Re: Re: muscle spasms/calcium

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You know, I " thought " I was getting enough calcium. I drink an xlarge latte

every morning, usually have yogurt or cottage cheese for breakfast and take

one calcium chew after dinner. (I've been told, not to take calcium when

having caffeine in the a.m., not to take it with lunch when I take my iron,

so I take it after dinner, can't take two at once and don't have time to

take another). A couple of weeks ago, I had a bone scan at the health fair

at work and was told I was at medium risk for osteoporosis (I'm 51 years old

and perimenopausal) and need more calcium. Anyone know about taking calcium

(Viactive), as far as how long after drinking caffeine and how long after

taking iron...ferrous sulfate? Maybe calcium IS my dilemma.

Re: Re: muscle spasms

>> > I was half in/half out of bed and couldn't

>> > move for an hour I was in so much pain. I've spoken with my primary

>care

>> > physician, weight loss surgeon and those in my weight loss surgery

>support

>> > group meetings about this.

>>

>> Here's another one. I have them often and they are HORRIBLE. My feet

look

>> deformed - the toes crumple up and point in different directions almost.

>I've

>> been told to check potassium, calcium, magnesium, water, and circulation.

>> I've addressed all these and still get the cramps. I hate it..

>> hugs,

>**********************************

>I have only gotten those kinds of leg cramps at two times in my life. Once,

>while pregnant with my daughter and once about 4 years ago. I was told

while

>pregnant that it is because of the need for calcium. Drinking lots of milk

>seemed to cure it. By the way, I can drink milk if I have Lactaid.

>Dawn

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

What kind of surgery did you have? If you had any sort of malabsorptive

surgery (RNY, DS, etc.), Viactiv and other calcium CARBONATE products

are COMPLETELY useless to your body, unless you count forming kidney

stones as a good " use " . You really should be taking at least 1500 mg of

calcium CITRATE every day, divided into three doses and not taken within

an hour of iron (iron and calcium compete for the receptors in the

intestines and iron wins). Because the calcium in food can't be

quantified so well for us (how much do we get without stomach acid?

Nobody knows) I do not count food calcium at all, but figure it's good

extra insurance.

Calcium CARBONATE requires at least one hour of exposure to stomach acid

to be at all bioavailable and we don't have that (neither do most

normal-stomached older folks because production of stomach acid

decreases as we age). Calcium CITRATE does not require stomach acid to

become bioavailable and therefore really is the better calcium for

EVERYONE. It's slightly more expensive but especially if you have

osteopenia or threats of osteoporosis, you must address your calcium

situation immediately. If I were in your shoes, I'd be taking at least

FOUR 500 mg doses of calcium citrate every day.

As far as how to get that many doses in, here's how I do it:

Very first thing in the morning, before ANYTHING else: 630 mg

One hour before lunch: 500 mg in water (Citracal Liquitab)

An hour before dinner: 630 mg

An hour and a half before bed: multi-vite and iron

Bedtime, last thing: 630 mg

If I wake up in the middle of the night: 630 mg bonus dose

Finally, you really should be doing at least 30 minutes a day of

weight-bearing exercise (walking, treadmill, elliptical, and others --

ask at your gym). People who exercise regularly have greater bone

density and fewer fractures.

HTH (and I can't believe you guys let this message go without a response

for 18 hours!!) :-)

Ziobro (was Moseley)

Open RNY 09/17/01

Reconstructives 07/22/02

310/133/125

Re: Re: muscle spasms/calcium

You know, I " thought " I was getting enough calcium. I drink an xlarge

latte every morning, usually have yogurt or cottage cheese for breakfast

and take one calcium chew after dinner. (I've been told, not to take

calcium when having caffeine in the a.m., not to take it with lunch when

I take my iron, so I take it after dinner, can't take two at once and

don't have time to take another). A couple of weeks ago, I had a bone

scan at the health fair at work and was told I was at medium risk for

osteoporosis (I'm 51 years old and perimenopausal) and need more

calcium. Anyone know about taking calcium (Viactive), as far as how

long after drinking caffeine and how long after taking iron...ferrous

sulfate? Maybe calcium IS my dilemma.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

What kind of surgery did you have? If you had any sort of malabsorptive

surgery (RNY, DS, etc.), Viactiv and other calcium CARBONATE products

are COMPLETELY useless to your body, unless you count forming kidney

stones as a good " use " . You really should be taking at least 1500 mg of

calcium CITRATE every day, divided into three doses and not taken within

an hour of iron (iron and calcium compete for the receptors in the

intestines and iron wins). Because the calcium in food can't be

quantified so well for us (how much do we get without stomach acid?

Nobody knows) I do not count food calcium at all, but figure it's good

extra insurance.

Calcium CARBONATE requires at least one hour of exposure to stomach acid

to be at all bioavailable and we don't have that (neither do most

normal-stomached older folks because production of stomach acid

decreases as we age). Calcium CITRATE does not require stomach acid to

become bioavailable and therefore really is the better calcium for

EVERYONE. It's slightly more expensive but especially if you have

osteopenia or threats of osteoporosis, you must address your calcium

situation immediately. If I were in your shoes, I'd be taking at least

FOUR 500 mg doses of calcium citrate every day.

As far as how to get that many doses in, here's how I do it:

Very first thing in the morning, before ANYTHING else: 630 mg

One hour before lunch: 500 mg in water (Citracal Liquitab)

An hour before dinner: 630 mg

An hour and a half before bed: multi-vite and iron

Bedtime, last thing: 630 mg

If I wake up in the middle of the night: 630 mg bonus dose

Finally, you really should be doing at least 30 minutes a day of

weight-bearing exercise (walking, treadmill, elliptical, and others --

ask at your gym). People who exercise regularly have greater bone

density and fewer fractures.

HTH (and I can't believe you guys let this message go without a response

for 18 hours!!) :-)

Ziobro (was Moseley)

Open RNY 09/17/01

Reconstructives 07/22/02

310/133/125

Re: Re: muscle spasms/calcium

You know, I " thought " I was getting enough calcium. I drink an xlarge

latte every morning, usually have yogurt or cottage cheese for breakfast

and take one calcium chew after dinner. (I've been told, not to take

calcium when having caffeine in the a.m., not to take it with lunch when

I take my iron, so I take it after dinner, can't take two at once and

don't have time to take another). A couple of weeks ago, I had a bone

scan at the health fair at work and was told I was at medium risk for

osteoporosis (I'm 51 years old and perimenopausal) and need more

calcium. Anyone know about taking calcium (Viactive), as far as how

long after drinking caffeine and how long after taking iron...ferrous

sulfate? Maybe calcium IS my dilemma.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

What kind of surgery did you have? If you had any sort of malabsorptive

surgery (RNY, DS, etc.), Viactiv and other calcium CARBONATE products

are COMPLETELY useless to your body, unless you count forming kidney

stones as a good " use " . You really should be taking at least 1500 mg of

calcium CITRATE every day, divided into three doses and not taken within

an hour of iron (iron and calcium compete for the receptors in the

intestines and iron wins). Because the calcium in food can't be

quantified so well for us (how much do we get without stomach acid?

Nobody knows) I do not count food calcium at all, but figure it's good

extra insurance.

Calcium CARBONATE requires at least one hour of exposure to stomach acid

to be at all bioavailable and we don't have that (neither do most

normal-stomached older folks because production of stomach acid

decreases as we age). Calcium CITRATE does not require stomach acid to

become bioavailable and therefore really is the better calcium for

EVERYONE. It's slightly more expensive but especially if you have

osteopenia or threats of osteoporosis, you must address your calcium

situation immediately. If I were in your shoes, I'd be taking at least

FOUR 500 mg doses of calcium citrate every day.

As far as how to get that many doses in, here's how I do it:

Very first thing in the morning, before ANYTHING else: 630 mg

One hour before lunch: 500 mg in water (Citracal Liquitab)

An hour before dinner: 630 mg

An hour and a half before bed: multi-vite and iron

Bedtime, last thing: 630 mg

If I wake up in the middle of the night: 630 mg bonus dose

Finally, you really should be doing at least 30 minutes a day of

weight-bearing exercise (walking, treadmill, elliptical, and others --

ask at your gym). People who exercise regularly have greater bone

density and fewer fractures.

HTH (and I can't believe you guys let this message go without a response

for 18 hours!!) :-)

Ziobro (was Moseley)

Open RNY 09/17/01

Reconstructives 07/22/02

310/133/125

Re: Re: muscle spasms/calcium

You know, I " thought " I was getting enough calcium. I drink an xlarge

latte every morning, usually have yogurt or cottage cheese for breakfast

and take one calcium chew after dinner. (I've been told, not to take

calcium when having caffeine in the a.m., not to take it with lunch when

I take my iron, so I take it after dinner, can't take two at once and

don't have time to take another). A couple of weeks ago, I had a bone

scan at the health fair at work and was told I was at medium risk for

osteoporosis (I'm 51 years old and perimenopausal) and need more

calcium. Anyone know about taking calcium (Viactive), as far as how

long after drinking caffeine and how long after taking iron...ferrous

sulfate? Maybe calcium IS my dilemma.

[Guest guest]

> You know, I " thought " I was getting enough calcium. I drink an xlarge

latte

> every morning, usually have yogurt or cottage cheese for breakfast and

take

> one calcium chew after dinner. (I've been told, not to take calcium when

> having caffeine in the a.m., not to take it with lunch when I take my

iron,

> so I take it after dinner, can't take two at once and don't have time to

> take another). A couple of weeks ago, I had a bone scan at the health

fair

********* ankle?

> at work and was told I was at medium risk for osteoporosis (I'm 51 years

old

> and perimenopausal) and need more calcium.

********** if an ankle scan showed trouble, RUN to the nearest real scanner

& find out where you really are. My ankle said I was even better than 30

y/o (I was 50). My real scan showed I was already AT osteoporosis. And my

calcium blood levels were nice 'n high (not too high)

Anyone know about taking calcium

> (Viactive), as far as how long after drinking caffeine and how long after

> taking iron...ferrous sulfate? Maybe calcium IS my dilemma.

******** Viactiv is useless, ferrous sulfate is useless. You might want to

get some calcium citrate with magnesium & D, with or without food. And

another form of iron, with vit C, an h our apart from any other vites,

minerals or meds.

>

> Re: Re: muscle spasms

>

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> >> > I was half in/half out of bed and couldn't

> >> > move for an hour I was in so much pain. I've spoken with my primary

> >care

> >> > physician, weight loss surgeon and those in my weight loss surgery

> >support

> >> > group meetings about this.

> >>

> >> Here's another one. I have them often and they are HORRIBLE. My feet

> look

> >> deformed - the toes crumple up and point in different directions

almost.

> >I've

> >> been told to check potassium, calcium, magnesium, water, and

circulation.

> >> I've addressed all these and still get the cramps. I hate it..

> >> hugs,

> >**********************************

> >I have only gotten those kinds of leg cramps at two times in my life.

Once,

> >while pregnant with my daughter and once about 4 years ago. I was told

> while

> >pregnant that it is because of the need for calcium. Drinking lots of

milk

> >seemed to cure it. By the way, I can drink milk if I have Lactaid.

> >Dawn

> >

> >

>

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