doctor (Ped Neuro U of Chic) said

that a dx of AS without Autistic Spectrum disorder being first makes a

difference to the Insurance companies and the schools as far as getting

services paid for and provided. Honestly I don't care one way or the other

what my sons diagnosis is as long as I make sure he gets all the services he

needs. I totally wasn't offended by your question and think the diagnosis is

not as important as the services. Just my thoughts, Ann

( ) Question?

After reading from this group for the past week or two. their seems

to be lots of concerns with the Diagnosis. about HFA, AS, PDDNOS,

ADHD, High fuction & autism.

Are people trying to understand each DX for curiosity? or does one

diagnosis get better service for our children than another DX would.

or, does having a certern diagnosis mean a child is more higher

functioning (normal) than the others listed.

I hope the wording of my question didn't offend anyone. Just wanted

to know if it makes a difference with a DX for they type of service

our children gets? thank you all - Rose

[Guest guest]

Actually your question to the group but that is okay as we all would love to

help you.

For years I was tested for numerous things because I would get dizzy and have

balance problems. When they couldn't find anything they just blamed it on

anxiety.

When I got my candia under control my dizzyness and balance issues went away.

Most of them within the first two months but everyone is different.

As bizarre as the fuzz in your ear story is..........I believe it! :0 It

affected my hearing as well and I was always saying what? what? Even though

when they would test me they said I had better than average hearing. They were

sitting on the fence about Menieres as well because they didn't know what it

was.

Get on the diet and if you drink diet soda or anythign with aspartame get off of

it immediately. That crap will cause a host of problems as well.

Let us know what happens

Jeanne otn

[Guest guest]

..5 cc is not a small fill at this stage! It's good to have fluids

only for 24 hrs after a fill, to allow the stoma to rest and heal.

This avoids extra irritation and trauma from the fill, especially if

the fill is put in and withdrawn.

Are you saying he fills the band to it's capacity and then

withdraws?? When does he stop withdrawing? How can he tell without a

fluoro?

At any rate, no matter what he does, you need to wait several weeks

before you can tell how the fill is and your loss after it.

It's easy to lose some of the fill if the fill person does not use a

stop-cock. Especially with larger fills, the fill is under pressure,

and easily backs up into the syringe, and when the needle is

withdrawn. Yes, you can surely end up with less fill than when you

went in, this way. -

I don't believe that a fill " kicks in later " , although I used to.

There is absolutely no physiological reason why this might be so.

When a fill is given, it is there - it doesn't hide somewhere and

jump out 2 weeks later! :-)

It may SEEM to not take effect until later, but I believe this has

more to do with eating choices and habits then.

Sandy R

-- In , " mom1960cq " <mom1960cq@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi All,

> Had my 4th fill today. I seemed a little too tight last fill which

> was back in November. It let up since, so I asked for a small fill

> today. Went from 6.5 to 7 supposedly. Anyway, when I got home I

was

> very hungry and was able to eat what I thought seemed like too much

> for just having a fill. The doc had a little trouble finding the

port

> and poked 3-4 times. When he filled all the way I didn't seem to

feel

> the pressure I normally do. His routine is to fill all the way and

> then withdraw. Is there ever an instance when the saline did not

go

> in or just part of it did? I almost feel like he took some out

> instead of putting it in. I know that sometimes a fill kicks in a

> little later and I'm hoping that's what will happen. He seems to

> avoid flouro. How long do I wait?

>

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Sandy,

Yes he fills to capacity and then withdraws. I guess he uses the

math to total up to 10 and then leaves in the difference? Do you

know other fill docs that do it this way? I've heard that the only

other band doc in the area also does this. As I said he really

doesn't like to do fluoro. My first 2 fills were done under fluoro

because he had poked me about 10 times and couldn't get the right

spot. What is a stop-cock? I know that when he does find the port

he lets go of the syringe, does something else like maybe double

checks the #'s? while its kind of just standing sraight out of my

stomach and then comes back and fills to capacity and withdraws. It

seems logical to me that a fill would take effect immediately, too.

I guess thats why I was concerned about how hungry I was an hr after

and how much I was munching. This morning does seem tighter, but of

course my appetite doesn't really pick up till after noon. Thank

you for all your advise.

Carol

> >

> > Hi All,

> > Had my 4th fill today. I seemed a little too tight last fill

which

> > was back in November. It let up since, so I asked for a small

fill

> > today. Went from 6.5 to 7 supposedly. Anyway, when I got home

I

> was

> > very hungry and was able to eat what I thought seemed like too

much

> > for just having a fill. The doc had a little trouble finding

the

> port

> > and poked 3-4 times. When he filled all the way I didn't seem

to

> feel

> > the pressure I normally do. His routine is to fill all the way

and

> > then withdraw. Is there ever an instance when the saline did

not

> go

> > in or just part of it did? I almost feel like he took some out

> > instead of putting it in. I know that sometimes a fill kicks in

a

> > little later and I'm hoping that's what will happen. He seems

to

> > avoid flouro. How long do I wait?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know of any others who do this. to me, it makes no sense,

becuase the " most " fill a band can hold is not a set amount, by any

means. for instance, the " 4 " cc band is suggested to have a max of 4

cc, but it actually can amd does hold much more if needed.

It's not the the 4 cc automatically closes off the band entirly, or

anytghing.

With the VG band, it actually holds much more than 10 cc if needed,

and one can be compeltely closed off at 5 cc, 7 cc, 9.99 cc or any

amount in between, depending on may individual variables. So, to me,

adding that much fill and then withdrawing it only adds extra trauma

to the stoma. my opinion only. You might ask him about this It is not

taught in the Inamed taining, for sure. He hay have a good rason, or

a new study he is using as a guideline. I don't know.

A stop-cock is a safeguard placed between the needle and the syringe.

It has a valve in it that can be closed off. Many fill peiople juse

these to be certain no fluid is lost, and to more carefully add

fluid.

Fluoroscopy is also used before a fill to locate a port; this is not

what i mean by using fluoro (with a barium swallow) to zassess a fill

after it is given. to do that, you drink some barium which shows up

on the x-ray, and one can clearly see how fast the barium is going

through the stoma. An experienced fill person can correlate this

speed with how fast chewed food will likely go through the stoma.

At any rate, give this fill a few weeks. You can safely get more fill

in a month, if needed. Sandy R

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > > Had my 4th fill today. I seemed a little too tight last fill

> which

> > > was back in November. It let up since, so I asked for a small

> fill

> > > today. Went from 6.5 to 7 supposedly. Anyway, when I got home

> I

> > was

> > > very hungry and was able to eat what I thought seemed like too

> much

> > > for just having a fill. The doc had a little trouble finding

> the

> > port

> > > and poked 3-4 times. When he filled all the way I didn't seem

> to

> > feel

> > > the pressure I normally do. His routine is to fill all the way

> and

> > > then withdraw. Is there ever an instance when the saline did

> not

> > go

> > > in or just part of it did? I almost feel like he took some out

> > > instead of putting it in. I know that sometimes a fill kicks

in

> a

> > > little later and I'm hoping that's what will happen. He seems

> to

> > > avoid flouro. How long do I wait?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

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If you " edit membership " you can elect to get daily digests instead of

individual e-mail messages. This group can fill up a box in no time!

Shirley

>From: " Murray " <tadadzn@...>

>I do have a problem with the total number of emails. Is there any way to

>get them into a single >email? I know that another group called healing

>crow is a group and their emails come in on >one group email a day.

>Is this a possibility?

>

>

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Yes, this is possible. You can go into your group

settings, and instead of individual emails choose

" daily digest " .

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Murray <tadadzn@...> wrote:

> I love this group. I have learned so much. Thank

> you. I do have a problem with the total number of

> emails. Is there any way to get them into a single

> email? I know that another group called healing

> crow is a group and their emails come in on

> one group email a day. Is this a possibility?

>

>

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

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[Guest guest]

i don't know, but it looks like your liver might not be trying hard to deal

with the virus? if so, that might no be a good sign.

what do you mean specifically re the biopsy 2.5 to 1 ?

i don't have my brain organized to understand lab figures yet. also don't

understand the interactions of how what they measure. i'll be getting more

into that after i get my next results back. haven't been tested since 2004,

never biopsied yet. think i'll skip the biopsy if my viral count & enzymes

are low this time since i feel so good these days with the CS.

you've already heard my recommendation for knocking down the viral load &

holding it down.

cheers,

bobL

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homepage: http://www.toad.net/~blarson/

> question?

>

>

> how can my liver enzymes be normal, my biop go from 2nhalf to one

> (reverse) but my viral load has always been sky rocket? I'm confused!!!

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Bob....... last biop I had back in 02 stage of damage (fibrosis) was at grade 2

1/2, My 2nd biop 06 grade 1, so it seems to me that either one is wrong or

liver is healing itself but yet my viral load has stayed way high, in fact 10/04

I was told viral load was like way over the top off charts? from my

understanding grade 4 fibrosis is start of cirrosis so maybe viral load has

nothing to do with damage to liver HECK I DON " T KNOW? what I do know is that you

are brave to take this silver cause had I known side effects I would endure

during tx I would of not gone thru it! but thanks for the input: Iza chicken to

b a guinny pig ! VERA

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote: i don't know, but it looks

like your liver might not be trying hard to deal

with the virus? if so, that might no be a good sign.

what do you mean specifically re the biopsy 2.5 to 1 ?

i don't have my brain organized to understand lab figures yet. also don't

understand the interactions of how what they measure. i'll be getting more

into that after i get my next results back. haven't been tested since 2004,

never biopsied yet. think i'll skip the biopsy if my viral count & enzymes

are low this time since i feel so good these days with the CS.

you've already heard my recommendation for knocking down the viral load &

holding it down.

cheers,

bobL

myspace: http://www.myspace.com/bob021147

ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/bobLs-fine-flotsam

homepage: http://www.toad.net/~blarson/

> question?

>

>

> how can my liver enzymes be normal, my biop go from 2nhalf to one

> (reverse) but my viral load has always been sky rocket? I'm confused!!!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yep, confusing.

way high viral count in my mind would certainly go along with liver being

damaged but you could have some body defenses protecting it, as well as

regenerating it, seems possible enough especially if you're using some

alternative treatments intended for such a thing & they're working. it's

also possible that your liver isn't working like it should in response to

the virus. i don't know. i dod know it makes sense to eliminate as much of

the virus faster than they replicate as possible by any means safe &

effective. ask your docs, & make them talk sense not commands. record the

conversation telling them you want to be able to review what they say with

others to aid in your understanding. they might be mmore willing to speak

intelligently knowing they're being recorded.

it's also possible that the two biopsys getting samples from different

places are inconsistent because the damage isn't evenly distributed,

although it's been said in what i've read that the biopsy is a good

indicator of the average state of things.

there are herbs & foods that can help the liver a lot for both protection &

regeneration. a real good book is:

Herbs for hepatitis C and the liver

Buhner, Harrod.

the silver is not to be feared, from what i've found. search the net and

try to find a down side even close to the risks of the conventional tx

options. if you find any, please point me to them as i want to know if they

exist. my guess is i've sen them already & can explain how they're

irrelevant to the cheap & easy CS available if used with a modicum of care &

discipline. to start with, www.quackwatch.com on CS can readily be

dismissed & if needbe i'll take it on point for point upon request, but

it'll take some time & work for me...once done, i'll make more use of the

result to hopefully make the effort of wider value. all the docs can tell

you from theliterature & findings so far is the CS hasn't been shown to be

safe or effective... but it also hasn't beenn shown to not be by big

studies, & they're plenty of us proving it for ourselves upon ourselves.

i'm not so much brave as poor, and stuck between a rock & a hard place, &

used to trusting myself when i'm stuck with the reality of having to live

with being responsible for the results of my paths taken. i had to do

something, & seem to have taken a good course. others report similar

results. never read anything but successes, except for some folk turning

grey with argyria which is cosmetic only (but real real ugly) & easily

avoided by avoiding bad forms of CS.

i'm always ready to discuss the silver more because i both want to share the

benefit and it's in my own interest to address issues raised by others so

that if something realistically problematic is found i can either find a

workaround or stop.

cheers,

bobL

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> question?

> >

> >

> > how can my liver enzymes be normal, my biop go from 2nhalf to one

> > (reverse) but my viral load has always been sky rocket? I'm confused!!!

> >

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> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes indeed. I had athlete's foot for quite a few years. I finally got

it under control.

Note, if you make pau d'arco tea from the ground bark, it helps to take

the leftover grounds and put it on your feet for a while every few days,

sort of like a poultice. I did this and it really helped.

Zack

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, cana1931 wrote:

> can candida cause atletes foot and other skin related infections??

>

> thanks alot,

>

[Guest guest]

My response-you want endourophines- exercise. Stop wasting time and

get the kids on a diet. This guy doesn't realize he is in for a

marathon not a walk to the mailbox.

>

> I am introducing the gluten free/casein free diet IDEA to a new

family of mine... I am a family based therapist. I posted this question

but it may not have been recognized. The dad, a recovering drug and

alcohol addict posts a question.. if the gluten.. casein acts as a

opiod in the brain.. thus giving our kids that high or rush.. if this

is taken away.. what replaces the endomorphins? The dad seems to think

if the child is addicted to the allergans.. then they won't get it from

anything else. thanks..

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And a heroin addict doesn't get the opiate high from anything else, does that

mean he or she should continue on the heroin? The family might be more open to

enzymes (HNI) than the diet. For some it works as well.

S S

> I am introducing the gluten free/casein free diet IDEA to a new <br>

family of mine... I am a family based therapist. I posted this question <br>

but it may not have been recognized. The dad, a recovering drug and <br>

alcohol addict posts a question.. if the gluten.. casein acts as a <br>

opiod in the brain.. thus giving our kids that high or rush.. if this <br>

is taken away.. what replaces the endomorphins? The dad seems to think <br>

if the child is addicted to the allergans.. then they won't get it from <br>

anything else. thanks..<br>

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Britt - that's a hard call, I'm sure, because of having a young

child. I'm 55 and on Humira. For me the decision was easy. I

decided that a (possibly, but not likely) shorter life with better

quality was the answer for me. I was in so much pain and the risk of

having permanent damage to my bones that could be even more

crippling - it seemed to me that the " side-effects " of not taking the

drugs was worse than the *possible* side-effects of taking them.

Also, my research and my discussions with my rheumy, indicate to me

that most of the increased risk of lymphoma arises just from having

PA - whether you take any drugs or not! There is a *very, very

slight* additional risk (possibly, they are still not sure about

this) when taking those drugs. If I develop lymphoma, I'm going to

blame the disease, not the drug.

Also, I figure I take other, just as serious, risks every day without

even thinking about it. For example, I occasionally ride an ATV on

trails without a helmet. Stupid, I know - but I do it sometimes.

That's probably more risky than taking Humira. Also, we have a

couple of 60-foot tall pecan trees within 15 feet of our house, which

is in a hurricane area. It's just a matter of time before a huge

limb or the whole tree falls on me while I'm sleeping. And I visit

my daughter in Oakland, CA, all the time despite the risk of another

major earthquake there. I have one or two glasses of wine with

dinner at a restaurant and then drive home, or ride with someone else

who also had a little wine. Etc. You can't live a completely risk-

free life.

I'm so sorry that you're faced with such a difficult decision.

Unfortunately, no one can make it for you. Have you talked to your PA

doctor about your concerns? He should be able to put the actual

mathematical risk in perspective for you - that might help you.

best regards,

sherry z

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Hey Britt,

I am sorry about your pain. I belive I know what you're going through.

I am 42 and been dignosed with PA since last year and with psoriasis

since I was 6 years old. I been disabled since 2005. But before that I

was on top of the world. Biking, playing golf, raquetball, tennis and

a full life with my wife and children. My psoriasis gets pretty bad and

I was so tired of trying to manage it with creams, lotions, PUVA and

medications until I tried Enbrel. I just prayed to be free for a little

while. And I did. I was scared of getting a melanoma but I didn't know

of the other possible side-effects. Anyways, after being on Enbrel for

4 months, my psoriasis had cleared up to 95% and my joints felt so good,

I felt like a gymnist. I was very happy. After the 6th month on

Enbrel, which by the way was the only drug I was taking, I started with

side-effects. My first side-effect was my loss of sight. I went to the

ER because my eyes were on fire. I couldn't see and they would burn as

if I had alcohol. I stopped the Enbrel and my sight came back after a 8

days, and fully recovered after 2 weeks. But the side-effects didn't

stop. After 2 months, my speech became so slurred and my legs just

wouldn't move and my balance was so off that I thought I was having a

stroke. ER again but no stroke, thank God, but something unknown. My

speech came back after 6 weeks, my thought process was so slow but it

came back after 2 months and seriously I thought I was a gonner. I also

suffered a form shakes and anxiety attacks but luckely they also stopped

after a few weeks.

Well anyways, now I am in pain 24/7, my PA is going crazy and I can no

longer take any of the medications due to allergic reactions + MS

symptoms. BE CAREFUL.

Look at your options and find out which biological has the fewest

side-effects. I feel Amvive would be a better alternative than Enbrel

but is up to you and your doctor. Also, which co-pay is the lowest. My

co-payment for Enbrel was $797.00 per month.

Good Luck and best wishes

[Guest guest]

, I am with you. Having the pictures really gives those of us that have just started our journey encouragement! I miss that! del Bosque <SDelBosque@...> wrote: What happened to the link for new photos? Mine has disappeared. Any help would be great! I enjoy seeing everyones

pics.

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and Jane,

When the picture is no longer new they go to the the PHOTOS seciton

on the left you can see them there. If you have a folder they go to

your folder.

Nina

> What happened to the link for new photos? Mine has

disappeared. Any

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Nina, I tried going to the photo on the left and it lets me see only a couple of the photos Nina <nina_eguia@...> wrote: and Jane, When the picture is no longer new they go to the the PHOTOS seciton on the left you can see them there. If you have a folder they go to your folder. Nina> What happened to the link for new photos? Mine has disappeared. Any > help would be great! I enjoy seeing everyones pics.> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.>

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[Guest guest]

Jane,

I am guessing that you are porbably only seeing the first 16 albums,

there are 112 in total! At the bottom ( righ thand corner) you will

see " next " click on that and you will see the next batch. Now this

are albums each albums have photos inside,not all ,but most, so

enjoy....

Nina

> > What happened to the link for new photos? Mine has

> disappeared. Any

> > help would be great! I enjoy seeing everyones pics.

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[Guest guest]

nina - i am never able to see anythng but what pops up initially - my stuff never loads beyond 44% and I cannot click on the next - any suggestions?

Marilyn

dob: 06/10/05

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Re: Question?

Jane, I am guessing that you are porbably only seeing the first 16 albums, there are 112 in total! At the bottom ( righ thand corner) you will see "next" click on that and you will see the next batch. Now this are albums each albums have photos inside,not all ,but most, so enjoy....Nina> > What happened to the link for new photos? Mine has > disappeared. Any > > help would be great! I enjoy seeing everyones pics.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.>

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Perla,Congrats on setting a date, it will be no time at all and you will be losing the pounds. I have never been good an exercise either, but one thing I did was took my lunch hour and went for a walk. Can you do that? If you just have to walk the halls even. It was good because then my co-workers were like, wow, your exercising over your lunch hour and I would say, yea, I'm really committed to losing weight and then when I started to lose, they didn't question me and I didn't have to tell any of them I had surgery. I don't know if you are telling anyone about the surgery, but be prepared, if you tell one friend, eventually, they all will know, the good, the bad, and the hypocritical! LOL A week to recover is plenty of time for most, so you should do fine.

The only suggestion I have for food, is Isopure and broth. You could fill a thermos with broth and at lunch time, just say you brought cold lunch and drink that I'm full of all kinds of schemes to keep the surgery a secret from friends, now family, that's another matter :)Anyway, keep asking your questions and we will help as much as possible! Good luck! Cyrena www.cyrenaweeks.blogspot.comDOB: 1/19/07240/156/150Six pounds to goal!!!

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Hi Perla, It's great that your getting your band, and while your young! I wish they had the band when I was in my 20's..lol It will be here soon and you will have your band! Is this your first surgery? It isn't to bad really. The first few weeks are for healing that's why it's liquids, soft foods then reg food. Each phase needs to be done following the rules to make sure the band heals in-place (stitches). You don't want to risk your band after all that time & money. If your "lucky" like I was, you won't be hungry for about 4-5 weeks! Others, like my daughter Jacqui ( 24), She was starving when we left the hospital, and wanted Burger-king for breakfast..lol. Of course she didn't and stuck with the rules until she finally made it to week 3 and could have some cream of chicken soup. You won't believe how good that soup is when you have only had broth & jello for so long! :-) The pain is nothing from the incisions..just a little te

nder when you "bump" your tummy or bend over without thinking. Tylenol liquid worked fine. The Gas pains were the worst part for me, Jacqui was fine, of course. I had that pain/discomfort for about 8-10 weeks then it settled down. I went to work 4 days after my surgery and did fine..just that annoying gas, otherwise I was good. Exercise..I still believe WALKING is the best... fast, slow, just walk as much as possible, as far as possible everyday. Take the stairs, park far away...all that works great now, after the band! Some people drink the Protein drinks with 40gms of protein or more to help them feel less hungry...I think they tasted like sour grapes....ewwweee...but others liked them. Drink all day..water, gatorade, tea, broth, apple juice, white grape juice, and jello.. all day... You should be able to do well at School for lunch. Once I could have milk products, I got the protein shakes..Chocolate & Vanilla.....yummy, like Slim-fast but with more prote

in and less calories. Just think..One day in the near future, you will be able to be around any food and not really care to have it! You will be satisfied with your small amts, but feel like you ate a full serving! It's a great thing. Be patient however, it will come off..it may take a little while, but it will..trust me :-) The first 3 months for me was getting to "know" my band and how my body was responding to it..it can be a challenge sometimes, but as time went on..( 2yrs in Feb 08') I know my band and love what it has helped me accomplish. If you need any advice or have any problems, post on here or e-mail me. We have all been where you are and where you are going and are here to help out if you need us, ok?

I'm excited for you..I know you are in great hands with Dr.A & all of his staff. Congratulations!

Dana

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Perla Escobar" <dimples_171990@...>

Hey Everyone im new to the group and im gettin banded on Nov. 5 im really excited to get it done but i was just wondering what kind of excercise do you guys do because honestly ive never been good at excercise i guess because i would get embarassed since my weight but i really want this band to work and i know i have to do excercise in order to loose weight succesfully?? so i was just wondering...... and also does yore body hurt after the surgery?? oh and im a senior in high school so i have to go to school after a week of being back so i was wondering if its hard to get around and what did you drink during thew liquid phase to not get hungry cuse i have to see all my friends eat chips and all that crazy junk food :-( lol! well i would appreciate any suggestions and comments and i will keep in contacr because i will definately need the support after surgery :-)!! oh annd is anyone having surgery on November 5th??

BR>Perla